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Unread post by mastersirius678 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:56 am

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I understand, never thought that book about the paper can be so useful. I know writing partition paper was talked a lot on the forum so I brought it. I was shocked at the example you gave about wishing some guy having a drinking and drug problem going to their grave just because he stole a book or ate some food. Not what I would do but some practitioners might not tolerate such behavior at all, who knows.

I think I'll write my name in pinyin with English names if my target is a native English speaker, and both my name and my target in chinese if he or she is chinese, and my name in chinese and their name in other languages if they are from other countries. That is what I'll do since you said I could do it however I want. :D

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Unread post by significant » Tue Dec 25, 2018 3:45 am

Hi guys
I would be grateful if somebody could help me because I'm totally frustrated and confused. First, because English is not my native language so I do not understand ALL the explanations you offer...
So .. l need to make petition paper.
My "target" often changes opinions depending on her mood..one day she tell that she will give him divorce, and in couple of days that she will not.They are not together anymore,we live together and l want to be with "single" man and he want that too.
He tells me that everithing will be ok and she will accept b/c he know her.. but I want to make sure that she will.I believe in LM products because they have helped me so many times so I know it will also help me now, but l don't want to mess up with the petition now.l have few LM oils and powders like commanding,essence of b.o.,influence,do as l say. ..her name,date of birth,l have her photto,her cigarette bud,her hair...commanding and influence herbs.l know what to do with all that stuff,but don't know how correct write the petition..to put it under the candle...soooo please help me to write it correct:

1. Her name,dob,crossed with mine (as l control her) and surrounded with demand "give divorce to "his name,dob"?
Or
2.her name,dob, crossed with demand "give divorce to "his name,dob" ( without my name and without surrounded with demand ) ?
Or
3.her name,dob, crossed with his name,dob and surrounded with demand "give me divorce"
And do l write this on petition paper...or on back of her photto?.
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Unread post by Miss Athena » Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:05 am

Hi significant,

The correct answer is #2 although you could also circle it with your demand. You want her to divorce him, so keep yourself out of the equation.

I hope this helps. Good luck.
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Unread post by significant » Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:47 am

Thank you Miss Athena for your quick respons. ... and one more thing... i am confused..
Do I, when I write her name to turn paper in the clockwise direction or vice versa? also when I'm bending it?..
because I want to attract that request to myself,(so in clockwise direction) and on the other hand, we want her farther from us (counter clockwise).. as it does when you want something to go away from you..



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Unread post by Miss Athena » Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:54 am

Hi significant,

You are ridding yourself of something, so one way to do that is to turn counter-clockwise and fold away from you. You are not attracting that request towards yourself, you are directing it outward at her (since you want her to divorce him).

For your best education on all matters related to petition papers, I highly recommend Miss cat's book "Paper In My Shoe." You can learn from the best!
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Unread post by significant » Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:58 am

Thank you...
That book is already in my next ordering list ;)

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Unread post by significant » Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:30 am

Orrrr.. :roll: :roll: :roll:
Is there a possibility, if Lucky Mojo could post online book for download for $10-15.00 (when I pay l get a one-time download code) or to Lucky Mojo send in attachment by mail when l pay it.. or in some other way

Oils, powders or candles we can't download but the book we could, so no problem if it will be even more expensive, but we do not wait for 6 weeks for delivery, shipping to Europe, customs and everything else ...

Please also consider this possibility ;)

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Unread post by JayDee » Tue Dec 25, 2018 11:46 am

significant,

You can also order the books from Amazon.

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Unread post by significant » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:31 pm

JayDee,l know.. but also I have to wait long for it to arrive.. :(

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Unread post by JayDee » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:38 pm

significant ,

I am sorry to hear that! I am not sure what Lucky Mojo plans to do with possible digital DL, I would think one issue possible could people printing the book and distributing it, or sharing the link to others. Many copyright issues can come out of digital text. I am also old school and hate reading text on a device LOL.

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Unread post by significant » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:19 pm

Oh...you right..but if someone want to do such a bad thing like is printing and distributing it,he can buy a book,scan it and do that anyhow :(
..l would never do that...but you are right.. there are all kinds of people ..

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Unread post by Miss Athena » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:36 pm

Hi significant,

At the present time, Lucky Mojo books are only available in printed form. The books are well worth the wait for shipments to arrive to you. Patience is a virtue, in magic as in life, and your efforts will be rewarded.

