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Corner CHAT LOG: Tata Oscar Speaks About His Palo Course!

On Mondays, Palo priest Candelo Kimbisa hosts the meeting place for all the world's spiritualities, with free Readings on the Corner for callers once a month.

Corner CHAT LOG: Tata Oscar Speaks About His Palo Course!

Unread postby nagasiva » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:06 pm

Tata Oscar Speak about his New Course on Palo: Congo Rites Of Cuba, on Candelo's Corner!!

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/candelosco ... es-of-cuba

Palo, is it witchcraft? Necromancy? Spellcasting? This is a one of a kind course on Palo, the most misunderstood of all Afro-Latin religions. Learn chants, herbalism and more from a priest with over 20 years experience. Tata Oscar was first initiated in 1995. He has apprenticed with several recognized elder priests including Dr. Eoghan Ballard, Ph.D. and Tata Manuel Congo and has dedicated most of his time as an initiate to investigating the history, cosmology and theology behind the Palo religion.

Since that time he has maintained palomayombe.com to preserve information on the Palo religion and share it with the public. He holds a B.A. in Information Systems from Fordham University and has taught courses at Eleda\Diaspora Cultural Center in Miami, FL. He is an ordained Orisha priest in the Lucumi Religion and serves as a committee member for Oloshas United, a non-profit organization dedicated to promoting solidarity, tradition, and service for the preservation of the global Orisha community. Tata Oscar is available for lectures and interviews and can be reached at tataguerra@yahoo.com

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2016-06-06 06:47:08 PM Candelos Corner Radio enter the room
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2016-06-06 06:55:20 PM RHM Dena Nsala Maleku this evening!
2016-06-06 06:56:00 PM MichaelCorrell poof
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2016-06-06 06:56:49 PM AngeliqueLuna Good evening all!
2016-06-06 06:57:05 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Hiya!
2016-06-06 06:58:46 PM MichaelCorrell howdy yall
2016-06-06 06:59:23 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Happy Satan Day (6)(6)(6)
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2016-06-06 07:01:21 PM MartaCorrellLAc Hello!
2016-06-06 07:01:25 PM catherine yronwode Hiya!
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2016-06-06 07:02:01 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Sound on 1 refresh, Firefox.
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2016-06-06 07:02:40 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Welcome Marta, catherine!
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2016-06-06 07:04:48 PM AngeliqueLuna Hi Marta & Catherine
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2016-06-06 07:05:32 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Shares finished.
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2016-06-06 07:05:48 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Rooster.
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2016-06-06 07:06:08 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Alaykum assalam, Tata Candelo.
2016-06-06 07:06:15 PM MichaelCorrell woof
2016-06-06 07:06:30 PM AngeliqueLuna Thank you for having us over!
2016-06-06 07:06:33 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti I didn't know Birches bark, but that does make sense. :)
2016-06-06 07:06:35 PM Papa Newt enter the room
2016-06-06 07:06:51 PM AngeliqueLuna She was very honor & happy and wanting to have another reading soon!
2016-06-06 07:06:52 PM AngeliqueLuna LOL
2016-06-06 07:07:55 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti "Palo: Congo Rites of Cuba"
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2016-06-06 07:09:06 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Ninjas are AFTER YOU?
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2016-06-06 07:09:16 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti :S:S:S
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2016-06-06 07:09:37 PM AngeliqueLuna woo-hoo!
2016-06-06 07:10:04 PM catherine yronwode Candelo is going to New Orleans!
2016-06-06 07:10:07 PM LibraGoddess enter the room
2016-06-06 07:10:33 PM catherine yronwode Staying with Crescent City Conjure folks.
2016-06-06 07:10:42 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti N'awlins!
2016-06-06 07:11:47 PM catherine yronwode Haunted Plantation.
2016-06-06 07:11:54 PM AngeliqueLuna I love it! That is going to be fun!
2016-06-06 07:12:11 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Tata Oscar Kimbisa
2016-06-06 07:13:44 PM RHM Dena wow
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2016-06-06 07:15:49 PM catherine yronwode A tale of a man who "threw away his nkisi."
