Nation Sack Questions and Answers

jasmine218 · Unread post by **jasmine218** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:44 pm

I purchased the nation sack and got all my items together last night. I followed the directions perfectly except for the fact that I put the John the Conquerer root on my dime and the Queen Elizabeth root on his. I think that is what I put on his dime. Everything is all mixed together now anyway. The question is did I totally screw this up and do I have to purchase another Nation Sack or do I just need to purchase the two roots mentioned above? I was working by candlelight...next time I will be more careful.

Any input would be great. I would hate to say that I did all that for nothing but if I did then I will just have to purchase another one.

Thanks.

J

Literarylioness · Unread post by **Literarylioness** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:19 am

I think you will be all right. Mistakes happen. See how the mojo sack works and if it is not doing what it is suppose to, do it over again.

Mary

catherineyronwode · Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:29 am

jasmine218,

Work by both your heart and your mind -- sometimes little mental mistakes like this happen, although your heart is in the right place.

Each person treats errors differently. You do not need to start over, but just keep working it.

I've written quite a lot about such errors. Others have told their tales as well. You might enjoy reading these true-life experiences. They are in a compilation of old Usenet posts called "Practical Tips" and you will find THREE entries on the subject under the headings "Errors in Ritual I," "Errors in Ritual II," and "Errors in Ritual III" on this page:

http://www.luckymojo.com/spells/practicaltips.html

Read 'em and laugh!

For more information on the Nation Sack, sometimes called a Nature Sack, see this web page from "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice":

http://luckymojo.com/nationsack.html

chatocamacho · Unread post by **chatocamacho** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:54 pm

Hi, I just got a nation sack mojo bag from your shop and in the instructions it says to get 2 dimes from a coin shop for my partner and me.

I was wondering why we need to get them from a coin shop? Can we just use our own coins?

I had another question, would you guess recommend me to start working the bag today or to wait until the 28th for the new moon?

Mohammed · Unread post by **Mohammed** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:16 pm

I guess this is the appropriate place for this question.
I am making my own nation sack, but I don't see exacly how big I should make it. Anyone have any thoughts on this? I am considering to hand stitch it, so that it is more personal, but I'm thinking it doesn't really matter. Also, as a male, where should I wear it?

Now, I have a wallet size photo of my 'target'. I intend to include within the bag. I have also gone to great lengths to obtain some of the target's hair clippings, just how much should go into the bag, and is it ok to add with the photo? My guess is that the more items that represent the desired person makes it more successful?

Thank you

J Simulcik · Unread post by **J Simulcik** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:36 pm

Nation sacks are only carried by women. Miss Cat's page on them is here: http://www.luckymojo.com/nationsack.html

Most men's mojos that are similar in effect to the nation sack include John the Conqueror root: http://www.luckymojo.com/johntheconqueror.html

You only need a few hairs, and you can put a photo in depending on the intent of the mojo, i.e. if you want to target only that individual. More personal effects do not increase the effectiveness of the mojo or work in the hoodoo tradition.

Hope that helps.

Lukianos · Unread post by **Lukianos** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:02 am

Hi Mohammed,

Nation sacks, as Simulcik notes, are a type of mojo hand specific to women that are comparable in size to other mojo hands--small bags ~ 2.5 x 4 inches in size. Men do carry mojo bags (though not nation sacks), and usually keep them in a pocket or similarly discrete place where they will not be seen or touched by others.

Re: personal concerns, it is not the number of 'representations', but rather the nature of the concerns themselves that determine their relative strength--a sample of the target's handwriting on paper is better than a photo, but hair is much better than either. And blood or sexual fluids are best of all. This hierarchical logic is as summarized at the bottom of this page:
http://www.luckymojo.com/bodyfluids.html

Good Luck!

theusurper · Unread post by **theusurper** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:42 am

oh! lol, this is something "nasty" but i need to know if this could be a good personal effects, he blowed his nose in the tisue and i got it and saved for any reason. can i used if i need for any spell?

jazzie · Unread post by **jazzie** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:47 pm

In terms of nation sacks.

If you don't want to tie the man's nature using the string (Cat's instruction). What are other alternative ways to add the man's semen?

