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Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

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Re: 7-day candles & saftey

Unread postby aura » Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:31 am

Hi pugpaws,

this question has been discussed many times in the forum. You can read through the following posts for a lot of detailed information concerning the different aspects of your querry:

fire-safety-issues-with-candle-magic-t1352.html
candle-choices-shapes-&-forms,-colours,-wax-types,-safety-t6468.html (only part of the thread deals w/safety)
basic-question-about-candle-work-t3325.html (only part of the thread deals w/safety)

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Re: 7-day candles & saftey

Unread postby AmaSarah » Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:44 am

also, I'm not sure if it is discussed in the threads Aura pointed out above but never blow out your candles. It signifies the end of the spell. You will have to snuff them out if you choose to extinguish them while you are not home.
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Re: 7-day candles and safety

Unread postby Mama Micki » Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:52 am

I suggest that you use 6 inch candles dressed with the appropriate oil. They burn in about 6 hours. You can always burn 4 inch candles also; they burn in about 2 hours.

The jumbo candles burn in about 24-30 hours and are nice to use as a mini-vigil.
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Re: 7-day candles and safety

Unread postby pugpaws » Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:16 pm

Thank you everybody! I had done a search but must not have used the right key words. I'll check out the links you suggested. Thanks everyone! :)

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Dealing with soot from candles?

Unread postby giovanna_1530 » Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:06 pm

I know that this is a forum on Lucky Mojo Products and trust me, I have spent thousands on them. That being said, I burn a lot of candles in the process of using them and I've started to notice some soot build-up in my house over the years. Does anyone else have this issue and if so may I ask how you deal with it? I don't know anyone else who burns candles quite as regularly as I do, so no one I know seems to have this problem to the extent I do. Any answers are greatly appreciated!
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Re: Dealing with soot from candles?

Unread postby Joseph Magnuson » Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:11 pm

That soot is also referred to as candlesmoke. We will get a small buildup of it on our walls every year or so. We wash the walls and ceiling with a scrubbing ammonia spray and then give them a fresh coat of white paint.
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Re: Dealing with soot from candles?

Unread postby giovanna_1530 » Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:59 pm

Thank you for the answer-I've been scrubbing all day and it amazing where that soot can get! Anyway, I'm dealing with drywall and a textured plaster ceiling, neither of which handles contact with water well. I guess re-painting is the answer. Just curious how others dealt with this problem.
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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread postby Witchyone » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:18 pm

I have to agree with Mama Micki on this one. A burning candle inside of a stove does not sound like a good idea make, especially when talking about a gas stove. Besides, I figure that with such an enclosed and small space, the flame won't have much oxygen to continue the burn anyways. Plus, with the candle bring out of sight, its easy to forget. Also, the fact that someone's cat knocked it over does not necessarily have anything to to with the spellwork. Cats are curious and inquisitive by nature, and as a pet owner, the necessary precautions with consideration to the cat was not taken into consideration.
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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread postby Mama Micki » Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:12 am

If a cat can't leave candles alone, burn them in a room with the door shut. I have two cats. One gets into everything and one is content to just lay on my bed, so the first cat is not allowed in my bedroom, where he would destroy my altar if I let him.
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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread postby Joseph Magnuson » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:47 pm

I agree. Our altar room is now completely off limits to our two beloved cats. Too many candles burning, just asking to be knocked over. In the case of free burning candles (not vigils) too great a chance of burning whiskers and fur. Also, the cats love to get into bones, feathers, and other animal curios.
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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread postby catherineyronwode » Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:16 pm

Here is a brief story from our local newspaper:

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'House blessing' goes awry
Published: Thursday, February 23, 2012 at 1:30 p.m.
Last Modified: Thursday, February 23, 2012 at 1:30 p.m.

A woman on Kentucky Street [in Petaluma, California] who reported a fire said she was “blessing” her house with a burning container of rum and bath salts when the flames spread to a hanging bathroom towel.

By the time firefighters arrived, on Feb. 20, she had extinguished the towel.

The responding firefighters investigated the bathroom door and surrounding area and found no fire but some charring on the back of the door, according to a report of the incident.

Firefighters deemed the fire accidental.

— By Jamie Hansen, Argus-Courier Staff

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Don't let it happen to you! Be careful!
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My Money Altar Fiasco, (feel free to laugh!)

Unread postby jadejenova » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:23 pm

So, I came home from work one day and decided to make a money altar.

I take an old endtable cover with my daughter's stickers and print pictures of one hundred dollar bills and other bill denominations and tape it to the top of the table completely covering it.

