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Spells to Overcome Resistance, Change Someone's Mind

Unread post by wraithklewn » Mon May 17, 2010 9:20 pm

this is a question concerning vigil candles. when a candle divination indicates resistance from a target( sooty haze at top and clean burn for the rest of candle) is it never wise to redo another vigil of the same nature if it is just a vigil of the same type shortly after the first has burned? ive read that you can if its for the self but how about on a target? and yes i do realize that a different angle approach is usually advised :D just curious on firing up another vigil only.

apologies if its here on the forum somewhere but i cant seem to find it for the time being.
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Re: (vigils)when a target is resisting go a different route?

Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Mon May 17, 2010 11:41 pm

If your target is showing resistance indicated through the candle, then you need to address the resistance. You can do a bend over candle, something with domination, or something else where you have power over them. Then repeat the previous candle that was done.
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Unread post by J Simulcik » Tue May 18, 2010 4:35 am

I agree with stars...there are also cases where there is another product in the same family that has a more coercive side to it. Same nature, just a little more push.

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Re: (vigils)when a target is resisting go a different route?

Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Tue May 18, 2010 4:59 pm

Or you can break resistance with confusion products, especially if this work is for domination.

Some people keep repeating candles until they break through resistance, but that just seems like running into a wall over and over again. You want to find out which angle would be the best to take. Usually divination can show you that route.

As long as people have free-will there will be resistance to you trying to force your will on others so be prepared to deal with such resistance.
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Re: (vigils)when a target is resisting go a different route?

Unread post by wraithklewn » Tue May 18, 2010 6:27 pm

would a separation vigil suffice for the confusion? im not exactly sure what is for oils an herbs on that one. and of course im out of black candles and no imflammatory confusion oil. i got poppy seeds though.. and a vinegar jar i started today with poppy seeds in that as well.

if i had recieved my other order id have a vigil ordered, black candle dressed with vinegar and poppy seeds and work that new vinegar jar along with it.
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Re: (vigils)when a target is resisting go a different route?

Unread post by jwmcclin » Tue May 18, 2010 7:46 pm

Poppy seeds are used to confuse a target...(http://www.herb-magic.com/poppy-seed.html) also consider a road opener (http://www.luckymojo.com/roadopener.html). Read about Separation supplies here http://www.luckymojo.com/separation.html
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Re: (vigils)when a target is resisting go a different route?

Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Wed May 19, 2010 12:28 am

Black mustard seeds, red pepper, and poppy seeds are all great for confusion. Poppy seeds are great for weakening a person as well in any situation as well. Separation could cause some confusion, but I would add the previous ingredient I mentioned.
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Unread post by Buttercup » Wed May 19, 2010 3:57 am

I agree with the above posters,if there is resistance a reading will help determine the reasons and help you decide what you should do next. Since it's separation though,which is not easy work I believe that repeating the same spell could be helpful if you're out of the supplies needed to work this in a different way. People tend to resist when you're trying to influence them (especially if the change you want a big one) but if you persist there's a great chance that he'll get tired and won't be able to resist that much.

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Re: (vigils)when a target is resisting go a different route?

Unread post by wraithklewn » Fri May 21, 2010 1:21 am

thanks everyone. i may get the reading here soon. i may also see if LM can make me a "special" vigil hehe. so ill call them to see if thats possible beforehand. was thinking a break up vigil with inflammatory confusion oil added in. have them burn it and i do my thing at home.

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Re: (vigils)when a target is resisting go a different route?

Unread post by Sebastien » Sat May 22, 2010 4:50 pm

When burning a bend over/domination candle to overcome resistance would we have to change our petition asking for power over the target or would we use the same petition?

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Serious Resistance in Target

Unread post by lunatrix » Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:29 am

I've been steadily performing a couple different things to get an ex to repay me.
I did receive a sign on the 3rd day to continue, but the court date is approaching fast.

My goal is to have him pay so we will not have to go to court. Found out he's at casino's today.
He has money to gamble, but doesn't feel he owes me money and has lied on court documents as well.

I am on a deadline(so to speak). Any suggestions to break down the wall?
Using honey jar, Just Judge, pay me candle, ancestors, and just added a dollie.

