Too Many Spells at Once? Multiple Spells? Spell Overload? Interval Between Spells?

JayDee · Unread post by **JayDee** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:21 am

you can get a crown of success spell kit to get recognition for the work you do and /or land the promo.

Willowspell · Unread post by **Willowspell** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:36 am

strawberrykid wrote:Thank you ConjureMan and kmew1315 for your advice.

ConjureMan, I just want to clarify: even if the works are on different aspects of my life, I should inform the current rootworker of my intent to get someone else to work on the different aspect for me?

Sounds to me as if you may be concerned that your current rootworker may be offended that you are considering going to another for help with other matters at the same time.

Like Conjureman Ali said, If you speak with your rootworker about it, be Open and honest with him/her, then I doubt you will have an issue.

If you are unable to to open with your rootworker then I fear that your tie with them will be lacking and therefore any work they are doing for you will be pretty lacking. By no fault of their own. You have to speak freely about feelings, issues, concerns, questions, situations ect. They can't help you if your not honest them.

Good luck

Transformer · Unread post by **Transformer** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:47 pm

I have a great AIRR rootworker who is doing a great job on my case. If anyone is going to get results, I know he will.

Except, I'm tired. Really worn out from all the energy I spent on this before finding him. I am so tired I hardly have the strength to fight the fear, doubt and worry that seem to constantly creep into my thoughts. I know it's doing me no good but am finding myself too tired to fight it.

Can my rootworker still get results with me injecting these counterproductive emotions into it? He's a professional. I'm hoping his skill level and energy are more powerful than the damage I am causing. thanks for any input.

Miss Bri · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:29 pm

You need to have faith in your rootworker (which it sounds like you do). You need to have faith in the work he is doing and believe that the best outcome will prevail. You may want to schedule some time and speak with him about these negative thoughts and feelings you are having -- they are nothing that he has probably not experienced before with other clients and he most likely has some remedies that he will recommend you try to help yourself feel better and have a more positive outcome about the whole thing.

Also, it sounds like you are a bit energetically depleted and for that situation I like LMC's brand of High John the Conqueror products:

http://www.luckymojo.com/johntheconqueror.html

Blessings,

Bri

jwmcclin · Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:45 pm

I like the Power candle for added strength.

Miss Tammie Lee · Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:13 pm

Agree with both Miss Bri and jwmcclin and
Here is my positive 2 cents worth:
I would always recommend that anyone go to a Reader or Rootworker (a member of the AIRR) who is greater than they feel they are-- more qualified period--like a specialist in medicine... ananlogy --if your head is cloudy no matter who you are--- every one needs a check up and sometimes a specialty!
babybio, no doubt you are in great hands and a wonderful heart.

Opi · Unread post by **Opi** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:07 pm

This may seem a strange request. I have recently been extremely betrayed by someone I once cared about. I now wish to punish the person by doing some cursing work (nothing too severe just mess with him a bit and give him what he deserves - he's a person who has done a lot of horrible things but for whatever reason has very great luck and never EVER experiences the pain he inflicts on others) but I also want to make him desire and miss me - not so that i can reciprocate the feelings, but so that I can deny him and make him suffer. believe me, this is a very bad guy. i'm wondering if it works to do such contrasting work on a person - for instance if i were to use both a LM love baby doll on him to make him resist me while simultaneously using a Cursing doll and a cursing spell kit? would one cancel out the other and make it all ineffective? Thanks so much for any advice.

Elveta · Unread post by **Elveta** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:37 pm

Frankly I wouldn't bother. It's a waste of time and energy. If this guy is as bad as you say he is, karma, aka, "you reap what you sow," will catch up with him. Far more productive to ask yourself why you were attacted to such a jerk to begin with and purchase LM products to find a new lover.

Houngan_Liam · Unread post by **Houngan_Liam** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:29 pm

It is very difficult to work both cursing and love work on someone at the same time, especially when it is someone that you have emotional involvement with. The other thing to remember is that when working love work on someone else, you are often times just as effected by the work yourself, so if you are working to make someone else feel things for you, part of the work will often result in you feeling things towards the person you are working on. You would be better served to perform some cut and clear work. You can find details on cut and clear here:

http://www.luckymojo.com/cutandclear.html

If you still decide to perform this kind of work, you would want to ensure that you performed these works completely separately. You could perform your love/desire work on Monday - Wednesday - Friday and then perform your cursing work on Tuesday - Thursday - Saturday. The spells will not cancel each other out, so long as you are very clear in your intentions and prayers.

