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Astrological Remediation: Questions and Answers

Unread postby K54 » Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:40 pm

Hi Miss Cat
In a 2005 LM podcast, you had made a statement that a rootworker must inform a client who has Venus square Mars, that he or she cannot help them with Hoodoo, and they must seek "Astrological Remediation (something I have done btw to no avail)". Is this still your opinion? If so, could you possibly elucidate on the reasons that this is so?
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Re: Venus Square Mars; Astrological Remediation

Unread postby catherineyronwode » Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:45 pm

I'm not sure i said that exactly the way you are quoting it, because many root doctors don't know or care about astrology, so they wouldn't know if a client had Venus Square Mars and thus i wouldn;t say that they "must" tell a client if it shows up on a natal chart -- but, speaking as both a rootworker and an astrologer myself, i think that this is an INBORN condition that is not going to be easily fixed with conjure work. That's why i recommend astrological remediation. Now, you say you have tried astrological remediation to no avail, and i am sorry to hear that. There, in a nutshell, is the problem with Venus Square Mars -- it is a tough nut to crack. This being a hoodoo board, however, i do not wish to spend time on the astrological end of things, so i would like to wis you good luck, because that's all i can do here.
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Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby maduro01 » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:18 pm

Does magic have more of an influence over one sign than another?

Is there a difference in how you should cast spells on one sign rather than others?

Meaning, does it make a difference that the person you are performing love magic on is a Leo vs. Capricorn vs. Scorpio vs. Gemini, etc?
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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby Literarylioness » Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:08 pm

maduro01,

No. However, you can strengthen a spell by adding astrological spiritual supplies keyed to the persons you are trying to affect.

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Planetary products vs. Astro Sign products

Unread postby IBube » Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:51 am

Hello friends,

Can someone talk about the difference between planetary oils, incense, satchet powders, etc and astrological products? For example, is there a difference between using a Leo oil and Sun oil, since Leo is ruled by the Sun? Or Cancer oil and Moon oil, since the moon rules Cancer? How are these products different and when would you use one instead of the other? Thanks so much!


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Re: Planetary products vs. Astro Sign products

Unread postby ConjureMan Ali » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:43 pm

Zodiac products are used by some for astral candles. These candles are used to represent people. To read more about it you can read the Master Book of Candle Burning by Gamache and The Magic Candle by Charmaine Dey.

Planetary products are specifically about working with those planetary energies.

Here's an example: if you want to work a moving candle between a Gemini and a Leo then you can set up Astral candles for the Gemini and the Leo while working a moving candle spell. This can help "tune" the spellwork on to your targets.

If however you feel like you need to stimulate conversation between two people you can turn to Mercury oil.

Hope that clarifies.

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BOO-GRI-MCCD Book Spellcraft The Magic Candle by Charmaine Dey $7.00
BOO-GRI-MSCB Book Spellcraft Master Book of Candle Burning by Henri Gamache $7.50
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Re: Planetary products vs. Astro Sign products

Unread postby catherineyronwode » Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:26 pm

Also see these two web pages:

Lucky Mojo Planetary Spiritual Supplies:
http://luckymojo.com/planetary.html

Lucky Mojo Zodiacal Spiritual Supplies:
http://luckymojo.com/zodiacal.html
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Pisces astral colors?

Unread postby IBube » Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:32 am

Dear Friends,

I have been using the Master Book of Candle Burning for a year now, and it says that the primary astral color for Pisces is pink. I'd never heard of pink being one of the Pisces colors before this. I've been using pink, but I don't feel a very strong vibration from this color. Are there other astral colors for Pisces in the hoodoo tradition? Please help!
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Re: Pisces astral colors?

Unread postby Miss Bri » Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:23 am

Blues, aqua greens, and purples as Pisces is a water sign. My husband is a pisces and we often use light blue candles for him which work quite well.

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Re: Pisces astral colors?

Unread postby DrXTheRebirth » Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:37 pm

As a fellow Pisces I agree with Bri. Blues have a good vibe with our energies.
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Re: Pisces astral colors?

Unread postby catherineyronwode » Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:15 pm

There are basically three systems of assigning colour symbolism to the signs of the zodiac:

1) The colours suggested by the elements (earth, air, fire, and water) associated with each sign. Examples: blues and greens for all three water signs, browns and tans for all three earth signs.

