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Re: Helping My fiance stay sober and out of trouble

Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:27 am

You should consider getting his ancestors involved. Go to them, speak to them about what is going on and ask for their intervention to help keep him sober and out of trouble.
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Re: Helping My fiance stay sober and out of trouble

Unread post by LJGDAWNLAND » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:15 am

jwmcclin wrote:cat includes some very valuable advice with Cast Off Evil conjure, please please please take note. She says, "This is always a difficult issue. Magic alone often cannot help a person with severe alcohol or drug dependencies. In order to effect a change, the work must go to changing them at their very core, not just to a little part of them...when trying to help an addict of any kind (and that includes tobacco as well as alcohol and other drugs), i recommend a three-part work: (1) get them in a program, (2) get them in church, (3) do your spell casting and prayer work on them. Even two out of the three has a better chance of success than any one alone."
Yes, my fiance is going to AA. He's also been going to the prayer lodge (he's Apache) and I feel very good about these two things. I appreciate your reply because this just reinforces me in knowing we are on the right trail!

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Re: Helping My fiance stay sober and out of trouble

Unread post by LJGDAWNLAND » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:16 am

ConjureMan Ali wrote:YOu should consider getting his ancestors involved. Go to them, speak to them about what is going on and ask for their intervention to help keep him sober and out of trouble.
I have been praying to his Grampa (he is his Grampa's namesake). Can you suggest to me other ways to honor his Grampa and request his help?

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Re: Helping My fiance stay sober and out of trouble

Unread post by LJGDAWNLAND » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:54 am

I made a honey jar last night for me and my sweetheart. Its the first time I've made a honey jar for us and while the candle was burning, I found myself reading an old letter of his which was a really beautiful romantic one...in it he was so devoted to me and our relationship and gave me his whole heart. this letter was just sitting out on top of my keepsake box. i forgot it was there but somehow the honeyjar candle burning made me look in that direction. i think i'll read a letter everynight when i work the honeyjar ...

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Re: Helping My fiance stay sober and out of trouble

Unread post by jwmcclin » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:27 am

Set up an ancestor altar, it can include simple things, something the person cherished, a picture, a white candle (a tea light, any size)
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Re: Helping My fiance stay sober and out of trouble

Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:19 pm

An ancestor altar is rather simple. You can include a picture, food/drinks he liked to consume, a candle (his favorite color or a white candle),flowers, dish of water, a letter card, etc. Also, anything he liked is great too such as if he like cars, or certain hobbies.If you have access to the grave, then you can purchase some of his graveyard dirt.
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Re: Helping My fiance stay sober and out of trouble

Unread post by LJGDAWNLAND » Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:48 am

This is really good information...thank you. I have a picture of his Grampa and will include things he liked. I don't have access to the graveyard dirt though because he's buried in another State in the South and I am in New England for the time being. I am sure the graveyard dirt would enhance the spell for certain.

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DUI's and alcoholism

Unread post by Lady Blaze » Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:47 am

Hi Folks before we get started I feel the need to inform you all that I am a "what if girl". I love learning everything that I can even if it's scenario's are those, that I would most likely never come across or seem odd. So there isn't any specific situation causing me to ask these questions other than I love the idea of being armed with as much knowledge in my interests (in this case root working) as I can find, and I enjoy little bits of randomness. (lol consider this a warning for any other strange posts you might see me post later on)

That being said, I have seen quite a few posts relating to court hearings for DUIs and I have on various occasions used magic too help heal alcoholism and it got me thinking about the opposite. What I mean is. I have used root working to help with alcoholism, but can it be used to turn someone into an alcoholic? and if so how? It would seem to me that since there are spells to both make someone lose weight and gain weight. There must be spells for both aspects when related to drinking. Would this be along the same line as bringing trouble to a trouble maker? And what if the intended victim isn't really a trouble maker?

1. Can you use a spell to cause someone to be severely intoxicated ? and how would one go about it?

2. Can you use spellwork to cause someone to get a DUI? and again how would one go about this?

3. Can you use these things to cause someone to become an alcoholic and if so how?

4. Is there a way to tell if a person's drinking habits are being influenced?

5. When a person is intoxicated are their defenses down and thus more easily influenced by magical means? and is there a form of protection for this?


Any input ya'll might have would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: DUI's and alcoholism

Unread post by Miss Tammie Lee » Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:13 am

You could confuse them (Inflammatory Confusion and black mustard seed) and cause everything in their life to be sour (vinegar jar). Have a divination first with a Member of AIRR to determine what is justified.
You are writing and speaking with anger-- it is a curse. See the huge thread in The Forum.

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This advice aside, yes you can confuse someone, yes you can put a child molester in jail, but you asked about causing someone to get a DUI and get drunk. You asked about making someone become an alcoholic. I would not do this for ethical reasons. What if that person gets drunk, gets behind the wheel of a car and kills someone you love on the road? What if that person gets drunks and beats the hell out of his Momma? What if that person gets drunk and puts kids in the car and the kids die.
There are other ways to go about it and if it is justified yes you and your Member of AIRR could work together. If putting them in jail is called for write it up and call it out.

Alcohol and conjure don't mix. Focus is a necessity in conjure.

To help protect from people who may be drunk especially during the holiday season, and normal situations on the road, Saint Christopher and Comfrey. VanVan products would also be helpful for safe travel in the car along with other methods to protect someone.
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Re: DUI's and alcoholism

Unread post by MissMichaele » Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:13 am

About cursing generally, you can work a vinegar jar or a doll baby or somebody's dreams with a long customized list of particular miseries, if you like. However, curses tend to strike at the target's weakest system. You may specify alcoholism, but if he comes from a long line of hale and hearty teetotalers, he's more likely to suffer a divorce or bankruptcy -- something he is more vulnerable to.

