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TNYKS CHAT LOG Candelo Kimbisa and Ancestors, 2017

Unread post by nagasiva » Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:03 pm

Tonight on a brand new The Now You Know Show
Episode 95: Special Guest Candelo Kimbisa on Ancestors
on the LMC Radio Network is airing on 04/20/17
at 9pm EST / 6pm PST

See the details and set a reminder at: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/lmcradione ... -ancestors

An exciting variety broadcast that covers all things hoodoo, rootwork, and conjure. Tonight we have our special guest Candelo Kimbisa from AIRR and Candelo’s Corner visit us to talk about all matters involving Ancestors.

"From deep in the heart of Texas, where the stars at night are big and bright, comes The Now You Know Show, with Prof. Charles Porterfield, here to tell it like it was and how it is, to help school ya, so no one can fool ya!

Tune in or call in at (323) 642-1214 and learn valuable lessons about the practice of hoodoo, conjure, and throwing roots with a skilled practitioner who brings a lifetime of experience to the task of teaching newbies and entertaining old-time practitioners alike.

Professor Porterfield is a talented rootworker, a dedicated founding member of AIRR, a gifted reader, and one of our dearest friends. We are proud to sponsor him in this new adventure.

At Professor Porterfield's TheNowYouKnowShow.com web site, you can find updates and information on the show -- or, to access episodes directly, just go to The Now You Know Show at Blog Talk Radio.