I take my green laughing hotei statue and set it in the middle and place around his neck my four leaf clover necklace that has a real four leaf clover (i wear one and have never taken it off). Take my other small green fat little buddahs and put them on there too along with a rabbits foot, 3 lucky mojo beans, change (pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters), a small bowl of cinnamon and chamomile, 3 small green previously used (but not for this stuff) jar candles, one unused green jar candle, and my lotto ticket. I take three of the small green free standing candles from the fast luck spell kit, follow the directions with carving my name and oil, and set them around an incense charcoal with fast luck incense..... well....

They stayed lit for moment... but since I had the three candles so close to the incense the heat (I'm assuming made them soft) and they started to fall over, getting the wax everywhere, and they were still lit! I didnt want to have to blow them out, but I didnt want to burn my house down either so I snuffed two of them out because they kept falling over after I stood them back up over and over, and the one I kept lit put it in a slightly larger candle holder. My jar candles are still lit as I type, and the lone lucky mojo candle with my name carved is still burning away along with the incense. I left the other two unused candles on the alter..

Oh and I also attempted to smoke my ticket in the incense. I did a little but again, too close to candles and I ended up singeing it :p I wrote my desire of what I wanted and crossed my name 7 times on printer paper and smoked that in the incense too. Didnt know what to do with it next so i just folded toward me til I couldnt anymore and put it on the altar....

Oh gosh, i put too much incense, now my room is full of smoke....time to turn on the fans.. JEEZ.

What ya think, my altar should still be functioning for what I want it to do, yeah?
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Re: My Money Altar Fiasco, (feel free to laugh!)

Unread postby Miss Tammie Lee » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:55 pm

I'm going to go back to what a hair dresser once said to me, "Honey if it burns your hand, it burns your hair"!

Many people have fiascos that are not always shared ;). So, be careful, and it sounds like you are getting a great start, and Hooray that you are working a money alter!!!$$$!!!

Do not hold pictures, lotto tickets (especially ;))so close to the flame.. smoking them is enough.

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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread postby Mama Micki » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:59 pm

jadejenova:

Simplify your altar. It appears that you had too much stuff in too small a space. I'd suggest that you order a dressed vigil candle from Lucky Mojo; Money Drawing, Lucky 13, Fast Luck, Black Cat, or Lady Luck might be appropriate. If you do use freestanding candles, make sure they are in a metal candleholder or in a dish of sand, dirt, or salt, so they don't tip over.
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Moving my vigil candle for safety.

Unread postby jadejenova » Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:29 pm

I have ammonia'd, carved, herb'd, oil'd, prayed, petitioned and then lit my vigil candle and placed it on my money altar. I have the petiton paper oiled and folded underneath the candle. When I leave the house, to keep my candle burning, I place it in the tub, paper underneath it still. Do you think by constantly moving my candle back and forth from the altar to the bathtub will affect the spell? I also should mention when the candle is transitioning, I always hold the petition paper underneath it so i don't have to slide it under after setting the candle down bathtub or altar, along with walking slowly as not to disturb the wax or flame.
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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread postby Devi Spring » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:02 pm

No, I wouldn't worry about it jadejenova. :)
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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread postby Joseph Magnuson » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:08 am

jadejenova: I, too, do this as needed, and have found that it did not effect my results! Best of luck to you and your work.
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candle alternative

Unread postby toyhoarder » Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:36 pm

I am curious if there is an alternative to burning candles in rituals and spells. The reason I ask is because some spells ask that you leave candles burning for long periods of time and I am paranoid of fire damage. I have animals too. Is it possible to symbolically burn a candle. Just looking at alternati es that would work.
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Re: candle alternative

Unread postby MaryBee » Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:44 pm

Many of us (including me) have pets that we don't want to hurt with fire or candles. There are many ways you can work around that.

1. Put your glass vigils in a shallow pan that has about an inch of clean sand or salt in it. The sand absorbs the heat. Put the pan up on the counter where the animals can't get it. This is what I do to keep my cats away from the candles.

2. Burn a free standing (ie., not glass encased) light in segments over a period of days. This is a very traditional way to work in hoodoo. You light the candle and let it burn for about 15 minutes then snuff it out. Repeat daily for 7 days, and on the last day you let it burn all the way out, thus completing your spell.

3. You can set a candle in your shower stall or sink.

4. You can pay the folks at Missionary Independent Spiritual Church to set lights for you on their altar, and they'll send you a report on how it burned:
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But no, there is no such thing as symbolically burning a candle. You either light a candle or you don't.