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Re: Serious Resistance in Target

Unread post by Devi Spring » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:49 am

Have you had a reading to determine what the nature of the resistance is, so that you have a better idea how to break through? If not, it is something to consider if you've been working but not getting the results you desire. Since there is a deadline involved, it would be best to get a divination done to take the guesswork out of any further action.
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Unread post by lunatrix » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:08 am

I have had several readings. Just saying he's resistant.
And they have been with AIRR readers.

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Re: Serious Resistance in Target

Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:08 am

If you've been taking a sweet approach, which the honey jar indicates, then it may be time to start adding some push to your work to break through the resistance. On your dollie try to warm up its feet while telling him that he needs to run to pay you, tell him that its getting hot for him and he needs to get to you quick.

You can also start working with the Green Devil Candle spell: http://www.luckymojo.com/compelling.html
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Unread post by lunatrix » Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:58 pm

Thank you,Conjure Man. Excellent idea.
The work has been a mixture of compelling and sweet...to warm his heart to see clear to pay me.
And being forceful in my petitions involving a saint, spirit helper, and my ancestors.
There is also a situation that just developed today that I am confident the powers that be were waiting for...
can't begin to tell you how perfect it is. Patience is a virtue that I need to develop.
The wait makes sense now.

Time to crank it up :twisted:

This will be fun!

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Unread post by lunatrix » Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:04 pm

Oh, and I have a name paper in my shoe, so I can walk on him all day long : )

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Unread post by jwmcclin » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:18 pm

I agree with ConjureMan...sometimes more is needed especially with a resistant nature.
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Re: Serious Resistance in Target

Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:23 am

i would work with St. martha, and a bend over candle. In addition, you can try to do some confusion work so he will be so confused that he can no longer be as resistant.
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Re: Serious Resistance in Target

Unread post by lunatrix » Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:52 am

Thanks Stars.

Not familiar with confusion work, but I'll search the site.

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Unread post by lunatrix » Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:53 am

Also, would you recommend a Cut and Clear as well?
This anger is getting to me.

My only concern is if I perform the Cut and Clear, it will interfere with
the work.

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Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:44 pm

If you do a cut and clear it will not interfere with the work because you are trying to get your money back. It will deaden your feelings for this person, but that does not risk your pay me now work. As for the confusion, look for inflammatory confusion products.
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Re: Serious Resistance in Target

Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:10 pm

I actually wouldn't use Inflammatory Confusion products in this case. Mind you this is my personal opinion, but generally I find that when you use Inflammatory Confusion you have your target blowing up at all sorts of people including yourself. He's confused and he's pissed. That's not a state you want him to be in when you ask for your money back; it may lead to him lashing out at you.
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Re: Serious Resistance in Target

Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:46 pm

That is a possibility. Then you could work with regular confusion products, and/or poppy seeds to disrupt him. You can work with the inflammatory confusion if and when you go to court. Let him get all hostile, and angry in court to help your case.
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Re: Serious Resistance in Target

Unread post by lunatrix » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:50 pm

Thank you Stars and ConjureMan.

Heating everything up. Adding some confusion to the mix.
Green Devil/St. Matha/Skull Candle/ Need to choose.
I'm doing a lot and am feeling the effects today...hardcore spiritual bath time.

Last question (unless your answers lead to more questions...).
If I perform a Cut and Clear, will it interfere with future work on the target.
Especially if it is of a pseudo-reconcilatory (not a word but it should be) nature.

Believe me when I say, this is a Justified work. And I am finding that I am not very lady-hearted.

Thank you.

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Re: Serious Resistance in Target

Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:16 am

It depends what you are doing the clear and cut for. Are you doing it for the target, and cut your emotional tie to him? Or are you doing it to release yourself from the situation? If its from the target, I mean you cutting and deadening your feelings will cause yourself not to want to be with him anymore, or not want to find yourself attracted or whatever to this person. Now if its from the situation you may lose and interest in doing spells for the situation. It will help you move on.
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Re: Serious Resistance in Target

Unread post by lunatrix » Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:45 am

Thanks Stars.
The Cut and Clear would be to relieve my attachment to the target.
He's taken up way too much of my energy for someone who is not around.

Yes, I want my money. But I also want Justice after the fact.
Meaning, he was a dog(sounds awful I know) and I want him to know what it feels like
to be treated this way by someone you love.