2016-06-06 07:16:00 PM Guest2174 enter the room
2016-06-06 07:16:13 PM catherine yronwode The history of the belief that Palo is "a dark path."
2016-06-06 07:16:33 PM catherine yronwode Talking to anthropologists and ethnographers and linguists.
2016-06-06 07:16:41 PM Guest2187 enter the room
2016-06-06 07:17:03 PM catherine yronwode And it has a political basis in the early 20th century.
2016-06-06 07:17:31 PM Liquid Libations Radio enter the room
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2016-06-06 07:18:55 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti That's how they promoted the 'satanism' of Matamoros, "Palo, the Dark Side of Santeria".
2016-06-06 07:18:55 PM catherine yronwode The difference between the Congo and Yoruba people, of Christianity in Africa, and the debunking of myths told about Africans in Cuba
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2016-06-06 07:19:22 PM catherine yronwode This reminds me of the way that modern witches have had to debunk the myths of the "burning times."
2016-06-06 07:19:22 PM Papa Newt Hello everyone.
2016-06-06 07:19:30 PM catherine yronwode Hey, Papa newt!
2016-06-06 07:19:33 PM AngeliqueLuna Hello Papa Newt!
2016-06-06 07:19:38 PM Papa Newt Hi, Miss Cat!
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2016-06-06 07:19:49 PM Papa Newt Hello, AngeliqueLuna!
2016-06-06 07:19:51 PM Lisa Jackson 5 enter the room
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2016-06-06 07:20:33 PM catherine yronwode The class is limited to 20 students.
2016-06-06 07:20:46 PM RHM Dena That would be interesting
2016-06-06 07:21:05 PM catherine yronwode Palo, is it witchcraft? Necromancy? Spellcasting? This is a one of a kind course on Palo, the most misunderstood of all Afro-Latin religions.
2016-06-06 07:21:24 PM catherine yronwode Learn chants, herbalism and more from a priest with over 20 years experience. Tata Oscar was first initiated in 1995.
2016-06-06 07:21:43 PM catherine yronwode He has apprenticed with several recognized elder priests including Dr. Eoghan Ballard, Ph.D. and Tata Manuel Congo and has dedicated most of his time as an initiate to investigating the history, cosmology and theology behind the Palo religion.
2016-06-06 07:21:49 PM Papa Lou enter the room
2016-06-06 07:22:05 PM catherine yronwode Since that time he has maintained palomayombe.com to preserve information on the Palo religion and share it with the public. He holds a B.A. in Information Systems from Fordham University and has taught courses at Eleda\Diaspora Cultural Center in Miami,
2016-06-06 07:22:16 PM catherine yronwode , FL.
2016-06-06 07:22:27 PM MartaCorrellLAc as far as i'm concerned, palo is more "pagan" than anything i've experienced
2016-06-06 07:22:32 PM catherine yronwode He is an ordained Orisha priest in the Lucumi Religion and serves as a committee member for Oloshas United, a non-profit organization dedicated to promoting solidarity, tradition, and service for the preservation of the global Orisha community
2016-06-06 07:22:45 PM catherine yronwode Tata Oscar is available for lectures and interviews and can be reached at tataguerra@yahoo.com
2016-06-06 07:23:03 PM catherine yronwode [For the chat log at the forum...]
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2016-06-06 07:23:15 PM AngeliqueLuna LOL
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2016-06-06 07:23:19 PM RHM Dena :)
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2016-06-06 07:23:41 PM RHM Dena YESSSS
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2016-06-06 07:24:51 PM catherine yronwode "Good evening if it's evening" -- and the Congo Cosmogram. dead / alive // night / day // earth / water
2016-06-06 07:25:17 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Wikipedia says that Palo is a religion:
2016-06-06 07:25:18 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palo_(religion)
2016-06-06 07:25:21 PM catherine yronwode (and mirrors for water)
2016-06-06 07:25:26 PM Readings by Wen I MADE IT!!!