Good luck.
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Unread post by Pegasus » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:03 am

I would like some advise. I put my petition paper underneath my vigil candle which is in a water pot because I leave it until it burns out completely over 7 days. Does it matter that my petition paper is in water even though its underneath the glass vigil candle? I dont want my request losing its effect if its in water.

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Unread post by Miss Athena » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:28 am

Hi Pegasus,

I would put your petition paper beneath whatever container you are burning your candle in or on, and keep it dry. That would allow you to re-use it if you are doing additional work toward this same goal.

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:30 am

significant,

We do not sell Lucky Mojo books digitally. There are too many people making illegal copies of digital books, and if this were to happen to our books, our authors would lose money they would otherwise be paid. The standard royalty on a book is ten percent of cover price. Our books retail for $9.00 and the author gets 90 cents on each copy. We print runs of 2,000 at a time and they get $1,800 in advance every time we print a run of their books. This is solid income that they (and i too, as an author) depend on every year. Once a book goes into electron-land, NO ONE PAYS THE AUTHOR ANYMORE. The world is full of cheats and scams and people who think they are big shots because they can scan a book and share it with their friends. As a person who has earned my income all my life by writing, i can tell you that it is not a hobby; it is WORK, and, as it says in the Bible, "The worker is worthy of his wages."

Books are one of the tools of magic. Learn to love them and to use them and they will serve you as well as any candle, oil, herb, or stone.

You can read more about my book, "Paper In My Shoe" in this forum thread:

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:42 am

Pegasus,

There is no "one way" to perform a folk magic spell, but there are customary, habitual, and traditional ways, which vary from one culture to another. We work in the African American folk magic called hoodoo, so i will tell you what is costimary in this system:

One mark of well-done conjure work is that the disposal of unused byproducts is in keeping with the intention or wish that caused you to do the work in the first place.

While it is a custom to dissolve prayers and petitions in water, that is usually only done if the water is to be drunk or used in bathing or washing floors. The water is thus deployed to carry the good work on, and not discarded as trash.

As i understand you use of the water, however, it is a mere fire-preventive and you will discard it when done and not use it further. In that case, i would not set the petition in the water, but lay it beneath the container, as explained by Miss Athena.

However, if you will make use of the fire-safety water afterward, then do feel free to dissolve the prayer or petition in the water, and let the water become imbued with the energy of your prayer and the candle light before deploying it in further work.
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Unread post by LittleWitch2020 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:21 pm

Happy New Year!
May this year brings you happiness and all your desires.🧙🏽‍♀️💕
Question:
I'm getting ready for my biggest conjures, ever. I've ordered my needs from LM(best oils I've EVER bought). I'm getting there piece by piece.
Now, the question is... When I write my petition, must I write around myself and the target? Do I write targets name 5x and mine 7x? When writing a petition for money, do I write my name and DOB on top of the word "money"?
I've always wrote on the candle, for money. One last thing... Do I write from bottom to the top for money conjure also?

I don't want to mess this up. I know I know don't worry about perfection. I don't want the reverse, of my desire to happen.

I know it's all in Ms. Cat's book. But, my funny money is laughing at the idea of buying the book, now. I've just sacrificed to buy the things I've just bought, from LM. So please, help me out. I'll get the book in 3wks.

Respect and honor
Thanks a trillion
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Unread post by Miss Athena » Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:17 pm

Hi LittleWitch2020,

If you're doing love work, write his name as you suggest and cross with your name in the same amount of times. You can encircle your names with your petition.

For money, cross your name with the word Money. And carve your candle from base to wick.

While you wait for your book to arrive, this thread is a trove of good advice for you.

I hope this helps. Good luck.
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Unread post by LittleWitch2020 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:42 pm

Thank you.
I've been reading intently. I'm making a lot of sacrifices, studying like I am. I don't mind because it's worth it.
I am utilizing the free info., Ms. Cat's introduction theory and more. I'm so engulfed I haven't watched TV lol.

Thank you, once more
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Unread post by LittleWitch2020 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:48 pm

Hello,

Every conjure requires a petition, correct?

I don't want to miss a beat, when I do my work. I do getting this right means a lot.

In the future, I'm going to do root work for others. I can't do it without knowing proper petition format... right.

Maybe I'm wrong.

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:33 am

Little Witch 2020 --

If by "a petition" you mean either a petition paper or a petition to God, no, not every conjure work "requires a petition." You should have a desired outcome in mind, but it need not be phrased as a petition (for instance, it can be a command or a curse or a wish) and it certainly need not be a petition paper (for instance it can be a name paper, a photo paper, a copy of scripture, or a prayer paper - or no paper at all).