I have never wanted revenge in my life. Wish I could be saintly and let go, but it isn't happening.
So, the question is will the cut and clear negatively effect any spell work I perform after the money situation is cleared up.
For example petitioning St. Martha to have him come back for awhile, so I can be his karma : )
This is not someone who has the emotional capacity to be a life time partner.

Does this make sense?

I have not decided if this is the best course of action. Money first. Attachment cut. Then see if it's even worth my time.

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Spells to Control or Regain Control Over a Resistant Person

Unread post by theusurper » Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:22 pm

After i made a lot of work for my BF i discovered that he is taking reiki classes and now is more resistance to work. he was taking about that he can see spirits and all that stuff.

he's very cold and distance from me and even he broke me and told me that he want just to be my friend because he need to find himself.

i don't understand what happened.

even when i work with my Saint Marhta i feel that something is wrong.

he's acting like a crazy man with the things he's talking.

my question are:

1) he can be resistance to any kind of work because he's taking that class?

2) what i can do to controlling and make him don't take anymore those classes?

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Re: BF studying Spiritual Matters, Becoming Resistant to My Work

Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:41 pm

I suggest you use my "Overcoming Resistance in a Lover" conjure. It may help to overcome that block you are sensing.
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Re: BF studying Spiritual Matters, Becoming Resistant to My Work

Unread post by GoldenFlow7 » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:07 pm

Hi Theusurper,
Firstly your post helped to remind me of something important. I have Reiki and once you recieve your attunement you have a shield around you. I believe you can try ConjureMan Ali's suggetion or go for more loving approach because the energy is love and love conquers all. If you love him allow him to walk his path. The energy calls you. It took me one year after Reiki entered my path and beckond to me and I followed not realising it was the Energy working out my path to it. It took me across the ocean just to get my Attunement. I know when you love someone its hard but supporting him can be the greatest gift you can give him and yourself.

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Re: BF studying Spiritual Matters, Becoming Resistant to My Work

Unread post by theusurper » Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:54 am

Thank you GoldenFlow7, yes i very hard, i will try to support him. To CM Ali, can i work with Saint Martha, too.

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Re: BF studying Spiritual Matters, Becoming Resistant to My Work

Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:33 pm

Absolutely, Saint Martha is great for this type of work.
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Re: BF studying Spiritual Matters, Becoming Resistant to My Work

Unread post by Learning-Doing » Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:01 pm

GoldenFlow7 wrote:Hi Theusurper,
Firstly your post helped to remind me of something important. I have Reiki and once you recieve your attunement you have a shield around you. I believe you can try ConjureMan Ali's suggetion or go for more loving approach because the energy is love and love conquers all. If you love him allow him to walk his path. The energy calls you. It took me one year after Reiki entered my path and beckond to me and I followed not realising it was the Energy working out my path to it. It took me across the ocean just to get my Attunement. I know when you love someone its hard but supporting him can be the greatest gift you can give him and yourself.

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The Usurper ,

as a reiki master myself I agree with Goldenflower . once the attunement has been given to someone , yes , there is a shield around this person And Inside them because the reiki energy goes even into the DNA to transform someone . and that path can lead someone Away from those that are trying to manipulate and control them . But in respect to this forum being a LM Hoodoo forum and not Reiki , definitely seek out their products that are of a more gentle, loving nature . maybe even baths to help heal whats inside you that you feel the need to control this person? work with this person in building your love and relationship and perhaps less time trying to Dominate him, Reiki will only continue to lead him away if you do. so , in my humble opinion , LM is amazing in what they offer to help you heal You and gently bring about more Love. i adore LM's Chupparosa and Adam & eve vigil lights for this purpose .

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Re: BF studying Spiritual Matters, Becoming Resistant to My Work

Unread post by jwmcclin » Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:27 am

Resistance in a Lover (resistance-in-a-lover-t9109.html)
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Re: BF studying Spiritual Matters, Becoming Resistant to My Work

Unread post by theusurper » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:29 pm

I'm burning the red jumbo candle and look so beautiful, no mess the light go hight and steady. this is the 3 days and don't hear from him yet. I think is a good sing but he doesn't call yet. any advice will be good for me.