2016-06-06 07:25:35 PM Readings by Wen Good evening everyone
2016-06-06 07:25:46 PM catherine yronwode Hello, Wen!
2016-06-06 07:25:54 PM Readings by Wen Good evening ms. cat
2016-06-06 07:26:11 PM AngeliqueLuna WEN!!!!!!
2016-06-06 07:26:17 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Does the surname 'Kimbisa' mean 'of the House of Kimbisa?
2016-06-06 07:26:20 PM Readings by Wen Hey Angelique! World traveler
2016-06-06 07:26:24 PM AngeliqueLuna YEA!!! You made it.
2016-06-06 07:26:30 PM catherine yronwode Hey, y'all who were at the Hoodoo Heritage Festival in may .. remeber Monica, the short, dark-haired woman who came all the way from Australia?
2016-06-06 07:26:42 PM AngeliqueLuna Not world, just states. ROFL
2016-06-06 07:26:57 PM catherine yronwode Well, she just signed up to take my correspondence course. And she said to tell everyone hello.
2016-06-06 07:27:10 PM Readings by Wen Oh that's awesome!
2016-06-06 07:27:14 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Yay! Oh boy. I knew she was a long-distance caller.
2016-06-06 07:27:22 PM Readings by Wen I'm waiting to get paid so I can order the book :)
2016-06-06 07:27:36 PM Candelos Corner Radio we hung out after the festival
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2016-06-06 07:28:11 PM catherine yronwode She's a very nice person, genuinely interested in folk magic of all kinds, and she is studying card reading with Nadia.
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2016-06-06 07:28:29 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Does this mean that all people with Kimbisa as their last name are related by religion?
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2016-06-06 07:28:48 PM Readings by Wen That is awesome
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2016-06-06 07:29:11 PM Readings by Wen I believe so, Troll
2016-06-06 07:29:17 PM catherine yronwode Yep, Troll, just like all the Sinaibergers are.
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2016-06-06 07:29:41 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Sinaibergers are all related to by religion?
2016-06-06 07:29:54 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Dwellers on Sinai (Jewish?)
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2016-06-06 07:30:17 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti AFK (food)
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2016-06-06 07:31:04 PM catherine yronwode Yes, Sinai is the name of a mountain in Palestaine / Israel and Berg means "moutain" in German. The ending "er" means from or of. Sinaiberger is a German name given to Jews.
2016-06-06 07:31:36 PM catherine yronwode It sounds German (Sinai Mountaineer) but it is a name only Jews have, since Sinai is not in Germany!
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2016-06-06 07:33:06 PM catherine yronwode This lead singer has such an interesting voice to me. Who is he?
2016-06-06 07:33:10 PM Guest2327 quit the room
2016-06-06 07:33:21 PM catherine yronwode I think of hism as "the nasal-voicedguy."
2016-06-06 07:33:33 PM AngeliqueLuna that will be exciting!
2016-06-06 07:33:34 PM Christine Pappas enter the room
2016-06-06 07:33:58 PM ButchComer enter the room
2016-06-06 07:36:23 PM catherine yronwode Palo, a tradition that works with spirits and with the dead.
2016-06-06 07:36:45 PM RHM Dena Great explanation Tata Oscar
2016-06-06 07:36:45 PM catherine yronwode Many seek it out for "power," but that is not what is for. It is a spiritual path.
2016-06-06 07:37:04 PM catherine yronwode Working with herbs. Attribute of plants.
2016-06-06 07:37:21 PM Readings by Wen How long is the course? Is it 4 weeks?
2016-06-06 07:37:37 PM Readings by Wen Rompe Zaraguey, Laurel, Ceiba
2016-06-06 07:38:03 PM RHM Dena o
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2016-06-06 07:38:26 PM Readings by Wen Roots of Jaguey: helps in fighting Cancer
2016-06-06 07:38:27 PM MartaCorrellLAc i'm an herbs nerd, so it's a definite draw for me
2016-06-06 07:38:32 PM catherine yronwode Correlating Palo magical plants with taxonomic naes and medical usages.