*** (20:43:22):Welcome to the the LMC Radio Network Chat Room.

2017-04-20 20:43:39 ChristyXP LOL miss cat
2017-04-20 20:43:43 catherine yronwode Hint: not as old as you think. Listen, it's a double-miked electrical recording.
2017-04-20 20:45:11 Voyd sorry?
2017-04-20 20:45:16 Voyd did you say something?#
2017-04-20 20:45:35 catherine yronwode He's back in the studio and out of the field.
2017-04-20 20:45:38 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Buddy Moss
2017-04-20 20:45:45 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Undertaker Blues
2017-04-20 20:48:08 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti http://www.readersandrootworkers.org
2017-04-20 20:48:21 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti https://www.facebook.com/CandelosCornerRadio/
2017-04-20 20:48:27 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti http://www.kimbisa.org
2017-04-20 20:49:03 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti http://hoodoopsychics.com/ EXT 1362
2017-04-20 20:51:28 catherine yronwode Candelo is right -- this whole ""ancestors"" thing is a NEW TREND via the internet. Existed long ago, of course, but now folks who never had this in their culture are doing it.
2017-04-20 20:52:01 catherine yronwode Candelo is a peace maker, but he is a truth-teller.
2017-04-20 20:52:18 catherine yronwode Are ancestors formed only by blood? CK: No.
2017-04-20 20:52:46 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Kimberly
2017-04-20 20:53:15 loyal stranger I have been wondering about this a lot because I do not know my biological father. However, I do know who he is and names of his/my ancestors. So I've been including them in my altar/veneration and wasn't sure if they'd
2017-04-20 20:53:27 loyal stranger really want me to or not because I was kind of/sort of an affair baby...
2017-04-20 20:55:45 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti If this spirit is calling to you, what is your responsibility?
2017-04-20 20:55:58 catherine yronwode CK: ""f you give a non DNA-ancestor spirit love and attention, why would it not return the love?""
2017-04-20 20:56:14 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Cultural respect.
2017-04-20 20:56:32 catherine yronwode PP: What's the difference between just TAKING and forming a relationship? What is your responsibility?""
2017-04-20 20:56:56 catherine yronwode The Return of the Mammy Cookie Jar. LOL!
2017-04-20 20:57:06 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Conversation, communication, with the people who are part of the culture.
2017-04-20 20:57:15 catherine yronwode CK ""Meet and have conversations with people of the spirit's culture.""
2017-04-20 20:57:39 catherine yronwode CK: ""Culturally respect the people.""
2017-04-20 20:57:48 Lynna Albert I have to go pick up baby girl.... I will catch you in the archives.... Awesome show so far!! Thank you :)
2017-04-20 20:57:58 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Avoiding exploitation, abuse.
2017-04-20 20:58:31 catherine yronwode CK: ""I have no North Amercian Native American people in my family, but i have Taino and Arawak, but in North America, the first spirits i speak to are the spirits of the land, the Seminole, Cherokee...""
2017-04-20 20:59:11 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Involve oneself in the day-to-day struggles of the peoples of the culture as an ally.
2017-04-20 20:59:36 loyal stranger I love that!
2017-04-20 21:00:12 catherine yronwode PP: ""You also have a responsibility to involve yourself in the daily struggles of their DESCENDANTS.""
2017-04-20 21:01:16 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti And not included in this advert was Wed On Sacred Ground.
2017-04-20 21:01:52 Candelos Corner Radio da,mn lol
2017-04-20 21:02:52 the LMC Radio Network :D
2017-04-20 21:03:52 catherine yronwode No Name it and CLaim It entrants?
2017-04-20 21:04:06 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti I'm excluded, since i'm setting them up. :D
2017-04-20 21:04:07 catherine yronwode Nice later music (not my era.)
2017-04-20 21:04:06 the LMC Radio Network Troll knows so he's being good :D
2017-04-20 21:04:16 ChristyXP Steely Dan
2017-04-20 21:04:24 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti But i would have known by the sound.
2017-04-20 21:04:50 catherine yronwode Oh, so it's not Jimmy Lee Higgins and the Flaming Troll Dancers with ""Daddy Can't Drink in New York City No More""???
2017-04-20 21:04:52 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti (the group)
2017-04-20 21:05:03 ChristyXP LOL
2017-04-20 21:05:19 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Brownies!!
2017-04-20 21:05:23 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti (F)
2017-04-20 21:05:42 ChristyXP yay brownie! that's an acceptable substitute
2017-04-20 21:06:22 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti profporterfield@gmail.com
2017-04-20 21:06:37 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Sheryl
2017-04-20 21:06:40 catherine yronwode That's the actual name of the song? For real?
2017-04-20 21:06:59 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Are they who they were in life?
2017-04-20 21:07:16 catherine yronwode I won a brownie for that totally random guess?
2017-04-20 21:07:18 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti catherine, no comment.
2017-04-20 21:07:43 catherine yronwode LOL!
2017-04-20 21:07:46 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti The Professor is the one who ought to know.
2017-04-20 21:07:59 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti :D
2017-04-20 21:08:26 catherine yronwode Q: ""Are they who they were in life?"" CK: ""Spirit takes a while to comprehend how to turn into teachers.""
2017-04-20 21:08:48 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Do you relate differently to the spirit than you would have to the individual when they were living?