I agree with Miss Tammie Lee -- if you must curse somebody, do it in such a way as to keep the innocent from harm.

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Re: DUI's and alcoholism

Unread post by Lady Blaze » Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:56 pm

Wow, i appreciate the info but as i stated in the first two paragraphs of my post, i really don't have any enemies that i can think of at the moment and was speaking merely out of curiosity and conversation than a desire to actually do such a thing. At the moment the most anger I feel is being a bit miffed that my phone hasn't stopped ringing today. (BTW anyone know a spell a day of peace and quiet?) lol. So I don't have any situation that I require the aid of an AIRR worker at the moment nor do i feel the need to curse anyone.

I am sorry if I have alarmed anyone that was not my intent. I believe in learning both sides to every coin good and bad. Hopefully one would never need to use the more negative things they have learned but I still would like learn to provide greater understanding. I guess I believe to understand good aspects better you should also under the negative. (just my personal philosophy. I also think this helps with identifying threats and how to protect yourself.) That doesn't mean I want to ever have to use it!

As I have stated, i have previously used magic and spells to aid alcoholics in their recovery and to try and lessen any impact that drinking may cause both to themselves and innocents around them. But to my line of thinking that also means that the opposite can be done, and I merely wanted to have an understanding of it.

Once again I apologize for alarming anyone, that truly was not my intent.

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Re: My Mother Suffers from Alcoholism and Diabetes

Unread post by jmcail » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:17 am

Your mother needs to have something to do to forget that habit. LIke to go anywhere or make your mother busy with her work. And if it not still working don't lose hope.

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Re: My Mother Suffers from Alcoholism and Diabetes

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:23 am

Another avenue you might explore is focused prayer with a crystal ball and the use of Psalms to protect her. There are several good techniques for helping a distressed person from a distancethat i could describe, and if you call the radio show and get selected as a guest, i will gladly go over them for you.

In the meantime, or in addition, be sure to utilize the services of the Crystal Silence League as well. The CSL will pray for her daily, and if you post "reminder" prayers once a week or once a month, the folks at the CSL who keep the prayers on their altars for 30 days at a time will always have her in their thoughts. You can upload her picture to the CSL with each prayer request and the picture will not be seen by the public, only by the pastors and members of the CSL. Do not use her full name in the prayers, please, as we edit out full names to a first name and a last initial for the sake of privacy.

The place to find the CSL is here:

http://crystalsilenceleague.org

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Re: My Mother Suffers from Alcoholism and Diabetes

Unread post by Miss Tammie Lee » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:44 pm

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Re: Help with sexual/alcohol addicted friend

Unread post by BLUE SCORPIO » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:22 pm

Hi im new to the forum - this will be my first post - basically my situation is about porn addiction - which has been haunting me off and on - for many years (since the internet started in the 90's) - i consider myself a very spiritual person - and i want to progress spiritualy and serve God - but this addiction just gets a strong hold on me - and its seem to me when i get bored and have alot of free time-

ive been to a few spiritual circles like the "white eagle lodge" for help but i always seem to fall back on this addiction - not only that - in this addiction i always feel guilty of wrong doing to God - and that i feel like god wil not make me progress to a higher level of spirituality

i just want this to stop completely and for this addiction to be rooted out

so im going to need some strong encouraging suggetions

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Re: Help with sexual/alcohol addicted friend

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Read through these posts BLUE SCORPIO.
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Help with my Father in Law

Unread post by mimigil » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:02 pm

Hi everyone!

I need help with kind of a sticky ( for me, anyway!) situation. Last year my Hubby's stepmom passed, leaving his elderly dad alone. As we travel for a living we go to Reno on a regular basis to take care of him, because we both firmly believe that it's our duty. The problem is this: He's an alcoholic.

My sister-in-law has enabled him to the point where he is, literally, falling down drunk all day! We finally had a family meeting. Both of them were told, flat out, that if he didn't get a grip on his drinking he'd end up in a home, something nobody wants.

My father is a recovering alcoholic, and thusly I know all the ins and outs of drying out. Given his age and health, we didn't think it would be advisable to cut him off completely. So we are attempting to wean him. My sil just doesn't get the idea. Plus, he's hiding his booze.

I have appealed to The Relatives (ancestors) for help, but nothing so far. I'm wondering if this is because we're so far away? Or maybe because The Relatives are catholic and I'm not. Which saint's should I work with to help him? Or will they become offended because I'm not christian? I've never had to work on a devout roman catholic before (I'm a witch) . So I'm not sure just how to proceed.
Any info ya'll can provide will be much appreciated.

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Re: Help with my Father in Law

Unread post by Mama Micki » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:45 pm

Cast Off Evil products would be appropriate in this case. They are useful for getting rid of bad habits, addictions, and evil companions.

Many Witches, Wiccans, and Pagans work with saints and angels, but that is up to you. Two "unofficial" saints that can help with alcoholism are Matt Talbot and Mychal Judge, who were both recovered alcoholics.

Venerable Matt Talbot grew up in a family of alcoholics and resorted to stealing to feed his drinking habit. One day he and his brothers stood outside a pub trying to get drinking money but without success. Suddenly, he decided to go home and announce that he would take a vow before a priest to stop drinking. He kept his vow until his death 41 years later.

Father Mychal Judge was the first recorded victim of 9-11. He gave last rites to those who were lying in the street, then entered the North Tower and offered prayers and absolution to the dying. In 1978, he had recovered from alcoholism with the help of AA. He was also one of the first clergy to work with victims of AIDS. Both the Orthodox-Catholic Church and Old Catholic Church (neither is affiliated with the Roman Catholic Church) have declared him a saint.
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Re: Help with my Father in Law

Unread post by mimigil » Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:06 pm

Thanks, Mama Micki!

