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Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:42 am

Copyright thieves COPY things they have no RIGHT to copy. That's why what copyright theives do is called "copyright theft." Copyright theft is against the law and the guilty party can go to jail for FIVE YEARS.

Frances Osborne is a proven copyright thief. She posted pages of my Hoodoo Rootwork Correspondence Course book online and posted other people's books and web sites online at her site too -- she pirated web pages, pictures, and entire books by Chad Barber, Lara Rivera, Jacqueline Mathers, Denise Alvarado, etc. -- and on 11/11/10 she was EXPELLED from the HRCC and all associated groups.

Who is Frances Osborne, copyright thief? Well, here is how she describes herself in flattering terms:

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The Hoodoo Lady - About Me

I am a diviner, a rootworker, a ritualist.
On Yahoo Groups, I am known as "Befeathered."
My name is Frances and please feel free to
email me with your magical concerns!
I've been reading the cards since 2002
and practicing rootwork since 2008.

On a personal level, I am the mother
of one child and I'm owned by four cats.
Yes, they do have ownership papers to prove it!
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Frances Osborne, thieving scum, a.k.a. "Austin Phone Psychic", plagiarized a set of spell instructions from my writings -- straight-out copyright infringement!

Frances Osborne, fake "hoodoo lady," published portions of my copyright protected course book -- a betrayal of specific teacher-student agreements posted on my site and printed in the very book that she copied.

Frances Osborne, phony Voodoo practitioner. "Austin Pagan," and despicable thief, uploaded an illegal pdf of an entire book on Voodoo by Denise Alvarado to her own site.

Frances Osborne, copyright infringer, illegally hosted material from Lara Rivera's HearthHomeHoodoo site in violation of copyright law.

Frances Osborne, who says she has been "practicing rootwork since 2008" is a student of mine who never turned in any homework or graduated -- but stole hoodoo and conjure spellwork written by Dr, Christos Kioni and hosted it at her faked-up conjure site.

Frances Osborne, rip-off artist, stole the writings of Chad "Balthazar" Barber as well as his pictures of rootwork, and hosted them at her site, pretending to be the author of his work.

Frances Osborne, bogus Santeria adherent and flagrant liar, stole the writings of Jacqueline Mathers, a Santeria devotee, and uploaded them to her site as if she was a Santera, which she is not.

Her name is

Frances Osborne
"The Hoodoo Lady"
3400 Stone Ridge Road
Austin TX 78746
USA
512-761-0024
512-347-1705
osborne35@hotmail.com
befeathered@yahoo.com
calliaste@gmail.com

student # 1442
Year 2008
Status INACTIVE (No Homework turned in after 2 years)
Status EXPELLED due to massive, egregious, repeated copyright theft.

And she will hereafter be known to all as an EXPELLED student, and every student
of mine will know that she was expelled and for what reasons.

She is poison.

I never forget and my friends never forget and we will remember her thievery for
the rest of her stinking low-down life, and out her for the stealing, disgusting
piece of SHIT that she is.

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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by Joseph Magnuson » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:46 am

Frances Osborne " The Hoodoo Lady " is indeed a thief and tried to personally gain by using the knowledge of MANY others, often passed off as her own.

I have seen the proof with my own eyes and it saddens and maddens me.

She is not very trustworthy at all.

Shame.

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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:13 am

Frances Osborne the lying copyright thief who has stolen text from her own teacher and violated the copyrights of a dozen of her collaegues, awash in her own self-deceptions, also runs a web site called Austin Pagan where she claims to make hoodoo jar spells for clients.

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About Us

We are an online spiritual supply store in Austin, Texas specializing in candles, incense, hoodoo-style oils, herbal mixes, and tarot readings. Proprietor: Frances Osborne

CONTACT ME My secure contact form

or 512-761-0024
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Should i order one of her "Spell to Stop A Troublemaker Jar" kits and stuff a photo of her face into it or should i just get a picture of her, powder it with sulphur dust, set a black candle on it, and serve it with Florida Water Flambe'?

Whaddaya think?
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:20 am

Oh, boy, i just found another motherlode of Frances Osborne copyright theft: At her Austin Pagan site she hosts multiple pages on (and i quote):

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Wicca 101
The Wiccan Dieties
Wicca 101 Ebooks
Wicca 202
Chakras
Working with the Ancestors
Wicca 202 Ebooks
Advanced Wicca
Divination
Teach Yourself Tarot
Teach Yourself Runes
Teach Yourself Pendulums
Traditions
Asatru
Celtic
Druidry
Hoodoo
Hellenism
Hindu Wicca
Kemetic
Strega
Shamanic Wicca
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ALL of this text -- all of the material on every page -- is stolen and illegally pirated from other authors. ALL OF IT.

If you or anyone you know is a writer on any of these subjects, tell them to check out this site. Frances Osborne can be brought down and WILL be brought down by the collective anger and outrage of those she stole from and those who support true workers in thiese fields.
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:29 am

I just checked the hoodoo page at Frances Osborne's Austin Pagan site -- the entire text is an outright uncredited rip-off and stolen copy of a book by Stephanie Rose Bird, published by Llewellyn Books.

Frances Osborne is in deep, deep anxiety now, as she watches her vast swaths of stolen materials -- all published under her own name -- get correctly attributed. Look for the Austin Pagan site to come down or undergo "reorganization" (her word for it) very soon.