For instance, oiling your hair would not require a petition, sprinkling a sidewalk would not require a petition, suffumigating a room would not require a petition, turning or flipping a foot track would not require a petition, driving a dirty cloth into a tree with a rusty nail would not require a petition, making a mojo would not require a petition, and drinking a tea would not require a petition -- and there are hundreds -- perhaps thousands -- of other spells or forms of spell-casting that do not require petitions.

When it comes to spells that do often utilize papers or incorporate them, even a honey jar or sugar jar does not require a petition -- because a name paper or a photograph may be used as well as, or instead of, a petition paper, and so may a prayer paper or a portion of scripture.
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Unread post by EddieD » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:44 am

Little Witch 2020,
I’m right there with you! Absorbing as much info as I can from all of Miss Cat’s plethora of resources! And I say we could all do with a lot less TV watching. Good luck on your adventures.

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Unread post by significant » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:38 am

I fully understand you miss Cat ... in the next order I will buy 2 books .. candle magic and paper in my shoe.

thank you ;)

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Unread post by CuriouslilThing » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:36 pm

Hi everyone! I was wondering if you could help me with wording my petition. Originally friends with benefits was my goal & my target speaks about being sexual with me, but never goes the whole way.. At first I wanted to stick to purely friends with benefits & just look for a way to heat things up between us, but now I think I want our friendship to evolve. We spend time together and text frequently, but after thinking my situation over last night I’ve decided I want us to grow closer in friendship and once that has happened do the benefits and eventually try a relationship.. My goal for now will be best friends and frequent hanging out, how would I word a petition for that though? Thank you for any help.. Also, when I do a name paper with my name over his should the circle around it be “frequent hanging out together, best friends” or something shorter since that seems like a lot to write.. Thank you again!

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CuriouslilThing --

Do you have my book, "Paper In My Shoe"? It contains dozens of ways to word petitions -- and not all of them by any means have what you call "my name over his [with] the circle around it." For instance, if you look on page 21 of the book, you will see a petition paper highly adapted to your needs. It is in the form of a labyrinth, and the "walls" of the labyrinth are the text from The Song of Solomon 4:12 - 6:12, that begins, "A garden inclosed is my sister, my spouse, a spring shut up, a fountain sealed..." The idea is that he must carefully wend his way inward from brother-sister-like friendship to sexual intimacy and, potentially, marriage. Because this petition mentions honey and a list of spices and resins, it is easy to make a copy, prepare it with those items, fold it seed-packet style, and place it in a small jar of honey, using the honey to feed and lure him over time, with the intent that he will penetrate to the mysteries of intimacy through careful steps.

A lovely thing it is, indeed, one of the finest friendship-to-sex spells i have ever seen.
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Unread post by CuriouslilThing » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:39 pm

I do not have that book yet! I will add it to my cart, I have cursing & crossing & I don’t remember the other, but it has container spells in it.. Thank you for the suggestion and that does sound like a great spell.. I’ll get the book, but is there anything else that I should order along with it? Meaning ingredients for that spell. I’d hate to buy the book, then have to make another order and wait for the ingredients to come in before I can do anything. Thank you for your reply!

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:30 pm

Hon, it's in the Bible!

12. A garden inclosed is my sister, my spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed.

13. Thy plants are an orchard of pomegranates, with pleasant fruits; camphire [an old word for henna], with spikenard,

14. Spikenard and saffron; calamus and cinnamon, with all trees of frankincense; myrrh and aloes [aloes wood, not bitter aloes!], with all the chief spices


et cetera!
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Unread post by CuriouslilThing » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:10 pm

Okay, thank you so much Cat!

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Unread post by CuriouslilThing » Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:21 am

Hi everyone! I hope you’re all having a good week so far! I have just one quick question.. I know that when writing a petition you should try to match the ink color to your purpose (red for love for example)... I was wondering though, when you’re going to gift something to someone and lay tricks with oils or powders, could you write a petition in invisible ink on the item? Like the picture I had mentioned in my previous post, if he ever took the frame off I wouldn’t want him to find the petition BUT if i wrote on the back of the picture in invisible ink it wouldn’t be able to be seen with the frame off unless under a black light.. I hope that makes sense lol.. Thanks in advance for your thoughts!

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Unread post by Miss Athena » Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:51 am

Hi CuriouslilThing,

Yes, you could do that. It's done all the time.

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Unread post by CuriouslilThing » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:38 am

That’s great to know, thank you!!

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