Usually I'd use a roman deity, but I really wish to branch out and become more familiar with other pantheons. It's been pointed out to me that I've been limiting myself. lol

I don't have any issue with working with the saints. I think it's more an issue of being unfamiliar with them. I was raised Jehovah's Witness, left them and went straight to paganism. I know the HP of our church works with saints, but I'm not home (in nc) right now and this is rather urgent. He fell three times last night and my sil is a wreck.

Thanks again!
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Re: Help with my Father in Law

Unread post by Laila » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:19 am

I have a lot of experience with alcoholics, and unfortunately tapering off or trying to limit the drinks to say 3 a day just doesn't work. Alcoholics who are still drinking will do anything to get their fix, including drinking mouthwash and hiding plain vodka in a water bottle or glass (plain vodka has no smell).

Kudzu is an herb that can really help because it stops alcohol cravings and diminishes withdrawal symptoms. Google Kudzu for information! A good B-complex vitamin and a whole food multivitamin will also help tremendously. Milk thistle and dandelion will help the liver to recover.

As for LM products, I would work with cast off evil, run devil run and uncrossing with banishing spell work, especially on Saturdays during the waning moon phase. Use crucible of courage, king solomon's wisdom, and healing, especially on Sundays and Mondays during the waxing moon phase.

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Re: Alcohol and it's affect on magic

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:55 pm

Alcoholism is a serious medical/genetic issue with life-long health and social consequences. If he is an alcoholic, his best shot at having a good life and a becoming a true love to someone is to join Alcoholics Anonymnous and embarking on the 12-Step Program.
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Re: Spell-Casting to Help an Alcoholic Relative or Friend

Unread post by LadybugNW » Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:05 pm

I, too, have a special person in my life who I've come to realize has a powerful addiction to alcohol; he is a lovely person with a truly kind heart and in so many ways I could see us building a life together. We were long-distance dating for much of the past year+, I recently moved to his city so that we might move our relationship to the next step, and I see that although he is what AA would consider "high-functioning". Most of his life revolves around alcohol: morning "hair of the dog", drinks at lunch, happy hours, and drinks into the night. He drinks more in one day than many people I know drink in a week.

I feel such utter sadness about this, not only for my own dreams for us to someday have a happy life and family together, but also because it is so hard to see a good man destroy himself in such a way. His alcohol addiction is not only destructive to his health, but also is proving to be a tremendously expensive habit for him. It is difficult for me to broach the subject with him because I know that he will most likely never want to speak with me again, and I care for him deeply.

Although I will very likely explore some of the helpful spells posted above, I was wondering if you might also have one that you would suggest for me as the partner of an alcoholic? Perhaps something to help me say the right thing at the right time, or for the saints to help me see the right path? Or maybe for me to have the strength to figure out the right thing to do in this situation?

Thank you for your help and patience in reading my lengthy post. : ) Happy Holidays!!!

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Re: Spell-Casting to Help an Alcoholic Relative or Friend

Unread post by aura » Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:23 am

Hi LadybugNW,

in addition to the Cast Off Evil spell for the remission of alcoholism here: http://www.luckymojo.com/castoffevil.html; in order to say the right words and have the strength for that difficult conversation, you may want to consider the following product combinations for yourself:

Baths:
1 part King Solomon Wisdom bath crystals
1/2 part Clarity bath crystals
1 part Crucible of Courage bath crystals
1/2 part Mercury bath crystals
1 tsp crumbled deer's tongue herb

Anointing oil:
1 part Crucible of Courage
1 part Mercury
1 part Sun
1/2 part Crown of Success
1/4 part Road Opener
-a piece of deer's tongue and some chips of angelica root in the bottle u combine the oils in.

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Re: Spell-Casting to Help an Alcoholic Relative or Friend

Unread post by Mama Micki » Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:33 pm

LadybugNW wrote:Most of his life revolves around alcohol: morning "hair of the dog", drinks at lunch, happy hours, and drinks into the night. He drinks more in one day than many people I know drink in a week. I feel such utter sadness about this, not only for my own dreams for us to someday have a happy life and family together, but also because it is so hard to see a good man destroy himself in such a way. His alcohol addiction is not only destructive to his health, but also is proving to be a tremendously expensive habit for him. It is difficult for me to broach the subject with him because I know that he will most likely never want to speak with me again, and I care for him deeply.
You don't specify any real problem, except that he drinks more than people you know and that you think he may eventually experience health and financial difficulties due to drinking. You do not say that he is violent, he blacks out, gets DUIs, is without an income, etc. It doesn't sound like he is "destroying himself," just not fitting into what you want. I suggest that you move on and find someone more compatible with your values and lifestyle.
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Re: Spell-Casting to Help an Alcoholic Relative or Friend

Unread post by LadybugNW » Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:07 am

Thank you, Aura! That is exactly what I am looking for.

Re: Mama Micki: Just came here for the kind of information that Aura gave me, not to divulge intimate details or to be judged for not doing so.

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Re: Spell-Casting to Help an Alcoholic Relative or Friend

Unread post by Mama Micki » Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:41 am

LadybugNW wrote:Re: Mama Micki: Just came here for the kind of information that Aura gave me, not to divulge intimate details or to be judged for not doing so.
I merely gave my opinion based on what you posted. No one is "judging" you or asking you "to divulge intimate details." It appears that you got involved with this guy without knowing much about his day-to-day life, which includes more drinking than you like. The real question is: Do you want to try to change him or would you be better off finding someone else? You are not married and have no children together, so I think you should cut him loose and find someone else. You can use Cut and Clear if you decide to do this.