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2016-06-06 07:38:44 PM catherine yronwode naes = names
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2016-06-06 07:39:20 PM RHM Dena Paraiso
2016-06-06 07:39:46 PM AngeliqueLuna I need to start working on reading & writing in spanish. ROFL
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2016-06-06 07:40:24 PM RHM Dena I have found that between traditions it can be hard to find the different herbs! So I have learned a lot
2016-06-06 07:40:27 PM Readings by Wen cundeamor
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2016-06-06 07:40:57 PM RHM Dena You should @AngeliqueLuna
2016-06-06 07:41:17 PM RHM Dena MANNY
2016-06-06 07:41:27 PM Readings by Wen I can help, Angelique! <<< SPanish teacher right here
2016-06-06 07:41:47 PM RHM Dena HELL YES
2016-06-06 07:41:50 PM RHM Dena AWESOME herbs
2016-06-06 07:41:51 PM AngeliqueLuna buneo!
2016-06-06 07:41:52 PM ProfPorterfield great show, but gotta run, serious lightning here. Will come back if the storm passes quickly. Be well all!
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2016-06-06 07:42:09 PM catherine yronwode Grand Mufti of SATANISM
2016-06-06 07:42:13 PM Readings by Wen Be safe, Prof. P!
2016-06-06 07:42:27 PM catherine yronwode Asked about the name Kimbisa...
2016-06-06 07:42:42 PM RHM Dena Here is Manny's FB site https://www.facebook.com/eweodara10/?pnref=lhc
2016-06-06 07:43:01 PM Readings by Wen Kimbisa Santo Cristo Buen Viaje
2016-06-06 07:43:21 PM catherine yronwode "more orthodox"
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2016-06-06 07:43:43 PM AngeliqueLuna @Rhmdena thank you for the link!
2016-06-06 07:44:19 PM RHM Dena Welcome @angelique - he is awesome!
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2016-06-06 07:46:02 PM Readings by Wen any major differences you can point out without giving away any secrets?
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2016-06-06 07:47:20 PM Readings by Wen YAY Venezuela in the house!
2016-06-06 07:48:16 PM Readings by Wen Thanks, Tata Candelo
2016-06-06 07:48:57 PM Readings by Wen Santo Cristo Buan Viaje is considered the Christian branch (rama) of Palo. Founder: Andrés Pettit
2016-06-06 07:49:05 PM Readings by Wen Buen*
2016-06-06 07:49:33 PM catherine yronwode Raised by monks.
2016-06-06 07:49:39 PM catherine yronwode As an orphan.
2016-06-06 07:50:00 PM catherine yronwode Also Christianity in the Congo was of long standing.
2016-06-06 07:50:11 PM Readings by Wen A large section of the Congo was Christianized. They created a Congo Christianity
2016-06-06 07:50:49 PM catherine yronwode Oject of power called an nkisi, so they saw the Bible as mukanda (?) nkisi, the nkisi that is also a book.
2016-06-06 07:51:14 PM Readings by Wen Saint is nothing more than an ancestor being worshipped.
2016-06-06 07:51:21 PM catherine yronwode This is described in a way in the book "Bible Magic" by Prof. Porterfield -- Africans boiling a Bible to get a strong bath.
2016-06-06 07:53:03 PM Readings by Wen Briyumba (?)
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2016-06-06 07:53:23 PM RHM Dena Brillumba
2016-06-06 07:54:05 PM Readings by Wen The representation of the dead on Briyumba was with a skull.
2016-06-06 07:55:13 PM Readings by Wen Has it merged with the religion of María Lionza, that you know of?
2016-06-06 07:55:20 PM Readings by Wen (in Venezuela)
2016-06-06 07:56:59 PM catherine yronwode different spirits in these paths. Kimbisa with Mayombe, for instance.
2016-06-06 07:57:15 PM RHM Dena ooo
2016-06-06 07:57:25 PM RHM Dena lol
2016-06-06 07:57:45 PM AngeliqueLuna Where is the link?!?