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Re: candle alternative

Unread postby jwmcclin » Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:55 pm

...or you can burn 15, 30, one hour at a time while you are in the vicinity. This keeps heat on the situation and works in your favor as well. Alternatively, I would follow Mary Bee's item #4.
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Re: candle alternative

Unread postby aura » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:20 pm

Another alternative is to work with an oil lamp: LM even sells them fixed and ready to go. They can carry the heat for an intention and are considered a safer vehicle by many.
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Re: candle alternative

Unread postby Mama Micki » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:34 pm

You can burn 4 inch candles. They are usually done in less than two hours.
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Re: candle alternative

Unread postby MissMichaele » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:46 pm

Another alternative is to take the same materials you would use to load a candle -- personal concerns, herbs and so forth -- make a nice little packet of them, and bury them under a plant (yes, even in a flowerpot). This not only eliminates fire danger, but also sets you up for long-term, constant energy applied to your work, and conceals your work from prying eyes.


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Re: candle alternative

Unread postby Doctor Hob » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:59 pm

MissMichaele wrote:Another alternative is to take the same materials you would use to load a candle -- personal concerns, herbs and so forth -- make a nice little packet of them, and bury them under a plant (yes, even in a flowerpot). This not only eliminates fire danger, but also sets you up for long-term, constant energy applied to your work, and conceals your work from prying eyes.


Hope this helps,

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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread postby catherineyronwode » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:37 pm

The Dixie Flatline, read more about potted plant spells here:

http://readersandrootworkers.org/wiki/C ... ant_Spells
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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread postby Doctor Hob » Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:02 pm

Thank you very much for the reference, miss cat.
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How bad is this?

Unread postby AprilStar » Thu May 24, 2012 2:10 am

so I have my little ater going with a candle burning on a honey jar, a doll of my ex who i want to reconcile with/command and other tea lights and candles around it. I dosed of for a minute and then woke to a big flame (yes i know there are always safety warnings with these spells to prevent this), on the doll's head and the picture of my guy. The picture burned around the outline of his head but the doll was not lucky at all, it lost the head and one shoulder and part of one arm. I wouldnt say its a sign, i mean i was obviously careless leaning it so close to the candle on the honey jar, but i wonder if i hurt him in this accident. How should I cleanse? or just keep going with the picture or a new doll?
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Re: How bad is this?

Unread postby MaryBee » Thu May 24, 2012 3:07 am

The best thing is to get a reading on the situation; if you're not able to read yourself, get a 10 minute reading from one of the AIRR members:

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And be careful with fire! Trust me on this one :)

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Re: How bad is this?

Unread postby Joseph Magnuson » Fri May 25, 2012 10:16 am

If you baptized that doll baby as your ex, and were working with it as a direct proxy for him, and then the head and arm got burned with the fire from your honey jar work...I would say that is most definitely a sign of something.
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Re: How bad is this?

Unread postby starsinthesky7 » Fri May 25, 2012 7:02 pm

I agree with the previous posters. You want to get a reading because you want to be sure this is just a careless mistake.

Personally, I would get some divination done, and then perform cleaning/ healing on the doll after
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Glass Candlestick broke

Unread postby Veve » Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:38 pm

Hello,

I recently lit a 6 inch purple candle dressed with Power oil (while reciting the 23rd psalm) in a glass candlestick. By the time it had burnt down completely, part of the candlestick had broken, which I read is a bad sign when you are trying to increase something.

However, there was also no remaining wax, which I read is a good sign.

What should I make of this?

Perhaps I should just take it as a lesson in fire safety and not use glass holders from now on?
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Re: Burning a Power Candle- Conflicting Signs?

Unread postby Mama Micki » Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:28 pm

If you burn freestanding candles, use a metal candle holder, so it is safe to burn them all the way down.
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Re: Burning a Power Candle- Conflicting Signs?

Unread postby Veve » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:59 pm

I certainly shall from now on. Thank you!
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Re: Burning a Power Candle- Conflicting Signs?

Unread postby j82 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:09 am

It can be a sign or it can be a matter of physics, when a candle flame burns a candle holder making it so hot it shatters. Id re-burn in a candle holder made specific for this and see what happens.
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Lucky Mojo Vigil Light Questions and Answers (non MISC)

Unread postby hocuspocus » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:30 pm

Hi,

My question is about the Love Me vigil candle that Lucky Mojo sells.

I purchased one several weeks ago and lit it tonight. The herbs on the candle caught on fire soon after I lit the wick, resulting in several flames on the candle surface. I pushed the herbs away from the wick and the flames extinguished, only the candle wick is burning. But as a result there are several burnt herbs in the wax now.