At her Austin Pagan site message board she just posted:

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"Need candle and prayer
IP: 173.174.125.73
Posted on November 12, 2010 at 10:24:34 AM by hoodoolady

Please, if you read this board and see this, please light
a candle and say a protection prayer for me today.
I really need it!

love and light, Hoodoolady"

Replies:
There have been no replies.
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Trouble is, Frances Osborne, God does not favour those who betray their teachers, friends, and colleagues. The phrase "There have been no replies" in that post stands as a sign to the fact that the God of Justice will not answer the prayers of a wicked thief.

And here is why:

"There's No Hiding Place Down There"
by the Carter Family
(Sarah Carter, Maybelle Carter, and A.P. Carter)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8osmxHMfRYE

Sister Mary, she wears a golden chain
Sister Mary, she wears a golden chain
Sister Mary wears a golden chain
There's every link in Jesus' name
There's no hiding place down here

There's no hiding place down here
There's no hiding place down here
Well, i run to the rocks to hide my face
And the rocks cried out, "No hiding place!"
There's no hiding place down here

I'll pitch my tent on the old campground
I'll pitch my tent on the old campground
I'll pitch my tent on the old campground
I'll give Old Satan one more round
There's no hiding place down here

There's no hiding place down here
There's no hiding place down here
Well, i run to the rocks to hide my face
And the rocks cried out, "No hiding place!"
There's no hiding place down here

Oh, the Devil wears a hypocrite shoe
The Devil wears a hypocrite shoe
The Devil wears a hypocrite shoe
And if you don't watch, he'll slip it on you
There's no hiding place down here

There's no hiding place down here
There's no hiding place down here
Well, i run to the rocks to hide my face
And the rocks cried out, "No hiding place!"
There's no hiding place down here

Amen
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by Joseph Magnuson » Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:57 am

I can't believe there is more and more surfacing. This is not right! When everything gets diluted, copied, pasted, and claimed, then who can you actually trust to have the knowledge and know how to use the knowledge that they put forth as their own. This is terrible. Shame on Frances Osborne the EXPELLED student, the copyright thief and the plagiarist. May any Devine Grace shun her work and may she be known for the fraud and phony that she is.

The spiritual world is being mined by these people who have the need to be greater, grander, holier than thou, and it is ultimately their undoing, making them smaller, weaker, and dirtied.

Shame ON Frances Osborne. Shame TO Frances Osborne. Shame FOR Frances Osborne.

"On Yahoo Groups, I am known as "Befeathered."" she says? Appropriate because she should be tarred and feathered and run outta town!

This happens all too often and should be called out and stopped whenever it is brought to light.

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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by Devi Spring » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:14 pm

If someone could please PM me her page on "Hindu Wicca" - I want to make sure that none of my writings are on that.

EDIT - it seems that the pages there on Hindu Wicca have been taken down. Also, from looking at the cache neither of the two articles were taken from my writings. So, that's good news. Just two weeks ago I had found someone that was SELLING pdfs of an article on the topic of IndoPaganism that I had written. Glad to see it wasn't happening again.
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by Joseph Magnuson » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:32 pm

Glad to see that you were not dragged into this as well Devi. The sheer magnitude of the thievery is shocking.

Who would wish this fate on themselves? Terrible business practice, terrible human interaction. Just terrible... I hope that some-how this was initially motivated by wanting to help people, but man, NOT the way to go about it at all. Getting ad revenue for a tooth whitener placed directly next to your sales list of spiritual products and services is horribly tacky at the least, sacrilegious at the worst.

This has been happening to all parts of spiritual/occult/pagan community and it's nice to see people stand up for themselves and banish this nonsense OUT!

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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:13 pm

I would just file a lawsuit and take care of her that way. Honestly, I do not think this public humiliation is going to do anything for her, as she just keeps on doing what shes known to do. I think either getting fined, and/or put in jail would serve her just nicely, and make an example of her that way.
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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:05 pm

I just found evidence of "Austin Phone Psychic" committing stregha piracy. It's been taken down but can be found via google's cache. As predicted, when stregheria is the subject, Raven Grimassi's name is found. In addition to everything else that was taken down, there is an interview with him among the missing pages.
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by karmazain » Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:42 pm

It never ceases to amaze me what people think they can get away with. Or that they think *we don't talk to each other*.... wow.

Glad it's coming down. Nice of her to put her contact info up to make it easy on y'all... (shakes head)

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:40 pm

Here are more finds, via google caches -- Frances Osborne known as Austin Phone Psychic, HoodooLady, and Austin Pagan, pirated an entire book by Gerina Dunwhich on Wicca herb magic plus a ritual by the Wicca autor Selena Fox:

[PDF]
Herbal Magick - A Witch's Guide To Herbal Folklore And Enchantments
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
Herbal. Magick. A Witch's Guide to Herbal. Folklore and Enchantments.
By. Gerina Dunwich. NEW PAGE BOOKS. A division of The Career Press, Inc. ...
austinpagan.com/herbs/herbal_magick.pdf

[PDF]
Samhain Ancestors Ritual by Selena Fox
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
Samhain Ancestors Ritual by Selena Fox.
The ritual here is presented as a personal ritual
to be done at Samhain time. It also can be ...
http://www.austinpagan.com/ancestors/se ... estors.pdf

Let's have another round of "No Hiding Place Down Here"!

