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Unread post by Turnsteel » Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:06 am

Roxi_goes_hard wrote:Thanks for your suggestions! Since I do live in an urban area, leaving a reasonably sized mirror box in a crossroad is not feasible. People report that kind of stuff to police. Also, recycling and trash are separate services and no one goes through trash looking for recyclables as they are already separated at pick up. In my city, trash is buried.

I guess I'm concerned about effect and privacy? Leaving my work in a city crossroads runs a strong risk of me being exposed (I'm solitary and practice in secret). I want the most bang for my efforts. I'm a bit of a perfectionist!

Also, I'm now considering a hot foot jar and a vinegar jar, in conjunction with a mirror box. My husband has emotionally blackmailed me, has been verbally abusive and manipulative, with me as his whipping girl. After 15 years of avoiding any spell work on him and taking the high road, it's time for the big guns (aka spells).

You could bury it at a grave, ask the spirit for permission and be sure to pay the spirit. Tho even if you do live in an urban area disposing of something at a crossroads shouldn't be a problem, do it very late at night if your that worried.
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Unread post by charmingstew » Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:05 pm

Hi
I just finished my Marriage vigil candle and my instincts tell me to get all the glitter remains out of the glass and fold it into the petition paper folding toward me then bury it in the back yard? Does that sound correct? Would I be able to recycle the glass at that point?
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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:35 pm

charmingstew,

Sure, you could do that. I have never heard of anyone advocating such a method, but it sounds pleasant enough. Good luck!
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Unread post by Caedryn » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:46 pm

Still waiting for an answer to my post above.

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Unread post by Doctor Hob » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:58 pm

--Caedryn,

I'm not sure I've ever been told why we bury these kinds of spell remains. To me, burying it makes it a part of the home, rather than just a thing sitting in the house. It becomes a part of a growing, organic thing, be it in your lawn, or in a potted plant.

The long and the short of it is that we bury it because that is the traditional way, and it works.
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Unread post by remyq » Mon May 20, 2013 10:42 pm

Hello!

Here's my situation. In February, I made a relatively strong mojo bag to attract this guy I had my eye on. The problem is now, it's not all what I had hoped it would be, I'm just not into it, and he thinks he's in love with me. He did find and touch the bag the first night we were together, although I know he didn't know what it was. I'm counting on the fact that that killed it, although I'm not to sure.

I'm trying to end things, but I don't want to hurt him. I've tried talking to him, but he just wont listen to what I'm saying, and only hears what he wants to hear.

I'm wondering if there's a way to ensure the bag is dead, and then what would be the best way to dispose of it, or if possible reverse it. I wasn't sure about burying it, because I don't want to keep the bag going - I want to cancel it's effects, if possible? Or just fully dispose of it so I can move on to try some cut and clear work.

Any advice would be wonderful! Thank you!

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Unread post by Dr Johannes » Mon May 20, 2013 11:50 pm

Congratulations on making an effective Mojo.

I suggest you thank the bag and tell it that it´s job is done- Then cut open up the bag with the intent to kill and shatter it and its effects. Rinse all the hard parts in cold water. Then put it in the freezer and pray something like "As cold as this bag is, as cold shall NN´s love for me be" x3. Once there is a sufficient distance between the two of you, bring out the bag, burn it and shatter the ashes in running water.
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Unread post by Newbie » Thu May 30, 2013 6:48 pm

Hello,
One of the guys at a local place did a 7 day ritual for me to keep my girlfriend from straying towards the negative influences in her life. The first day of the ritual was a Friday and it was as perfect as expected from the ritual. The next day we got into a fight and eventually have had no contact with each other since. I am beginning to think that this gentleman may have missed something or may have not done the ritual properly. I am not sure. After the ritual he gave me a red mojo bag and a bottle of oil mixed with the different powders that he said he had used for the ritual (Commanding oil, come to me oil, powdered lodestone and several other things. He had also added her personal concerns to the ritual. I have been carrying the mojo bag as he suggested but like I said everything prior to the ritual was ok, not perfect but ok. From the second day of the ritual there was nothing left, no girlfriend, no relationship. I want to dispose off the red mojo bag from the ritual and the bottle of oil as I am beginning to think that something is not right and I need to keep this mojo bag away from me.
What are my choices, please help?

