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Unread post by Miss Athena » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:40 am

Hello Pisces Lady,

Read the forum threads on cleansing and protecting for advice on how to get rid of spiritual energies that are less than welcome.

Cleansing:
spells-for-blessing-and-cleansing-the-h ... 11828.html

Protection:
general-protection-spell-questions-and- ... 19118.html

I hope this helps. Good luck.
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Unread post by JayDee » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:21 pm

Pisces Lady,

Cleanse the area you worked in with chinese floor wash and also smoke the area with sage, open a window to let the negative energy out. Take a bath in hyssop as you say Psalms 51 to remove sin form cursing.
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Unread post by Pisces Lady » Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:39 pm

Thanks for the help, but I didn't conjure up anything. I was just thinking and the thought came to mind as I was looking at the incense, and certain precautions someone would need.

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Unread post by Miss Athena » Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:53 pm

Hello Pisces Lady,

As with undertaking any kind of negative spells, working with Black Arts should be approached by cleansing and protecting yourself before and after doing your work. It's a smart habit to get into, and one that I advise all of my students to embrace.

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Unread post by musclequeen378 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:26 pm

If I have been working with Erzulie Freda for the same situation, is it ok to also ask Santa Muerte for assistance?

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Unread post by Miss Athena » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:13 am

Hello musicqueen378,

I have merged your post into the topic on working with spirits and deities, as this is the best fit for your question, which has been asked and answered before. Please do not start new topics as you did, as you will see we have nearly every topic already covered on the forum.

Please read through the posts here for help and ideas on working with more than one spirit for the same goal. If you still have questions after reading, feel free to ask here.

I hope this helps. Good luck.
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Unread post by LuckyScorpio » Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:46 pm

I know this is asking al ot but what type of signs or symbols would the saints listed below send to show that they are willing to work with you?

Saint Jude,
Saint Rita,
Saint Expedite,
Saint Christopher,
Saint Homobonus,
Saint Joseph,
Saint Cajetan,
Saint Martin de Porres

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:22 pm

musclequeen378 --

Erzuli Freda comes to us through Haitian Voodoo. Most people initiated in Vodoun would caution against also venerating spirits from other religions.. The veneration of Santisima Muerte is derived from remnants of indigenous Aztec culture as exemplified in modern Catholic Mexico. It's an entirely different form of worship. Only you can decide for yourself if you are authentically connecting to these spirits.

LuckyScorpio --

This is quite a long list, but i would like to open a question about your assumption that there are indeed some "type of signs or symbols" that indicate whether a given Catholic saint is "willing to work with you."

As far as i know, there is no Catholic doctrine or long-standing Catholic folk magic practice that specifies such signs or symbols. Traditionally, in folk-Catholic practice, you ask for intercession or aid from a saint whose patronage is somehow associated with your desire, and the prayer is either granted or not. If it is granted, then you owe that saint a measure of thanks, according to your vow and according to whatever he or she is traditionally said to favour (e.g. alms for the poor, a public thanks, an offering of flowers, etc.)

In other words, i know of no system of pre-vetting a saint's help via omens or signs before you make your prayer.

For a list of Catholic saints and their patronage, see: http://luckymojo.com/patronsaints.html

You will also enjoy Papa Newt's articles on Catholic Folk Magic and Catholic Saints in the book "The Red Folder, i am sure. See: http://luckymojo.com/theredfolder.html

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Unread post by musclequeen378 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:31 pm

Is it ok to work with multiple deities within the same religion? For example, if you're a hoodoo worker, is it ok to work with one hoodoo spirit for love and then another for separation since they're both in the same religion? Thanks

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Unread post by Miss Athena » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:39 pm

Hello musclequeen378,

You have already asked this question before and received a response from Miss cat, which you will find here:
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Please refer to that answer, and do not re-post the same question as this is against forum rules.

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Unread post by musclequeen378 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:13 pm

No it's not the same question. I was asking about Hecate. This one is regarding 2 spirits within the same religion.

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Unread post by musclequeen378 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:12 pm

I already got my answer, thank you

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Unread post by Shutter » Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:19 am

I've been working with St. Anthony and St. Jude to bring about my target back in my arms physically, emotionally, spiritually and mentally. I saw him yesterday by chance and gave him a blow job...but it wasn't what I've been praying for. However, I'm not sure if that's what the saints have given me, I'm not done with the novenas yet, and I thanked them through prayer but I'm not sure if I should be making my donations in their name now or after I'm finished burning the candles, and not sure if that's what they've given me and what I've been praying for for an extensive day together with those things that I stated is not going to come about, or if it IS going to come about and that's just a bonus that I got...how do you think I should handle my thanks and should I expect more since it's not exactly what I was looking for and we were definatley not in each others arms so to speak...I don't want to offend either saint.
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Unread post by FiachnaCybele » Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:57 am

Hi Shutter,

I'd see this more as positive movement, versus a completion of your request, since you said you asked for him to be with you physically, emotionally, spiritually and mentally. He was with you physically, which shows that you're moving in the right direction. Pray to your saints for guidance, and I'd suggest thanking them for the movement toward your end goal, then ask for the rest to come to fruition, per your initial request.