If you proceed with doing work on him, at least set a time limit, so weeks don't turn into months and months don't turn into years while you wait for him to become what you want.
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Chronic Alcoholic

Unread post by indian_conjure » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:56 am

Situation is this my Father is a chronic alcoholic. He has been drinking ever since I can remember and recently for the past few years he has been drinking two times a day and creating nuisance in the family. He is not willing to give up drinking at any cost. So what can be done to make him stop drinking and return peace in my home.

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Re: Chronic Alcoholic

Unread post by Mama Micki » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:19 pm

Exactly how much is he drinking? Two drinks a day hardly qualifies someone as an alcoholic. If it's a lot more than that, Cast Off Evil can help.
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Re: Chronic Alcoholic

Unread post by indian_conjure » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:04 pm

Well he drink maybe 2 or 3 shots in the morning and at night maybe more because be becomes a complete drunk and causes nuisances especially abusing my mother.Other than the drinking he is more or less sober.

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Re: Chronic Alcoholic

Unread post by aura » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:40 pm

Hi Indian_conjure,

there are many techniques and approaches to the problem discussed in the thread I have merged your posts into. Hopefully some of these can help.

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Re: Spell-Casting to Help an Alcoholic Relative or Friend

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:29 pm

In addition, there is also a thread about love spells to be cast on alcoholic and drug addicted people. It's in the Lov Spells area of the forum, here:

Love Spell w/ Alcoholic Drug Addicted Violent Abusive Person
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Specific Spell Clarification to get husband to stop drinking

Unread post by sweetnshort767 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:14 am

Hi LM Family,

I hope everyone is doing well. I had a question regarding a spell which Ms. Cat had shared on her Radio Show quite a while ago. Maybe in 2011 or so. The spell was to get someone (in my case my husband) to stop drinking. She had mentioned to take some of the alochol he drinks (e.g beer or wine, or whatever the case maybe) and red pepper, vandall root, sulpher powder, cast off evil and to take it to the graveyard with his hair and dig a whole and put it in there. She had also mentioned to ask for permission at the grave before hand.

Now I need some clarification:
i) My husband drinks beer, wine, black lable, gin (everything) so which one would I take to the graveyard? Could it be anything which he has at home? & how much?
ii) Does it matter what time I take it to the graveyard? Could it be during the daytime?
iii) How do I ask for permission at the grave? and do I offer anything?
iv) Also, do I mix all the ingredients in the alcohol and then pour it in the hole?

I appreciate the help. I have already ordered the items from Lucky Mojo and will perform this once I get them.

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Re: Specific Spell Clarification to get husband to stop drinking

Unread post by Mary Bee » Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:49 am

Now I need some clarification:
i) My husband drinks beer, wine, black lable, gin (everything) so which one would I take to the graveyard? Could it be anything which he has at home? & how much?

I'd mix a little of each liquor that's in the home and put it in one bottle. Use a regular sized liquor or wine bottle.



ii) Does it matter what time I take it ... e daytime?

I'd take a spell like this to a graveyard at midnight.
iii) How do I ask for permission at th ... anything?

There are several ways people use to pick a grave at which to work. Some people just pick a random grave. Some count 7 graves in from the gate and use that one. Some people take a dime (used as payment) and, standing at the gate, throw it as far as they can inside and whatever grave it lands on is the one you go to.

Bring an odd number of silver dimes to pay the spirit of the grave. You can just say prayers and ask politely if the spirit will help you. Then pay attention to how you feel. You'll get a feeling of "yes I will help you" or "no, please go away". If the spirit agrees, you can use that grave. If not, you need to find another one.

iv) Also, do I mix all the ingredients in the alcohol and then pour it in the hole?

I believe you bury the whole bottle at the grave.


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Unread post by sweetnshort767 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:54 am

Thank you Ms Mary Bee. I appreciate the clarification

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alcoholism and fear of love

Unread post by Luna » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:55 pm

Hi

I really need your help and advice. I have been together with a wonderful man for almost 2 year now. I really love him, and I know he loves me too.

He is a alcoholic, and he knows it, he want to stop drinking, but he is stubborn and afraid. The last 6 months have been very hard and painful.

His drinking has been worse, and his behavier too. He can be very mean to me, agressive. He can call me lots of hurtful things. And then after he regrets it. But now he starting to lose control over himself everytime he drinks. He is like two people. A good and a bad guy.

Last week I told him that im very worried about him, I see how he changes. Im afraid of him when he gets agressive and mean. He started to

pick on me, Iam the one who need help, Im a bitch, he also started to lie to me, he told me that his mother thinks Im stupid and sick.

And his friends too. I can not talk to him anymore. And everything is on his conditions.

He dont want to see me right now, he is very selfish. I run in to him today, he was drunk. But I saw in his eyes,a lots of love and sadness.

I am also an alcholic, but I have been in AA for 20 years. I could be a wonderful support for him. ( not save him). I have been very honest to him from the start. I can talk about my feelings and show them. And I am the first women in his life, that he have love. He is very afraid of love and comittment.

What can I do, to help him to find the courage to get help? He really need help. What can I do, so he let me in his heart? He is so afraid of love.

I miss him so much, and I dont want to lose him. I have some of LM products here at home. Cast of evil herbs, love products, follow me boy, loadstones,

Right now, Im burning a candle with love me oil. But I feel it needs some more powerful work here.

Its urgent, he has stop eating, he just drinks. He is going to kill himself. He have not work for 5 years. He is vey sensiitve and afraid.

And its break my heart when he rejects me like this. I could be a wonderful support.

Please help me! Please forgive my poor english :?

