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Unread post by Transformer » Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:26 pm

Hi, I read on this page that vandal root is used to force love.

http://www.herb-magic.com/vandal-root.html

I purchased vandal root a while back for other purposes but I am curious to know how exactly it can be used to force love. I found the spell involving the green paper and graveyard dirt but I am wondering if there are any other applications or spells.

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Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:24 pm

I absolutely love Vandal Root. It has a terrible smell that has grown on me over the years of working with it.

Vandal Root is one of those roots that crosses over across many different types of conjures, ie. protective, crossing, uncrossing etc. I have found that it is a root strongly tied to spirits and their world. For example, for crossing purposes this root is really strong for bringing up destructive powers and spirits against your enemies. For love purposes it can be used in conjunction with graveyard dirt in a coercive love work.

If you are trying to force love then stick with graveyard dirt and Vandal root. Vandal root by nature wouldn't work well with Rose Petals, Cherry Bark, or other love inducing herbs. One whiff of this root and you'll see why.

Also make sure to wash your hands thoroughly after working with it.

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Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:19 pm

Oh I am so glad Conjureman Ali touched upon the SMELL. Oh my goodness if you have worked with asafoetida...vandal root has nothing on that. Its smell is strong even in a closed bag lol. So make sure when you store it...put it in a tightly closed jar or something air tight. And definitely wash your hands.
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Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:13 pm

Oh definatley! Asafoetida is potent smelling. I use it but have never really grown acustomed to it. On the other hand, despite how bad Vandal may smell, I've ground used to it. It's like a familiar scent to me now :-D
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Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:51 pm

Thats how I feel about asafoetida. It doesnt phase me anymore, but vandal root..I dont think I will get used to that. lol
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Unread post by jwmcclin » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:11 pm

I remember my mother using Asafoetida to remedy colds 'ick' 'ick' 'ick' ...no you never get used to the smell.
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Unread post by Transformer » Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:10 am

oh, believe me, I know! I tightly squeezed a bunch in my hand while at the graveyard calling out for a spirit to help me. Not realizing the stink would stay, I went to a very crowded, small market afterwards. It was like the parting of the red sea. Everyone was repelled to either side of the room. at least I got in and out quickly!

So would a simple vigil candle with vandal root and graveyard dirt do the trick? or, well... I'm not sure what else. thanks!

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Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:13 am

They way the trick has been presented is two fold. In Hyatt we hear about getting the graveyard dirt directly on the person. Straight-forward contact work.

The second method involves wrapping the name of that person in green paper packet with Vandal root and Graveyard dirt.
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Unread post by Mysteriousmoon » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:55 am

I so wanna try this has any one had any results?

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Unread post by Transformer » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:51 am

Hi, you'll find a bunch of info on using graveyard dirt in this this thread:

graveyard-dirt-collection,-purchase,-uses-t5465.html

Here is the page regarding this specific spell:

http://www.luckymojo.com/graveyarddirt.html

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Unread post by Mysteriousmoon » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:00 am

Ive read the threads I just wanna know about the results =P

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Unread post by Transformer » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:14 am

I did this in conjunction with other work. I got results pretty quickly but I don't know if it was due to this spell, the other. or both combined.

I'm definitely a novice but I don't think one particular spell yields better results than an other. I think it is the combination of the practitioner, the spell, and the circumstances. The trick is finding the right combination of the three. I think, anyway....

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Unread post by Mysteriousmoon » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:26 am

So I might work a honey jar and do this Vandal Root spell at the same time?

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Unread post by Transformer » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:11 am

I did my graveyard work with Vandal Root, plus a candle spell and a saint petition at the same time.

Thing is, with all work, you may need a reading before you start. The reading will tell you the exact way to go. Otherwise, everything is just a shot in the dark. It's like using a spray gun hoping something will hit instead of honing in on your target with an exact shot. I wasted a lot of time and money going through endless spells and candles hoping I was using the right one. A reading will tell you precisely what you need to do. I'm not saying not to try these other things. They can definitely complement your work. I think you've already gotten this advice on your other posts.

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Unread post by divaluck » Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:00 pm

I once found a spell that called for wrapping a figural candle up in black cloth with vandal root and hitting with a hammer. I can't seem to find it anywhere now. Does anyone have the link?

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Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:28 pm

This is a trick taught by Miss cat and others that involves using reversing herbs like Blackberry Leaves, binding up the figure candle in black cloth then taking a hammer to it over a course of days while praying for all the evil to be sent back to that person.

Some of us, myself included, used Vandal Root in this work.