I do encourage you though to instead think about what kind of work you really should do, perhaps beginning with a divination on the subject. If you are not good at divination yourself, you could consider looking at the AIRR website and finding a practitioner that could help you, or perhaps attempting to become involved in the Lucky Mojo Hoodoo Rootwork Hour on a Sunday afternoon. A divination is the best way to begin any rootwork to ensure that you are on the right track.

path2success · Unread post by **path2success** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:35 pm

Hi Everyone,
I've been facing issues in every aspect of life since past few weeks. I had readings with 2 wonderful AIRR readers and both of them told me I'm not crossed - it's just how life's turning out to be for me. I need to do crown of success for my career as it's sinking, money drawing work, love work, healing work for family & myself , and couple of other issues. I have all the spells, I have Ms Cat's book, I have plenty of oils,etc ; running a little short on money for continous vigils for all the issues.

But the main issue is physical & spiritual energy has been drained so I'm not able to work all the spells at once. Issues seem never ending. I try and complete one and another is already waiting for me. I hardly get time to have lunch during the day so I've not been able to do much spell work.

Has anyone faced a situation like this? I need to start somewhere and all issues seem important. To pay a rootworker for everything I will need huge amount of money first. I did some money drawing work myself but may not have helped much...Readings have only stressed on "Work on myself and everything will be fine". But I seem to be drained on energy to work on myself

jwmcclin · Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:44 pm

The reading is right...work on yourself... Follow the advice of the airplane stewardess, you put the air mask on yourself first, than on your child. The theory is you are no good for anybody or anything if you don't take care of yourself first. High John the Conqueror has worked wonders for me. I also like burning Power candles when I feel drained of energy.

Miss Ida Lundin · Unread post by **Miss Ida Lundin** » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:17 am

jwmcclin is saying it so well. Definitely, you need to work on yourself as the reading says. Work for healing and strengthening of yourself. Don't overdo your work plan. Use the products you have and do it simple but continuously. To say a prayer and anoint yourself with healing/power oil every morning doesn't take so much time. Don't stress over the things you aren't doing. One day in the future you will have a good day and then you'll fix up a power mojo. And then you will start to anoint your head with crown of success oil. You do little everyday to grow your strength.

Miss Bri · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:06 am

path2success wrote:Hi Everyone,
I've been facing issues in every aspect of life since past few weeks. I had readings with 2 wonderful AIRR readers and both of them told me I'm not crossed - it's just how life's turning out to be for me. I need to do crown of success for my career as it's sinking, money drawing work, love work, healing work for family & myself , and couple of other issues. I have all the spells, I have Ms Cat's book, I have plenty of oils,etc ; running a little short on money for continous vigils for all the issues.

But the main issue is physical & spiritual energy has been drained so I'm not able to work all the spells at once. Issues seem never ending. I try and complete one and another is already waiting for me. I hardly get time to have lunch during the day so I've not been able to do much spell work.

Has anyone faced a situation like this? I need to start somewhere and all issues seem important. To pay a rootworker for everything I will need huge amount of money first. I did some money drawing work myself but may not have helped much...Readings have only stressed on "Work on myself and everything will be fine". But I seem to be drained on energy to work on myself

When situations like this come up for clients, I recommend that they begin with some cleansing--the 13 herb bath is great for this. Then do something simple but long term--I like High John the Conqueror for all of its regular attributes but I and my clients have also found it to be wonderfully helpful in increasing strength and vitality, so set a HJC vigil candle for yourself with a general petition to have mastery in the face of adversity, strength, and renewed vitality. Some women prefer to work this way with Queen Elizabeth root but I really like the effects of HJC. Once the first candle has burned out take the petition and affix it to a second candle--this is easy and inexpensive and can cover a wide variety of issues while also increasing your personal strength and power.
Good luck!
Bri

Transformer · Unread post by **Transformer** » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:16 am

Hi, What would the difference be between High John the Conquereor oil and Master oil if you wanted to use it to feel mastery and powerfulness over your work, situation and life? or in a case like this one addressed above. thanks

path2success · Unread post by **path2success** » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:32 pm

Thank you all for your help!
HJC seems to be the most important for me right now. Miss Bri thank you so much for your guidance on writing the petition "to have mastery in the face of adversity, strength, and renewed vitality." , I would have never thought of framing it that way...

Miss Ida Lundin · Unread post by **Miss Ida Lundin** » Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:28 am

path2success your welcome, good luck with everything.

babybio, they are based on two different roots. There uses might be interchangeable in some work and in others not. HJC can be used for male sexuality and money luck as well as strength.

Master root is for mastery it can be to learn a new skill or to master people. Also some workers prefer different botanicals, so they might choose one over the other because of that. In this case described none of us recommended Master. But if the question was what you asked "to feel mastery and powerfulness over your work" someone might have, although we might also have teamed Master with HJC.