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Sing it, Sister Sarah!
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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:45 pm

Here's where the Austin Phone Psychic Frances Osborne, Austin Pagan, fake "Hoodoo Lady" ripped off the writings of Raven Grimassi, the Neo-Pagan Stregheria author:

strega
The Old Ways: The Spirit Flame by Raven Grimassi. I would like to share some of the Old Hereditary Ways here, and invite others to post their techniques for ...
austinpagan.com/strega/spiritflame.htm - Cached
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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:59 pm

Another Frances Osborne, Austin Phone Psychic, HoodooLady, and Austin Pagan thievery report update:

The following google-cache snippets reveal to all the world that Frances Osborne the Austin Phone Psychic ripped off, stole, and committed gross copyright theft on the person of the elderly and genteel Raymond Buckland, a tremendously respected Wicca author.

And, to add insult to injury, The Austin Pagan then ripped off and posted a complete copy of the beloved late Wicca author Scott Cunningham's famous "Wicca: A Guide for the Solitary Practitioner'!

[PDF]
Buckland's Complete Book of Witchcraft by Raymond Buckland ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
austinpagan.com/101.../Bucklands-Complete-Book-of-Witchcraft.pdf

[PDF]
Wicca: A Guide for the Solitary Practitioner by - austin pagan
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
by B mCLUDeS AUTHOR'S - Related articles..
austinpagan.com/.../Wicca-a-Guide-for-the-Solitary-Practitioner.pdf

And, oh, looky here -- Frances Osbornethe HoodooLady and Austin Psychic uploaded a pirated copy of the complete text of Ralph Blum's "New Book of Runes!"

[PDF]
Enigma of Esoteric Nothingness
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
by R Blum - Cited by 1 - Related articles
austinpagan.com/runes/Blum-The-New-Book-of-Runes.pdf

Time to hit the "play it again" button on the Carter Family's "No Hiding Place Down Here"!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8osmxHMfRYE

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But the rocks cried out, "No hiding place!"
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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:18 am

So far google caches reveal that Frances Osborne of Austin Texas, a.k.a. TheHoodooLady, doing business as The Austin Phone Psychic and The Austin Pagan, has ripped off entire books, web pages, and excerpts of copyright protected writings by

Denise Alvarado
Chad Barber
Stephanie Rose Bird
Ralph Blum
Raymond Buckland
Scott Cunningham
Gerina Dunwich
Selena Fox
Raven Grimassi
Dr. Christos Kioni
Jacqueline Mathers
Lara Rivera
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I believe she has pirated and plagiarized the works of at least two dozen other authors, mostly in the Neo-Pagan and Wicca traditions, but i am not familiar enough with their works to identify them all.

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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:04 am

Around 10:00 pm last night i finally packed it in after locating Frances
Osborne's pirated copies of Ray Buckland's "Complete Book of Witchcraft" and
Scott Cunningham's "Wicca: A Guide for the Solitary Practitioner." Finding those
gave me a true "WTF?!" moment.

Because this all started at Frances Osborne's hoodoo-conjure web site and she
was a student of mine, i had thought that her rip-off scheme was just about
hoodoo, but then, as i found more piracy, i thought that it was about hoodoo,
Voodoo, and Santeria.

After finding Frances Osborne's Austin Pagan cache of copyright violations, i
realized that she was not so much about sharing hard-to-find or costly knowledge
as she was about being the go-to-gal ("all how-de-do smiling" as Karma Zain so
aptly put it) who had the world's largest trove of stolen books on magic.

Like i said, i gave up logging titles and authors at that point -- after having
ascertained that among the books, web pages, articles, and other excerpts of
copyright protected writings she had at her sites, one could have found
materials by

Denise Alvarado
Chad Barber
Stepjanie Rose Bird
Ralph Blum
Raymond Buckland
Scott Cunningham
Gerina Dunwich
Selena Fox
Raven Grimassi
Dr. Christos Kioni
Jacqueline Mathers
Lara Rivera
catherine yronwode

Well, Frances Osborne's Little Free Bookstore of Stolen Books has come down, and
i pray that it never rises again.

"There's no hiding place down here."
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Unread post by Dee_2 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:10 am

Wow! I can't believe anyone would be so bold!! Did she claim the work as her own too? The links were already removed when I looked at them.

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Unread post by Miss Tammie Lee » Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:48 pm

They were litterally coming down in "real time" yesterday. FAST!!!

It's all about Greed and deception for some. In addition to the writings and published works (stolen) one of the other things I saw for money drawing had THE LOGO for Lucky Mojo Money Drawing (on the oil) NOT HERS!!!...and a link to prosperity...NOT HERS!!!

I was and still am disgusted with this greedy, deceptive, rotten creature.
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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:07 pm

Dee, she de facto claimed some publications as her own by removing the names of the original authors (this is called plagiarism) -- but both on those that she falsely claimed and on other publications where she retained the author names and distributed them for free, she personally ripped off the authors, who earn their livings by selling books. The free distribution of these books appears to have been a come-on for her sales of her own wares, some of which she advertised using logos from my company, although she was not a wholesale customer of mine.

Tammie Lee -- thank you for the examples of the false use of Lucky Mojo logos -- i had no idea that she had been using our logos as well as stealing manuscripts! I was shocked by what you showed us -- that was nothing but pure greed and deception, just like you said -- and i thank you for taking the time to send the material.
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by Turnsteel » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:49 pm

Maybe I'm just young and foolish, but it boggles my mind that someone would steal from magical practitioners if they have any belief in it, seems foolish as hell. I have to assume she believes to some degree, she posted to her forum asking for people to light a candle for her. In any case I pray this matter is resolved soon, I hate seeing people get cheated like this.
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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:26 pm

Dang, i just found ANOTHER one of Frances Osborne's rip-off sites. This one is called longbefallen and it has stuff on Voodoo, including the copyright work of that is

(1) copyright 1994 N.O. Voodoo Crossroads, Severine Singh, published by Black Moon Publishing, Cincinnati, OH.