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Unread post by Mama Micki » Fri May 31, 2013 6:52 am

Bury the mojo and oil at a crossroads, if it feels that "something is not right." Next time order from Lucky Mojo to assure that your items are put together the right way and prayed over.
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Unread post by magicallyleia » Fri May 31, 2013 1:17 pm

I made a doll baby "dollie" of a loved one who would not be open to allowing me to help them with healing. They are dealing with mental illness, and I found a bath that i wanted to use in Miss Cat's Herb and Root magic Green book. I have most of the materials for the bath, and have made the "dollie" and baptized it. Giving it a name and making it come alive and be active. Because I care for this person a lot I want to honor this doll the best I can and only give it healing a love like I would give the individual in person if they would let me reach out to them.

My main Concern is how do I correctly dispose of the dollie when the healing process is over? I want the individual to continue to be healed and live a happy life with the mental illness being controlled; thus allowing them to take the further steps after my healing work has been done so that they can continue to be happy long after i am done using the dollie?

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Fri May 31, 2013 4:54 pm

Wrap the dollie up in a clean white handkerchief and place it in a safe, quiet place. It need not be disposed of. A high closet shelf is often selected for this purpose.
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Unread post by Newbie » Fri May 31, 2013 6:01 pm

Mama Micki wrote:Bury the mojo and oil at a crossroads, if it feels that "something is not right." Next time order from Lucky Mojo to assure that your items are put together the right way and prayed over.
Thank you so much for your quick reply. I talked to that gentleman today he asked me to bring the mojo bag to him and said he will help me dispose it off, should I do that?

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Unread post by magicallyleia » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:50 pm

Miss Cat,

I am sorry for having to ask this silly question but what is a "wuit" place i searched the definition and it came up with "waking up in time" is this a reference to something?

Thank you so much for your help!

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Unread post by magicallyleia » Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:48 pm

Thank you miss cat the spell has show expedience in helping his recovery you are wonderful thank you so much.

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Unread post by thebleurose » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:15 pm

I had placed the remains from my love work inside a vase on my altar. Well, things started going really well between my target and myself. I decided it would be a good time to bury the vase in my yard to keep things as they were. I placed the vase in a brown paper bag and placed it outside to bury. Before I got the chance to bury it, my aunt scooped it up and threw it the trash and can and rolled it out to the curb. My remains were gone before I even realized it.

I tried to stay positive and pray that this would have no ill effects. Unfortunately, things have gone completely downhill since this happened.

I am just wondering what I can do to remedy this? Obviously, I cannot get the remains back.

I still have my honey jar and I am still burning candles on it, but things just are not the same.

Thanks in advance for any help and advice.

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:17 pm

thebluerose,

I have never had the experience of someone trashing my materials, and i have to say that i too would find it very shocking and disconcerting if it had happened to me.

If things are really falling apart, i would work the same spell again.
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Unread post by thebleurose » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:38 am

Thank you! I will do it again. I just feel that it definitely had a negative impact. It's so disappointing that I even let this happen b/c things were going so well. Now, it's like all the progress is gone, but it worked the first time so I have faith it will work again.

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Unread post by branden » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:15 pm

One of the plants I've buried my remains has since died. Should I unearth the remains and bury it somewhere else?

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Unread post by aura » Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:49 am

If the spell is still one whose results you want to keep close then yes, that would be a good idea branden.
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Unread post by MoonSunStar » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:47 am

Hi,
I was wondering if I could put candle wax, ritual remains from different spells in the same envelope and dispose it all together at once? I've done several simple candle love and healing spells and I''ve collected the remains of them in one envelope. Since I live at a temporary place that don't have a garden to bury it in, I need to find another way to dispose them. The appropriate way would be to throw them in a crossroad. I hope it's ok to put them all together and dispose them at the same time??? Thanks!