I personally probably work a little less often with High John the Conquer than many of the other workers. And I probably work more with Rue than some other workers.
So what I'm trying to say with all this is that, it is a combination of what is the suitable plant or product to use for the case at hand and the preference of the worker. This understanding comes from working with the plant. But also reading other workers writing.
Like miss cats excellent Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic

Kaye007 · Unread post by **Kaye007** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:56 am

Hello,

I'm new to LM...I have really enjoyed reading the site and this forum -- what a wealth of information!

I have a question, please forgive me if this has been asked [yes, I did search first

]. I recently bought a honey jar kit and a John the Conqueror kit. I started my honey jar last week, and plan to start the John the Conqueror spell soon. My question -- can I take the candle holder from on top of the honey jar and use it when I do my JC work? Then put it back on the honey jar when I'm done with JC for the day? I don't have a separate candle holder, but I'll gladly go buy another one if I need to -- I don't want to interfere with the honey jar in anyway.

Thanks in advance!

catherineyronwode · Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:32 am

I would NOT do that. If you do, you will have to be constantly be breaking the wax off of the holder each time you switch candles. This will have TWO unfortunate effects:

1) It will break the ongoing spell you are working each time.

2) It will render the wax so broken up that you will not be able to eprform a candle wax divination on the outcome of the work. For more on candle wax divination, see this page from my free online book "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice":
http://luckymojo.com/candlemagicdivination.html

In the future, if you are using standard 4" and 6" candles, then please do yourself a favour and pick up some ultra-cheap but extremely practical star candle holders next time you shop with us! Order:

CAX-BRS-BSS4 Stand Brass Stamped Brass Star Holder for 4" Candles $0.50

CAX-BRS-BSS6 Stand Brass Stamped Brass Star Holder for 6" Candles $0.75

Good luck in all your works!

Kaye007 · Unread post by **Kaye007** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:25 am

Cat,

Thank you! I thought it might not be a good idea so I wanted to ask, just to be sure. So far, the burn has been nice and clean, so I don't want to do anything to mess it up!

Candle holders are definitely on my list for my next order, along with a whole bunch of other stuff! lol Thanks again for your help.

jwmcclin · Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:30 pm

Its a good practice to keep some candle holders on hand. The candle holders that Lucky Mojo sells (pictured above) are very practical. I reuse candle holders only when I am working the same spell on the same situation or individual ... I just love them!

Transformer · Unread post by **Transformer** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:06 pm

I recently tried out High John the Conquerer Oil on a vigil candle with the petition written as suggested by Miss Bri above and I have to say I definitely feel the effects. I was definitely burnt out, worn down, moping around dragging a heavy heart and weepy eyes everywhere I went but today is the first day after many, many, MANY consecutive days (months, really) that I kind of feel ok. and feeling ok is a huge step in the right direction and a big break through so I say thanks to HJC, Miss Bri, jwmcclin & svarthyndan. I'm just blown away so great, thanks!

path2success, if you can, try it out! or anyone else who is feeling depleted. (and, yes, I'm female.)

path2success · Unread post by **path2success** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:27 pm

Thanks babybio for the update!! I definitely plan to do that!! I've placed my order for HJC and eagerly waiting for it's arrival !

trish76 · Unread post by **trish76** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:27 pm

MadameKoiteh wrote:Peace To All,
I just want to share a personal experience of exerting too much magickal force. Once, many years ago, I was so deeply involved in a magickal undertaking that I worked for weeks on end at my goal-- morning, noon, and all night. I fasted, I prayed, I consulted readers, I prepared ritual after ritual, and spent a great deal of time, money, and energy on the matter. Eventually, I got what I wanted, but the spiritual exhaustion that overtook me was tremendous. I couldn't even get on my knees to pray for many, many months. I was weakened by having used so much energy to change the course of fate. later in life, I realized that I should have submitted to the will of the Divine in the first place. What I wanted was not good for me and I ended up throwing it away. My point is, if you have to work until you have no more energy and you can think of nothing else, beware. IMO, most of the best things in life come easily, with just a clear intention and a little consistent effort. Obsession is for the victim, not the master. I hope this is of some help. Many blessings.