2017-04-20 21:09:21 catherine yronwode CK: ""There's a certain time, they either expand or become enlightened, and there are different realms or planes of existence in the spirit realm.""
2017-04-20 21:09:55 catherine yronwode Q: ""Do you relate differely to the spirit than you would have to a person when you knew her when she was alive."" CK: ""Of course.""
2017-04-20 21:10:13 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti CK: It takes a while before they get used to their situation.""
2017-04-20 21:10:49 catherine yronwode You would speak to her the same way.... but if Big Mama was an alcoholic, don't offer her alcohol. If she died of smoking cigarettes, don't put cigars up there.
2017-04-20 21:11:51 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Sheryl and 3 or 4 other people.
2017-04-20 21:12:08 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti If there are, what are the dangers of working with the ancestors?
2017-04-20 21:13:49 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti CK: ""Ill-will isn't really connected with the ancestors. They're helpers."" He doesn't think so. The dangers are how you're going to use them.
2017-04-20 21:13:51 frank rising good points
2017-04-20 21:14:26 loyal stranger What if the particular ancestor also disliked/had problems with the person you are cursing/crossing/hexing/jinxing, etc?
2017-04-20 21:14:37 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Since working with her grandmother, found her kitchen in disarray.
2017-04-20 21:15:02 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Getting slap-back from grandma.
2017-04-20 21:15:53 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Denise
2017-04-20 21:16:06 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti She had placed her ancestral altar in her kitchen.
2017-04-20 21:16:20 catherine yronwode Gandma needs to know that she's dead.
2017-04-20 21:16:45 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti CK: Put your ancestor altar somewhere where it is neutral.""
2017-04-20 21:17:17 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Cracked plate
2017-04-20 21:17:49 catherine yronwode Keep ancestors in a neutral place, not hot, not in the bedroom, not where people are getting drunk.
2017-04-20 21:17:52 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Chipped cup.
2017-04-20 21:18:40 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti http://www.facebook.com/luckymojocurioco
2017-04-20 21:18:45 catherine yronwode I still bury all chipped and cracked plates. I never throw them out.
2017-04-20 21:21:01 frank rising Ethnicity creates stunbling blocks for some folks with dealing with Ancestry
2017-04-20 21:21:51 catherine yronwode CK: ""Get your DNA tested!""
2017-04-20 21:22:06 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Paul
2017-04-20 21:22:11 frank rising Much more affordable than in the past
2017-04-20 21:22:27 catherine yronwode CK: ""Two ancestors -- one had her foot on the other one's neck!""
2017-04-20 21:22:41 catherine yronwode CK: Due to a rape!
2017-04-20 21:22:42 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Is it 'cord' or 'court'? Heard both, are both correct or one of them? (Ancestral cord/court)
2017-04-20 21:22:58 catherine yronwode Court.
2017-04-20 21:23:21 Voyd a chord, perhaps
2017-04-20 21:23:23 catherine yronwode Question by Paul.
2017-04-20 21:23:36 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti The gang
2017-04-20 21:23:40 catherine yronwode Cord. The DNA strands.
2017-04-20 21:23:53 catherine yronwode Court those who surround and support you.""
2017-04-20 21:24:04 catherine yronwode Different denominations of Spiritualism.
2017-04-20 21:24:13 catherine yronwode Use different terms.
2017-04-20 21:24:35 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti I have limited space, don't have a very big home, living in someone else's house. Can I have my ancestor altar in my bedroom given that my ancestors were living in one room dwellings?
2017-04-20 21:25:38 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Separate by cover or sectioned.
2017-04-20 21:27:13 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Sheryl: ""Do we receive blessings by working with our ancestors?""
2017-04-20 21:28:59 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Is it beneficial just by doing it (like exercise)?
2017-04-20 21:31:07 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti ::begins to cut up the brownies::
2017-04-20 21:32:20 catherine yronwode Oh, the guy who did that ""wooo-wooo""
2017-04-20 21:32:36 catherine yronwode He recorded ""Louise""????
2017-04-20 21:32:50 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti ({)
2017-04-20 21:33:37 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Andrew Smokey Hogg with Family Trouble Blues
2017-04-20 21:33:55 catherine yronwode Yeah, ""walked all the way to the gulf of Mexico."" That guy.
2017-04-20 21:34:12 catherine yronwode Another electrical recording. post -1934...
2017-04-20 21:34:24 frank rising Good to be back here even if late due to tech issues here.
2017-04-20 21:34:47 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Dennis
2017-04-20 21:34:48 catherine yronwode Andrew Smokey Hogg with the ""Family Trouble Blues.""
2017-04-20 21:35:04 catherine yronwode Hello, Frank!
2017-04-20 21:35:16 frank rising Hi MIss Cat!
2017-04-20 21:35:17 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Bar Mitzva, Bat Mitzva
2017-04-20 21:35:27 catherine yronwode Dennis asks about young people becoming involved in spiritual work...
2017-04-20 21:36:01 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti In terms of ancestral veneration, can children engage in it? If not, at what age does it become appropriate to start doing that?
2017-04-20 21:36:16 catherine yronwode The age of puberty marks the keeping of mizvahs in Judaism.
2017-04-20 21:36:31 frank rising Children have not been infected by society?
2017-04-20 21:36:49 catherine yronwode So should children go to the ancestral alte? And if not, at age could they?""