Basically, baptize the figure candle as your enemy. Dress it, dust it with powders, sprinkle it with herbs and roots (things like Red pepper, Black Pepper, Vandal, Blackberry Leaves) and place this in a black cloth. Wrap it up and while praying for their evil to return to it, hit it with a hammer three times. Do this over a period of days. On the last day this shattered figure candle is buried in a deep dark hole, or in a graveyard.

I know there was reference to it in one of the pages of LM.

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Unread post by jwmcclin » Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:44 pm

This is the one I found with Asafoetida Powder and Vandal Root http://herb-magic.com/asafoetida-powder.html
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Unread post by Transformer » Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:02 pm

I think this may be the link. It doesn't mention Vandal root but from what I know of the root it sounds like a perfect addition.

http://www.luckymojo.com/spells/black/r ... pells.html

Vandal root and asafoetida are mentioned in other spells on that page.

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Unread post by divaluck » Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:11 am

Thanks!

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Unread post by MALGAR11 » Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:33 am

Hi, I was wondering if anyone has actually done the graveyard dirt spell to force someone to love them and did it work? Also if i do it, can i use my cats grave dirt? I had her for 14 years untill my stupid neighbor ran her over.

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Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:44 pm

Check out this thread here: graveyard-dirt-collection,-purchase,-uses-t5465.html

You will find plenty of information about working with the graveyard dirt of pets, several mentions of using graveyard dirt to force love, and some people's experiences with it.

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Unread post by moonmaiden » Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:01 pm

For the graveyard dirt mentioned in this Vandal Root love spell,

what if there is no way to get dirt off your loved ones grave?
The only people i have cared about who have died are located very far....

Would using Lucky Mojo graveyard dirt be the same...? Any ideas? :(

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Unread post by Turnsteel » Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:09 am

moonmaiden"

Then you can't do this spell of course.

I would say no, Lucky Mojo graveyard dirt is properly bought dirt, but the spirit attached to it is that of someone who personally loved you in life.
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Unread post by snake » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:58 pm

moonmaiden,
I had the exact same issue so I did a different spell instead. There are a lot of good spells out there. Have you had a chance to browse Lucky Mojo's spell archive pages? I suppose you could try it if you were able to buy graveyard dirt from the grave of someone who agrees to do this work for you, if you can speak to spirits well enough. I would really just suggest trying a spell that you can do properly with the right materials.

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Unread post by Luvsart » Wed May 18, 2011 1:21 pm

Has anyone here tried this vandal root grave yard dirt spell, if so how did it work out for you?

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Unread post by Luvsart » Sun May 22, 2011 12:11 pm

I was wondering if you could use the vandal root in a love spell but not directed to anyone particular. Used in a petition for your one true love, who ever that may be, to be brought into your path? Has anyone ever heard of it used this way before.

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Unread post by Turnsteel » Sun May 22, 2011 2:48 pm

Luvsart

I would definitely not use Vandal Root in such a tender-hearted spell. It's a root of crossing,protection and forced love. Rose petals, Red Clover and Cinnamon among a host of others, would be much more appropriate for your intended spell.
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Unread post by Luvsart » Sun May 22, 2011 5:03 pm

I would definitely not use Vandal Root in such a spell. Its a root of crossing,protection and forced love. Rose petals, Red Clover and Cinnamon among a host of others, would be much more appropriate for such a spell.[/quote]
Thanks for your response Turnsteel.
So I could use rose and other traditional love herbs for this kind of spell, but what I want to know is if I needed a herbal link to have a spirit help me. What I wanted was to petition a spirit to help bring the right person to me.

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Unread post by Turnsteel » Sun May 22, 2011 5:21 pm

Luvsart

If you want a kindly spirit to help you, ask the herbs. "Spirit of Rose help me to draw a romantic man, Spirit of Cinnamon make him hot for me" That sort of thing. Everything has a spirit and a big part of successful magic is learning to work with Spirit. You can also work with Althea Herb. Althea has the property of attracting benevolent spirits and can be used to draw there aid.

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Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Sun May 22, 2011 6:02 pm

Vandal root is not a love herb. In fact even when it comes to forced love it works via a spirit of the dead. The coercive love conjures that involve Vandal also include graveyard dirt with the intention of having Vandal help call up and gain the assistance of the spirit of the dead.
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Unread post by SabrinaD1987 » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:05 am

Hey everyone! I am pretty new to the forum although I shop here all the time :)

I just have an inquiry about the Graveyard Dirt. I have used this spell in the past and have had almost instant results. I mean it was a matter of days before I saw a "Sign" and within 3 weeks time I saw "Movement". Im now in waiting for things to "Manifest". This has to be one of the strongest forms I have worked with thus far.

However, I was curious to know if you might be able to have more than one coercive love spell using Vandal Root and Graveyard Dirt going on at one time? Or would the spirits clash?

Im asking this just for general purposes, no reason specifically.