(2) copyright Peter Standring, National Geographic

(3) copyright 2002 Genevieve Garneau, "Macmillan Encyclopedia of Death and Dying"

(4) complete copyright text in pdf form of "Communicating with your Angels and Spirit Guides" by Jennifer Hoffman

(5) complete copyright text in pdf form of "A Witch's Guide to Ghosts and the Supernatural" by Gerina Dunwich

(6) complete copyright text in pdf form of "Buckland's Book of Spirit Communications" by Raymond Buckland
and much, much more.

The fact that Frances Osborne has not taken the longbefallen site down is probably due to the fact that do one has called her on it or discovered it yet. I found longbefallen via a link from one of her other sites. It is definitely her site, for, under her "hoodoolady" pseudonym, she is the administrator of the longbefallen site forum.

Please pass this around and help get Frances Osborne called on it -- someone should contact Gerina Dunwich -- this is the second site of Frances Osborne's to contain complete Gerina Dunwich books.

What a scummy person Frances Osborne is! What a foul excuse for a so-called spiritual worker.
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by cognitivedissonance » Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:42 am

Only one word for this: "ugly".

Do they not even teach literary synthesis anymore? Just think of what COULD HAVE BEEN, where she took all those books, read them, devised some sort of line between all of them, wrote her OWN theories and her OWN research, and produced something new on top of a steady foundation of preexisting thought, properly cited for the ease of future readers and their own eventual link in the chain. With all that bibliography, it could've been legendary. That's how we get new operations and new improvements in any endeavour, magical, mundane or otherwise.

That's a lot of work, I know, but it would be something to proud of instead of an embarrassment. Maybe she thought of herself as a "librarian" and didn't actually set about researching the actual level of ethics they have to have just to practice.

"Ugly".
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:42 am

cognitivedissonance, Frances Osborne used pirated books and web pages as search-engine come-ons to lead web surfers to her own commercial sites, then she also stole my label art (and very likely the art of others) to advertise her wares.

This is not "librarianship" in any sense of the word. It is more akin to a street mugging in which a criminal beats up people, steals their wallets, and then uses their credit cards to empty their bank accounts.

Ray Buckland is a 76 year old elder in Frances Osborne's own Wiccan tradititon -- and she stole bread from his mouth! i was her teacher in hoodoo -- and she stole bread from my mouth! That is the worst shame of all.

Oh, and you can add another author she has pirated: At her longbefallen site there is material reprinted without permission that is clearly marked:

* Hoodoo Mysteries by Ray Malbrough 2003 Llewellyn Publications
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:02 am

Updated list of Pagan, Wiccan, hoodoo, Santeria, and Voodoo authors whose copyright works Frances Osborne a.k.a. Austin Phone Psychic a.k.a. Austin Pagan has pirated:

Denise Alvarado
Chad Barber
Stephanie Rose Bird
Ralph Blum
Raymond Buckland
Scott Cunningham
Gerina Dunwich
Selena Fox
Genevieve Garneau
Raven Grimassi
Jennifer Hoffman
Dr. Christos Kioni
Ray Malbrough
Jacqueline Mathers
Lara Rivera
Severine Singh
Peter Standring, National Geographic
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She is:

Frances Osborne Thief
"The Hoodoo Lady" Book Pirate
"Austin Phone Psychic" Liar
3400 Stone Ridge Road
Austin TX 78746
USA
512-761-0024 Austiin Phone Psychic Thief
512-347-1705 Austin Pagan Liar
osborne35@hotmail.com
befeathered@yahoo.com
calliaste@gmail.com
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by Susan Barnes » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:18 pm

She must be nuts, oblivious and delusional to think people wouldn't find out? These things sadden and anger me. It takes a lot of hard work to write anything, much less a book and to do the research involved. Not only a thief but I would add a lazy ass one at that. She can't do her own research? Really? My Mother, Grandmother and Great-Grandmother were in the occult world and in our family thievery is a mortal sin.

A law suit takes time, money and lots of energy better spent on going forward with the plan our higher power has for us... and publicly exposing the thief and adding magical justice (That's just my opinion). But If she had done this to my mother and the other females in my family, she would be begging for a lawsuit considering the tricks my beautiful and dearly missed mother would be planting for her. Oy!
How Freudian of her to call herself, "befeathered".

I saw a show on Oprah about a writer who wrote a book that was completely plagiarized and became a best seller. Oprah totally exposed him as a thief. The weird thing, he didn't seem to think he had done anything wrong???
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by shaitan » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:21 pm

It saddings me to know that with all the effort that cat go's through to teach people who really want to learn hoodoo, this happens I want to learn, but that does not give me the right to turn on my teacher, the one person who gives me the understanding and know-how. As the saying goes what you do in the dark comes to thr light. I am sorry all of you have to go through this.

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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by Stuart Inman » Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:52 pm

I might add to all this that Frances Osborne stole the entire content of Joe Wilson's 1734 and Toteg Tribe websites, jumbling them together in a confused way as if they were the same thing and implying that she was somehow connected to these groups.

She was thrown off several Traditional Witchcraft lists and forced to take down a load of material that was either Joe's copyright or belonging to the Clan of Tubal Cain, she also had pdfs of many books in copyright, including works by people such as Andrew Chumbley.