Thank you for this insightful post....and I need to frame that quote. In the past I had an addiction to getting readings (without rootwork) and was fixated on a particular outcome. I have only recently accepted that I need to love and respect myself FOR myself, apart from anyone else, otherwise I'll just keep falling into the same old patterns. It may not be the target that needs to be changed, but you and your opinion of yourself and your worth. My momma always said if you have to hate yourself to love somebody else.....something ain't right. SO thank you again.

jwmcclin · Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:06 am

trish76, I like what your momma said! It is quite easy to get fixated and hard to stop. But with determination and structure and confidence in yourself and your work, you can and you will! When you hold on to spells, your entergy is trapped and needs to be released, I like how ConjureMan said it, "let the spirits do their work."

ladydawn · Unread post by **ladydawn** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:29 pm

so where do you draw the line between thorough and obsessive? Would working a situation from a few different angles be considered obsessive? I'd hate to magically overload anyone, doesn't sound pleasant at all.

starsinthesky7 · Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:08 pm

Thorough is when you are working on the situation from different angles towards the same goal. If you are getting movement, and/or positive signs then I would say keep working. If a reading indicates for you to follow a certain path, and perform works towards that then that is fine. As long as you are making progress towards your goals then you are fine. I mean covering all your basis such as affecting someone by laying tricks, lighting a candle, etc, but then giving time for the work to take...is thorough.

Obsessed comes in several different ways. Trying the SAME spell work over and over again on a situation that is not getting movement. Doing work on a situation for years and perhaps many months without getting any movement at all, and just not simply letting it go. A reading that indicates the situation cannot be rectified given the circumstances but still working on that. An example of this is perhaps trying to bring back a lover that you have not spoken to for YEARS, or perhaps many months, and you have no way of getting in contact with them. YET you still do magic to try and get in contact with them.

I mean obsessive is constantly checking their facebook, myspace, twitter, checking their emails, driving by their house and/or work, calling and hanging up, pleading and begging the target when the target clearly does not want you. This just makes he situation worse.

Or given the circumstances...the situation is just done. For example, the break up was SO bad that this person does not want to have anything to do with you. I am not saying that all is lost, but if an ample amount of time has passed and a reading indicates its time to move on then to me thats obsessive. Yes, there are times or slim chances where you can work something out, but most of the time...its just best to move on. If the person is afraid of you, has to get a protective order, or anything like that, then chances are its over.

Also, I have heard of people do spells EVERYDAY for months even years! Thats ridiculous. That is where the overload comes in. People figure that if they are not lighting a candle, laying down tricks, or working with a baby doll, etc. that the magic is not working. That shows lack and faith within the work and craft of rootwork. If you doubt it, and are constantly worried then you should hire someone that is a professional. This goes for constantly getting readings as well. Getting a reading every week or 2-3 times a week is excessive. I say get one once a month, or when its entirely imperative to your work.

I hope this makes sense, and I am sure someone has to add the difference between thorough, and obsessive.

ConjureMan · Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:43 pm

I'm with Starsinthesky7. I think the difference between obsession and being "thorough" is all in the mindset. If I had to define a difference I would do it in relation to the difference between being focused and determined versus letting the situation become the center of your existence; the difference between approaching something with confidence and determination and wallowing in anxiety.

Not to be a contrarian, but in my experince I haven't seen this overloading a target. I haven't see what's been described in other threads where so much work is done that it "backfires."

What I *have* seen is people becoming so obsessed with their goal that their lives become nothing more than one attempt after the other at attaining it. No single goal is worth that much anxiety.

Either approach your work with confidence and faith, able to let the spirits do their job, or let someone else handle it for you who has a steadier heart.

starsinthesky7 · Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:53 pm

Definitely hit the nail on the head Conjureman Ali! Thats a key point...obsession is when your whole life revolves around hoodoo, magic, spellwork, etc. People forget to LIVE, and do things for themselves. I can't believe the people that come to me asking me to love work to get someone back, which they are willing to spend money on that, BUT wont spend money on themselves such as getting job. Some people are willing to spend their last pennies, and do what they have to do to get the money for love work or whatever else, but not themselves. That always just blows my mind.

I mean its okay to do work but goodness do not revolve your entire life around it where you stop thinking about yourself, and your family.

Maljen · Unread post by **Maljen** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:08 pm

starsinthesky7 wrote:Definitely hit the nail on the head Conjureman Ali! Thats a key point...obsession is when your whole life revolves around hoodoo, magic, spellwork, etc. People forget to LIVE, and do things for themselves. I can't believe the people that come to me asking me to love work to get someone back, which they are willing to spend money on that, BUT wont spend money on themselves such as getting job. Some people are willing to spend their last pennies, and do what they have to do to get the money for love work or whatever else, but not themselves. That always just blows my mind.

I mean its okay to do work but goodness do not revolve your entire life around it where you stop thinking about yourself, and your family.