And also, why is it wrong to add combined sexual fluids to a nation sack?
That is, the instruction mentions being wary of having the woman's sexual fluid imingled with the man's.....otherwise, she could fall prey to her own trick.

Thanks.

Turnsteel · Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:45 pm

jazzie wrote:If you don't want to tie the man's nature using the string (Cat's instruction). What are other alternative ways to add the man's semen?

Use the string. Its not the act of getting his semen on the string that ties his nature but the act of tieing knots into the string as you call him into it that does it.

jazzie wrote:And also, why is it wrong to add combined sexual fluids to a nation sack?
That is, the instruction mentions being wary of having the woman's sexual fluid imingled with the man's.....otherwise, she could fall prey to her own trick.

Well you said it yourself you might trick yourself up. In general when your getting a sexual fluid from someone to use in a spell you don't want any of yourself in it.

jazzie · Unread post by **jazzie** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:20 am

Thanks HailDiscordia.....

But, Cat's instructions include anointing certain things with your menstrual blood...so, won't you have a blend of sexual fluids then?
The nation sack would have both the menstrual blood and also, the semen-covered string.
Please clarify, thanks.

carolina_dean · Unread post by **carolina_dean** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:18 pm

Jazzie,

In creating a nation sack, you are being asked to anoint certain items (roots, dimes, candles) with your menstrual blood (or sexual fluids) because these bodily fluids are believed to capture a man's sexual interest and attention. A woman's menstrual blood has chemicals in it, called pheromones, which attract males. Your instruction likely direct you to anoint the same items with some type of condition oil as well, however your menstrual blood is the ultimate Love Me Oil or Follow Me Boy Oil, etc...

The act of anointing the roots and dimes with your menstrual blood serves two purposes 1) To scent your mojo bag with your pheromones and 2) To mark your territory and establish dominance in the relationship. Many female magical practitioners often recommend that you feed a man your menstrual blood to make him faithful. By anointing a High John Root with your menstrual blood, you are symbolically feeding your menstrual blood to the man.

The semen-anointed string tied in knot(s) is the symbolic act which ties up the man's nature and will make him always want to be yours. The fact that you were able to 'harvest' the man's semen presupposes that he achieved orgasm and therefore enjoyed the act. The fact that when engaging in intercourse for the purpose of obtaining his semen to anoint the string you have been directed NOT to have an orgasm yourself is to capture his nature and not your own.

When you prepare this mojo bag, you are doing so with intent. Your intent is to tie up this man's nature, make him faithful and loving to you, and prevent him from being able to have relations with any other person than yourself. When you place these items in the mojo bag your intention and the symbolism of what I explained above should be clear in your mind. There may be some intermingling of fluids depending on the amount of time which has passed between the time you fix up the mojo bag and the time you add the semen-anointed string, but more than likely the blood will have dried before you add the string.

I hope this helps.

Carolina Dean
56 (G)

PS: Haildiscordia, as a gay man myself I have made use of a gay version of a nation sack, and while it wasn't traditional it still worked for me.

catherineyronwode · Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:58 pm

Thanks, Dean, for explaining that so well!

Like you said -- the menstrual blood on the coins is for the woman's power over the man; in this case, financial power. The semen on the string is knotted in order for the man's nature to be captured, and the reason for the woman to not have an orgasm at the time she collects the semen is because she wants to have a clear head, keep her magical intent in mind, and not get captured herself.

Also, i know several gay men who have made and used a Nation Sack with good results. This form of mojo hand originated as a woman's trick around Memphis, Tennessee, but gay men all around the country certainly have picked up on it by now!

By the way, if a man wanted to make this sort of a trick bag on a woman, he would have to reverse everything -- he would put his semen on the coins and anoint the string with her sexual fluids from a union while she was on her period *and* he did not have an orgasm but she did -- combining her period blood with her fluids of arousal and thus tying two of her powers (her fascination power and her nature) in the same knots.

One reason this reversal may not be popular with men, though, is that few African American men will have sex with a woman on her period, so powerful is the bewitching power of her menstrual blood. Most especially, they may refuse oral sex on her at that time -- or at any time, for fear of being caught by her if she were to lie and say she was not on her period when she actually was, because once they tasted her menses, they would be tied to her just as sure as if she fed them that stuff in coffee, tea, or spaghetti sauce. And that, in a nutshell, may be why the Nation Sack is seldom used by men -- it's too risky for men to prepare it!