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:36 am

MoonSunStar,

Yours is a frequently-asked question, so i have merged your post here, and i think that if you go back through the thread and read from the beginning, you will find some answers to your questions. If you still have questions, just append them to this thread and we will be glad to reply.
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Unread post by MoonSunStar » Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:28 pm

Ok so I've been reading and reading almost an hour now. I have remains from candle love spells and healing spells. I don't have a back or front yard. I live in a temporary place, a hotel. I can't have a potted plant. The best solution is to bury the remains under a tree somewhere??? Is that correct or should I throw it in a crossroad? And I have to do so early at dawn in the morning?? Please help, as far as I know or read about, I need to dispose of the remains properly for it to be effective! Can i dispose them all together in one white paper or envelope? Please answer my questions, I've asked this several times without a proper answer :( Thank you so much!

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Unread post by Miss Aida » Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:27 pm

MoonSunStar,
Dispose of them where you feel more comfortable. Crossroads or by a tree. Whichever makes you comfortable.
Personally, if I were to chose burying by trees, I would go to a park that has lots of trees. I would find 2 different trees, ask their permission, and wait to see the feelings that I get approval from trees). I would bury one work by one tree (and pay the tree) and then the other work by a different tree (and pay that tree).
That's just me.
Hope this helps.
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Unread post by MoonSunStar » Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:32 pm

Thanks Miss Aida!
But I've collected them all in one paper :( Can I bury them all together? Also, what time is appropriate?? And by "pay that tree", how do I pay the tree?? Thanks for replying. I'm going crazy and sleepless reading through posts to find answers :((

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Unread post by Miss Aida » Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:58 pm

MoonSunStar,
If you can't separate them then, I guess you have no choice.
Disposal is as soon as possible.
There's several means of payment but the easiest for me is to pay a dime per tree.
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Unread post by MoonSunStar » Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:08 pm

Should I bury the money too or just put it by the tree? We don't use dimes here in this country so I have to put a money bill. Thanks a lot! :D

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Unread post by aura » Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:10 pm

You can just put it by the tree.
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Unread post by foxglove701 » Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:28 pm

I was stabbed and still have the garment. If i burn it, will that bond the person who attacked me, to me or clear the event. Also, the wound still itches. Any oils i should treat myself with.

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Unread post by Miss Aida » Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:15 pm

Hi, Foxglove701,
Oh, My. You poor thing!
Just to make sure, I would wash that shirt first. Take it to the laundry mat and wash it in the hot cycle. During the rinse cycle, pour Lucky Mojo Chinese wash. or Florida water, etc. Then, you can burn it.
Itching is a sign of either: Healing or an infection. I would go to the Doctor and have him look at the incision and take some blood work just to make sure.
Praying for your speedy recovery. I'm so sorry that this happened to you
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Unread post by TrynaKnowNGrow » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:42 am

What advice would you give to someone who FORGOT to preform one crucial step in a certain spell? Ohhhh...let's say for instance, yours truly made three wishes, with three wishing beans, seven days ago and conveniently FORGOT that the seventh day, the day to throw those beans into moving water, was actually TODAY and not TOMRROW? What happens? Worse case scenario, the wishes reverse? So-so Scenario, the beans need to be disposed of (and how?) and new beans used to "re-wish" Or..best case scenario, just hold the beans in pocket for seven more days and make sure to do it right this time?? Ugh!!! :|
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Unread post by Colette » Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:10 pm

Tryna

I had a similar scenario once. As it turned out, the wish I was asking for wasn't exactly the thing I'd end up (i.e. should be) doing - I switched to another area in that field I'm much better suited to.

Your wish wouldn't get "reversed". I'd complete the spell and dispose it tomorrow, and let it go. I might do it again another time, if necessary.
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Unread post by TrynaKnowNGrow » Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:18 pm

Colette wrote:Tryna

I had a similar scenario once. As it turned out, the wish I was asking for wasn't exactly the thing I'd end up (i.e. should be) doing - I switched to another area in that field I'm much better suited to.

Your wish wouldn't get "reversed". I'd complete the spell and dispose it tomorrow, and let it go. I might do it again another time, if necessary.
Phew!! Great advice, Colette. Many thanks!!

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Unread post by Done2 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:10 pm

Okay, I'm reading reading and reading, but a couple of questions came up.