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Unread post by aura » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:31 am

Hi Luna,

You know from your own long and hard-won experience in AA that until he wants help or hits bottom, he won't go and get the help he needs. Nothing you do or say can change that. Therefore, rather than Love Me work right now, concentrate on the Crucible of Courage and Cast Off Evil along with some Healing Miracle and perhaps a bit of Road Opener.

You may also, if you work with Saints, consider petitionning Saint Martin (of Tours), patron Saint of alcoholics (amongst many other things as well). A standard prayer to him is the following:

''Blessed Saint, you were born under pagan ways but since your childhood you were chosen to be a prince of the Church and, as Bishop of Tours, many souls were redeemed and liberated from the satanic forces through your prayers, austerities and blessings.
We humbly ask for your intercession before Our Lord Jesus Christ because we want to be worthy of the Holy Spirit that lead us from darkness to light into the eternal kingdom, forever and ever.''

For your sake, I hope that with such work your man will come around. But that said, give yourself a firm time limit on how long you'll work on this because after working so hard to keep yourself on the straight and narrow, you deserve to be loved and cared for in return - not giving energy without getting anything back.

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Unread post by Mama Micki » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:40 am

I posted earlier in this thread about two saints, Venerable Matt Talbot and Father Mychal Judge, who were recovered alcoholics. Please read about them and petition them if they appeal to you. You can use Holy Oil, All Saints products, and/or Cast Off Evil if you do.
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Unread post by Luna » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:09 am

Thank you for your support and help, I wonder how I can best work the cast of evil products in this matter? Any tips? Also about the courage matter?
I also want him to come closer to me, let me in his heart. So he can feel trust and love to me. to help him in this situation-
Sometimes he so close to me, he can talk about his problem, then he just reject me, make me to the problem....

I really love him, and Im willing to give it time, about a year. Please, any advice? About the magical work


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Unread post by more rainbows » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:20 pm

Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right place.
I'm separated from my husband. He moved out in November and finally got his own place on Saturday. He comes around Tuesday, Thurs, Fri, Sat and Sun. He takes us to eat, buys groceries, pays bills, takes us to the park, sometimes I make dinner. He paid for the cat the see the vet.
Still, he is very self-centered and does things that hurt me. He is alcoholic, smokes and tends to feel sorry for himself.
He gained even more weight over eating and now his feet hurt him. He's been to the foot doc 2x for treatment.
Last week, it was like he really wanted to tell me all about it, and the new ugly athelteic shoes he bought.
And he knows I like the new Pope so starts conversations with me about him, even sent me another link to news about the Pope today.

Still he bolts as soon as are daughter goes to bed, unless he has to tell he needs to do something.
Like last month, he was throwing a bachelor party in Pismo so he wasn't going to be visiting. I didn't really believe him, so he sent me his email confirmation for the campsite "It's something I can't get out of. The other guy has baby born prematurely."
(But our 14 year old daughter was born prematurely and has special needs, so volunteers for bachelor party???")
Then he texted me if he could take us to dinner when he was coming back?? We had at an Italian place with him.

Or, like last night, he packed more stuff, all he could carry, but sends me a link about the Pope today??

Sunday night he was really self-centered and after I made dinner, sat and ignored me afterward and chatted with our daughter when I told her it was bath time. I had put effort in to making things smooth Sunday, (our daughters needs for education and exercise, dinner etc) and I told him I felt punished, and de-motivated. There was still her laundry to put away and the kitchen was a mess, and he was just sitting basking until he had to jump up and check the score of a game. I told him when he was here I expected him to be concerned about what was going on here. I said I wasn't going to be chiming alarm.

So last night at dinner, he gets me another soda when he sees mine is empty. Later at home, he helps and tells our daughter she needs to not be sneaky when we play UNO, play by the rules. He points out he is concerned about what is going on around here, then he packs more stuff when she goes to bed.
I'm still hurt and confused. I feel like making an effort at anything, being a mother to his child or a partner to him, gets me punished.
A local reader say we could be happy together if he stops drinking.
I have my daughter with me all day due to the spring break and I couldn't sleep last night. I asked for prayer on the Crystal prayer site and listened to mediation music.

I keep getting hurt by him in some way.
I want to feel better and I want him to stop hurting me right now.
Healing candle/oil?
I'm all distracted with these hurts and need to be there for my daughter.

Later for long term will be some other work. I did other work on him before.

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Unread post by Susan Barnes » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:21 am

Hi More Rainbows,

In the last line of your post you write; "I did other work on him before." What other work exactly?

My heart goes out to you, it is difficult to please another person when you aren't certain of what they want and how to meet their needs when they aren't being upfront with you or themselves. It is easier to figure it out when you know what it is you want and need from them. Sounds like he is unable to meet your needs or a part of him doesn't want to meet your needs. But he still hangs on to you. I see your dilemma. And I feel your angst
I've was in a similar position in the past. But after the same B.S. from the person I knew I decided to become informed and read, prayed, joined a church even though I wasn't born in the church I joined, I joined because they had a strong healing ministry. I also broke off some friendships that fed into the same depressive/ bad man/poor me mentality and finally left the relationship.

Like an addiction, who you hang out with can drag you down to the sewer. Be mindful of who you are conversing with, confiding to, trusting, and who your child hangs out with.

Anything can be an addiction. Hoarding, smoking, drinking, being a victim, fame, sex, success, failure, thieving;( not just items or lovers, but ideas as well), money, working, food. We're mammals, we get addicted. But as humans, we can become whole and leave addiction behind in the past. It's your choice, you're a smart person, you have a good heart, you know you can do what is best for you or not.

Probably the first thing would be to get some solid grounding here. If it were me, I'd get a reading before starting anything. You can get an excellent reading from a reputable reader to asses the basic situation and a map to figure out how to get to where you need to be in this situation in order for you to achieve your ultimate goal and to solidify what your ultimate goal is in the first place. For a list of skilled workers go to;
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In the meantime, Use some cleansing and blessing spells for yourself and for your daughter.Him to if he keeps coming back and is in the home.