2) The colours suggested by the colours that have been chosen to symbolize the planets that rule each sign. Examples: Venus is green and Vnus rules both Taurus and Libra, hence both shoud be green.

3) The zodiac, taken as a whole, can be correlated to a chromatic colour wheel. Examples: Aries is red, Taurus is red-orange, Gemini is orange.

Using these systems in combination, the colours for Taurus are brown, green, and red-orange and for Pisces they are blue, purple, and magenta. Gamache's use of pink was a way of toning down magenta to a paler shade.
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Astrological Remediation: Questions and Answers

Unread postby heartexalted » Sat May 04, 2013 10:37 am

Hey, I was wondering if I could get some input on some basic astrological remediation ideas. When I was on the radio show a few weeks earlier, I was advised to make an astrological talisman from an iron spike plus several other metals, in order to strengthen certain planets in my chart. Once I get this talisman made, I will keep it on an altar and regularly anoint it with some oils (e.g., Power, Master, etc.) The iron was for Mars, plus I was also advised to wrap it with wires of gold (for the Sun), silver (Moon), and copper (Venus). So, I guess my first question would be: I also want to include a wire for Mercury, since that planet is negatively aspected for me, as well, so can anyone recommend a good Mercury metal?

Also, I want to make some baths for each of these planets, and I was thinking of the following combinations, for each planet:
Sun bath crystals + Crown of Success and Van Van (or maybe Frankincense or Healing)
Mercury bath crystals + King Solomon Wisdom and Clarity
Venus bath crystals + Bewitching and Vetiver
Moon bath crystals + Healing and Blessing
Mars bath crystals + John the Conqueror and Crucible of Courage

In each case, I would mix the crystals together, take a series of five baths (5 Sundays for the Sun, etc.), and save the leftover sixth of the crystals for making a special spray. For most of these, I would simply take them at dawn, in the usual manner. For Venus, however, I was actually thinking of doing them on Friday afternoons/early evenings, so I can have that relaxed, end-of-the-day feeling -- and then pour some of the bathwater into my front yard, to draw those Venusian influences into my life.

Your input is appreciated, thanks!
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Re: Astrological Remediation: Questions and Answers

Unread postby Flora » Mon May 06, 2013 7:13 am

For Mercury I would use a blue colored wire - you can find them in just about any craft store. They usually have a tin compound in them to make them so bendy. I would pick blue because it is associated with mercury in many alchemical texts. Anoint it with a little mercury oil to charge it up and it should be good to go. The tin in the wire will also resonate a little with Jupiter so you could get two in one.
I would personally use Psychic Vision bath for the Moon.
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Re: Astrological Remediation: Questions and Answers

Unread postby Sarafina » Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:33 pm

Miss Cat or anyone, what remediation would you suggest for someone with saturn and pluto in the 2nd house
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Re: Astrological Remediation: Questions and Answers

Unread postby Miss Aida » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:07 pm

Hello, Sarafina,
I am not an Astrologer.
And I don't know if Miss cat will see this post.
I am also not sure if other Moderators who do know Astrology will see this post.
Your best bet would be to either wait for someone to answer this post (who knows the answer) or to go to the AIRR website and see which members can help you with this query.
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Re: Astrological Remediation: Questions and Answers

Unread postby enigmaticstatic » Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:42 pm

Hi Sarafina, what aspects are happening to pluto and saturn?
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Re: Astrological Remediation: Questions and Answers

Unread postby Miss Aida » Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:33 pm

Hello, enigmaticstatic,
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Re: Astrological Remediation: Questions and Answers

Unread postby magicmurphy » Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:04 pm

Hi All --

I'm suddenly very interested in Astrological Remediation work for myself and my healing and spiritual discipline. I'm thinking of looking to my astrological birth chart as a template for inner work.

I've been reading reading reading the links in the LMCC Website and am excited about the creative opportunities for spellwork and contemplative work with these Planetary Products and Zodiacal Products.

I'm intrigued to hear from folks that do astrological remediation as part of their work about methods they like to use or recommend.... I was thinking of maybe an oil lamp for myself that contained my zodiacal oil, and maybe got a drip of the planetary oil of the day put in it each morning... or something... not clear yet, but I'm thinking in terms or steady, contemplative, ongoing work rather than something like a candle purpose-spell or a mojo...you know, something I can "do" or "set" every day or night... a simple ritual, or devotional-type thing...