Because I do not know what are the herbs used in the Love me candle, I would like to ask if the herbs catching fire is normal in the context of the herbs used in the Love Me vigil candle?

Also, I was not going to read more into the herbs catching fire almost within 2 minutes of lighting the candle, because flame+dry herbs = more flames...
would anyone agree? :?:

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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread postby Humming_Bird » Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:23 pm

I want to ask, how safe are vigil glass encased candles? Like, how well does the glass do with heat? I'm asking because I'm burning a Road Opener and it's burning VERY well, an inch to an inch and a half tall flame, even after I trimmed the wick down to almost nothing. When I go to school, I usually put my candles in a metal pot over a metal cookie pan, and either fill the pot with water or sand. I've never had a problem. However, this candle is kinda worrying me, because I've never had such a lively flame before. I can't put it in the bathtub or oven because I'm forced to do my spellwork in secret.
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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread postby Mama Micki » Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:30 am

Vigil candles are made to burn continuously, and as long as it is not disturbed, it should be fine, especially since you are putting it in a container of water or sand.
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Re: Lucky Mojo Vigil Light Questions and Answers (non MISC)

Unread postby PrincessDrRe » Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:55 pm

Should I leave the candles steadily lit? Also - how many should I "work" at one time?
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Re: Love Me Vigil Candle, herbs on fire

Unread postby Apollo Dark » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:27 am

hocuspocus wrote:Hi,

My question is about the Love Me vigil candle that Lucky Mojo sells.

I purchased one several weeks ago and lit it tonight. The herbs on the candle caught on fire soon after I lit the wick, resulting in several flames on the candle surface. I pushed the herbs away from the wick and the flames extinguished, only the candle wick is burning. But as a result there are several burnt herbs in the wax now.

Because I do not know what are the herbs used in the Love me candle, I would like to ask if the herbs catching fire is normal in the context of the herbs used in the Love Me vigil candle?

Also, I was not going to read more into the herbs catching fire almost within 2 minutes of lighting the candle, because flame+dry herbs = more flames...
would anyone agree? :?:

Thanks!


Hello hocuspocus,

This is actually very common. Whenever I light a Vigil Candle, I always watch it for a few minutes. Having something to move the herbs is a must. I usually use a nail.

Also, try not to analyze the Candle as it Burns. This will just drive you crazy. In my opinion, the best approach with Vigil Candles is to Light them, and let them be until they are done.

Always be mindful of fire safety! Make sure they are in a safe place. Never leave a Candle unattended on the Altar. It may seem that it is a good thing to have them on the altar for the purpose of the spell, but there are a lot of cases of Altars going up in flames from candles left to burn on them. Bath Tubs and Fire Places are the best for leaving Candles to burn.

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Re: Lucky Mojo Vigil Light Questions and Answers (non MISC)

Unread postby Apollo Dark » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:31 am

PrincessDrRe wrote:Should I leave the candles steadily lit? Also - how many should I "work" at one time?


As I stated in my previous post. It is best to Light a Vigil Candle and let it be until it goes out on its own, but be mindful of Fire Safety!

As far as, "How many at one time" that is up to you, as the worker. You don't want to be going in two directions at once, though.

For instance, I would not do Break-Up at the same time as Return to Me. Too many wires to cross. For the sake of the potency of the Magick, focus on one Goal at a time. Make the intention clear, and keep faith.

The power is in your belief, and you want to have that focused and best as possible.

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Re: Lucky Mojo Vigil Light Questions and Answers (non MISC)

Unread postby catherineyronwode » Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:03 pm

A second way to approach the topic that Apollo Dark mentioned is to burn candles for both sides of a question (e.g. break up versus return of a lover) on two separate altars. We do this all the time at Missionary Independent Spiritual Church.

A third option is to burn the negative candles or candles of removal as the moon wanes and the positive candles or candles of increase as the moon waxes.

A fourth option is to burn both on the same altar that faces South, with the positive candles at the East and the negative candles at the West.

All of these methods -- in addition to Apollo's "burn one at a time advice" are traditional and favoured methods.

The point is, your work should have some thought behind it, some methodology, and it is up to you to plan your layout.

See the thread on altars in this forum for much, much more information.
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Fire Hazard

Unread postby Breetastic » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:20 pm

I was burning a red candle for a love spell, dressed with Come to Me oil. I put it in a plastic candle holder because I couldn't find a traditional one around the house. The candle burned EXTREMELY fast, faster than I could notice, and started to melt into the plastic holder, causing a little fire. I put it out, but the candlewax melted into the plastic and all... Nonetheless, I buried everything in my front yard.