I totally agree! Even before 'rediscovering' Hoodoo, I always believed that ANY magical work must must MUST be grounded in reality. Christians would call it God helping those who help themselves. Within my Pagan beliefs, it's proving you're worthy of the Gods (or spirits) help and energy. Just as humans don't want to waste their energy on someone who refuses to help themselves, why should we expect Divine beings to do the same. Becoming obsessed with a spell, goal or situation isn't healthy, and I truly believe forcing a client, or yourself, to do the mundane work to help manifest a goal keeps that in check in most cases.

rico69 · Unread post by **rico69** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:58 am

I have two glass encased red candles dressed with oils. They are both dressed for love but for 2 different people and they are both lit.

They both do not know that I have candles lit.

I have one person that I have a candle lit for ask me if I have interest in the other person that I have a candle lit for. I had asked her why she would ask me this question when I have not given her any indication or signs that I have interest in another person. She stated that she feels it. She especially feels it in her chest.

Is it possible that having the 2 love candles lit at the same time give off vibrations/feelings to one another?

Devi Spring · Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:14 am

Well, it is splitting your focus for one thing. If one of your targets happens to be very spiritually sensitive and intuitive, then they are likely picking up on your split interest - either through subtle word choice, your reaction to certain questions, body-language, etc.

oceanblue · Unread post by **oceanblue** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:59 am

Pardon me if this is repeated. I hav tried to search the forum for something alike failing miserably.
I recently received my order from LM,over whelmed by the qty I ordered due to overseas.

I would like to do the following but unsure in which order to do them.I'm in sales and my boss and his boss have been discriminating me since September 2010 and using me as an scapegoat(I have only started to accumulate evidance of this):

1. Make these bosses leave the company as they have made incorrect decisions.

2. To win Big business + be successful at what I've been doing in the same company
for nine years. Every time I close a deal the bosses will dampen and not support the sale

3. Fertility spell.

4. Lemon spell on someone who's took advantage of my good nature

5. Break up spell on my ex.

6. Make someone repent their actions of slandering.

7. Go unseen just in case.

8. Make someone fall head over heels for me?

9. I have a honey jar+Ammonia jar+ a leaking vinegar jar from previous work I did that I
want to dispose and redo on the same people.

10. Interpetion of signs: I keep getting a parrot colour, red head humming bird that
comes into my garden every day and sits there for hours digging my grass since Oct
2010. (I'm not sure if that's good or bad).

11. The petition that I set on the vinegar jar, I feel is reversing on me. Maybe I didn't
cleanse and protect properly.

12. Do you always Cleanse the house 1st before cleansing oneself followed by protection?

Please Advice

virgosleo · Unread post by **virgosleo** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:33 pm

First I would like to say thank you for all the advice and insight I've be given with my other posts.

I need to do some serious work on myself in the form of healing/guidance/empowerment. My strategy for this is to begin with the healing work, then the guidance and then the empowerment, and I have seen many find products in the LM catalog, however I'm wondering if there is such a things as "too many" products being used at once.

For example: How many oils should be used, or herbs or powders?

Also any advice on what type of work I should be doing to get these results would be most appreciated and beneficial.

Miss Tammie Lee · Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:25 pm

Hi Virgosloeo! There is no such thing, in my opinion only, as "too much" or too little. It depends on what you are working on for yourself and for others. Intent comes into play so much, that it can not be denied. If it is work for You, go with the flow, and what your heart and wisdom tells you. You might be working with many oils on you and sachet powders as well. You might be helping others in need in Your Family and just Praying for others on Your Alter; There is no set limit. Go with what you feel!
Hope this helps!

jwmcclin · Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:18 pm

Personally, I like the 13, 9, 7 Herb baths to remove negativity, draw strength, and positive things to you such as career, love and health.

Read further about each here 13 herb spiritual bath (http://herb-magic.com/13herb-bath-13.html), 9 herb spiritual bath (http://www.herb-magic.com/9herb-bath-9.html) and the 7 herb spiritual bath (http://www.herb-magic.com/7herb-bath-7.html)

of course, you might chose to use candles, oils, sachets, its your liking.

If you select one of the spell kits, all of the items are included with appropriate instructions.

You can start with the Van Van Spell Kit (http://www.luckymojo.com/vanvan.html) designed to clear away evil, provide magical protection, open the road to new prospects, change bad luck to good; followed with King Solomon Wisdom (http://www.luckymojo.com/kingsolomonwisdom.html) to increase mental powers, enable wise decision-making, aid leadership qualities or John the Conqueror (http://www.luckymojo.com/johntheconqueror.html) to increase power and prosperity

starsinthesky7 · Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:33 pm

Well its not really about how much product or how little....its about the RIGHT products/supplies. I mean sometimes depending on the situation you must have 7 oils or whatever to achieve what you want. But I think if you need more guidance then you can always seek the help of a spell coaching through a professional rootworker to get specific instruction on what you would need for your case.

http://www.readersandrootworkers.com

virgosleo · Unread post by **virgosleo** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:30 am

Any suggestions or recommendations for supplies to use to remove self doubt, and encourage or promote self assurance and confidence?

catherineyronwode · Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:31 am

Virgosleo, Crucible of Courage is good for that.