Does this make sense?... Thanks if you can help or make better recommendations than what I'm conceiving of here.... :)

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Re: Astrological Remediation: Questions and Answers

Unread postby ConjureMan Ali » Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:16 am

Astrological remediation can take a variety of forms. It can mean making a special astrological talisman, it can mean working with a lamp, or any variety of working. It is all about what issues is trying to be resolved. You'd need to know your birth chart, the issues it presents, and what type of working would best aid it. For example the elemental associations are sometimes used to determine whether work with fire is needed, bathing, incense, a talisman etc.

Given it is a complicated subject you might consider setting up magical coaching with one of the astrologers of AIRR like Deacon Millett, Professor Ames, and Miss Cat. You'd want to come prepared with your birth chart and they can go over it with you and set up the proper strategies. It's a great way to learn.
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Re: Astrological Remediation: Questions and Answers

Unread postby magicmurphy » Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:03 pm

Thanks for the response, Conjureman Ali.

I actually since posting have indeed been in touch with Professor Ames on this. Glad again to see i'm on the right track.

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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby brujaha123 » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:57 pm

Hola,

My apologies if this post is in the wrong subforum- I'm trying here :). Here's my question:

It is my understanding that we perform spells to invoke a change in a situation. So, when I read a horoscope or get a reading and it tells me about an outcome in the near future, does it take into account the fact that I am going to do spells? Do the spells have the power to alter the outcome?

Here are some examples:

Her horoscope says she will have a great week, but I'm doing cursing work on her. Will my cursing work change her horoscope?
A reading says there will be some delays with obtaining a certain job. Is that factoring in that I'm working open path already, or will the open path bust the obstacles/delays out of the way sooner?

Hope this question is clear. Just me overanalyzing things.

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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby Miss Aida » Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:48 pm

Hello, brujaha123,

Unless you are looking at her personal horoscope, then it's irrelevant. Your spell won't affect every single person in the world with the same sun sign.

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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby brujaha123 » Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:30 pm

Thank you, Miss Aida. So, since I am just looking at a general horoscope, it may not even apply to her personal case anyway. Others of her sign could be slated to have a good week, and that may not even apply to her anyway.

What about spiritual readings? Do they tell me about an event that is going to occur based upon work that I am already doing to make the event occur? Or do they tell me what is going to happen, and then I can do spells to change it or speed it up, etc? Or is it that the reading is telling me a final outcome, and nothing can change that outcome?

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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby Ms Melanie » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:13 am

Hi brujaha123,

A reading can tell you all the above.

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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby brujaha123 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:50 pm

Got it! Thanks, Ms. Melanie.

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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby asturias » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:44 am

Greetings to all.

There is an aspect in my chart that I would like not to remediate, but to enhance as much as possible. Hopefully the moderation will nevertheless find it fitting for this trend.

I have an opposition between Venus in Aries in the VI house and Jupiter in Libra in the XII, which throughout my life has granted me the sympathy and favor of teachers, professors, and institutional figures of authority in general. I would like to ask for some suggestions, if I may, to enhance this aspect, to make it stronger. Perhaps by using planetary seals in the composition of a talisman? perhaps by incorporating luckymojo's Venus and Jupiter oils into it as well?

Or perhaps I should just fix an attraction mojo and include these aspects, entwined somehow, but with the formal structure of an attraction mojo prepared to fit this situation - such as lodestones, deer's tongue, cinnamon etc.

Please. Any suggestions or general notions on how to accomplish this are welcome.
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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby Miss Aida » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:22 pm

Hello, Asturias,

I am sorry but I don't know astrology very well.

Can you please just explain what it is that you want to do?

I'm a little confused with the attraction ad the deer's tongue and the lodestones. Do you want to enhance or attract communication?

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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby asturias » Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:45 pm

Miss Aida,

First of all, thank you so much for being so gracious in answering all of my questions lately. I appreciate it. :)

There is an aspect in my chart that grants me the favor of authority figures. Namely, that one opposition between Venus in Aries in the VIth house and Jupiter in Libra in the XIIth. I would like to enhance this aspect, to make it stronger by means of magic work, possibly by crafting a talisman of sorts using the planetary aspects - the planetary oils lucky mojo carries, for instance, plus the planetary seals, were examples of possible materials, though I wouldn't know how to compose the planetary talisman itself, and therein lies my question.