I have seen a couple of comments elsewhere suggesting that cat had gone overboard in her attitude to Osborne, but as a fellow sufferer (having responsibility for Joe's heritage) I would say not. Stamp on the thieving bitch.

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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by ariela » Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:12 pm

wow. either she is insane or has obviously an agenda: what that is is kind of frightening to think about.

good work exposing her. there are many others, it appears, like her out there. among them a very famous singer. on another subject. did you find this out by copying and pasting or is there another way?

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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:54 pm

Stuart Inman -- thanks for posting. How despicable that Frances Osborne ripped off Joe Wilson's writing after his death.

Joseph Bearwalker Wilson was adamant about keeping control of his work, especially after the equally despicable Herman Slater had ripped him off so badly decades earlier. I liked Joe a lot and still miss him, and will always stand up to defend his original work against thieves. He was one of the earliest students who signed up to take my course -- a courtesy on his part, since he knew the work well already -- and we spent a lot of time on the phone, talking over our shared interests in spiritual traditions.

ariela, there are copy protection sites authors can sign up to that search the web looking for violators and infringers, but most of Frances Osborne's thefts were just reported and exposed by kindly friends.
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by wylde » Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:19 pm

Just an FYI this person is still at it, as you can see here
http://blog.hoodoo-conjure.com/?page_id=252
this specifically mentions you by name Cat.... guess she hasnt had enough yet...

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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by ProfessorAmes » Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:31 pm

I just checked out the site posted above, seems that she's moved on to plagiarize Judika Illes. I only looked at one of them, but the Come to Me Lover Oil formula: http://hoodoo-conjure.com/formulas/come-to-me.html is identical word for word from Judika Illes, Encyclopedia of 5,000 Spells, page 1051.
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by PrincessDrRe » Tue May 03, 2011 9:36 pm

You gotta be on a whole 'nutha level of "nutty" to jack with the teacher of rootwork.

She gonna be on mess for quite a while...and I'm just learning/observing/new.
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:19 am

Update, July 2011:

the link Wylde reported at http://www.blog.hoodoo-conjure.com/?page_id=252 is now dead:

("Not Found Apologies, but the page you requested could not be found. Perhaps searching will help.")

But still, this issue has not yet been resolved.

Frances Osborne is still stealing from other authors, and is unrepentant, truculent, and surrounded by people who are advising her to harden her stance.

She has never apologized or offered to mend her ways or rejoin the community of fair and loving pagans, occultists, and rootworkers from whom she has estranged herself. The door is always open for reconciliation and return.

Update, August 2012:

Dr. E. says she is now ripping HIM off. Dang. This bitch.

He will post details.
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by Dr_E_ » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:04 pm

Frances Osbourne has plagiarized a large portion of my Road Opener Candle Spell from my Conjure Doctor Blog. She basically took my exact text and added in scant elements to make it seem more Wicca-friendly (by adding in "God or Goddess" where I had previously written "God" etc.) Additionally, she has blocked all comments on her plagiarized content so that I cannot call her out on her theft of my intellectual copyrighted material. She also has no way to contact her on her site. Her contact form has been disabled and when you visit her website the secure form to contact her there is not functioning.

Here is the offending URL:
http://www.blog.hoodoo-conjure.com/?p=39

Here is my original article:
http://conjuredoctor.blogspot.com/searc ... er%20spell

She even called it the same damned thing. Such a pathetic lack of creativity.

This is a spell I wrote MYSELF. I didn't get this idea from anyone. It is my intellectual property. She has lifted it almost word for word from my website and is profiting from it. She is a plagiarist, a thief, but worse she is an individual who lacks all creativity and has no work ethic. Folks like Balthazar, cat, and the others mentioned in this thread all take the time to write out quality information to help others. Frances Osbourne leeches off of our hard work. She is like an intellectual tapeworm who cannot survive without a host to suck nutrition off of.

Because she has not left me a way to get a hold of her and ask her to remove her content, she is going to be the target of my curses until she removes the content and contacts me to apologize for her theft. :evil:
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by Wild at Heart » Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:28 pm

Her blog is hosted by Wordpress, you can get into contact with them on this issue:
http://en.support.wordpress.com/content ... hat-to-do/
If they are not the host, you can look it up using information listed here:
http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/stopping ... -the-host/

If Wordpress is the host, you may need to register an account with them.

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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:48 pm

Reposting from page 1 of this thread:

Frances Osborne
"The Hoodoo Lady"
3400 Stone Ridge Road
Austin TX 78746
USA
512-761-0024
512-347-1705
osborne35@hotmail.com
befeathered@yahoo.com
calliaste@gmail.com

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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by Dr_E_ » Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:10 am

I emailed Frances Osbourne about the copyright infringement and she promptly took the page down, and even apologized. Because she complied I will not be cursing her after all. I'm glad she came around.
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by saramagnuson » Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:18 am

Thought you may also want to know that she has stolen directly from posts on this forum. In her blog post from 6/18/12 about working with the Seven African Powers, she lists out the name of each spirit and then under the section titled "working" she copied directly from a LM Forum post.