Hail Discordia, the structural logic behind capturing the nature and other traditional forms of conjure is explained in my course -- and once you begin to understand the structural logic, then the actions performed in this type of spell-casting, which might otherwise seem contradictory or arbitrary, all fall into place, and you cease to see a "cook book" style recipe or set of instructions, and are able to view the spell as a sophisticated example of symbolic magic, "as above, so below."

Chatocamacho, The reason to buy coins from a coin shop is simply to get coins from the birth years of you and your lover. Most coins only stay in circulation a few years. After that, you have to ask for them by date at a coin shop.

Some folks don't use birth-year coins, but instead use a coin the man gave them from his own hand for him, plus a lucky coin they found for themselves.

If you would rather use modern coins, then go right ahead.

The choice is yours.

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jazzie · Unread post by **jazzie** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:48 pm

Thank you very much to all of you.
I understand things in a clearer manner now.

I also want to take your course Cat.

justshim · Unread post by **justshim** » Thu May 14, 2009 2:40 pm

Can you use the nation sack for a married man? How long before you see results?

catherineyronwode · Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu May 14, 2009 3:47 pm

You generally use the nation sack on a man who is YOURS, whether you are married to him or not. You need some money he gave you, his semen, his hair, and so forth -- so it is not used on a man with whom you are not already real close.

As for a time-frame, that is not the way magic works. You watch for signs, see if there's movement, and then get your completion. There is no "delayed" effect thing, like, "it'll work after six months" or such. If the signs are good soon after you start, you keep running with it. Then it works for you as you work with it.

Also, you must understand that not every spell works every time or for every person. For instance, if you are the "outside woman" and his wife is working to hold him, it is unlikely that a Nation Sack would break them up, although it certainly should make him want to continue seeing you.

butterfly2 · Unread post by **butterfly2** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:28 pm

hello lm family. i was wondering if someone is getting the nations sack would it be necessary or more effective to also use the blue penis candle spell? also, i was reading some info on the lm site regarding the blue penis candle spell which requires a string. i was also told that a string comes with the nation sack hand. im assuming the string is needed to tie the 9 knots to hoodoo the man's nature/ but my question is if i have a cloth with my man's semen on it already (though it is dried) could this be used or would i have to do the 9 knot nature spell?

thanks,
butterfly

butterfly2 · Unread post by **butterfly2** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:13 pm

hi all. this was very interesting to read & very helpful. but i do have a question. my period is very irregular. it comes perhaps 3 times a year & when it does, i never know which momth or day its coming. i have been to the gynecologist who has ran test &b said that everythign was normal with me. is there anything i can take or get soemthing otc to invoke my period so i can use the blood wuth the nations sack? also, this may be a crazy question, but is coming the same as an orgasm? i see its recommended that the woman not have an orgasm? which makes sense. i have a naturally high sex drive for my man. what can i do to not have an orgasm so i wont be hoodooed?

thanks,
butterfly

catherineyronwode · Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:05 pm

1) You do not need to work both spells. Either one is suffficient if you are a strong, dedicated practritioner and God favours your case.

2) We provide a string, 'cause folks ask for them, but a strip of cloth already wetted with semen and then dried is just as traditional as a string. No problem using that at all!

butterfly2 · Unread post by **butterfly2** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:12 am

thanks so much ms. cat. i really appreciate your helpful advice & prompt responses. i will just keep the string i have then. added, i have cloths with his dried semen & just a tad of unexpected monthly. im awaiting my lm order to arrive. how i can use these personal items.

thanks,
butterfly

catherineyronwode · Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:33 am

There are many pages on using personal items in the book i wrote, Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic. Rather than rewriting the book here

i shall just direct you to pick up a copy. It is a good investment for anyone who really wants to learn how to use these things in hands-on spell-casting.

butterfly2 · Unread post by **butterfly2** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:07 pm

thanks ms. cat. i will place my order on tomorrow. i appreciate you & the lm staff.

butterfly

butterfly2 · Unread post by **butterfly2** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:05 pm

hi lm fam. i wanted to know if the tying of the knot (would the semen on it of course) would be effective even if the nation sack spell is not performed?

thanks,
butterfly

SouthernGirl · Unread post by **SouthernGirl** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:25 am

Butterfly,
Yes, orgasm is the same as coming. Go for a quickie, keep in mind what your goal is this time, concentrate on this instead of getting "caught up". That's the very way you could hoodoo yourself! If you keep your head so to speak, you'll have attained your goal.