As a second option I considered preparing a mojo to attend the same purpose - to grant me sympathy and affection of authority figures in general, and therein examples of materials I could think of to attain such a goal. Deer's tongue to improve my own communication, lodestones and cinnamon for the attraction aspect etc. More suggestions are welcome, of course. My second question was if it is valid to add the planetary components I considered for the first potential talisman into that prospect of a mojo - planetary seals, lucky mojo's planetary oils - and how to fit them in such a mojo, instead of preparing the planetary talisman I had considered first.

But perhaps I am overthinking, and all I need is an attraction mojo in general, aiming at authorities figures, without an actual need to include the astrological subject, even if to enhance that quality displayed in my chart. But making an inclusion of the planetary aspects does seem a bit more...intuned with me, perhaps? more fitting to my own energy?

Please let me know what you think, and I do so appreciate the consideration. :)
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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby natstein » Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:33 pm

Hello asturias,

I do not do much work with astrology myself so I may not be the best person to answer. I am also a little confused by your question. I have always thought oppositions in a chart showed areas that were somewhat of a struggle for people. However, if what you are trying to do is increase your influence over people in positions of authority I would recommend starting with a Commanding or Compelling type of mojo and make your target people in positions of authority.

As to how to include astrology products, I believe maybe Mercury or Jupiter products would be helpful in increasing your ability to communicate and have authority of your own.

You might also get some coaching from a person who is an astrologist as well such as Miss Cat or Deacon Millet or any of the other readers and rootworkers at AIRR (http://www.readersandrootworkers.org).

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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby asturias » Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:43 pm

Hello Natstein.

Your advice does seem quite reasonable, thank you. As to the meaning of oppositions in a chart, I've seen it interpreted in ambiguous ways, yes. I should definetly consult with an astrologist, nevertheless, and I do so appreciate the recommendation.
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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby catherineyronwode » Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:32 pm

asturias,

An opposition between two planets on a single horoscope (such as Mars opposed to Venus on Joe's chart) or an opposition between two planets in two horoscopes (such as Joe's Mars opposed to Bill's Mars) is just what it sounds and looks like -- two forces as exemplified by those planets staging a tug of war, vying for supremacy, or creating negative energetic speaces between them.

Your opposition between Venus in Aries in the VIth house and Jupiter in Libra in the XIIth house does show that you can use your personal power and initiative over weak, negotiable, gentle, and compromise-prone authority figures, especially in job situations.

Always remember that the native is in the center of the chart and literally cannot see both opposing planets at once and that at the time a horoscope was cast (for instance at a time of birth or when a wedding was held or when a qestion was posed), one or both of the opposed planets may additionally have received strengenting energy from aanother planet (for instance, Joe's Mars might be trine his Jupiter) or it might have received negative energy from another planet (for instance, Joe's Mars might be conjunct Saturn).

Likewise, as time goes by and other planets come into play through transits or progression, first one, then the other oppositional planet may show supremacy. This will cause the strength or immediacy of the opposition to come to the fore or to recede in importance at different times in life.

Creating a talisman via the traditional method of electional astrology -- when the respective planets are in good positions via transit -- is not common in hoodoo, nor in any form of folk magic. It is a part of ceremonial magic, of course, but that is not what we are teaching here.

Using the respective seals of the planets, however, is found in several types of folk magic, and you can cut the seals out and work with them as petition papers, if you wish. Likewise the oils, powders, incenses and herbs of the planets and signs might well be used in crafting siple spells.

Further instructions cannot be easily described in sufficient depth a simple folk magical forum such as this, but i hope this provided some insight, anyway.
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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby asturias » Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:58 pm

It was spot on. A perspective from a folk magic point of view was just what I was expecting, actually. Disposing the cut-out seals on a favorable manner, use them as petition papers, annointing them with oils. It is so much more my speed than complicated ceremonial magic concoctions.