Here is the link to Frances Osborne's blog post - http://www.blog.hoodoo-conjure.com/?p=46

From the LM Forum on 12/10/09, MadameKoiteh wrote this same text - working-with-the-7-african-powers-t3895.html
Get a 7-day candle with the image of the Seven African Powers. The candle is usually multicolored. Cleanse and anoint your candle as you usually do, focusing on your intent (there is also a special prayer you can recite for the Seven African Powers to protect you). For protection from an enemy or group of enemies, you write the enemy's name on a piece of paper. Place it under a glass of water. Put a white plate on top of the glass, put the candle on top of the plate, and light your candle. (Some people don't use the plate, they just set the candle next to the water.) Let it burn all the way out and you will see the results.
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:37 pm

Here is another incident:

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From: "Ms. Melanie"
Date: August 8, 2012 11:37:15 AM AKDT
To: nagasiva yronwode <nagasiva@yronwode.org>
Subject: Frances Osborne

Hey there!

It was brought to my attention that Francis Osborne has stolen more material from Miss Cat, but this time it is from the Candle and Curio shop website. Here is the address: http://www.blog.hoodoo-conjure.com/?p=86

Blessings

Ms. Melanie

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Thank you, Sara Magnuson and Ms. Melanie. Both of these pages have been taken down and the URLs are now 404 - Not Found.

I am beginning to think -- and i say this with all sincerity, and not as a way of dissing her -- that Frances Osborne is mentally ill. She keeps stealing and uploading copyrighted texts, even though she is continually told it is an illegal and criminal activity to do so, and, when caught, she must remove them.

I know it sounds like i am trying to make a joke, but i am not: Frances Osborne may suffer from some form of intellectual-property kleptomania and be unable to control herself.

Frances Osborne is known to the thousands of readers of this forum as a student of mine whom i expelled because she stole my texts and the texts of my friends and colleagues and posted them online. Her reputation in the conjure and hoodoo community, as well as in the Pagan and Santeria communities, has been destroyed, and people watch her like a hawk, reporting her thefts of text materials here and in other places. And she keeps on stealing.

But it gets worse: Frances Osborne is also listed online as a licensed professional day care provider for children

http://www.doodledays.com/index.php?opt ... id=5422377

FRANCES OSBORNE
Address: 3400 STONERIDGE RD
State: TX
County: TRAVIS
City: AUSTIN
Zip: 78746
Phone: (512) 468-9562
Services: LISTED HOME
Licensed: Y

Additionally, she is a board member and the treasurer of her local Unitarian Universalist church, Wildflower Church in Austin, Texas.

http://www.wildflowerchurch.org/userfil ... 202012.pdf
http://www.wildflowerchurch.org/userfil ... 202012.pdf
(see google for a more extensive list of URLs)

The Unitarian Universalist church treasurer Frances Osborne is the same woman as the "Austin Pagan" / "Hoodoo Lady" Frances Osborne who is pirating Rayond Buckland texts, as can be told not only by her location in Austin,Texas, but because in the various Wildflower Church bulletins and board minutes, her emails are provided, and they match. ("contact Frances Osborne osborne35@hotmail.com" and "contact Frances Osborne, befeathered@yahoo.com")

She is also supportive of, if not openly a member of, the 12-Step Recovery program community, that is, Alcoholics Anonymous, Narcotics Anonymous, and similar groups for people dealing with substance abuse, behaviour addiction, and so forth.

In particular, she has uploaded posts about the important 4th step (taking a Moral Inventory), as part of her larger "Pagans in Recovery" web-hub:

http://austinpagan.com/recovery/index.html ("The 7/12 Recovery Ministry offers friendship and support to all Wildflower UU Church congregants who have personally experienced substance or behavioral addiction or connect to this experience as a loved one. We follow a meeting format similar to 12-Step meetings, adapted for Unitarian Universalists, which emphasizes welcome, confidentiality, and supportive fellowship.")

Obviously both her career as a day care provider and her standing in her own church will be heavily impacted by the continual PUBLIC complaints against her by the publishers and authors whose works she repeatedly has illegally copied and posted online.

I have known about her day care license and her respected role in Wildflower Church for two years and have never posted the information, hoping each time that she would see how, when she gets caught — and she always gets caught — she will have to take the texts down, again and again. I did not want to be seen to be leading a campaign of vengeance against her. In fact, the reason i chose the Carter Family song "There's No Hiding Place Down Here" to bring to her attention was because in the second verse the the lyrics say to "give old Satan one more round" (another chance at salvation) and in the last verse there is a warning that "the devil wears a hypocrite shoe and if you don't watch, he'll slip it on you" (that is, i know that she presents to the world as a churchly person but her law-breaking brands her as a hypocrite). I thought she would be able to read between the lines and would see that persisting in pirating and uploading copyright-protected texts would lead to more serious "outing" and therefore to potentially more serious consequences.

But despite the public shaming and the sheer amount of wasted energy she spends in the task of stealing and uploading the thefts and then removing them, her text-thefts and her subsequent forced removals of the stolen texts when she is caught have been going on continually for TWO YEARS now.

“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -- Albert Einstein

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Sister Mary, she wears a golden chain
Sister Mary wears a golden chain
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There's no hiding place down here

There's no hiding place down here
There's no hiding place down here
Well, i run to the rocks to hide my face
And the rocks cried out, "No hiding place!"
There's no hiding place down here

I'll pitch my tent on the old campground
I'll pitch my tent on the old campground
I'll pitch my tent on the old campground
I'll give Old Satan one more round
There's no hiding place down here

There's no hiding place down here
There's no hiding place down here
Well, i run to the rocks to hide my face
And the rocks cried out, "No hiding place!"
There's no hiding place down here

Oh, the Devil wears a hypocrite shoe
The Devil wears a hypocrite shoe
The Devil wears a hypocrite shoe
And if you don't watch, he'll slip it on you
There's no hiding place down here

There's no hiding place down here
There's no hiding place down here
Well, i run to the rocks to hide my face
And the rocks cried out, "No hiding place!"
There's no hiding place down here

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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by Miss Tammie Lee » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:11 pm

Oh, just MAD. I had the feeling this was not the end.