2016-06-06 07:57:45 PM Readings by Wen $25 per class, right?
2016-06-06 07:57:58 PM catherine yronwode Course has a start date, no end date...
2016-06-06 07:58:09 PM Readings by Wen http://www.palomayombe.com/
2016-06-06 07:58:11 PM catherine yronwode 20 lessons
2016-06-06 07:58:47 PM Liquid Libations Radio I've taken his class, it is excellent and well done. I learned a lot.
2016-06-06 07:59:05 PM Readings by Wen yay Andrea!
2016-06-06 07:59:27 PM Liquid Libations Radio Hey hey Wen!
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2016-06-06 07:59:49 PM AngeliqueLuna Thanks Wen!
2016-06-06 08:00:14 PM Readings by Wen (F)
2016-06-06 08:00:22 PM AngeliqueLuna (L)
2016-06-06 08:00:41 PM Readings by Wen I just wanna read, read, read... I wanna study EVERYTHING. Gee... Not enough time in this life.
2016-06-06 08:00:45 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti B(ack)T(o)K(eys)!
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2016-06-06 08:01:11 PM Liquid Libations Radio Hi AngeliqueLuna
2016-06-06 08:01:25 PM catherine yronwode With food! Thanks!
2016-06-06 08:01:26 PM RHM Dena @ReadingsbyWen....isn't that the truth??
2016-06-06 08:01:27 PM Readings by Wen Any reputable reading materials the Tatas can recommend? I know a while ago Tata Candelo suggested "El Monte".
2016-06-06 08:01:42 PM Readings by Wen lol @ ms. cat
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2016-06-06 08:01:55 PM AngeliqueLuna Hello LiquidLibations!
2016-06-06 08:01:55 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti :D
2016-06-06 08:02:09 PM Liquid Libations Radio Hi Troll & Ms Cat!
2016-06-06 08:02:31 PM catherine yronwode Hello, Abrozine!
2016-06-06 08:02:33 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti (})(})(})
2016-06-06 08:02:47 PM Liquid Libations Radio Greetings to the chatroom :)
2016-06-06 08:03:59 PM catherine yronwode A question -- is LeGare pronounced Leh-GaRAY, Leh-GAHR, or ... ?
2016-06-06 08:04:10 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Lay-GAYR.
2016-06-06 08:04:15 PM catherine yronwode Leh-GA(Y)R?
2016-06-06 08:04:33 PM Liquid Libations Radio Leh-Gayr
2016-06-06 08:04:45 PM catherine yronwode Thanks.
2016-06-06 08:04:45 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Question for show: Is it unusual to have instructive courses like Tata Oscar is teaching for Palo?
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2016-06-06 08:05:26 PM catherine yronwode Good question, Troll.
2016-06-06 08:05:28 PM DTR Mike enter the room
2016-06-06 08:05:33 PM PaloMayombe It is frowned upon
2016-06-06 08:05:54 PM RHM Dena @Troll...Normally instruction is given at different levels based upon your lineage/Tata
2016-06-06 08:05:58 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Why is it frowned on and could Tata Oscar get into trouble?
2016-06-06 08:06:01 PM Guest2664 enter the room
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2016-06-06 08:06:10 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* enter the room
2016-06-06 08:06:15 PM PaloMayombe I think we should talk about that
2016-06-06 08:06:17 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* Hi everyone
2016-06-06 08:06:18 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* =)
2016-06-06 08:06:25 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* HOla wonderful people
2016-06-06 08:06:30 PM DTR Mike quit the room
2016-06-06 08:06:32 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Great!
2016-06-06 08:06:45 PM catherine yronwode Hello, Emilie!
2016-06-06 08:06:46 PM Candelos Corner Radio (})
2016-06-06 08:06:50 PM DTR Mike enter the room
2016-06-06 08:06:56 PM AngeliqueLuna HOLA Emilie!
2016-06-06 08:06:57 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* spiritual familia
2016-06-06 08:07:21 PM catherine yronwode Please DO talk about it ... this is interesting to me.