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Re: BF studying Spiritual Matters, Becoming Resistant to My Work

Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:05 pm

Remain patient and let the work do its job. You may want to petition Saint Martha to shatter his reistance to you. She is more powerful than any "shield" and knows how to deal with men who play with women's hearts.

Remember to compliment your work with love and passion conjures as heavily working domination without love or sweetness will not bring you love.
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Re: BF studying Spiritual Matters, Becoming Resistant to My Work

Unread post by Learning-Doing » Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:27 pm

best of luck in your quest Usurper . patience is always best in matters of the Heart. out of respect for the forum i did not go into the true basis of Reiki , but since this is what is causing his resistance to you and you posted for help involving Reiki , its becoming Attuned Directly to Gods Power , Gods Life Force . that may very well be why he no longer responds to your work and is so resistant to it . so , the "shield" is actually considered to be Gods energy within him and that is the most powerful thing that i know of and that is what your partner is being taught in his classes .the classes hes taking might actually , in the end help him to be a better partner to you . but definitely follow CM Ali's advice . much respect to All and to this forum . i post this only to help clarify for you what process your partner is going through . the more you understand , the better plan of action you can take .

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Re: BF studying Spiritual Matters, Becoming Resistant to My Work

Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:11 pm

I've worked on reiki practitioners without any difficulty. Love shouldn't be forced and if reiki is making him a better person and leading him away from you then you should wish him well. If however you are intent on wanting this man then the works outlined will do the trick and get through to him. None are immune.
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Re: BF studying Spiritual Matters, Becoming Resistant to My Work

Unread post by Learning-Doing » Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:12 pm

my post was to inform Usurper of what might be causing her partners resistance , not doubting Hoodoo , Conjure, Rootwork or your ability or work you have done on a few Reiki practitioners CM Ali , I infact follow your posts and advice closely :) . when in her own words since taking these classes and having his attunements , he has become more resistant to her work even when she calls upon the help of Saint Martha the Dominator . None are immune , I agree but I'm sure many have broken free so to speak of being worked on . yes, I am new to Hoodoo but If all domination workings kept every person to us , would there be a need for cleansing , blessing , healing and cut and clear work? So, I hope that my posts were not seen or taken by you in a negative way . Just my experience that I am sharing with Usurper on this particular subject. If i didnt believe in the power of Hoodoo, I wouldnt be here right now.

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Re: BF studying Spiritual Matters, Becoming Resistant to My Work

Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:35 am

I'm reassuring usuper, not responding to you. No need to worry that you're being misunderstood. Thanks for your perspective on reiki, now back to hoodoo.
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Spells to Overcome Resistance, Change Someone's Mind

Unread post by splitpea » Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:57 am

My boyfriend and I live together, but he wants to move to another city, which puts him closer to his family but keeps me away from mine.

How can I make him listen to me or change his mind so we don't have to leave??

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Re: Control his mind to change it

Unread post by jwmcclin » Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:10 am

Your question is answered here (to-change-someone%CA%B9s-mind-t1064.html)
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Re: Control his mind to change it

Unread post by Mama Micki » Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:46 am

From mildest to harshest: Influence, Compelling, Commanding, Controlling, Essence of Bend Over. You decide what it will take to make him do what you want. You might also try I Dominate My Man and working with St. Martha.

Other ideas might be using a skull candle or a doll of him.
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Re: BF studying Spiritual Matters, Becoming Resistant to My Work

Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:15 am

I think Saint Martha is appropriate for this situation, but considering you have been working on this person for quite sometime perhaps you need to call in some reinforcement from another rootworker to back up your stuff. You may need to go back to the drawing board with your work as well.
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Re: Control his mind to change it

Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:26 am

I agree with Mama Micki. I would try some compelling over a white skull candle in addition to working with I dominate my man. Saint Martha may help you as well. BUT i must say that this may be a temporary fix. YOu may want to get a reading to see what would be the best thing for both of you.