1) Is an overpass the same as a crossroad? I was thinking of doing the 13 day bath, and I could scoop the water up in a travel mug, and just poor it out on the yellow line as I was driving over the highway. It wouldn't hit anyone below, and anybody who saw me would just think I was throwing out cold coffee.

2) I've noticed a few of the spells call for you to bury things at a crossroad. Every crossroad I can think of is either paved or hard pack. So do you bury at one of the corners? If so, which corner?

I also have a few comments regarding what I've read in this thread.

3) I was always taught (Scottish) that any offering should be put outside, preferably under a tree and the "spirits" will take care of it.

4) For burying outside in the winter, you can warm up the dirt in the garden by using BBQ Charcoal. Hate to say it, but I learned that one when my childhood cat died.

5) If you're burying it in a plant, make sure it's a larger one. I've noticed in my reading about plants dying when you bury something under it. Well if it's a little root bound thing in a 4" pot, you add salts to that and it's going to die, most plants really hate salts. IMO it would be better to repot in a larger pot where you can put some soil in, your remains, some more soil, and then the plant.

But those are just my opinions.

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Unread post by Miss Aida » Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:39 pm

Good Evening, Bulldogge / done,

I wouldn't throw that for a few reasons -- but that is just my way: To me, "throwing or tossing" suggest that the work is junk or that the disposal is meant to be sudden, abrupt, or possibly hard-hearted.

When I go to the crossroads, I am respectfully meeting and asking spirit to help me with this work. I am also respectfully and carefully placing my work so that it is handled the same. Think of your work as a newborn baby. You're taking good care of it and you're placing it in the hands of a terrific Nanny who will continue nurturing the baby.

However, it is traditional to throw water out of a pan to the crossroads. See the thread on disposaing of bathwater. "Throwing" means different things to different people, and is dependent on the nature of what is being thrown, poured, or buried.

And the same goes for the tree. Yes, spirit will take care of the work at the tree but, so does the tree spirit. When you bury it by the tree, you're asking the tree to take care of your "baby". And the work will grow with the tree while the tree nurtures it.

The disposal of a cleansing egg by throwing it and breaking it at the base of a tree is a form of release of the energy, a casting off of the negativity. It is not the same as the burial of a tender hope or wish

Again, the nature of the work and the nature of the items being disposed of will influence your choice of methods.

As far as which direction at the crossroads. Well, that's up to each practitioner. Some practitioners go with the direction associated with the type of work. Others just go with East. So, that's up to you.

Thank you for reminding us about the charcoal! Always good to see something very useful every now and then!

As far as the potted plant goes, well, you make perfect sense.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us!
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Unread post by Done2 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:38 am

Miss Aida,

Ahh..... so no quick driveby's. So, if I have to drive to a crossroad (I want to spread it in a certain direction). I should turn the car towards home, walk back and then pour, and then walk towards the car without looking back?

The city I live in seems to absolutely love offset intersections, so crossroads are a bit more difficult to find than in most cities.

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:17 am

Buldogge / done --

1) Is an overpass the same as a crossroad? That's a good question. I have seen it used as such for cast-off or thrown-away disposals, such as a Hot Foot spell disposal. I participated in one of these many years ago. The idea was to drive the freeway south out of Oakland toward Hayward, tossing bits at every junction overpass and at "the maze" -- a large structure of freeway interchanges. This "drive-by" disposal was not be used for a simple disposal of cleansing bath water. It was an angry disposal, performed in stages, literally to drive someone out of town.

Here is a picture of a section of the Oakland Maze:

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2) Some folks use the corners of a crossroads. Many just place the item(s) at the center. A roundabout is a crossroads with a center. A railroad crossing a road is also a crossroads.

Here is a picture of a traffic roundabout:

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3) Scottish teachings have certainly influenced African American hoodoo, there is no doubt. African methods are also important. Many Black Americans are part Scots-Irish and this indicates contact and cultural transmission as well as genetic mingling.

4) The use of ways to warm the dirt are cultural transmissions of interest. Thanks for sharing. In the US South, such ways of working are not transmitted because the ground rarely freezes solid.