Showing gratitude for your spell's progression is very respectful, even while you're still hoping and praying for the rest!

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Unread post by TheFattMac101 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:32 pm

How would you know if Jesus malverde jealous

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Unread post by FiachnaCybele » Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:54 am

Hi TheFattMac101,

I'd get quiet, light a candle for him, and ask him. Wait for signs, feelings, or a message, and see what comes up.

Is there any particular reason you think he would be jealous?
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Unread post by TheFattMac101 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:50 pm

No i work with san simon and malverde just to be aware of anything

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Unread post by FiachnaCybele » Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:58 pm

Hi TheFattMac101,

I suggest reading through this excellent thread, if you haven't already, to get ideas of how other people work with saints and spirits and communicate with them. You should be able to check in with both San Simon and Jesus Malverde to see if they are okay with you working with both, what they'd like on their altars (if anything), etc.

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Unread post by LuckyScorpio » Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:33 am

I was searching through the deity oils, but I don't see one for Amphitrite, so I wanted to know would frankincense oil be good to use or a different oil?

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Unread post by Miss Athena » Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:40 am

Hello LuckyScorpio,

It depends on what you are petitioning Amphitrite to help you with, and I am presuming it has something to do with safe travel or for calm during a storm. If you could be a little more clear in your intention, then we can advise you properly.
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Unread post by TheFattMac101 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:06 pm

How do I use black san simon candle

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Unread post by Miss Athena » Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:04 pm

Hello TheFattMac101,

You can petition San Simon for help with luck, love or money. You can burn the candle while building a relationship with him before asking for his help, or during your request for help, or afterwards in tribute to any help he has provided. Typical offerings include money, tobacco and alcohol.

I hope this helps. Good luck.
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Unread post by Charles_ » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:17 pm

Hello. I want to know if is there any section at this forum where you can share information about different world spells related with religion, spirits or saints. Thanks

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Unread post by Miss Athena » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:17 am

Hello Charles_,

This forum is the customer service arm of the Lucky Mojo Curio Company, and assists customers in the use of products purchased from Lucky Mojo for the practice of hoodoo conjure. It is not a general forum for magical traditions around the world.

You can always consult the AIRR (Association of Independent Readers and Rootworkers) site, which is an enormous resource for information on magic and spirituality. You can find thewebsite here:
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Unread post by TheFattMac101 » Mon May 25, 2020 11:39 pm

Quick "Q" what kind of herbs dosse san simon like in his candles??

Thank you for your time..

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Unread post by Miss Athena » Tue May 26, 2020 9:44 pm

Hello TheFattMac101,

I would lightly dust them with some ground tobacco, as he was the patron of those who love drinking and smoking.

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Unread post by TheFattMac101 » Thu May 28, 2020 7:28 am

Any thing els... Other then ground up tobacco?

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Unread post by Terra Rising » Thu May 28, 2020 4:51 pm

TheFattMac101,

If tobacco is a no go, then just offer some liquor and money around the candle. I would try to stick to what is traditionally used if possible though.

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Unread post by TheFattMac101 » Thu May 28, 2020 10:47 pm

I like the way that sounds thank you so much and god bless

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Unread post by TheFattMac101 » Fri May 29, 2020 7:22 am

What kind of herbs does malverde like in his candal

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Unread post by RisenRaven » Fri May 29, 2020 12:21 pm

Hi TheFattMac101,

In the spirit of teaching a man to fish, I was able to find an answer by searching the net for “offerings to Malverde.”
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Unread post by Miss Athena » Fri May 29, 2020 9:56 pm

Hello TheFattMac101,

Since this forum is intended to provide customer service support for the Lucky Mojo Curio Company, our goal is to assist customers in the use of their products purchased from Lucky Mojo.

You can find a collection of products for use when petitioning Jesus Malverde here:

https://www.luckymojo.com/products-jesus-malverde.html

I hope this helps. Good luck.
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Unread post by Skorpabtheru » Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:52 am

Anyone worked with the jezebel spirit and she helped control and mess up someone mental state and had them become homeless and jobless?