Hold this man up in prayer. Hold your daughter up in prayer, hold you up in prayer. Ask the Lord for strength. No matter what has happened or what has been said or unsaid. Forgive him if you feel it in your heart to forgive, and after your prayer, give this problem up to God. Ask God if this man may continue to be in your life as a mate. Ask yourself if he deserves you and if so, why and how? As a husband, lover, friend, ex?
Be certain in your mind how you want this game to be played because you're allowing him to dictate the rules of this game and I say game because it looks like it's being played out as a game on his part even if he's conscious or not of what he's doing, he's hurting you.
Give it a time limit. A time limit puts you back in the driver's seat.

For helping him cut and clear his addiction to alcohol, cleanse yourself with a cleansing bath, believe he is well, visualize him well and not drinking, and there are spell kits on the lucky mojo curio co site that address these situations. Cast Off Evil is a good one.

In the book Hoodoo Rootwork Correspondence Course by Catherine Yronwode on page 281, the second paragraph addresses this. The title of the section of the book I'm referring to is, "How can I help someone addicted to alcohol and drugs?"

You can also go to http://www.luckymojo.com/spells.html for a list of free spells that include blessing spells and other information that pertains to your case.

Cleansing baths are wonderful for you and also your daughter to cleanse you both from these types of negative energies he's got swirling around him right now.

I'm not a fan of the things he says to her when ya'll are playing card games, it's not cool and I hope you tell her she's playing just fine. Sometime people accuse others of what they themselves are up to.

I'm also really curious to know what work you did on him before.


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Unread post by more rainbows » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:56 pm

In the beginning I did come to me, hummingbird, road opener and red skull, candles. Even added a little honey to some of them. Even did some Intranquil Spirit.
Sine things were stalled I did some red and black love cleaning candles and some baths with Rue oil from a local shop.
Later my mother became ill so I did a healing candle for her. I haven't redone Hummingbird or skull or
He knows to to drink around us anymore. He knows I won't allow it. He knows now to show up on time when on the days he says he is. Once he was almost an hour late and said it was fine because a football went into over time. Another time he was going to be late since he was looking at apartments. That time I told him he couldn't come in. Later he had had to put the visit on pause one Saturday to go look sign rental papers. But this last time of moving he did everything early so as not to impact the visit time.
I have been doing a prayer daily. Reciting traditional ones. I asked the St. Dympha group to put a candle for us and joined them for a small donation.
I had told him to leave in the summer if he wasn't going to be about anything for us, he packed, but than asked to work it out. He had yelled out our daughter the night before and they sounded like brother and sister calling names. I hated it. He hasn't done that since.

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Unread post by Susan Barnes » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:07 pm

Dear More Rainbows,

Do you drink?
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Unread post by Susan Barnes » Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:47 am

Ok.
Let's go with a muli-disciplinary approach.

1. Allow no alcoholic beverages in the home. If you have some, get rid of it asap.
2. Your daughter and husband aren't brother and sister, it may appear to you they fight like brother and sister but to a young female, doing battle with a grown man who may have alcohol issues is very scary. She's gone back bone and I like that but she shouldn't have to be in the position of being your protector. She's too young and it could affect her future outlook with men.
3. Put the Uno game up or give it to a charity. Uno means one, this is symbolic of the # 1, me, me, me. Let's get them working together not against one another.
4. Get him in A.A. and you and her to an Al Anon meeting. They have them for adults and for teenagers. In your first post you used the term daughter in the plural form, if there is another daughter, she needs to be in Al Anon for young people with her sister. If you drink, even just socially, try an AA meeting for yourself, if it doesn't apply stick with the Al Anon meetings, plus you'll meet other people who are in the same boat as you and you can share. compare and learn.
5. Stop being inconsistant. One time you won't let him in for drinking or whatever, and the next time you let him in and he misbehaves. You're rewarding the bad behavior and making a not very example for your daughter because to him, she's fair game and he knows it. She a strong young female, but the strength could be misdirected as she gets older.
I like her strength, she's the one in the house who stands up to him. But she shouldn't be placed in that position.
6. You mention you used Intranquil spirit and did other work as well. He's acting like someone who's had some intranquil spirit work done on them. He's angry, quarrelsome, and a bully.
There is a thread here on the forum on Intranquil spirit, look it up and read every post on the topic. He's going to need Blessing, tranquility, healing and sugar jar work.
7. Get a reading by an approved, experienced rootworker. I'll list the link again: http://www.readersandrootworkers.org so you can see the core of the issue and receive directions on what to do or undo. You can check out the customer testimonials if you need help deciding at: http://www.customer-testimonials-(22.html)
8. Read about alcoholism here: alcoholism-+8119/#p45538
9. cleanse your home. I like Chinease wash, go to : http://www.luckymojo.com/chineasewash.html
10. use baths. Protection for your daughter and for you. Also for you use Clairity and King Solomon for wisdom.
11. recite Ephesians chap. 6 for protection for yourself and your progeny.

If you don't get out much, take a walk everyday. Fresh air does wonders to calm and clear the mind.
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Unread post by dani0203 » Sun May 19, 2013 9:33 am

My husband, I'll call him "T" has been an alcoholic for years. It has ruined our marriage and our life together. He finally went into rehab a couple of weeks ago after promising me that he would pick up our son from school and he went to a bar instead. I'm worried about when T gets out of rehab. If he is around the same friends and neighbors (we don't live together) that could easily put him right back where he started. He used to be a great dad, but in the past few years, his relationship with our son has been destroyed. Our son has been getting his hopes up that he might "get his dad back" and I'm hopeful, too but don't want to see him heartbroken again.
T has spent a lot of money on drinking and helping friends while our son and I struggle. I have asked about this situation on here before and already have a pic of father/son cut with a dollar bill between (suggested by Cat).
I don't want to seem like a control freak, but I care about this man and even though I don't even know if I want him back, I do want him to be ok and have a good relationship with our child and take care of his responsibilities. His parents and I are the only ones that I'm sure of as far as having his best interests in mind. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I have his drivers license and was thinking about dressing that, since it is something he will have with him at all times when he is out of rehab.