5) I teach folks to transplant the plant into the larger pot, with the item for burial undernath the root ball. I do not teach people to try to bury something under an already potted plant.

For a set of general traditional guidelines regarding disposal of ritual remains of all kinds, please see my "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice" web page "Laying Down Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remains" from my free online book "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice:

Laying Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remains in the Hoodoo Tradition
http://luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html

In addition, these are the forum threads that deal with ritual disposals:

Disposal of Ritual Remains Questions and Answers
disposal-of-ritual-remains-questions-an ... 10676.html

Disposing of Bath Water and Floor Wash Remains
disposing-of-bath-water-and-floor-wash- ... ml#p120548

Using Leftover Incense Ash in Rootwork
using-leftover-incense-ash-in-rootwork-t24073.html

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Unread post by crzblu3y3z » Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:36 am

Is it necessary to bury the jar from the 7 day candles one its finished burning?
I know that most work when finished you bury the remains or your work.
The 7 day candles jars are quite large and a little hard to bury if you live in a city or in an apartment complex.
Suggestions?
Or is it ok to keep the jar or throw it away without "disrespecting" the practice? (for lack of better words)
Thanks.

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Unread post by MissMichaele » Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:56 pm

crzblu3y3z,

Recycle the glass!! There, that was easy, wasn't it? :D

BTW, burial isn't the only proper or respectful way to dispose of candle remains. Check this out:

For a set of general traditional guidelines regarding disposal of ritual remains of all kinds, please see my "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice" web page "Laying Down Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remains" from my free online book "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice:

Laying Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remains in the Hoodoo Tradition
http://luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html

In addition, these are the forum threads that deal with ritual disposals:

Disposal of Ritual Remains Questions and Answers
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Re: Disposal of Ritual Remains Questions and Answers

Unread post by crzblu3y3z » Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:16 pm

What do I do with the petition (the little piece of paper under the candle) I can bury that, if that is what is called for. (b/c its small)

and what about the "steady work" 7 day, it calls for a dollar bill to be placed under with the petition. Once the candle is burned do i keep the dollar, bury it with the petition, spend it? ... I dont know.

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Unread post by Mary Bee » Sat Aug 24, 2013 6:10 pm

Bulldogge / done.

Just as another opinion: I've done drive by disposals at crossroads for water and I've had good results. Not everyone works that way, but it worked for me.

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I would put the petition into a mojo bag or packet and keep it safe, or carry it on you if you want to. The dollar bill, do the same thing. Lots of people carry petitions with them in mojo bags, or dollars as well.
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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:16 am

Over at my personal Facebook page, a reader of this forum asked me a question via personal message. I do not reply to questions via the Facebook personal messaging system, but i do reply in this forum, so, out of consideration for the person's privacy, i will strip the sender-name off and post the query here, with my reply, for all to see:

THE QUESTION:

I was wondering if I could ask you something about a box of spiritual supplies, donated to a close friend some years ago, that has been sealed up in his garage for some 5 years.

The original owner died in a car accident.

Yesterday we opened the box. NOT a good idea. We found an assortment of very sticky, bad-vibed items. I am thinking he was into dark magic from what I found, and it made 2 of the 4 of us VERY uncomfortable. To the point of "cleansing bath" uncomfortable.

What made it so odd and uncomfortable, is that there was a large lock, or should I say section, of hair in the box, and it could have been his, or his girlfriends, or both strung together. I think he as into very dark magic, and it backfired on him.

We feel like we are sitting on a time bomb, or a Pandora's Box, so to speak. My friend has kept the box to respect the passed-on man, but at this point, I am wondering if keeping it sealed in a garage is not more disrespectful than just burying it.

We are wondering if we should salvage anything. There are some books in there that are rare and worthy, possibly. Or, how should we dispose of the box????

Any help would be appreciated. You are one of the few people I feel can help. And I also would say, in this case, you are definitely the one to ask. I know how much you know about stuff like this. Any advice?


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Your question is not clear. You have several choices and have not yet selected one.