Oceanblue, You are probably trying to do too man diverse spells at once. Forus on what you need most and do that first.

MissMichaele · Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:46 am

I love, love, LOVE Crucible of Courage for self-doubt. I like to use it with Hindu Grass supplies in a cleansing bath; it makes the world all shiny and new. 'Bout time to do it again!

Crucible of Courage supplies
www.luckymojo.com/crucibleofcourage.html
Hindu Grass supplies
www.luckymojo.com/hindugrass.html

Miss Michaele

Miss Tammie Lee · Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:58 pm

Me too!

Miss Michaele!!!

My post was unclear and open ended. (apologies)
This is a great thread and there is a lot great information from everyone above!
On a personal note, Crucible of Courage is at the top of a list of life changing products!!! There is no way to describe how this product has worked and changed and "brought back" the "ready to go".
http://www.luckymojo.com/crucibleofcourage.html
I looked up at the above post (mine) and realized it was open ended.
Love the Lucky Mojo Products!!! I don't see limitations or too much and working with the right products as Starsinthesky7 suggested. Agreed!!!

virgosleo · Unread post by **virgosleo** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:10 pm

Much appreciation for the information, and thank you for taking the time to share it!

ConjureMan · Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:57 pm

All great advice. Remember you don't need to drench your candles in oil, a little can go a long way.

Personally I don't use more than a few oils on one candle, but that's a personal preference as I am fond of helper lights.

virgosleo · Unread post by **virgosleo** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:11 am

ConjureMan Ali wrote:All great advice. Remember you don't need to drench your candles in oil, a little can go a long way.

Personally I don't use more than a few oils on one candle, but that's a personal preference as I am fond of helper lights.

Oh? Could I get more information on helper lights?

Also may I ask for suggestions about guidance and inspiration tools/products?

ConjureMan · Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:25 pm

http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/in ... nciliation

If you look at the 4th picture from the bottom you'll see an example of helper lights. In this case the the two figure candles may be dressed in a Love Me type oil and the red helper lights may be dressed with a Fires of Love type oil.

The idea behind helper lights is that they can support your over all work by adding a particular element. So for example in your case you can take a white figure candle and carve and load it for yourself. Then dress it with Crucible of Courage, King Solomon's Wisdom, and Healing to help your over all mental state.

Around this candle you can set up smaller lights dressed with Spirit Guide Oil and Psychic Vision to help get your guidance, Power and Mastery Key Products to help empower you, and other similar lights.

Miss Bri · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:12 am

Oceanblue,

You have a lot of areas that you want to work on here. I recommend that you choose one area--say career--focus on that and then move onto the next area like love. Look here for how to properly dispose of previous spell work:
http://www.luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html

You may want to get a reading on one or more of these situations, I recommend that you go to here: http://www.readersandrootworkers.org

You do not have to cleanse your house in order to cleanse yourself but if you have not cleansed your house its a good idea to do so.

Good luck,
Bri

oceanblue · Unread post by **oceanblue** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:40 am

Thank you for your response.

Please Clarify -

So say if I start with the disposal to rid all the old work for a new start. I don't necessarily need to cleanse my entire house? as long as I do myself.

Should one be cleansing themselves after doing a honey jar?

Say if i was on holiday, in a hotel and wanted to start a break up spell, normally you would cleanse your entire house and yourself. But as its done off your house premises and you were to only cleanse yourself would there be danger of any come back?

catherineyronwode · Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:50 am

Oceanblue, Here are some general suggestions. They are not "rules." They are simply ways of working that are traditional and commonplace.

Uncrossing, jinx-breaking, or protection work: Cleanse the house before any uncrossing, jinx-breaking, or protection work. Otherwise, just cleanse yourself.

Long-term spells of happiness, luck, love, and healing: Cleanse yourself before beginning the work. Bathe normally while undertaking the work. At the end of the work, take a spiritual bath to cleanse yourself.

Harmful or aggressive work: Clean-up yourself immediately after any harmful or aggressive work; most people will do this on a day-by-day basis and not carry "spiritual dirt" for seven days or seven months.

oceanblue · Unread post by **oceanblue** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:11 pm

Thanks Cat. Just to ensure I have understood the above:

Doing aggresive work in a hotel on holiday is fine, as long as you clean yourself up and protect ASAP? and there's no need to stress about cleansing the room out etc.