2016-06-06 08:07:39 PM RHM Dena Pacts....are a touchy topic
2016-06-06 08:07:45 PM Guest2689 enter the room
2016-06-06 08:07:52 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti They are! They are on the top of my list today.
2016-06-06 08:08:09 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Welcome Emmy!
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2016-06-06 08:08:45 PM gari farmer (})
2016-06-06 08:09:05 PM Readings by Wen Hey Em!
2016-06-06 08:09:14 PM catherine yronwode The Spectre of Matamoros...
2016-06-06 08:09:31 PM catherine yronwode "The Dark Side of Santeriia."
2016-06-06 08:10:01 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Costanza.
2016-06-06 08:10:03 PM Papa Lou enter the room
2016-06-06 08:10:37 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Whoops, Constanzo, Adolfo de Jesus.
2016-06-06 08:11:21 PM catherine yronwode 1920 serial killer of children -- his crimes were pinned in African Cubans at that time.
2016-06-06 08:11:43 PM Readings by Wen quit the room
2016-06-06 08:11:45 PM catherine yronwode It became almost illegal to practice
2016-06-06 08:11:55 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Fascinating, Tata Oscar.
2016-06-06 08:11:57 PM catherine yronwode Cabildo, confraternity,
2016-06-06 08:12:13 PM catherine yronwode Ferando Guerrera.
2016-06-06 08:12:34 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Mutual aid society
2016-06-06 08:12:43 PM catherine yronwode educated in law, invited the press to visit the shrine to Saint Barbara, Lady of Charity.
2016-06-06 08:13:16 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Fernando Ortiz
2016-06-06 08:13:50 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Lukumi (popularly known as 'Santeria').
2016-06-06 08:14:19 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* wow
2016-06-06 08:14:19 PM catherine yronwode And his shrine was Lukumi (Santeria) and when asked who was behind the murders, he pinned the blame on the Congos (Paleros).
2016-06-06 08:14:30 PM catherine yronwode And this started much ill-will.
2016-06-06 08:14:35 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Congos retaliated against Babalaos, legend has it.
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2016-06-06 08:15:32 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Impressions endure when repeated.
2016-06-06 08:15:33 PM catherine yronwode Still to this day, problems beteen Ifa and Palo.
2016-06-06 08:15:38 PM LibraGoddess enter the room
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2016-06-06 08:16:43 PM catherine yronwode Babalaos handing down tales Palo as evil to their students.
2016-06-06 08:17:58 PM DTR Mike quit the room
2016-06-06 08:18:30 PM catherine yronwode Musical traditions of mixing in Cuba.
2016-06-06 08:18:43 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Medleys
2016-06-06 08:19:08 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Rumberos de Cuba: Pandora
2016-06-06 08:19:35 PM catherine yronwode Why teach it to non-initiates?
2016-06-06 08:19:55 PM catherine yronwode The course is not a "how to"
2016-06-06 08:20:16 PM catherine yronwode It is historical and instructional.
2016-06-06 08:20:48 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti http://www.palomayombe.com/
2016-06-06 08:21:48 PM Readings by Wen Will this course be taught next year as well?
2016-06-06 08:23:31 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* im just deeply listening .. like wow
2016-06-06 08:23:47 PM AngeliqueLuna that is the course i want to take! lol
2016-06-06 08:24:22 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* not many people speak about this.
2016-06-06 08:24:44 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Will Tata Oscar get into trouble for teaching this course?
2016-06-06 08:25:17 PM Readings by Wen The Palo Patrol
2016-06-06 08:25:30 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Guide is not so troubled by a subset of knowledge
2016-06-06 08:25:36 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* the palo police we have the tarot police too.. lol
2016-06-06 08:25:47 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* this is great info
2016-06-06 08:25:48 PM Readings by Wen right, Em?
2016-06-06 08:26:13 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti There's a couple of possibilities: ignorant source; anotehr: the student is not ready.
2016-06-06 08:26:35 PM RHM Dena @troll - my feelings as well
2016-06-06 08:27:40 PM Readings by Wen In Palo, is there a specific time when you know for sure if you're supposed (or not) to get scratched?