Thank you, Miss Cat. Particularly, thank you so much for the consideration in providing for such a sharp and thorough explanation. The moderation is ever so thoughtful here. It's heartwarming, really :)
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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby BCAC » Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:11 pm

Question about Saturn Opposition to Mercury. I just checked my transits and I'm still dealing with Saturn opposition Mercury. Are there any recommendations to help lighten the effects? I'm having a hard time feeling motivated to finish school (natal Mercury is in Gemini) and I wanted to know what's the best method/product recommendation for this?
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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby Miss Aida » Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:25 pm

Hello, BCAC ,

Unfortunately, you are speaking "Chinese" to me as my knowledge of this stuff is limited.

You may want to go to the AIRR webpage and find a rootworker (such as Deacon Millett) who specializes in Astrology and get a short reading about this.

http://eadersandrootworkers.org

I wouldn't know what planetary oils to recommend.

Maybe Miss cat will see this post (as she is the foremost expert on this) and can help

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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby catherineyronwode » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:53 pm

Dear BCAC,

I was taught that when planets are affecting one another badly in terms of transits, it is a good idea to seek a harmonious third lanet to reconcile them and to burn the three candles in a trinity (on a triangular sheet of paper, with a petition for reduction of the harm or negativity and a restoration of harmony.

In your case, you tell us that Saturn is negatively affecting Mercury, but without a look at your whole natal chart and the current transits, i could not select a third planet for the harmonization. Any good astrologer should be able to do so. Try Deacon Millett, Professor Ames, or others at AIRR who take such cases. I do too, but i am currently working toward the 2016 Hoodoo Heritage Festival and am not seeing clients until afer that is over.

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Help with March's Planetary Nightmare

Unread postby EvaLuna » Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:16 am

Hi Everyone:

I am not well versed on Astrology but I know that March until May 2016 there is and will be a lot of planets in retrograde, conjunctions, etc...causing havoc in relationships, money, career, etc.

Is there any rootwork, candle, protection, blessings or magic to help soothe the what is happening? Anything around relationships and keeping arguments, etc from flaring up with be appreciated.

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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby catherineyronwode » Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:41 am

Hello, EvaLuna,

Depending on which planets are going retrograde and how they affect one's individual horoscope, it is a common practice to light a candle in the name of the affected planet(s) to strengthen it its activity in your life during the period of retrograde motion.
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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby Luckyyone » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:45 pm

I hope I'm posting this in the correct thread. When I'm doing work on my love target, is it ok to read horoscopes? Those become irrelevant right? I know they are just predictions but some are so on point that it scares me to read my love targets....

It's just curiosity...

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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby Sister Jean » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:27 pm

Hello Luckyyone,

I don't understand what you mean by horoscopes becoming "irrelevant" when you're doing love work, but it's up to you whether you read your targets' horoscopes while you're working on them. If you feel like they might sway you, or confuse your work, ignore them. If you want to get a reading about a specific person, you can find a reputable reader here:

http://hoodoopsychics.com/
http://www.readersandrootworkers.org
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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby catherineyronwode » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:08 am

Dear Luckyyone,

Natal, transiting, and comparison horoscopes are all used by practitioners of hoodoo, and working spells by the lunar signs and Lunar phases, as when as Solar markers, is very old-time work and still quite common to this day. Horoscopes and other forms of astrological timing are not "irrelevant." Not everyone uses them, but many do.

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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby Luckyyone » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:56 pm

I'm so glad I came back to look up the answer coz I didn't notice Ms. Cats response back when I asked this question!! Thank u both! Hope this wkend I get the guys to go to the luckymojo store by myself (it's 4hrs away) I just can't find somebody to go with me lol
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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby MysticTieya » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:15 am

Hello,

I am a 26 year old Capricorn with Pisces rising and Sag moon.

I am getting ready to enter my Saturn Return and I am curious what I can do to make that time easier for myself before it gets here.

I had an idea to put Saturn in a honey jar and sweeten him to me. LOL.

Thanks for any advice.
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Re: Astrology and the Zodiac as Used in Hoodoo

Unread postby Sister Jean » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:36 am

Hello MysticTieya,

If you go the top right corner of your screen, you'll find a search bar. Type in "saturn return" and you'll find all the mentions of this phrase on the website, including a few episodes of the Lucky Mojo Hoodoo Rootwork Hour where it looks like they talk about. Hope you'll find something that will help you!

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