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:14 am

SabrinaD1987, if you are doing the spell traditionally, the qestion of "would the spirits clash?" would be irrelevant since only ONE spirit would be involved -- namely, the spirit of the one who loved you, whom you had asked to make someone living love you -- therefore there would be no "clashing spirits" (plural).

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Unread post by k77084 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:42 pm

aloha all,
I have read the entire thread on this and truly understand that the intent is to have dirt from someone you love work on your behalf. again, I also read the part where one should probably not try this spell with bought graveyard dirt from LM as there is no direct spirit who is attached to you. for the sake of my ignorance and to play devils advocate has anyone tried this with bought graveyard dirt from LM? Just was curious as to the results (if any). I love asking questions that are somewhat out of the box. Again, I do understand the intent of the spell and why it would require the dirt from a love one, but many of us are far from home and often do not have the luxury of being able to acquire the approperiate dirt. Just curious as to see what the overall outcome would be (if any) if LM graveyard dirt was used.
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Unread post by AmaSarah » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:57 am

Hi Kiana, There is discussion in this thread by those who have used dirt not belong to a loved one. You'll prob find your answer in here.

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Unread post by goddess70 » Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:30 am

Hello I was wondering about the Vandal root and graveyard dirt does it work? Does the man you do it on can he be with other women? Or how does that work?

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Unread post by CopperFox » Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:05 pm

Dear goddess70,

The spell that calls for graveyard dirt and vandal root to coerce and hold a lover in thrall is an old and traditional spell that folks are still using. This, more than anything else tells us it is effective, for it is a rather involved piece of work and folks aren't likely to undertake such a thing unless it pays off. While it can't work in every situation, lots of LM members have reported good results and I've successfully seen this spell used by my clients.

It's not my first choice for a love spell, but having little information about your particular situation, it could well be the spell for you. Just take it as it is, work it as miss cat gives it and don't attempt to modify or alter the spell for better luck in attaining the desired results.

If you have questions about this spell, there are several discussions about it on the forum with loads of information and feedback from folks who've used it personally. Perhaps you will update us with your results later, please do!

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Unread post by hapinys » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:43 pm

So I was wondering. Once I get the green paper, vandal rt and graveyard dirt, from my moms grave, and do the whole spell, where should I keep the packet?

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Unread post by Miss Ida Lundin » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:19 pm

The spell calls for placing the packet under your bed.

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Unread post by curlym » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:25 am

Hi,
What is the best day of the week to perform this spell? Wasn't sure if Friday is appropriate since this is coercive love work. Thanks!

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Unread post by Mysticserver » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:26 am

I would think long and hard before "forcing" a man to love you. I knew a powerful woman who was obsessed with a man for almost 50 years. She worked her mojo to have him leave his wife and marry her. She constantly had to do work to keep him. She loved him obsessively for all those years and took care of him through all of his illnesses as he aged. When she was in her mid eighties she became too ill herself to maintain her work and one day he just cursed her out and left her. It broke her heart (not to mention all our hearts who had to listen to her crying and calling for him) and she died a couple of months latter. He didn't even bother to send flowers.

Do everything to attract and enhance love but not force it.

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Unread post by GinaJohnMiller » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:51 am

Just a quick question are Valerian Root and Vandal Root one in the same?

Well a second quick question, if the man you love loves you back would this spell still work?

Thank you all for your time and attention, much appreciated

I am getting the graveyard dirt from my grandmother's grave and just need the Valerian/Vandal Root

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Unread post by AmaSarah » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:00 pm

Hi, yes, valerian root and vandal root are the same thing. See here: http://www.herb-magic.com/vandal-root.html

I'm not sure I understand your second question because I'm not sure this spell is necessary if he already loves you. It may be helpful if you explain your situation a bit.

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Unread post by SilverStar » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:39 pm

Hi everyone,

I tried this spell once (it did not work, but I don't mind, looks like the spirit was much wiser than me in this...) and I'm not sure now how to dispose the remains. The names were written inside a small green envelope and the graveyard dirt and valerian were put into it. Now that I don't want this spell any more, I opened it and since I've heard that graveyard dust protects one's house when sprinkled around it, I sprinkled it around my house, but now I'm having second thoughts and I'm afraid that maybe this was not a proper way to dispose of it. Should I have done differently? Also, how should I dispose of the green name paper?

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Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:57 pm

Graveyard dirt collected is collected specifically for a purpose. To protect your house with a friendly guardian you'd enlist a family member or friendly spirit for that purpose.

To dispose of the love work if it did not work or you no longer want it, I'd take it to the crossroads.
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Unread post by SilverStar » Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:01 am

Thanks for your answer, I'll take the stuff to a crossroads.

