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Re: Deities, Angels, Spirits, Saints: Questions about Techniques

Unread post by Miss Athena » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:40 am

Hello Pisces Lady,

Read the forum threads on cleansing and protecting for advice on how to get rid of spiritual energies that are less than welcome.

Cleansing:
spells-for-blessing-and-cleansing-the-h ... 11828.html

Protection:
general-protection-spell-questions-and- ... 19118.html

I hope this helps. Good luck.
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Re: Deities, Angels, Spirits, Saints: Questions about Techniques

Unread post by JayDee » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:21 pm

Pisces Lady,

Cleanse the area you worked in with chinese floor wash and also smoke the area with sage, open a window to let the negative energy out. Take a bath in hyssop as you say Psalms 51 to remove sin form cursing.
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Re: Deities, Angels, Spirits, Saints: Questions about Techniques

Unread post by Pisces Lady » Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:39 pm

Thanks for the help, but I didn't conjure up anything. I was just thinking and the thought came to mind as I was looking at the incense, and certain precautions someone would need.

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Unread post by Miss Athena » Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:53 pm

Hello Pisces Lady,

As with undertaking any kind of negative spells, working with Black Arts should be approached by cleansing and protecting yourself before and after doing your work. It's a smart habit to get into, and one that I advise all of my students to embrace.

Good luck.
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working with more than one diety or spirit

Unread post by musclequeen378 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:26 pm

If I have been working with Erzulie Freda for the same situation, is it ok to also ask Santa Muerte for assistance?

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Unread post by Miss Athena » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:13 am

Hello musicqueen378,

I have merged your post into the topic on working with spirits and deities, as this is the best fit for your question, which has been asked and answered before. Please do not start new topics as you did, as you will see we have nearly every topic already covered on the forum.

Please read through the posts here for help and ideas on working with more than one spirit for the same goal. If you still have questions after reading, feel free to ask here.

I hope this helps. Good luck.
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Re: Deities, Angels, Spirits, Saints: Questions about Techniques

Unread post by LuckyScorpio » Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:46 pm

I know this is asking al ot but what type of signs or symbols would the saints listed below send to show that they are willing to work with you?

Saint Jude,
Saint Rita,
Saint Expedite,
Saint Christopher,
Saint Homobonus,
Saint Joseph,
Saint Cajetan,
Saint Martin de Porres

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:22 pm

musclequeen378 --

Erzuli Freda comes to us through Haitian Voodoo. Most people initiated in Vodoun would caution against also venerating spirits from other religions.. The veneration of Santisima Muerte is derived from remnants of indigenous Aztec culture as exemplified in modern Catholic Mexico. It's an entirely different form of worship. Only you can decide for yourself if you are authentically connecting to these spirits.

LuckyScorpio --

This is quite a long list, but i would like to open a question about your assumption that there are indeed some "type of signs or symbols" that indicate whether a given Catholic saint is "willing to work with you."

As far as i know, there is no Catholic doctrine or long-standing Catholic folk magic practice that specifies such signs or symbols. Traditionally, in folk-Catholic practice, you ask for intercession or aid from a saint whose patronage is somehow associated with your desire, and the prayer is either granted or not. If it is granted, then you owe that saint a measure of thanks, according to your vow and according to whatever he or she is traditionally said to favour (e.g. alms for the poor, a public thanks, an offering of flowers, etc.)

In other words, i know of no system of pre-vetting a saint's help via omens or signs before you make your prayer.

For a list of Catholic saints and their patronage, see: http://luckymojo.com/patronsaints.html

You will also enjoy Papa Newt's articles on Catholic Folk Magic and Catholic Saints in the book "The Red Folder, i am sure. See: http://luckymojo.com/theredfolder.html

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Re: Deities, Angels, Spirits, Saints: Questions about Techniques

Unread post by musclequeen378 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:31 pm

Is it ok to work with multiple deities within the same religion? For example, if you're a hoodoo worker, is it ok to work with one hoodoo spirit for love and then another for separation since they're both in the same religion? Thanks

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Unread post by Miss Athena » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:39 pm

Hello musclequeen378,

You have already asked this question before and received a response from Miss cat, which you will find here:
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Please refer to that answer, and do not re-post the same question as this is against forum rules.

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Unread post by musclequeen378 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:13 pm

No it's not the same question. I was asking about Hecate. This one is regarding 2 spirits within the same religion.

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Unread post by musclequeen378 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:12 pm

I already got my answer, thank you

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Re: Deities, Angels, Spirits, Saints: Questions about Techniques

Unread post by Shutter » Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:19 am

I've been working with St. Anthony and St. Jude to bring about my target back in my arms physically, emotionally, spiritually and mentally. I saw him yesterday by chance and gave him a blow job...but it wasn't what I've been praying for. However, I'm not sure if that's what the saints have given me, I'm not done with the novenas yet, and I thanked them through prayer but I'm not sure if I should be making my donations in their name now or after I'm finished burning the candles, and not sure if that's what they've given me and what I've been praying for for an extensive day together with those things that I stated is not going to come about, or if it IS going to come about and that's just a bonus that I got...how do you think I should handle my thanks and should I expect more since it's not exactly what I was looking for and we were definatley not in each others arms so to speak...I don't want to offend either saint.
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Re: Deities, Angels, Spirits, Saints: Questions about Techniques

Unread post by FiachnaCybele » Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:57 am

Hi Shutter,

I'd see this more as positive movement, versus a completion of your request, since you said you asked for him to be with you physically, emotionally, spiritually and mentally. He was with you physically, which shows that you're moving in the right direction. Pray to your saints for guidance, and I'd suggest thanking them for the movement toward your end goal, then ask for the rest to come to fruition, per your initial request.

Showing gratitude for your spell's progression is very respectful, even while you're still hoping and praying for the rest!

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Re: Deities, Angels, Spirits, Saints: Questions about Techniques

Unread post by TheFattMac101 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:32 pm

How would you know if Jesus malverde jealous

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Unread post by FiachnaCybele » Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:54 am

Hi TheFattMac101,

I'd get quiet, light a candle for him, and ask him. Wait for signs, feelings, or a message, and see what comes up.

Is there any particular reason you think he would be jealous?
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Unread post by TheFattMac101 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:50 pm

No i work with san simon and malverde just to be aware of anything

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Unread post by FiachnaCybele » Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:58 pm

Hi TheFattMac101,

I suggest reading through this excellent thread, if you haven't already, to get ideas of how other people work with saints and spirits and communicate with them. You should be able to check in with both San Simon and Jesus Malverde to see if they are okay with you working with both, what they'd like on their altars (if anything), etc.

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