As far as otc stuff, dunno that there is anything specifically to get you to start. The gyno can give you something to jumpstart, but if they're satisfied that everything is as it should be, they probably won't. If you have polycystic ovary syndrome and that is the cause of the irregular periods, exercise can actually help regulate your periods. However, if this is just your normal pattern, you would have to wait til you have one or use your sexual fluids, as opposed to blood. I don't know that it would be as strong, but I guess it would depend on your need for strength vs. speed. Post-menopausal or women who have had a hysterectomy would have to use their sexual fluids. But, given the choice, I personally would wait for a period.

I'm hoping if something is incorrect in what I've written, someone will jump in and correct it.

catherineyronwode · Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:51 am

A nation sack is a kind of mojo hand. Although it generally does conain a knotted string, there are many other forms of work that employ knotted strings. The knotted string may be used as a candle wick, for instance, and burned to destroy a man's nature. It may be wrapped around the base of a Santisima Muerte statue to keep him faithful. Etc.

butterfly2 · Unread post by **butterfly2** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:55 am

thanks ms. cat for your response. its greatly appreciated. how can i be sure if its really worked. i dont think it worked but i hope it will. i havent performed the ns spell yet, but the knots have been already done. im unsure if it worked or not.

thanks,
butterfly

countrygirl_1223 · Unread post by **countrygirl_1223** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:58 pm

Do I need a different Nation Sack for each "spell" if it is for the same person? I would like to try the female domination spell but the nation sack that I would purchase from the store doesn't have the high john the conquer root? Can the herbs in the nation sack be used for the female domination spell?

Lukianos · Unread post by **Lukianos** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:34 pm

Hi countrygirl_1223

Most folks who carry Nation Sacks carry only one such sack, and there would be even less reason to consider an additional sack if the works were all directed toward the same target. The Nation Sack also has the distinction of being one of the few mojos that is customarily re-opened to add additional materials over time -- there would be nothing to stop you from adding a John the Conqueror root to a Lucky Mojo Nation Sack if you wished as part of a female domination spell, although it should be noted that the Queen Elizabeth, calamus, and licorice roots in the Nation Sack are all traditionally used in that kind of work, and the Queen Elizabeth root is more specific for supporting feminine power and authority than is John the Conqueror root.

Hope this helps!

Roadrunner · Unread post by **Roadrunner** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:48 pm

The title of this thread seemed odd to me.

Isn't it true that nation sack is short for donation sack?

Plus once you've knotted, it is true that is not the best thing to undo the knots to place more items inside such as personal concerns or herbs?

Mama Micki · Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:14 am

What is the difference between the regular and the triple strength nation sacks? Does the triple strength have additional herbs or just a greater quantity of the herbs listed?

butterfly2 · Unread post by **butterfly2** » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:25 pm

hi roadrunner.

i titled the topic the way i did bc i was trying to find out if a man's natured could be hoodooed by simply tying the knots afters sex or if completing the entire ns spell was necessary & especially since my ns kit had not arrived in the mail yet BUT the knot tying had already been completed.

as far as if nation sack is short for doantion sack i dont know. i dont think so, but im not 100% certain about that.

as for undoing knots, im kind of confused where that is referenced in previous posts or if thats just a general question you have. what i have read on the lm site about untying the knot is that it would have been done by the man in order to unhoodoo his self. as far as herbs 7 personal concerns you would place those things in the sack along with the tied knot with semen.

butterfly

catherineyronwode · Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:35 am

roadrunner,

The tern Nation Sack is probably NOT a shortened form for "donation sack," despite the fact that a well-known blues scholar once speculated that it was. Many people from around the Memphis area also call it a Nature Sack -- that is, one in which a man's nature is captured. The two words -- Nation and Nature -- do not mean the same thing but may be used interchangeably.