You know what, Time stops for no one. Even better, I am vary patient person when it comes to some things.

Waiting just like a spider, it will all come to a halt.
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Unread post by saramagnuson » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:49 pm

What really astounds me the most about her and all of this is how easy it would be for her to remedy the situation. I know this from my own experience with my genealogy blog - I don't make footnotes with extensive citations, but I do put a section at the end called 'brief notes on sources' and list out the collections I accessed. That way, anyone could google the collection I listed and also find the information for themselves. This is a basic principle of research, no matter what kind.

Cat - I have thought a lot the past two days about emailing her directly. I want to let her know that all she needs to start doing is putting a link to the website she got the information from or note the author and title of the book. This is really very easy and I kind of want to ask her WHY doesn't she just do that? It would make all her problems go away. I can only think that she doesn't note her sources because she wants people to think that it's her work and writing, but in her yahoo group she openly mentions that the information has come from other people on the web. Do you think it's worth sending such an email?

This is the kind of frustrating stuff that makes me want to go yell from the top of a mountain!
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Unread post by Miss Tammie Lee » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:56 pm

Sara, great idea, but this crap with this woman has been going on far to long. I'm sure your remedy is a great one, it is a wonderful great share and a blessed idea for the right person who is willing to comply.

She has had more than one instance to adhere to professional ethics.
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Unread post by saramagnuson » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:06 pm

Agreed Miss Tammie Lee. Mostly, I'm just curious to know what her response would be to asking why she doesn't do something that's so easy. I don't think I'm going to change her mind, but I genuinely want to know the reasoning she has behind NOT noting the sources of her information.

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Unread post by Miss Tammie Lee » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:13 pm

Sara you are right and kind.
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by Dr_E_ » Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:31 pm

So apparently Frances Osborne did take down her blog entry but then kept the content in a downloadable file that she now has available for everyone on her yahoo group to download. She even had the audacity in her yahoo group to place the blame on my shoulders saying that it was her content and apparently I thought it was "too similar" to hers.

She is either suffering from some type of vision ailment and is unable to see that there are whole paragraphs of directly copied information from my blog, or she is "a bit touched" as they say in the south.

In classic form she is vilifying me for standing up for my LEGAL RIGHTS TO OUR OWN INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY and says that people should look out for those associated with Lucky Mojo.

Frances Osborne - to be VERY clear with you:

I asked you nicely to not use my copyrighted materials. You took them off of your website and put them in downloadable files on your yahoo group.

You have not complied with the law and are still using my content without permission. You are still in violation of copyright law. Yes I threatened to curse you for using my content, and you know what? I am going to curse you after all. You clearly don't want to operate within the limits of the law, you have no respect for the hard work of others and you think you can just take our own intellectual property and use it for whatever deluded things you have.

Frances Osborne is a thief.
Frances Osborne steals the writings of others for her own benefit.
Frances Osborne is deluding herself in thinking that the authors are the bad guys when we make her take down our copyrighted materials.
There is NO excuse for Frances Osborne's continuing flaunting of the law and disrespect of others.

I am going to teach her a painful lesson. I am going to curse Frances Osborne after all. Your rootwork isn't going to help you take this one off, baby.
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:36 am

Sara, there is a difference between plagiarism and copyright violation.

She is doing BOTH, but not always at the same time.

Copyright law gives the creator the sole right to copy (the copy right) and no one else can get that right from them except under license or by permission. Copyright violation is when she copies a text that she has no right to copy, with or without proper attribution of authorship.

It is standard practice (but not a legal requirement) to affix a copyright notice to a text. The copyright notice consists of a special mark (a small letter "c" within a circle or paired parentheses), a year-date, and the name of the person or legal entity whose sole right it is to copy the material or to grant a license or give permission to another entity to copy it. A subsidiary notice stating that the right to copy is being held or "reserved" by the named person or entity is often added, and it may include mention of specific forms of reproduction (copying) that are not allowed. This notice is not a legal necessity, but has a long tradition of use. A typical copyright notice looks like this:

(c) 2012 catherine yronwode. All rights reserved.

Plagiarism is a lesser included offense within copyright violation. Plagiarism is when she copies someone else's text or lightly "edits" it and places her name on it, pretending to be the author.

She may also on occasion engage in copyright fraud, by plagiarizing a text and then falsely affixing to it a copyright notice it in her own name. This shows definite mal-intent and can carry heavier penalties than mere plagiarism.

So, to summarize, sometimes she plagiarizes (falsely claims credit), sometimes she affixes fraudulent copyright notices to the material of other authors, and sometimes she gives credit to the author -- but giving credit does not matter because she has already infringed upon the author's sole right to copy (the copy right) by stealing the text and copying it at her site. In all three cases she has stolen the reserved right of reproduction of the text. That's against the law, and seriously so.

It would not be "easy" for her to satisfy copyright law by the means you indicated, because she is copying and distributing entire books verbatim, not just a "fair use" line or two here or there. To actually abide by the law, she would have to both stop plagiarizng and stop copying.

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Unread post by nana664 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:56 am

What this person is doing to you is so disgusting, and sad. I hope you all get justice soon, and that she gets what she deserves.
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Unread post by GoodLuckNatalie » Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:05 am

After reading Dr. E's post mentioning yahoo groups, I thought: hmm I'd better make sure I'm not in any of her groups.