2016-06-06 08:28:20 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Online class that will meet every Thursday beginning 6/9/16 at 7:30pm -- are there some things that will be difficult to teach online?
2016-06-06 08:29:20 PM catherine yronwode I have always known that Palo and Santeria are not for me. People who equate everything African together generally assume i am an initiate, but i know i will never be.
2016-06-06 08:29:49 PM Readings by Wen http://www.palomayombe.com/ Class will be Eastern Standard time. If you cannot make it during this time it will be recorded and you will be given the link to watch the class for 1 week.
2016-06-06 08:30:05 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti "Oftentimes confused with witchery" -- I didn't hear if there was an explanation for why it is confused with witchery and if so, what witchery is.
2016-06-06 08:31:14 PM Readings by Wen not enough time in life!
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2016-06-06 08:32:15 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* amen to that
2016-06-06 08:33:01 PM catherine yronwode I would like to read / publish / carry in my shop a good English-language introduction to Palo and other ATRs.
2016-06-06 08:33:06 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* we can learn from everyone and we never stop learning . a person that thinks they know everything about something is full of caca
2016-06-06 08:33:25 PM AngeliqueLuna agree Emilie
2016-06-06 08:33:31 PM Readings by Wen ms. cat, I can only translate accurately. If I can be of service, let me know.
2016-06-06 08:33:49 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti What is Oloshas United?
2016-06-06 08:33:55 PM Readings by Wen I translate ENG><SPA.
2016-06-06 08:34:20 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti "With all, by all, and for the good of ALL!"
2016-06-06 08:35:08 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti "a non-profit organization dedicated to promoting solidarity, tradition, and service for the preservation of the global Orisha community. "
2016-06-06 08:35:49 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti I'm unsure what is meant by 'witchery' or 'witchcraft' here.
2016-06-06 08:35:57 PM Readings by Wen Brujeria
2016-06-06 08:36:02 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Is witchery evil magic?
2016-06-06 08:36:17 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Cursing magic spellcraft?
2016-06-06 08:36:22 PM LibraGoddess quit the room
2016-06-06 08:36:37 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti witchery = brujeria = witchcraft?
2016-06-06 08:36:45 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* against trump
2016-06-06 08:36:52 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti LOL Emmy
2016-06-06 08:37:05 PM Readings by Wen hahahahahaha
2016-06-06 08:37:16 PM Give Him Free enter the room
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2016-06-06 08:37:30 PM Readings by Wen Babalu Aye
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2016-06-06 08:38:17 PM AngeliqueLuna yes! i love to give toys
2016-06-06 08:38:41 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti So an olosha is the same as a Lukumi priest/ess?
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2016-06-06 08:39:43 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti http://www.oloshasunited.com
2016-06-06 08:39:55 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti http://www.eleda.org
2016-06-06 08:40:16 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Willie Ramos
2016-06-06 08:40:49 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* yes
2016-06-06 08:41:16 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti https://www.facebook.com/EledaOrgPublications
2016-06-06 08:42:35 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Young lady got arrested for animal cruelty.
2016-06-06 08:43:33 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Oba Pichardo details: https://www.facebook.com/ChurchOfTheLuk ... 3840193807
2016-06-06 08:43:38 PM AngeliqueLuna yes!!!
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2016-06-06 08:43:50 PM Papa Newt Oooooh!
2016-06-06 08:43:54 PM Papa Newt Yes, yes, yes!
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2016-06-06 08:45:13 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti There are some which are PURPORTED to be folk saints which aren't!
2016-06-06 08:45:31 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti There are some saints that ARE recognized but people believe them not to be!
2016-06-06 08:45:44 PM Candelos Corner Radio <:o)
2016-06-06 08:46:10 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti July this year, Candelo! :D
2016-06-06 08:46:12 PM Guest2215 enter the room
2016-06-06 08:46:39 PM catherine yronwode Yes, i would!
