Lucky Mojo Forum

[starsinthesky7]

I mean you could pretty much use these personal concerns in anything from a mojo bag, sweet jar, candle work such as a skull candle, a doll, etc. I would start off with the more basic items such as the panties and put that in a sweet jar. In addition, you didnt say what kind of love work you are doing. The towel should last you for a while considering you only need to cut off a piece of the towel.

[jwmcclin]

I agree with starsnthesky, the hairs can be used in a mojo, bottle spell etc etc read more about body fluids and how they are used here http://www.luckymojo.com/bodyfluids.html

[Sebastien]

Hey all,

Forgive me if this was ever askd before but, after doing some searches, I couldn't find anything covering this. Do personal concerns have a built in expiry date? I found that for bath water ideally you would like to use those asap, and sexual fluids/menses/urine and other bodily fluids you would need to freeze them to preserve them. But, when it comes to hair, soiled clothing, nail parrings and the like do they go "bad"?

I ask because i've taken the habit as of late of collecting random hair samples and the like whenever I can for times when I might end up having need of them as opposed to scrambling last minute to get a hair from someone or something along those lines that might delay spell work.

Another question when it comes to personal concerns, especially hair, if I have a hair from someone and say its about a foot and a half long and I need to make it last so to speak, due to distance or the like, is it permissible to cut a piece of it off say an inch or so and save the rest for another time/works?

Thank you for all your help,
Sebastien

[Miss_Liz]

I think really it's a matter of if it goes rancid or not. Hair and clippings and "dry" things I'd think are good for a long time if not indefinitely. "Wet" things like semen can be dried and don't have to be frozen. Bathwater is beyond me. If I'm wrong please correct me.

[Miss Tammie Lee]

I think this is a valid question. I have other personal concerns, although not of a body fluid nature per say... I am curious as well.
Thanks for posting.

[Forest_Roots]

I have been trying to get used to hoodoo's terminology, I have seen "put personal concerns in"
but I'm not sure what this is asking for. written concerns, focused on, thought about, etc.

(sorry if this is the wrong place for this question it seemed like the only place it would fit)

thanks for all your replies

[thelightfantastic]

Personal concerns are anything from the person you're working on (ie hair, blood, semen, vaginal fluid, etc.). The more intimate the personal concerns, the better the link to the person you have.

[AmaSarah]

check out this page: http://www.luckymojo.com/bodyfluids.html

here is a cut and paste from the page to help you understand the hierarchy in strength of personal concerns:

I am often asked what a person can use for this type of rootwork if bodily fluids cannot be gotten. In descending order of strength, according to hoodoo folk magic, here is a list of substitute magical links:

Genital fluids: menstrual blood, semen, vaginal fluid
Other biological concerns: urine, feces, sweat, blood, spit
Hair: pubic, head, armpit, beard
Person's unwashed clothing: underwear, socks, handkerchief
Person's foot track lifted from the dirt
"Shed" body items: nail clippings, baby teeth
Person's bath water, wash water, drinking water
Person's handwriting on paper
Something Person owned or wore
Something Person touched, e.g. butt from smoked cigarette
Photo of Person
Drawing or silhouette of Person
Person's business card
Person's full name written on paper 9 times

[Cookie]

Can semen still be used if it was collected on something like kleenex? I did a forum search, but most of them refer to saving it in a condom. Couldn't some of the tissue be used in say, a honey jar, mojo bag, poppet, etc?

[Devi Spring]

Yes you can use semen if it's on a tissue or cloth.

[movingmountains]

Hi all!

So i work with my ex GF... Im just wondering if anyone can advise on how best to use my urine, semen or nail filings etc on her? Sorry if that disgusts!

Can i just put it in a coffee? Or lunch? Can i use them all together in the one drink or meal?

Do i need to pray over it? Or is it more symbolic or something?

Thanking you!

[butchcomer]

What are your goals?
Perhaps read up on the topic here:http://www.luckymojo.com/bodyfluids.html

[movingmountains]

to make her think of me or bind her to me etc.. anything positive towards those goals.

[catherineyronwode]

Personal concerns that are properly dried or otherwise preserved do not have an "expiry date."

[cabriellenil]

For me expiry date would be when I'm no longer interested in the target

But otherwise, no, they don't expire if preserved properly. And yes you can cut a bit of that hair and use it now and save the rest for later.

[brujaha]

Hi all,

It has been stated in this forum that without names, the work might be weaker or ineffective. But, I have also read about successful freezer spells with general references, like "all my romantic rivals." Here's the question: If I have been working spells on a person, whose name I don't have, and I am getting symbols with clear meanings related to her (as determined by my airr reader), does this mean I am reaching the intended target? To clarify a bit, I write a description of her (where she lives, age, her nationality) on the candle, and I have a load of intention behind it. What do you think?

brujaha

[Devi Spring]

If you're receiving signs and a reading has confirmed it for you, then yes.