-----

Mama Micki,

The Triple Strength Nation's sack has more curios and herbs.

Mama Micki · Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:06 pm

Thank you!

narcissanoir · Unread post by **narcissanoir** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:10 pm

Had some questions concerning the nation sack which is mentioned in the lucky mojo spell archives. The spell mentions adding things to the mojo bag. Does this mean that I would have to add fresh semen or sweat and how often? Also any ideas on how to keep semen from drying up. I have collected some on a towel but of course it has dried up into the material. I can get more but a good way of keeping it and collecting it is what seems to be difficult.
Thank you

starsinthesky7 · Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:39 am

In the archives, it says you need to get the semen on a string, but you cannot orgasm as you cannot mix sexual fluids.

just-a-girl · Unread post by **just-a-girl** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:27 am

Hello all. I've been reading the forums and the wealth of information on the LM site - it is so nice to find reliable information!

It was recommended by a reputable rootworker, a graduate of Cat's class, that I do a nation sack, and the rootworker suggested buying it from LM. On reading the nation sack info page http://www.luckymojo.com/femaledomination.html[url] it speaks of using John the Conquerer root and Queen Elizabeth root in a nation sack (and the rootworker suggested both of those also). The nation sack sold by LM does not list John the Conquerer root as one of the items included in it. Is there a reason for this being not included in the nation sack?

I was also thinking about adding whole ginger root to the nation sack, and something to induce a restless component in my target (to make him restless when he is without me or to create a strong desire to be near me as much as possible). Does anyone have any suggestions of what I could add to create this? Or do the standard nation sack ingredients help in this manner?

Thanks in advance for any insight...
jag

cabriellenil · Unread post by **cabriellenil** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:50 am

I think not all ingredients are listed in the description because otherwise, everyone would be able to assemble one on their own, no? I bought a triple strength nation sack once (which I never used) and it contained John the Conquerer, whatever else is listed, plus quite a few other things.

Turnsteel · Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:10 am

Indeed, seconding what cabriellenil said, it would be bad business to post the whole thing. As for adding a ginger root or anything really besides personal concerns I would say no, a LuckyMojo mojo hand comes with everything it needs, and unless you know what your doing just plopping something into a mojo is not a good idea. You don't need to add any extra herbs or roots to the bag to make him want to be with you, its part of what a Nation Sack does, even more so if you take his measure, use that to tie his nature and keep that in the bag, and of course you must continue to work the bag.

just-a-girl · Unread post by **just-a-girl** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:03 pm

Thanks to you both for your knowledge and assistance!

Many Blessings,
jag

mandycheung127 · Unread post by **mandycheung127** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:02 pm

Hi everyone,

i have a question, i put my nation sack in my bar to sleep . for the last week, i kept dreaming my target person, could it be a sign the mojo is working? or something else?

Thanks

suzyparker · Unread post by **suzyparker** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:13 am

Can anyone tell me what the differences are between the two? I have had much success with a Mojo Bag from LM, but see lots of talk about the Nation Sack. Any insight is appreciated. I see they are both to control a man's nature, but are there distinct differences.

Miss Bri · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:27 pm

Check out this page about the nation sack: http://www.luckymojo.com/nationsack.html
Compare to Follow Me Boy products: http://www.luckymojo.com/followmeboy.html
If you still have questions let us know.

good luck,
Bri

keeperoftherubyshoes · Unread post by **keeperoftherubyshoes** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:34 pm

Hi All,
How often should new items be added to a Nation Sack, or is there a guideline? Been reading, but am not finding a time frame...
Thanks much!!!
RS

blackforrest · Unread post by **blackforrest** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:31 am

butterfly

i think if ur menses were caught, u would be tied together as well...

bubba · Unread post by **bubba** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:48 am

Hi Cat and Lm family

I didnt want to start of a new post , because the post i have is in regard to the nation sack. My question is that has anyone had expereince in doing the Nation Sack and how effective has it been for them, and how possibly did u kno that it is working? Wouldnt that make a guy go crazy and look for solutions like viagra etc..