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Re: Spell-Casting to Help an Alcoholic Relative or Friend

Unread post by aura » Sun May 19, 2013 10:00 am

Hi dani0203,

I've merged your post into the Forum thread on using spell-work to help alcoholic friends, relatives and close ones. There is a lot of excellent advice and some great spell-casting ideas to get you started.

To get rid of the bad influences in his life, you can work a vinegar jar to sour the friendship they have with your husband or a freezer jar to freeze them out of his life.
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Re: Spell-Casting to Help an Alcoholic Relative or Friend

Unread post by dani0203 » Sun May 19, 2013 11:50 am

Thank you, Aura. I see a lot of great ideas here. Don't know how I couldn't find this before?!?
A freezer or souring jar is a great idea. It seems so obvious now that you've said it, but when I get really stressed about things, I sometimes miss the obvious... Thanks again!

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Unread post by Mama Micki » Sun May 19, 2013 10:59 pm

dani0203, I would suggest a combination of Cast Off Evil (to help with overcoming the alcoholism and getting rid of bad companions) and Compelling (to get him to fulfill his obligations).

If you are not interested in a relationship with your husband, I suggest you file for divorce and get a child support order.
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Drunken Father.

Unread post by wanting2develop » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:25 pm

Well I'm living at home right at the moment, and for whatever reason, my dad has started drinking again. He used to be so good, going to AA, not having anything for a year. Then all of a sudden for the past few weeks, he has continued. First margaritas, then beer, now whisky. And for the first time in a while today, he has yelled at us. He's calmed down, but frankly, I think he needs to stop permanently.

I'm torn in the methods and ways I can go about it. I want him to stop and have the courage to stop and the wherewithal to have a beneficial transition to sobriety. I want whatever is bugging him to be handled in a responsible, calm way. However, I am so angry at him for the pain and embarrassment he puts on himself and this family. I want him to be confronted by his own problems, I want him to realize the pain that he causes us, emotionally and mentally. I want him to stop and truly appreciate why.

I will talk to him when he is sober. But I also feel like a little something 'extra' could go along way. I'm worried at his age with his heatlh problems, he won't live as long as he could. And though I regretfully state that I only care because he is my 'dad' and nothing more to it, I don't want to see him in pain and (perhaps more importantly) my mom and my fellow family members to go down the path with him.

P. S (My brother in law and a family friend of ours have been getting in the way of his sobriety by constantly bringing with them the beverages that will later be let behind. what can I do about them?

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Unread post by starry moonlit night » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:58 pm

Hello wanting2develop,

You can try some "Cast off Evil" products and some "Clarity" products.

http://www.luckymojo.com/clarity.html

http://www.luckymojo.com/castoffevil.html
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Re: Spell-Casting to Help an Alcoholic Relative or Friend

Unread post by Sharon Athena » Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:58 am

I didn't know where else to post this, and this is vaguely related to the stated topic.

This morning, I woke up to a disastrous nightmare of epic proportions. My DFH wakes up, finds 3/4 of this marijuana missing, his phone(s) Contact numbers have been messed around with, his lighter's gone. We'd both taken Xanax last night because we were both coming down from non-weed materials that both of us need to be in treatment for. I gave him 1mg and I took 2.75 mg. We both each smoked some marijuana, he almost immediately, he rolled over and went to sleep. About 20 minutes later, my Xanax finally kicked in and I went to sleep as well.

That's literally everything that happened.

My man and I have been having a rough go of it lately, and he has trouble with the law over it (which is why I bought the Court Case spell last month). Because of the circumstances of above-mentioned case, my DFH has to continue his usage of said poison his purveryor sells because the Omaha Police want his purveyor with a will. S/he ( I use that to protect his/her identity private) has come up in investigations in the last two years from the FBI, DEA and now the Omaha Police Narcotics division. So DFH is in hot water for other reasons, but they want to use his association with him/her as a carrot to get him to turn traitor against someone he considers a friend, which is also making this much harder on him.

This crap this morning was the very last thing we needed because of the above-named factors; and I'm fresh out of ideas or answers because I don't have any clue about how any of it happened...but he's blaming me and using that reason (which, if I really had done these things, would be the most appropriate answer, but I didn't) breaking up with me. Painfully for both of us, we really do love each other (he re-iterated this to me this morning as he was telling me he couldn't believe he'd actually thought I really loved him, and then I went and did this....which I didn't...but because neither of us know anything beyond what I've mentioned here, I can't prove him wrong.


My next guess is, either [a] a spirit took control of one of us and did it. The victim was most likely me (because this happened once before and it had been my Dad who'd took control of me and had me erase all DFH's female phone numbers and his memory card). Or , Bobby misplaced all of it or something because I really have no idea what's going on or how any of it happened because I passed out about 20 minutes I have a lawful, legal prescription for Xanax for anxiety. I mention this because I'd been thinking of writing a post asking what kind of spell and I how should go about it, on myself and DFH, to help us in our efforts to get and stay clean from our poison of choice and I suspect that the fact that we were on a comedown from it, both of us had taken Xanax and marijuana to fall asleep, possibly made it super-easy for a spirit to take control of either one of us and do this simply to cause this kind of chaos. I only put myself at the top of the possible victims list because I'm the one who can see and talk to ghosts.