I checked - I belong to a yahoo group that appears to be run by her. I'm not sure how to tell who the admin is, but "befeathered" is the person who uploaded "Free Hoodoo Lessons" in 2010 to the texas_hoodoo yahoo group.

yahoo group: texas_hoodoo

In the links is an entire page dedicated to cat (not in a nice way), and then there are two links to Dr. E - the conjuredoctor and conjuredoctor.blogspot sites - which makes it appear as though the group is somewhat friendly toward LM.

Anyway, will be quitting the group now.
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:46 am

Updated list of Pagan, Wiccan, hoodoo, Santeria, and Voodoo authors whose copyright works Frances Osborne a.k.a. Austin Phone Psychic a.k.a. Austin Pagan has pirated:

Denise Alvarado
Chad Barber
Stephanie Rose Bird
Ralph Blum
Raymond Buckland
Scott Cunningham
Gerina Dunwich
Dr. E.
Selena Fox
Genevieve Garneau
Raven Grimassi
Jennifer Hoffman
Judika Iles
Dr. Christos Kioni
Ray Malbrough
Jacqueline Mathers
Lara Rivera
Severine Singh
Peter Standring, National Geographic
Joseph Bearwalker Wilson
catherine yronwode

She is:

Frances Osborne Thief
"The Hoodoo Lady" Book Pirate
"Austin Phone Psychic" Liar
3400 Stone Ridge Road
Austin TX 78746
USA
512-761-0024 Austiin Phone Psychic Thief
512-347-1705 Austin Pagan Liar
osborne35@hotmail.com
befeathered@yahoo.com
calliaste@gmail.com
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by Joseph Magnuson » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:22 pm

Some people will never learn and do not want to change.
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Direct Copy of Info from HRCC

Unread post by aura » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:41 am

Hi Miss Cat,

doing some research on spiritual bathing I came upon the following web page that had a direct page of baths from the HRCC book, un-referenced: http://hoodoo-conjure.com/recipes/bath-recipes.htm

There are also referenced quotes from Leah Rivera's site, although I don't know if she allowed it.

It felt off so I thought I'd report it.
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:04 pm

Thanks, Aura.

It's Frances Osborne again. I merged your post into the Frances Osborne topic thread, You can tell it's her because she offers tarot readings and when you click the "buy it now" button, her name comes up.

She does this every few years. She apologized once and said she would not do it again.

She's doing it again.

It will take some time to get all of the copyright infringements taken down again, but nagasiva and i will persist until they are removed.

We may have to shame her through her public reputation in her church again.

We may have to shame her in front of her pagan friends again.

We may have to threaten a lawsuit against her and her internet service provider.

We may have to approach Paypal with a complaint and ask them to stop accepting payments at her site, since the site consists of copyright violations and she has done this so often.

Whatever steps we take, we know that the law is on our side -- and by "our," i mean all of us whose copyrights she is violating -- and we will prevail.

Those of you who know Frances Osborne, please try to get her to stop again. She is destroying herself and her own reputation on the internet, in Texas, and in her home town.

Her behaviour is so self-defeating and self-wounding that it seems to be mentally unbalanced. I say this because no one of normal logical perceptiveness would violate a group people's copyrights over and over and over again, knowing that each time she does it she will be brought before the public as a law-breaker, and further records of her offenses will appear online.

I note with sadness that i, alas, remain the center of Frances Osborne's bizarre fantasy life, in which she imagnes herself to be a hoodoo practitioner. This time her copyright infringement site bears the tagline, "How Lucky is Your Mojo?" That's pathetic.

Frances Osborne, please, please, get help.
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by Joseph Magnuson » Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:03 am

I have started to notice, just recently, that she has decided to reemerge and start chatting in groups, and with people, on Facebook. She constantly claims that she is a victim, while continuously choosing the path of fakery, plagiarism, and a lazy disregard for others hard work and research. Truly a pathetic human being.
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by Susan Barnes » Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:21 pm

Joseph, I saw it too. I joined a group on Facebook and she "welcomed" me into the group.
I got out of the group because of her hideous reputation.
She has a weird obsession with Cat.
I do know for a fact that she has been cursed by someone very powerful, this person has taken down extremely wealthy people and a big time celebrity.
On top of that, a Dr. E.curse!!
She's dammed for a long long time.
It looks to me like the curses have begun to take. She is going mad.
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by Frank Owen » Sun May 25, 2014 9:43 am

I am glad this thread is up, thank you for the heads up.
Susan, do you know which Facebook group was the one
she welcomed you in?

Reason: curious

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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by SaintsCrossing » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:32 pm

She has resurfaced again. She is now one of the administrators for a group called "Hoodoo Arts" on Facebook. The group has over 2000 members. https://www.facebook.com/groups/hoodooarts/

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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by Miss Aida » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:46 pm

Thank you, ,

I will notify Miss cat and Nagasiva right away.

Thank you so much
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Re: Frances Osborne HRCC Student Expelled Copyright Thief

Unread post by AlyssaH » Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:46 pm

Oh my G-O-S-H, I just left that group! I knew there was something off about it. There are some nice people, but I found I was doing more educating, than learning, & the admins kept trash talking Lucky Mojo. Like a few other people would discuss some LM products w/ me, or I'd link the HITAP for somebody requesting more knowledge & one of the admins would always have something negative to say. Glad I left it now!
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