Disposal with "respect":
If your intent is to show "respect" to the person or to his magical tradition, you may do so by merely returning the items to him, and the normal way would be to bury the box and its entire contents (with nothing removed from it) in the grave of the deceased man.

Disposal for the sake of destroying black magic:
Burning suspect negative magical goods and ritual components is the norm for disposal and destruction, and is considered more effective than burial, and, when the owner is deceased, burning in a fire of Florida Water Cologne is good.

Disposal for profit: You mentioned the potential value of the books. If you wish to save the books or any other objects from destruction in order to keep them or to offer them for resale, you may smoke them with Jinx Killer incense. Pendulum-dowse them afterwards to see if they feel "clean" to you then.

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Unread post by Elopez7806 » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:12 pm

I bought a mojo bag for my hubby. The mojo bag was for steady work. He doesn't carry it with him anymore and he doesn't put any energy towards it. I just get upset when I see it laying around. How can we dispose of it? Can we just throw it out or is there a special way to get rid of a mojo bag? Thanks

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Unread post by Miss Aida » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:31 pm

Hi, Elopez 7806,
I would respectfully thank the bag (and it's content....spirits of the herbs, etc) for everything it has done for your husband. Then, I would tell it that I want to bury it in my front yard.
It might still have drawing power. So, do so.
Don't ever "throw" a mojo hand away like it is garbage. You might want to take a look at the "Disposal" thread on this forum to get ideas in the future.
Also, it he doesn't have a job, I would buy the Steady Work kit that Lucky Mojo sells and it is inclusive of a mojo hand (in addition to other good workings). It is the entire spell kit.
I will be moving this topic to the appropriate thread
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Unread post by LoveisLove » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:55 pm

I am curious about the wax in the glass vigil candles as it burns.
Do I pour it out as it burns, wait till it's done burning for the day, or wait till the end of the candle (if it gets that far)
Also,
I know I should save the wax (it's for a reconciliation) and bury it in the yard. I am in a temporary living situation for the next few months (long story), do I bury it there anyway or wait till I acquire my own place?

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:18 pm

LoveIsLove,

You seem to be confusing glass-encased vigil candles with free standing candles.

1) Do not pour wax out of a vigil candle. It should naturally consume all the way down to the bottom and all the wax (or most of it) will be consumed).

2) The concept of "saved" wax comes from burning free standing candles that leave behind a puddle of melted and re-hardened wax.

3) Folks who burn free-standing candles bury the wax in the back yard where they live -- BUT you ain't burying any wax, because you are burning a VIGIL candle.

I recommend that before you make a lot of mistakes, trying to read about this stuff on the internet, you buy a copy of my simple, basic book, "The Art of Hoodoo Candle Magic. It explains every type of candle and how we work with them.

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Reconciliation Ritual for Estranged Friends 38
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Re: Disposal of Ritual Remains Questions and Answers

Unread post by Devi Spring » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:20 pm

For spells that require burying, as long as they are drawing spells (which since you're posting title refers to love spells I'll assume they are), you can generally bury them in potted plants. That way when you move, you can easily take them with you!

If you're stumped as to whether a potted plant is an ok option for a given spell, just contact a professional rootwork for their guidance.
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Unread post by sky4343 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:44 am

Hi, I did a spell that required me to bury the remains on the target's property which I easily have access to so thats not the problem, but i had a really hard time digging a hole deep enough the soil was so hard. I guess the hand held sovel I had just wasnt enough. Has anybody else had this problem? Is there another tool someone could reccomend that would make it easier to dig a hole? I chose the small shovel because it would not draw too much attention if people saw me walking with it.

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Unread post by Miss Aida » Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:19 pm

Good Afternoon, Sky4343,
When the ground is hard I will pour hot water over it first. I usually use those watering containers for plants and flowers that have the holes at the spout.
It will soften the upper layer of the ground. Dig a little bit until it's hard again, then pour some more hot water, etc. Do this until you attain the desired depth for burial
Hope this helps.
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Unread post by markx » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:29 am

I'm about to do a LM come to me candle and I really can't bury it at home as It's not my house and I can't do in a plant cause the glass is too big, are there any other options? what about under my bed?