2016-06-06 08:46:46 PM catherine yronwode The offer is there!
2016-06-06 08:47:42 PM AngeliqueLuna do it candelo!
2016-06-06 08:47:46 PM catherine yronwode For BOTH books!
2016-06-06 08:48:01 PM AngeliqueLuna Have them ready for next year festivel
2016-06-06 08:48:29 PM catherine yronwode "Not everything requires animal sacrifice." LOL.
2016-06-06 08:48:31 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* maferefun eggun
2016-06-06 08:48:40 PM catherine yronwode Yes, a want such a book -- BOTH books.
2016-06-06 08:49:29 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Saint Expedite and THE DEVIL: "The day he decided to become a Christian, the Devil took the form of a crow (a snake in some versions of the legend) and told him to defer his conversion until the next day. Expeditus stamped on the bird and killed it,
2016-06-06 08:49:34 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti declaring, "I'll be a Christian today!""
2016-06-06 08:50:05 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Stepping on that crow is like Michael stepping on the Devil.
2016-06-06 08:50:23 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Martha with the spear against the dragon.
2016-06-06 08:50:55 PM AngeliqueLuna please say yes!
2016-06-06 08:51:15 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti I don't hear Tata Oscar.
2016-06-06 08:51:17 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti There he is.
2016-06-06 08:52:31 PM Readings by Wen Tata, write write write!!!
2016-06-06 08:52:49 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Palo: Congo Rites of Cuba http://www.palomayombe.com/
2016-06-06 08:53:13 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti $25/class, monthly; thurs night, 4 nights /mo, 6 months
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2016-06-06 08:53:25 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti 4 spots left in the class
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2016-06-06 08:53:33 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Tata Oscar (tataguerra@yahoo.com) http://www.oloshasunited.com http://www.eleda.org https://www.facebook.com/EledaOrgPublications
2016-06-06 08:53:50 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Birch Tree // Michael Correll 913-828-2042 http://www.thesacredgrovestore.com
2016-06-06 08:53:54 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti https://www.facebook.com/Unity-of-Wicca ... 240967776/ https://www.youtube.com/user/freakphil1309
2016-06-06 08:54:16 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Candelo Kimbisa http://www.facebook.com/candeloscornerradio http://www.kimbisa.org http://www.hoodoopsychics.com extension 1362
2016-06-06 08:54:27 PM AngeliqueLuna Awesome show! Full of lots of information! Thank you
2016-06-06 08:54:29 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti "May all the eguns and shadows that accompany you have all the necessary light!"
2016-06-06 08:54:41 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* good night everyone have a wonderful evening
2016-06-06 08:54:45 PM Readings by Wen I love this song... Thank to the Tatas and Michael and everyone who contributed to today's broadcast. ¡Un millón de gracias!
2016-06-06 08:54:53 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* quit the room
2016-06-06 08:55:05 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti De nada
2016-06-06 08:55:13 PM Readings by Wen (F)
2016-06-06 08:55:19 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti (F)
2016-06-06 08:55:32 PM Papa Lou quit the room
2016-06-06 08:55:53 PM catherine yronwode Yes, we would gladly publish an into to the ATRs from a non-initiatic point of view -- people ask, and we want to get them good inforation. See the Yronwode Institution for the Preservation and Popularization of Indigenous Ethnomagicology
2016-06-06 08:55:57 PM Candelos Corner Radio (})
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2016-06-06 08:56:13 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti http://www.yronwode.org
2016-06-06 08:56:14 PM catherine yronwode (YIPPIE) -- we just published a good into to North Asian Magic by David Shi....
2016-06-06 08:56:32 PM AngeliqueLuna (F)
2016-06-06 08:56:45 PM catherine yronwode Thank you, tatas.
2016-06-06 08:56:56 PM catherine yronwode "Anything Kimbisa." LOL!
2016-06-06 08:57:01 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti chat captcha
2016-06-06 08:57:04 PM Candelos Corner Radio lol
2016-06-06 08:57:26 PM catherine yronwode capturage
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