Please help in any way you can as I'm truly out of answers and I do need the advice on a spell I can cast on myself and DFH to further our efforts towards sobriety.

Thank you so much in advance for any and all answers :)

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Unread post by Miss Aida » Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:04 am

Good Morning, Sharon Athena,
I am so sorry that all of this has happened to you.
It really sounds to me like you both need Medical, as well as Legal advice.
I highly suggest that you both see a Physician, as well as an attorney, to sort all of this out.
If you think you did do what you have been accused of, you really need to see a Doctor about this.
If there were no drugs involved (and other factors), then I would have suggested this product: www.luckymojo.com/tibetanghostpurgingincense.html
After seeing the proper professionals, (and still have problems) give it a try.
Hope this helps. Good luck to you
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Re: Spell-Casting to Help an Alcoholic Relative or Friend

Unread post by browneyes13 » Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:09 pm

I read the post here on cast off evil working to help a loved one on addictions like alcohol. I would like to know how and what is needed to purchase to cast away my husbands addiction to alcohol and if anyone can help me.

My husbands addiction to alcohol has cost us a lot of problems in our marriage and him with the law. I know he has tried to quit but can't. I would like to help him, without causing him any harm.

I know I can use cast off evil but what else do I do?

Can anyone share a spell; I like to use candles.

Oh and will I be OK when doing the spell or do I need protection?

Please help.

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Unread post by Susan Barnes » Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:16 am

Hi browneyes13,

I'm so sorry you are going through this. I'm happy to see you are reaching out for help for him.
Most alcoholics simply can't give up alcohol without help. Get him into a 12 step program, and there are programs for people who are involved with an alcoholic.
In addition to the cast off evil products:
http://luckymojo.com/castoffevil.html
There is also a very good product I've found that helps with addictions:
http://luckymojo.com/healing.html

The Lucky Mojo sells candles already fixed and dressed with the correct herbs and oils.
http://luckymojo.com/mojocatcandles.html

For you, the clarity products and King Solomon's wisdom products to help with more insight in
guiding him toward rehabilitation.

Also, go back and read this thread. There have been many excellent answers posted by forum moderators
for this issue.

Read Miss Cat's free online book:
http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodoo.html

I would also encourage you to get a reading and perhaps some magical coaching.
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I need advice for my alcoholic mother

Unread post by stillsosola » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:37 pm

So my mother is an alcoholic

Now I was planning on buying some cast off evil oil
four thieves vinegar
but I don't know which candles or saints to use I was thinking saint jude but I'm not sure any advice?

Also any psalms that I could recite to help her?

She's been an alcoholic for 14 yrs and is abusive I need some help

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Re: I need advice for my alcoholic mother

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Re: Spell-Casting to Help an Alcoholic Relative or Friend

Unread post by Wyrm » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:53 am

Hello all,

I've been reading through the posts here on how to help with alcohol problems. My half brother is an alcoholic, he's unemployed, suffers from panic attacks, has nervous problems and is deeply unhappy. He recently told our mother and I that he was abused as a child (he's now in his fifties) and drinks to numb the pain, as well as to cope with the nervous problems.

I see that folks recommend using Cast Off Evil products to help with alcoholism. As the abuse is an underlying reason for his drinking, would I add Healing products to help? He has no interest in attending programs to recover from alcoholism and has no spirituality so the likelihood of getting him into something like AA is very slim, though my mum and I are going to try to persuade him.

I'd be grateful for any advice on this.

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Re: Spell-Casting to Help an Alcoholic Relative or Friend

Unread post by aura » Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:12 am

Hi Wyrm,

Healing is definitely well advised along with the Cast Off Evil if there was abuse.

Although not Hoodoo, if you work with Saints, Saint-Dymphna can be of particular assistance in cases like this: http://www.luckymojo.com/saintdymphna.html

AA aside, there are a couple of options for someone who isn't spiritual: simply seeing a psychologist or social worker can help. Another option is to choose a volunteer activity, this allows your half-brother to do something outside himself. Abuse survival groups in-person or on-line are yet another choice: this would give him a space to talk about what happened and perhaps over time even come to terms with it. You can also post a prayer request at the Crystal Silence League: http://www.crystalsilenceleague.org/; the service is free and gets lots of people praying for his recovery.

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Re: Spell-Casting to Help an Alcoholic Relative or Friend

Unread post by WhiteEagle » Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:39 pm

Wondering if something similar could help with my Father, his alcoholic addiction had been almost diminished over ther years, the addiction I'm more concerned about is his cigarette addiction. He has COPD and is on oxygen, still smokes... his saturation is in the low 80s usually. Would the same oils work for this addiction? And any other suggestions? Thanks :)

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Re: Spell-Casting to Help an Alcoholic Relative or Friend

Unread post by Miss Aida » Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:45 pm

Hello, azurkgny,

Yes, definitely.

In fact, I'm a heavy smoker and have been considering using the identical myself.

If you decide to do this, please keep us posted. I am particularly interested for myself.

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Re: Spell-Casting to Help an Alcoholic Relative or Friend

Unread post by WhiteEagle » Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:03 pm

Thanks Miss Aida I definately will.

I know it's hard to quit I smoked for many years. Some of my pushes for quiting smoking was I looked at cost of how much it was costing me weekly, then added it up for a year total. Also looking at my families history with smoking COPD and health. Watching my dad not able to get around or go many places isn't easy.
I did start my quiting process by rationing my cigs and then cutting them out day by days, I found my willpower to give it up.
I still have an clove from time to time but no more regular cigs.
I'm hoping to bring my Dad's health to a better place. :)

Thanks again.

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