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Unread post by Pepper » Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:42 pm

Hi,
and what if spell don't work? Is ok to do the spell all again?

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Unread post by Joseph Magnuson » Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:02 am

Pepper: If the spell doesn't work you are more than welcome to try it all again. If it still does not work you may need to face the fact that someone's help in this particular area of conjuration could be of use to you.
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Unread post by markx » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:28 am

For the green paper, would you write just the name of the person you want? or do it three times and cross it with your own? would you include a petition paper?

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Unread post by Kittyluver » Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:56 pm

I read about Valerian root on herb magic.com and it mentioned something about People wrapping VANDAL ROOT and a photo of their mate in tinfoil to stop fights.

Can somebody tell me if there is more to it. Has anyone tried it? Do you think it can work after a year passing of no contact? Thanks

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Unread post by Papa Newt » Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:35 am

The work you have read about works best during the time a fight is taking place. That's why you carry that packet with you for the three days to pick up the mess causing the fight, and then dispose of it by throwing it into a river. You may consider working Reconciliation instead. Though, since it has been a year with no contact then you may want to consider getting a reading with an AIRR member first before doing any work.
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Re: Vandal Root Valerian Root Questions and Answers

Unread post by Kittyluver » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:04 pm

Papa Newt

Thanks for your response. Yeah, I have had AIRR readings... And worked reconciliation LOL there's no hope :/ just thought I'd ask since I acquired the some of this stinky stuff and wasn't sure what to do with it.. It seriously has the potential to stink up the whole room.. P.U. :o

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Unread post by Papa Newt » Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:56 am

It sure can! Also cats love it! At least mine did. :-P Though, if the need ever arises where you would need to do this work then only use a very small amount of Vandal Root.
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Re: Vandal Root Valerian Root Questions and Answers

Unread post by JayM » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:37 am

Questions about the Graveyard Dirt Love Spell:

1) After wrapping the green paper with the root and dirt, I plan on putting it in a jar. Will the jar be enough to keep the stench of vandal root in? Will putting the paper in a jar affect the spell somehow?

2) To get the smell off my hands after working with it, is there any special kind of soap I need to use?

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Re: Vandal Root Valerian Root Questions and Answers

Unread post by Miss Aida » Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:04 am

Hello, Again, JayM,

I would not place this in an enclosed jar. If you do this, you are trapping the spirit that you want to help you.

I always put 1/2 bottle of Van Van oil in a bottle of lemon scented liquid soap. But you can also ad some Chinese wash to this. Or wash your hands with regular soap and then follow up with salt water, or Florida water.

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Unread post by aura » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:49 am

Hi JayM,

2) In addition to Miss Aida's suggestions, washing your hand with coffee grounds (wet or used is fine) also gets rid of pretty much any pesky odor from Vandal Root as it strips away negativity.

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Re: Vandal Root Valerian Root Questions and Answers

Unread post by hoodoos » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:24 am

Hi. Need help. On the green paper do i have to write just the first names or full names of the people?

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Unread post by aura » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:14 am

Ideally try and use full name and date of birth. If you have personal concerns to add to the paper, use those as well.
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Unread post by hoodoos » Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:54 pm

thank you. How long does it take for this spell to work?I have heard it is the most powerful love spell in existence. I asked some spell casters in Africa and they said that if it doesnt work in three days than it failed . Is that true?

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Unread post by aura » Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:40 am

Anyone who guarantees results from a spell is usually not being particularly ethical with you and I say this for a few reasons:

1 - First off, there is to my knowledge no ''most powerful'' love spell (or anything else spell). There are simply different approaches to a situation, each better suited to a specific spell or set of spells. The results and ''strength'' will vary more based on the susceptibility of the target and the skill of the practitionner than on the spell itself.

2 - Magic is an ''edge'', not a guarantee. It can help tip the scales in your favour but it doesn't replace good old hard work and mundane actions which are also needed to support your magical intention and spell work. A great informational page on the subject that I suggest you read can be found here: http://www.luckymojo.com/spells/real.html

3 - There are no specifics on how long a spell will/can take to manifest. Again, it depends on the complexity of the case, the susceptibility of the target and the skill of the spell worker. Often a reading can help at least establish a time frame and likelihood of success. For more on signs of spell work and manifestation I suggest you read through the following forum thread:
signs-movement-completion-of-spells-questions-&-answers-t6436.html-sid=03d28a5fe8f251b7a326a5d6b4e688d5
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Re: Vandal Root Valerian Root Questions and Answers

Unread post by _Towanda_ » Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:34 pm

Hello everyone,
Ive started this spell with the green paper, graveyard dirt and vandal root about 2 weeks ago, been gettings lots of signs, dreams too. Ill keep you updated. Thank you!

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