Each time I work my honey jar by burning candles, at the end off the work (after each candle burn) I must take a spiritual bath?

Conjuremoon · Unread post by **Conjuremoon** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:52 pm

Hi I am placing another order and realized I needed some annointing oils.

I am interested in the Rootworkers Special, if it is still on there. SO, I am getting oils for love, for blessings & peaceful home, & psychic + business as I run my own business (Tarot).

My question is can you have too many works going on at the same time?

This week I am having love works done )doing it myself) I have my Saint Martha going, the psychic oils for my cards & annointing candles during readings. I mean, can you have to much work going on?

I am answering my own here, but I guess not, because workers have many works going on for different clients I am sure at once? right?

catherineyronwode · Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:47 pm

I have retitled this thread, because it is not about oils -- you also mention candles and cards (which, if you were wise, you would dress with powders, not oils, because oils stain paper products.

jwmcclin · Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:51 pm

Yes, you answered your own question. This question was asked this week. I am looking for the post, it was a lengthy discussion that I am sure will help. If I identify it, I will post it here. As for the Rootworkers Special, look here through the complete inventory (http://www.luckymojo.com/lucky-mojo-inventory.html) toward the end of the page...4 oz. Rootworkers & Churches Special Oil, Retail (item# OIL-SPE-4RET)

Starry · Unread post by **Starry** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:12 pm

I am not a practioner by any means but was introduced or led to practices late last year. I tried bottle spells. It was for a variety of areas in my life at the moment and one particular target. In my infantile stages of magic work, the spirit world and so many other things I was tackling at the time, I believe my spells (4) plus lots of candle stuff led ME to be obsessive. Not healthy. In some ways, it did work but I was thinking of target day and night.

Dr Johannes · Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:30 pm

Being obsessive is a clear sign of lacking fate and belief. It can also a clear sign that the issue should not be handled by oneself but
by a knowledgable friend or given to a professional, who is not as emotionally entangled.

//Dr. Johannes

SweetLady · Unread post by **SweetLady** » Wed May 11, 2011 1:32 am

ladydawn wrote:so where do you draw the line between thorough and obsessive? Would working a situation from a few different angles be considered obsessive? I'd hate to magically overload anyone, doesn't sound pleasant at all.

I think that if you do a second love or "love themed" spell (i.e. love me, come to me, follow me boy/girl, etc.) that would be getting toward overuse. If you did one love spell and it does not seem to have signs or results within a few weeks, I would not try repeating the love spell or doing a second "different" love spell.
I would next try "opening the way" with vanvan or road opener supplies to remove any potential barriers or "blockages" to the spell.
--If the target is currently in a relationship, then I hope you did a break up spell before you did your initial love drawing spell.

However it is, I would not do a love or love themed spell more than once.
I would do an opening the way, and if that didn't produce my desired result,
then I'd try a spell to bring the two of you together, using figural candles placed closer and closer together over a set number of days...but I wouldn't repeat the love spell or a "different" love spell. The initial spell needs time to work/manifest, and there may be other things in place that need to be overcome (barriers, the target may have protections in place, they may be involved with someone else, etc.)
Try road opening first, then if you must, do the figural candles...and if there are still no signs or results...get a reading! don't just repeat, broken-record style

Oh! P.S. --what kind of personal concerns are you working with? if they are minimal...that might be a reason for the lack of result as well.

appleve1 · Unread post by **appleve1** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:29 pm

Hi ALL,

I am very very new on this and i dont know or if i will get a reply.

i have done so many spells work on various person i could say that none of them worked if any, and recently i just bought many spells [not from Lucky Mojo] for a guy i have been seeing with for about a month. it seems that we met once a week although our relationship is platonic (no more than no-string attached sort of relationship). i have purcahsed these spells [not from Lucky Mojo]: commitment spell, make him obsessed to me etc etc etc.

i dont know yet if it works or will it ever as he has not yet ask for commitment, alas he said he doesnt want too much of commitment but saying that he doesnt sleep around either. so that sounds good for me..... at the beginning. but now i am hoping for him to take our relationship to a more stable phase

but myabe it will only be as far as just a dream... sigh........

is there anyone to help me?? i would definitely appreciate that. i felt lonely and i can be sure that this guy also likes me because we talk EVERYDAY from morning till the evening or sometimes even until early morning. but....... no commitment.... sad sad sad..... i dont to be left high and dry if i wait for him to commit to me and in the end he chose to be with someone else.... i might really consider of suicide lol.

help help help... out there.....