2017-04-20 21:37:14 catherine yronwode CK: ""I have seen children sit at the altar and leave offerings and dance.""
2017-04-20 21:37:17 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti I've known religion forbidden from children and pushed upon them.
2017-04-20 21:37:39 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Their interest seemed important in many instances.
2017-04-20 21:38:01 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Her favourite tea or cookie.
2017-04-20 21:38:11 catherine yronwode CK: ""I would not push anybody into any of these spiritual paths. I've seen things happen, but I cannot answer that question.""
2017-04-20 21:38:35 catherine yronwode CK: ""If they want to, let them.""
2017-04-20 21:38:39 frank rising my Momma loves the cinnamon candies
2017-04-20 21:38:56 catherine yronwode And, Prof -- do recall, there is a place for children at Pesach. The hidden matzoh.
2017-04-20 21:39:10 catherine yronwode Also children light the candles, often.
2017-04-20 21:39:14 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Yes, the Hidden Matzo!
2017-04-20 21:39:47 frank rising I love these traditions
2017-04-20 21:39:54 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Youngest person in the room, at the table, asks the Four Questions.
2017-04-20 21:40:19 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Find the Hidden Matza!
2017-04-20 21:40:53 catherine yronwode The 4 questions are to be asked by the youngest person.
2017-04-20 21:41:31 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti I've also seen 'youngest willing to do the question asking'. If youngsters are shy, they may pass on to next elder child.
2017-04-20 21:42:00 frank rising I have seen the results of that in the Hispanic community with La Santisma Muerte
2017-04-20 21:42:07 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Flexibility and spirituality.
2017-04-20 21:42:26 frank rising the forced relious practice and the backlash
2017-04-20 21:42:35 catherine yronwode Yes, and i will always remember a young girl who was J-u-s-t old enough to read, areading from the Haggadah about ""the Four Rabbits."" (should have been Rabbis) and we were all trying not to laugh.
2017-04-20 21:43:03 catherine yronwode I made a drawing of The Four Rabbits....
2017-04-20 21:43:10 frank rising awww
2017-04-20 21:43:13 Voyd religion is a choise
2017-04-20 21:43:31 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Stephanie
2017-04-20 21:44:10 frank rising amen
2017-04-20 21:45:27 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Professor: ""It is often the matriarch who holds the family together.""
2017-04-20 21:45:44 frank rising it is my female cousin who is doing te bulk of our entire family tree.
2017-04-20 21:45:51 catherine yronwode CK: ""Women are often better Spiritualists than men.""
2017-04-20 21:46:04 frank rising and thats a fact
2017-04-20 21:46:47 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Stephanie: ""In life, her mother favoured her sister over her. Can she now go and place Mama on the ancestral altar? Is it for her to do, or is it for her sister to do?""
2017-04-20 21:47:08 Voyd 'are often' being the operative phrase
2017-04-20 21:47:52 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti April
2017-04-20 21:48:56 frank rising Great question
2017-04-20 21:49:40 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti April comes from a background of (many types of) abuse. April wants to engage in ancestor veneration (mantlepiece, coffee). How does she keep the monstrous individuals away from her ancestral altar? Can you? She has no desire to forgive them.
2017-04-20 21:50:40 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Putting up guardians up.
2017-04-20 21:51:32 frank rising Thank You Candelo
2017-04-20 21:51:50 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Cross, Kosher Salt, Egg, Psalms (123?)
2017-04-20 21:52:09 the LMC Radio Network Psalm 91 and 23
2017-04-20 21:52:15 frank rising Psalm 91 as well
2017-04-20 21:52:19 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Thank you.
2017-04-20 21:53:40 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Go to a mass and steal it. Steal the mass for the person. Alms coming around, leave.
2017-04-20 21:54:37 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Guardian angels
2017-04-20 21:55:01 frank rising This is the next book for next years festival Miss Cat....ANCESTORS
2017-04-20 21:55:25 Voyd The Dearly Departed
2017-04-20 21:55:44 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti http://www.kimbisa.org
2017-04-20 21:55:55 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti http://www.hoodoopsychics.com
2017-04-20 21:56:50 gabrielle swain looking forward to seein you Candello.
2017-04-20 21:57:05 gabrielle swain Thanks for all you do Troll.
2017-04-20 21:57:32 frank rising Troll is the man!
2017-04-20 21:57:34 catherine yronwode You do not need to work with harmful ancestors. In an ATR, your elders will help you. If you are a Spiritualist, use Psalms 91 and guardian angels.
2017-04-20 21:57:44 catherine yronwode Thank you, Troll!
2017-04-20 21:58:15 Candelos Corner Radio love y'all !!
2017-04-20 21:58:17 frank rising I hear the whistle and I autoatically wait for the key change.....
2017-04-20 21:58:17 the LMC Radio Network My great thanks to our guest Candelo Kimbisa and 'the man with the plan' Troll Towelhead!
2017-04-20 21:58:24 Candelos Corner Radio (L)
2017-04-20 21:58:36 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Cue the flute !!!!
2017-04-20 21:58:39 frank rising Thank s folks, good to see you all.
2017-04-20 21:58:36 the LMC Radio Network and thank you all for joining us here each and every week
2017-04-20 21:58:41 Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti What a wonderful show!
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Re: TNYKS CHAT LOG Candelo Kimbisa and Ancestors, 2017

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:19 am

Thanks for posting this.
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