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Unread post by Terra Rising » Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:57 am

Skorpabtheru,

I believe Miss Athena answered a similar question from you on another thread. Please refrain from reposting the same question on different threads. I have never heard of someone working with that spirit in that matter. If you are set on working with the Jezebal spirit I would advise you to go back to your original post and use the link Miss Athena provided.

Little Devils have been employed this way and you can find out how to work with them here: https://www.luckymojo.com/devils.html

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Unread post by musclequeen378 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:41 pm

Not sure where to post this topic, but has anyone experienced this before? Every time I place a cup of water on my altar to offer my spirits, usually a week or two later, the water goes down about half a cup instead of the full cup it started with! No one touches my space. Second time this has happened.

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Unread post by Miss Athena » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:37 am

Hello musclequeen378,

Water evaporates, and certainly water left out that long will be reduced over time. I don't see this as necessarily spiritual in nature.

One word of advice, replace your offerings more often. Would you be satisfied if someone offered you a cup of water that had been sitting out for weeks? No, you would prefer a fresh drink. So do your spirits.

Just a thought.
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Unread post by musclequeen378 » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:29 pm

I was thinking evaporation at first, but was hoping maybe it happens mostly outdoors, but thanks for the answer. Makes total sense.

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Unread post by Alice Kyteler » Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:38 am

A lot of people have asked about ways to pay or other things to do or thank the saint for the help. (you can include this post of mine in the saints payment thread)

Offering a church service is well appreciated for saints, just speak about my experience. Before going to church you can state "my dear (name the Saint) I go today to church service, to the mass, to give thanks to you". Or in church I say "I offer this service to honour (the Saint) for all the assistance she/he/they has/have given to me".

Have had extraordinary experiences when going to churches to the mass to thank the saints; in my case:
-Saint Michael
-Saint Raphael
-Saint Gabriel
-Guardian Angel
-Saint Therese
-Saint Jerome
-Saint Magdalene
-Saint Peter
-Saint Lucía
(They list is huge as I work regularly on Saints)
-Saint Martha: who even had a place reserved just for ME that day so I could be under her wonderful and beautiful altar during all the service.
-Jesuschrist: of course!!! He had a place reserved to me as well!, That day, I got up in the morning at 6.am. because due Covid restrictions the church has limited places and that day (a feast day), a lot of people were about to come and I wanted to have a place (those who come late, don't get a place so they can't go inside). I arrived the first one, and waited for more than an hour and a half stood up with no seat waiting for the church to be opened, just to give thanks to Jesus that day and I even had petition him nothing in particular, I just wanted to be there that day to honour him.

I promised them going to church when petition is granted specially or while working with them, on their feast days at least is a a custom to me. I even broke the law trespassing not allowed areas to enter due to a restriction. That's was my sacrifice: Put me in risk me to have an issue with the police and being fined. I felt like these spirits supported me all the time during my sacrifice/criminal adventure. I'm NOT encouraging anyone here to break the law (I Hope you understand this), but I had a promise myself with the three Archangels, Jerome, Therese and my Guardian Angel and had to go to the church. According to my local politicians, It was needed to lock a half of the city (political nonsense) so we have been like in Berlin with the Wall: "no trespass this limit because you can spread that virus, but you can come here if you work here or spend your money in this city limit and improve the econony " with no health mesures at all, yeah, politicians!
Of course going to church was forbiden, my locked city limit wasn't in that part of the city.
Keeping all the health measures and all that, I went to the church when I was not allowed in that time.
The signals I received, the peace, the feelling...saints seemed to enjoy all this. It was even funny. I felt like a criminal...for going to church.
The day I had to go to give Saint Michael thanks, the church perimeter was FULL surrounded by police officers, I was even about to give up, they could've asked for my ID card and discover I was not allowed to enter that area. But I did not want to give up: I promised my dear saint Michael I had to go there: I enter the church with no problems, my conclusion is that it was a challenge from Saint Michael to see how far could I go for him or if I was being honest with my promise of going to church full of faith. A faith test.

I do this all the time: I give thanks in church and when is the saint feast day, I go again. So I go regularly because I have to give a lot of thanks (It was Saint Jude who thanks to his miracles, I went back to church).
If time and money allow me, I have even planned a few pilgrimages to sacred places where many Saints are buried or Virgin Mary sanctuaries and shrines, etc.


Go to church, pray for them. As simple as that. There's no more beautiful present for them, they deserve it, they're holy Spirit who lived for Jesus, Jesus Saints.
Your relationship with the Saint is going to improve.
Thank you Saint Jude, glorious Apostle, miracle performer, because you took me back to Jesus.

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