JayDee · Unread post by **JayDee** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:35 pm

welcome to the Lucky Mojo Forum. This site is designated for the assistance of customers who use Lucky Mojo products.

That being said I first feel you should get a reading from an AIRR worker to see if this person will committ and be a lasting relationship, they also will suggest work to do on em
http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/wi ... ootworkers

You said you purchased many spells but you don't say if you paid an AIRR worker. The titles you list are not from Lucky Mojo, so apparently you paid some unknown source. If they are via AIRR, then contact your rootworker. If they came from a random internet source, then id consider it lost money, chances are it was a scam, unfortunetly, but many exist. That may be why results were never seen.

For a guy like this id start a honey jar on em while you schedule a reading and an AIRR worker and from their go with their suggestions or a love me or come to me spell kit, also wear the oil on the body when with him.... while you prep all this steal some personal items, the more personal the better such as cum, hair or nail clippings.

aura · Unread post by **aura** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:45 am

Appleve1:

if you really might consider suicide it is not something to LOL about. Please get help if you're suicidal - there are many help agencies for this and it's not something to be taken lightly.

Furthermore, while you talk about love work in your post and what you would like that love work to achieve, in your thread title you ask if spell-work is dangerous. If you are worried that what you are doing is dangerous, the answer is simple: don't do it. There are many ways to encourage commitment in a relationship that are mundane rather than magickal.

Finally, if you do want to do love work to help things along, you could have MISC set lights for you (http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatcandleservices.html) or work with an AIRR worker as j82 wisely suggested.

Clarity and wisdom to you in your endeavours.

ConjureMan · Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:08 pm

appleve1, what you need is not a love spell, but something for yourself. Suicidal ideation, even if accompanied by an "lol" is a serious matter and no one, I repeat no one is worth taking your own precious life over. If you are willing to hurt yourself over someone who has not committed to you and is no more than a platonic friend, then the first thing you need to do is focus on *you.*

Get yourself into therapy to help heal whatever emotional hurts and fears have caused you to cling so desparately to someone and therefore give power over your life to them, rebuild your own sense of confidence, and more importantly your sense of self-worth. If you think so little of your life, you need this more than you realize.

If you want to do magical work, then stop the love spells and start doing Clarity and King Solomon's Wisdom for yourself. Once you are in a healthier place you'll not only have the power necessary to accomplish your aims, but who knows you may find that you draw that man to you with your new sense of confidence and worth.

appleve1 · Unread post by **appleve1** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:04 pm

Hi all thanks so much for your replies. As for the suicide matter i was really joking about that actually, so no worry lol. I am far from being suicidal just plain desperate. I have been doing so many spells for this particular guy (also some to others in the past) sometimes i saw result just the funny things that i always end up with another guy but not the guy i was intended the spells for. Yes i tried online spell casters most of them are from ebay, those who has good reviews, i cant say they were a total scam but they just didnt work for me. Sometimes when i thought i saw some results everything simmer down to dead in a matter of days lol. So yes, money flying out of the window.

I just wondering because i went overboard buying many spells for one guy i'm afraid it gets me back thats why it didnt work.

I have just purchase spell kits from LM but they says my CC has been declined when they put the payment through, i called my CC company and they say nothing is wrong with my CC so now i am confused and (again) need help to solve this. I have replied to LM if they accept payment ny paypal because it always work for payment abroad (mind you, i live in Indonesia) but none has reply me yet. I really need help on this if anyone can get me the items i purchased.

I am also considering of using AIRR services but they are sooo many, which one to chose? I really want to get the result and the answer i can really move on with my life, by all means i am not ugly at all, have had many stalkers in my life, broken many hearts n vice versa just my flaw when i already set my eyes on one guy then i cannot see any other guy let alone having any feeling. I have just reject my ex (on which i was longing to come back before until i grew tired n then meet this new guy) because i am still very much set my eued just for this new guy.

So please, i will be thankful for all the answers.

catherineyronwode · Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:08 am

Hello, appleve1 --

We cannot help you with your habit of hiring "ebay spell casters" other than to tell you again that this is a waste of your money.

We have many foreign clients and have no trouble with their credit cards, so if your was declined, you should contact the shop and ask WHY -- there are at least a dozen reasons a CC may be declined.

We do not accept Paypal, sorry.

You say there are "sooo many" AIRR members -- but the 20-some in our group is a drop in the bucket compared to the hundreds on ebay!

I'm sorry you have had stalkers. As a woman of only below-average beauty myself, i can tell you, however, that having stalkers is not a sign of being attractive. I have had stalkers too, even in my middle age.