Im hopeing to do the Nation Sack myself on my Ex bf if he ever come back to me and see how it goes, but i would really like some feedback on anyone whos had personal expereince from it.

Thank u Bubba xxx

silver_disc · Unread post by **silver_disc** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:32 am

Hi again cabriellenil

Is there any way of finding out the "ingredients" of the nation sack? I wasn't aware that it enhances love and harmony, I thought it was mainly to dominate your man, which is something I don't want

Thank you again so much, you've been a great help

*EDIT* Okay, just realised that the ingredients are on the mojo hand catalogue page-

"The red flannel bag contains Queen Elizabeth Root, Lodestone, Magnetic Sand, Dragon's Blood, Licorice Root, Calamus Root, a Silver Dime, a Heart charm, and a length of white cotton string for you to "personalize" according to the instructions, plus a vial of Follow Me Boy"

Is that all that goes into it? Because, strangely enough, both triple strength and normal strength come with the same things..

silver_disc · Unread post by **silver_disc** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:03 am

Ah, riight.. Okay..

I was just wondering, the nation sack is "one of the only mojo hands that are opened from time to time to have things added to it" (I think Miss Cat said this in another thread somewhere) do these things refer only to personal concerns like hair and sexual fluids?

Thanks again!

knowledgeseeker · Unread post by **knowledgeseeker** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:52 am

Hello forum

Im a novice so my apologies in advance if my questions seem stupid

I just bought a womans nature sack from lucky mojo and am wondering if there is a "best" time to activate? Will activating when im on my cycle have any particular effect etc?

Thanx
mona

cabriellenil · Unread post by **cabriellenil** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:48 am

I think the instruction says do the ritual on the first day of your period.

theusurper · Unread post by **theusurper** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:37 am

if you dont have period, i know you can use the fluid, but can i do any time

knowledgeseeker · Unread post by **knowledgeseeker** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:26 pm

thanx for your replies. and yes the instructions did say the first day of my period. i jumped the gun a bit by asking too soon

catherineyronwode · Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:02 am

No time frame. A nation sack is yours to work with as you feel the need or as you please.

theusurper · Unread post by **theusurper** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:15 am

I made the nation sack from LM and fortunately i had everything and of course the personals concern from him. now, my question is how i work with the bag. i have the feeling that the bag is really strong and successful but i want to know ,too, how i know if working. thank you

Donnalee2 · Unread post by **Donnalee2** » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:57 am

What is the difference between a Mojo bag & a Nation sack. I have a personal Mojo I have had for a long time & have often wanted to add curios to it. It sounds like a Nation sack may be what I need.
Thank you For your help.
donnalee

Macbaby · Unread post by **Macbaby** » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:00 pm

Where can these be found? If one is unsuccessful at obtaining them, can they be substituted for something else in a Nation Sack? Also, it says to start the Nation Sack on the first day of one's menstrual period OR on the new moon if a woman is past her 'change'. Is the significance of this the state of the woman when she is having her period or the availability of menstrual blood? I was wondering if I could start the Nation Sack earlier if I have some saved up blood....otherwise I will have to wait a month!

NotDorianGray · Unread post by **NotDorianGray** » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:09 pm

Ms Cat has posted plenty of information about this on the LM website. Also, they have been discussed int he forums before. I would suggest you do a forum search on them.

NotDorianGray · Unread post by **NotDorianGray** » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:12 pm

Try asking all your friends and family to check their coins! I'm sure they'll help if you tell them you want t for a scrapbook project or as a good luck charm.

The new moon and the beginning of the menstrual cycle are powerfully symbolic, and I would stick with these times. They represent the increase of power and also new beginnings. You'd best wait a month.

While you're waiting... Good luck with the dime hunt!

jwmcclin · Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:44 am

The 1960s to current are in circulation...now you know LM sells these dimes.

Mama Micki · Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:46 am

If you are young, it should easy to find a dime with your birthyear in a coin shop.

Macbaby · Unread post by **Macbaby** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:17 am

I didn't know LM sells them! I have to look in to that. I'm looking for two dimes from years 1972 and 1975. I've had my eye out for a while with no luck! And, thanks, I will look into a coin shop as well...