[brujaha]

Yay! Thank you Devi! This brings me some relief while I figure out how to manipulate things so that I can find out her name.

brujaha

[ConjureMan Ali]

Please don't mistake us by saying that without names you will absolutely fail. We are saying that generally the best way to create a link is first by personal concerns followed up by a name paper/ photo. If you are able to link and target the spell by a phrase like "my enemies" or something similar than more power to you.

[brujaha]

Thank you for clearing that up, Conjure Man. I must say that over the years you have imparted such wisdom in your responses to folks. In fact, there is one quote of yours that I have written in my little journal, because it gives me hope when my work is slow in coming to fruition. I don't remember the thread I found it in, but I am re-writing it here for others to read:

". . . Honey jars take a bit of time to work, but remember that sometimes things need to get worse before they can get better. Sometimes a couple needs to get closer together before you will be able to cause a falling out, sometimes someone needs to be rude and cold before ice breaks and they become loving. . . " [wed., nov. 9th, 2009] - Conjure Man

You always convey such warmth and sincerity in your responses. . . YOU ROCK!!!

brujaha

[theusurper]

Can i use a towel that he dried his private parts as personal concern?

[starsinthesky7]

Yes...if he was the only one that dried himself on it yes, you can use it. You do not have to use the entire towel, I would just use piece of the towel.

[theusurper]

thank you, you always so helpful. thank you

[starrykitten]

The object of my affection just changed his clothes at my house and left a shirt here. I keep thinking there must be something I can do to it to help attract him to me. Does anyone have ideas?

[beautiful]

Wow I really want to find out too.

[ConjureMan Ali]

First, if he's left any socks or any other articles like underwear keep hold of them. For his shirt, grab a few strings from the armpit region so you can use them as a person concern. Make sure you do this before washing it so you are taking the threads out after its been in direct contact with him and his sweat.

Then toss his shirt in the wash and add some love bath crystals to the wash and give it back to him. If you want to make him your lover add in Come to Me and Love Me crystals.

Good luck.

[starsinthesky7]

I would actually keep the item and would NOT wash it. That is a big personal item that can last you for quite sometime. Or I would do as conjure man said with the thread if he asks for it back. But if he does not ask for it back then keep it in a safe place, unwashed.

[starrykitten]

Wow, those are some quick replies! Thanks so much for your help. He probably does not even remember tossing his shirt on the entrance floor, so maybe he wouldn't notice if it went missing. (Thankfully, he wears the same general outfit every day, so one missing shirt wouldn't stand out.) I should mention too that he was changing his clothes here because he's been crashing in my extra room, so I have plenty more opportunities to get stuff if I want to. It's just a matter of knowing what to do with it.

[catherineyronwode]

Hold on here, folks. Let's understand a few things.

1) STOP! DO NOT WASH THE SHIRT until you get to Step #7 of this post!

2) Enchanting means literally to sing or chant a spoken or sung spell over something; it is a European folk magic tradition. In English folk magic, the meter of such chants is fairly fixed, but the words vary with the purpose of the enchantment. The usual form is a rhymed couplet, with a meter is like:

da DA da DA da DA da DA
da DA da DA da DA da DA

Here are two different English enchantments for a tea cup to be used in tasseography:

Would'st thou thy future wish to see?
Perhaps this cup will show it thee!

Many curious things i see
While telling fortunes in your tea!

Here is a typical enchantment of a shirt for magical purposes (but keep reading, and i'll show you a better way to work with the shirt):

Whenever John this shirt shall wear
His arms will ache to hold me near

This rhythmic meter is so popularly understood as the proper meter of enchantment among English-speaking people, that even in comic books it is used to indicate magical power. Alfred Bester wrote this enchantment for DC's "Green Lantern" comics in 1943; it is the enchantment of an emerald ring by the power of a cosmic battery disguised in the form of an old railroad lantern and it is known as The Green Lantern Oath:

In brightest day, in blackest night,
no evil shall escape my sight!
Let those who worship evil's might,
beware my power...Green Lantern's light!"

There are hundreds of rhymed spells of enchantment used by the mystic magician Dr. Strange in the Marvel Comics series "Strange Tales" and "Dr. Strange." This one is by Roy Thomas, and appeared in the late 1960s:

By the wisdom of Oshtur -- by the curse of Watoomb --
let the forces which threaten now know only doom!

And here's one by Roger Stern, also in "Dr. Strange" comics, this time from the 1970s:

Bird of evil -- hear my call!
By Balthakk's Bolts shall now you fall!