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Unread post by Mama Rue » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:45 am

I have done love work while staying with others before, and I buried the remains in their front yard under a bush, very discretely. I had great success with that work, too.
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Unread post by brthrchristopher » Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:41 am

I believe you talking about a glass encased vigil candle. You don't need to bury the glass, or vigil candles. Just read the burn for signs, and dispose of it safely. You might recycle the glass if it is a very clean burn. The only thing you might have to bury would be the petition paper, if you wrote one out, and any other items that you might have used. You could also collect any left over items, wrap them in the petition to make a paper packet, and then put that into a red flannel bag to carry with you until the purpose of the candle is achieved.

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Unread post by Mama Rue » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:12 pm

Brthrchristopher is right about the glass, I do apologize for overlooking that pertinent part of your post. Chalk it up to "post haste". Anyway, good luck with your work!
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Unread post by Miss Aida » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:14 pm

Hello, Markx,
I agree with brthchristopher,
And I am a cheapskate: I will pour boiling water on the residual at the bottom and then dispose of whatever there is in Hoodoo Style.
Then, I clean the inside with either Florida water www.luckymojo.com/floridakanangawater.html
Or salt water..
Then, I put them away.
Later, I have something available when there's an emergency spell that I need to do. If I don't want the same label, I take that off and clean the outside the same way as I did the inside.
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Unread post by Luckbewithme876 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:00 am

If one were doing a coercive love spell, and not simply a spell to cause a cheating lover to return, would that be considered negative magic? If one personally considers it bad work, would that make it so that you should dispose of it at a tree or crossroads rather than one's front yard?
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Unread post by Miss Aida » Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:56 pm

Hello, Luckbewithme,876,
I personally don't consider that negative love work.
I've done coercive love spells to bring somebody to be and buried in my front yard. They came back and nothing bad happened to me!
If you feel any type of inkling to bathe yourself, here's the link to Hyssop www.herb-magic.com/hyssop.html
And here the link to the Psalm that you ay when bathing with hyssop http://readersandrootworkers.org/wiki/Psalms_51
(I lovingly call it: "The Hyssop Psalm"
Anyway, if you're still uncomfortable, dispose of it by alternative means (as you had mentioned)
Hope this helps.
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Unread post by branden » Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:08 am

I have a question what would be the end result of me holding on to ritual remains which I have no intention of ever working? I know this sounds silly but I hold on to some things. I have articles of clothes at various stages in my life. I can remember where I was when I wore so and so. I don't have that many clothes. Lol I feel like there's no energy going into the picture box and honeyjar surely nothing more will ever happen? I've stopped working the two long before my previous update post and I don't feel compel to do anymore work whatsoever.:)

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Unread post by aura » Sat Nov 16, 2013 5:15 am

Hi Branden,

You can keep them as mementos should you so desire and unworked they will hold the form and memory of your intention at that time.

That said, it may also indicate that there is part of that work/person/mind-set that you aren't letting go of which may or may not be limiting you to some extent: not saying that's the case, but am saying that you might want to consider that possibility as well.
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Unread post by Miss Phoenix » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:18 am

Hi branden, I want to second what aura has said. There really isn't any "harm" in not disposing of the ritual items that you don't want to work anymore, but it suggests that you are holding on in some way to this working. My personal beliefs around magic make me feel compelled to keep clean lines. Too many undisposed of items makes me feel magically messy. Once I am done with a working I feel it is important to dispose of those remains as soon as possible in order to let go of those energies and not keep me tied to the working in any way. In fact, every full moon I have a ritual process where I dispose of candle wax (or whatever else) from the months' work.

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Unread post by sky4343 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:47 am

I did the Compell a liar to confess spell and it says to leave the remains at a crossroads. Do i bury it there or just throw it there and walk away?

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Unread post by Miss Aida » Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:26 pm

Hello, sky4343,
Here are a couple of pages for you to read. The first one tells about disposal at a crossroad.
http://luckymojo.com/crossroads.html
The second page is what forum members have talked about
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After reading everything and you still have questions, don't hesitate to ask.
Wishing you the very best and hope this liar confesses everything.
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