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Re: Control his mind to change it

Unread post by Lord SP » Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:44 pm

If its influence and not control your looking for I would suggest Bend Over....I use it sometimes as a fragrance and I must say it does have an alluring effect on the mind...From my experience with it using it for a few weeks,I say I like the way it works because it's subtle...IMO...I would just advise doing what your heart tells you where it could be a win/win for everyone involved....I mean if you comprimise maybe you could move half of the distance to both of your families,with both of you guys in the middle....Just a suggestion hope all works out well for you,darlin.......Be Blessed

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Re: BF studying Spiritual Matters, Becoming Resistant to My Work

Unread post by Learning-Doing » Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:35 pm

yes, you are right ,bk to Hoodoo CM Ali ! and i should have been more supportive to Usurpers posts and questions. and i left out that , yes, i have worked with St Martha before and shes so powerful, i was blown away . anything is possible with the right game plan !

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Re: Control his mind to change it

Unread post by hapinys » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:09 pm

Will do this myself.

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Re: Control his mind to change it

Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:45 pm

Actually on the spectrum of things, I would put Essence of Bend Over with Domination and Controlling *not* with Influence. Its a recipe aimed at making some bend over for you.
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Re: Control his mind to change it

Unread post by awlookatmenow » Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:49 pm

Look I've been burning a intranquil candle on my man but he is very stubborn about everything what else could I do to get results with him with our relationship. We havent been spending a lot of time together lately

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Re: Control his mind to change it

Unread post by Devi Spring » Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:36 am

You should get a reading with an AIRR worker to see why you are not seeing results. http://www.readersandrootworkers.org
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Re: Control his mind to change it

Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:15 pm

If he's already your man and the issue that he's not spending time when you then your issue is that you're working with the Intranquil Spirit. The Intranquil Spirit is aimed at drawnig back a wayward lover. For a person to spend more time with you, try Stay with Me or Stay at Home products, or the slightly more coercive Follow Me Boy.

For keeping a man at home, the carrot works far better than the stick. Who wants to stay in a tense environment?
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Change mind about only being friends

Unread post by blackdiamonds » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:19 pm

I would like to do a spell on a man to change his mind about only liking me as a friend and wanting to be my friend
I've read about skull candle and was thinking about using one of those, but am not sure what oils to use but was thinking it would probably be a controlling oil?

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Re: Change mind about only being friends

Unread post by Mama Micki » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:38 pm

What you need is something to make him think of you in a more romantic and sexual manner. Bewitching, Follow Me Boy, and Kiss Me Quick to get him interested; Love Me, Chupparosa, Dixie Love, and/or Marriage for a long-term relationship.
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Re: Change mind about only being friends

Unread post by blackdiamonds » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:12 pm

The thing is...he's a very stubborn man and he just wants us to be friends even though he likes me , he is attracted to me (ive had 3 readings on our situation in December) so would it be a good idea to like add controlling oil or something?

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Re: Change mind about only being friends

Unread post by Spellkiss » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:50 pm

hmm good post please add more suggestions i have a similar case.

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Re: Change mind about only being friends

Unread post by blackdiamonds » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:55 pm

I just saw your post, spell kiss, sounds VERY similar to mine haha :(

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My target is resisting

Unread post by Bellasangre14 » Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:08 am

I started a couple binding spell and was waiting for the Saturday of a waning moon to work a break-up spell on my target which is tomorrow because their is obviously another woman. I've been having dreams where there are all these woman stopping me from getting close to my lover. I feel that he is not only resisting but has someone working him. I was wondering if there is something to cleanse him of whatever someone might be doing to him and make him more receptive to the work I'm doing for him. Thank you
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Re: My target is resisting

Unread post by SweetLady » Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:02 pm

what was your target doing in the dream? I know dream meanings are highly personal and can be hard to interpret. It doesn't sound like he's resisting to me, from what information you gave. I would see that dream as meaning there were many other women in your way when it comes to gaining this man's loyalty...In other words...there are other women...not just another woman. I would do a Nation Sack if you can get the concerns as called for in the spell. Also, maybe get a reading from one of the AIRR members to see what kind of work is needed for your situation.

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Re: My target is resisting

Unread post by Bellasangre14 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:53 am

Thank you SweetLady...After discussing it with my best friend I realized that his mother sister and now this new woman have been working to get between us. So their are several women. I'm considering a reading. I remember reading a while back about a ritual with a glass cup over the targets picture or name paper to help protect him from other workings. I couldn't seem to find it though. Anyway have a fantastic weekend.
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Re: Control his mind to change it

Unread post by hapinys » Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:29 am

Nice posts.

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