For many more rhymed spells of enchantment in "Strange Tales" and "Dr. Strange" comics, see my web site "The Lesser Book of the Vishanti," which is online here:

http://luckymojo.com/vishanti.html

2) Okay, so that was all about "enchantments." Now, let's remember that this is a site for the discussion of conjure, hoodoo, and rootwork, which is African American folk magic, not English folk magic. In hoodoo we do not use enchantments of this sort, but we do work heavily with personal concerns of the body. The soiled, worn, and dirty shirt is such a personal concern. So, for a background on personal concerns, i want you to read the multi-page section on personal concerns in my book "Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic." If you do not have the book, please order it and get walking on this path. Without it, you will waste our time in the forum by asking questions that have been answered there. The book is only $14.95 and it will save you a lot of time thinking "What shall i do?" Order the book at

http://luckymojo.com/mojocatbooks.html

It is:

Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic, paperback by Catherine Yronwode
Originally published in 2002.
From the proprietor of the Lucky Mojo Curio Company comes the most thorough, complete, and authentic book on how roots and herbs are used in traditional African-American folk magic. 500 herbs, roots, minerals, and zoological curios are listed, along with their scientific names, so you will know exactly what to harvest or buy from an herb dealer. Included are an amazing 750 spells, formulas, mojo hand combinations, and candle rites, all given in workable, practical detail. Medical usages for many of the herbs, supplementary botanical notes, a series of cross-indexes listing herbs by the magical conditions for which they are recommended, plus 50 beautiful black and white illustrations of herbs and vintage herb packaging round out this informative reference volume. There is no other herb encyclopedia like this one. This is the book to get if you are working traditional conjure and herb magic. If you order from Lucky Mojo, cat will inscribe your copy to you. 224 pages, trade paperback.
$14.95
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It is also available in cloth-bound hardcover:

$39.95
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4) If you are not interested in studying hoodoo and just want a quick peek into the use of personal concerns, read this page on "Body Fluids" from my free online book "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice." It does not duplicate the more extensive material on "Personal Concerns" in "Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic," but it will give you a glimpse into why NOT to wash the shirt. The URL is

http://luckymojo.com/bodyfluids.html

This page deals with Menstrual Blood, Semen, and Urine -- but the shirt contains Sweat, which is also a vital body fluid and should be preserved, NOT washed out of the shirt!

5) If you can keep the shirt, here's what to do:

Decide whether you want to make a doll-baby on the man.

A) If you do want to make a doll, use the shirt-cloth (especially the sweaty underarm potions) to craft the doll. Stuff it with herbs and incense powders of love, control, and passion. For a list of such herbs and incense powders, buy and read "Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic" or see my free web page "Hoodoo at a Glance," online here:

http:luckymojo.com/hoodooataglance.html

Note that i said "incense powders" and not "sachet powders." If you are familiar with our products, you will understand why.

After making, baptizing, and working with the doll by loving it up all over your body, wrap it tightly in your underpants and keep it hidden. Take it out and work with it in a sexual manner whenever you feel inclined to draw him closer.

B) If you do not wish to make a doll, you may use a very old spell which simply consists of tying the shirt into a knot and burying it in your back yard so he will come to your place and not leave. This spell is usually done with a man's underpants, but i have seen it done with an undershirt or with socks as well, and it works well.

6) If you cannot keep the shirt, but will be expected to return it, you should carefully pull some threads from it, preferably from under the armpit area. If it is a knit shirt, work neatly lest it unravel. You don't need a lot, but you need something.

A) You can use the threads as part of the stuffing of a flannel cloth doll, along with suitable herbs.

B) You can put the threads in a nation sack or mojo hand made for sexual attraction, fidelity, and control over the man. Order

THE NATION SACK
For women only we fashion a traditional Memphis style filled with the particular concerns women want in this type of article. The red flannel bag contains Queen Elizabeth Root, Lodestone, Magnetic Sand, Dragon's Blood, Licorice Root, Calamus Root, a Silver Dime, a Heart charm, and a length of white cotton string for you to "personalize" according to the instructions, plus a vial of Follow Me Boy Dressing Oil.
$20.00
MH1-COM-NATI

This also comes in a Triple Strength version with rarer and more costly ingredients
$30.00
MH3-COM-NATI

C) After you have taken the threads from the shirt, get one of your own hairs (a pubic hair is best, but a head-hair will do), thread it on a needle, and work it into the lower-edge hem of the shirt (closest to his genitals when he will wear the shirt). You will need to pray over this work as you do it. This procedure is described more fully in my book "Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic" in the section on "Personal Concerns."

D) After you have threaded the hair into the hem of the shirt, rub it between your legs three times while praying for your desired outcome; see "Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic" in the section on "Personal Concerns." The shirt is then ready to return to him.

7) The procedure that ConjureMan described -- washing the shirt in water that contains some dissolved bath crystals for love -- is a valid way of working, but ONLY after following steps 1 through 6 above. It is usually employed in cases where you regularly do a man's laundry.

If the two of you live together, for instance, washing his clothes with a sprinkling of love bath crystals in the rinse water should become as second nature to you.

But in YOUR case, getting this shirt was a one-time or first-time event, and it should not and cannot be treated as something routine, like dressing his laundry.

Good luck!

[jwmcclin]

Well done cat as always. I would follow starsnthesky7...keep the shirt and also ConjureMan, pull the threads from the airpit area. You can use the shirt later...