Will this affect the spell at all? The plastic being melted into the wax? =/ I'm worried about this. Should I redo the spell?
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Re: Willl this affect the candlework?

Unread postby Mama Micki » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:09 pm

Do it over. Use a metal candle holder; I've never seen a plastic one. You're lucky you didn't burn your house down.
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Re: Willl this affect the candlework?

Unread postby Apollo Dark » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:26 pm

Mama Micki wrote:Do it over. Use a metal candle holder; I've never seen a plastic one. You're lucky you didn't burn your house down.


I concur. You are very lucky.

Do it again, and this time make sure it is FIRE SAFE!
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Re: Willl this affect the candlework?

Unread postby MissMichaele » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:48 pm

Whenever I can't find a candle holder, I light a match under the base of the candle and melt a little wax off it onto a saucer; then jam it into the melted wax.

You can also buy little boxes or jars of "tacky wax" at craft stores, just for sticking candles into holders that aren't quite the right size.

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Candle Alternative?

Unread postby SarahM » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:44 pm

Hello

I live in an apartment where I am not allowed to light any candles/open fires. Is there an alternative to lighting a candle? Could I maybe use an electric candle or batterty operated candle, put some paint on it to have different colors?
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Re: Candle Alternative?

Unread postby catherineyronwode » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:02 pm

SarahM,

This is so sad. You think hoodoo is all about candles... you can't light a candle so you think you can do magic by painting an electric candle some colour.

No, sweetheart, that's not what this is about at all.

First off, candle burning as a form of magic is one of the later developments in hoodoo. It came after incense, after bathing and floorwashing, after wearing scented perfumes and oils, after the carrying of roots and minerals, and the making of packets and bundles.

Start by reading about the history of hoodoo. It is not all about candles. It is all about African American folk-magic.

Start here:

http://luckymojo.com/hoodoohistory.html

Whenever you see a link in that article that is new to you, click it, read the descriptive page, and come back to the article. That should get you started, okay?

Good luck!
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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread postby BlakPrincessUK » Wed May 14, 2014 4:44 pm

Ok

I am ready to come clean regarding my own stupidity and candle burning. I read here on the forum that to melt some of the wax on a honey jar you can pour a little Florida water and light it so that the wax will melt. Well i did just that in the bathroom. But to be super safe I placed the honey jar inside a tin foil pan. I usually use these pans to burn incense, candles etc. There was residue at the bottom of the pan but I was too lazy to clean it , thinking it would not be an issue and after all I was CLEANING up not actually doing work !!

Well (deep breath)..whatever it was , as soon as the flames hit it , it produced a huge ferocious flame !!I was pertrified!! I poured a little water to try and douse it, Thank God it was only a small amount because it was as if I added oil to the fire !! Now the pan fire was HUGE!! with flames licking the mirror and sink!!. I was afraid to touch or move the pan. in my panic, there was some clarity in that I got more foil pans and layered them over the original pan to SMOTHER the fire out. It took a while but it eventually calmed down. In the meantime the honey jar is still in the pan and the honey began to BOIL and BUBBLE over and out of the jar !!

ONE HUGE MESS!! It took a good hour before everything was extinguished. The Honey jar was completely black with black honey inside.

On one hand I know its not a good sign and on the other I was not actively working the honey jar. So I dispose of everything in the trash and started a new honey jar.

Sooo...the moral of the story is .....do not be careless, reckless and lazy like me, I could have literally caused the whole apartment to burn down.

A word to the wise.
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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread postby Shantilly Lace » Wed May 14, 2014 7:40 pm

Glad to hear you're ok.
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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread postby MissMichaele » Thu May 15, 2014 5:27 pm

BlakPrincessUK, thank you for sharing the life lesson! That shows courage.

Folks, remember that Florida Water is an alcohol-based perfume -- that means FLAMMABLE.

Also, alcohol + oil = Molotov cocktail -- a homemade bomb!

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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread postby BlakPrincessUK » Thu May 15, 2014 5:58 pm

Thanks Shantilly and MissMichaele.

I felt it was important to sometimes show that we goof up but some mistakes can be VERY expensive !!
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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread postby Joseph Magnuson » Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:58 pm

BlakPrincessUK: Wow! I am glad you're okay! Remember: a quick pass with a lighter or match will be enough to get the bottom of a candle sticky/melted enough to stick to the top of a honey jar. Just make sure you firmly hold it in place afterwards for 10-20 seconds while the wax cools into place. Good luck to you in the future!
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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread postby BlakPrincessUK » Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:02 pm

Shantilly Lace wrote:Glad to hear you're ok.



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