Reverse Revenge or Crossing Against Ex-Spouse or Ex-Lover

Nolongerhere · Unread post by **Nolongerhere** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:26 am

Someone cheated on me and then went quiet the day before Christmas Eve and never spoke to me again. I want to do destructive magic on this person. I am also doing positive magic at the same time.

Does anybody have any answers? Or would you like more information as to why I wish to do this?

Any help would be loooovely

Callum R

SOL

QematetSau · Unread post by **QematetSau** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:08 pm

I'd personally wait for my good work to take. Then, I'll move on to the negative work. With negative work you have to cleanse and things like that so if you're not careful it can mess up your positive work since you'd have that negative stuff lingering around you.

Hmmm I'm not an expert rootworker but I'd recommend crossing him with a spellkit. However, to do a better trick I'd get a reading and have a rootworker lay out the best way to approach crossing his finances. This way you don't go through trial and error

Miss Tammie Lee · Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:45 pm

Is the work justified? Check with your Member of AIRR. You used the word "alongside"; when I have worked with Destruction from Lucky Mojo it has never been "alongside".

You really need to know about this product before working with this product. Yes I have worked with this product. Yes I was told by a Member of AIRR it was justified, yes they knew if I proceeded I could do all of the steps.

It's almost like we can just do or work with this:
http://www.luckymojo.com/gooferdust.html
It all goes back to justification. AND if you can't do the work, others are here to help you, instruct you and provide you with what you will need. But we can't just DUME, Destruction or fling goofer dust. (lets ruin someone's life today)

If it is called for and justified, well you will both know it, The Member of AIRR.
That's all I'm going to state about this; contact a Member of AIRR:
http://readersandrootworkers.org

A member of AIRR is what you need most with determining the course of action in all aspects. It could be that what you need in this case is not Destruction.

Take care and Be Blessed!

starsinthesky7 · Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:51 pm

How about you just do some reversing work? This is reversing everything he did, and how he made you feel right back to him. But if not feel inclined to get a crossing candle lit,a nd specifically targeting his finances. But do not spend too much time on making someone else miserable, and wasting YOUR finances which I am sure you are trying to gain more of which might be working against your own positive magic.

YEs you can do negative and positive magic at the same time. I mean I would just make sure that you cleanse yourself. But since you are doing it on the MISC altars, then that is fine. You may still want to cleanse yourself, and then do perhaps more work for yourself to bring in what you want.

Miss Tammie Lee · Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:04 pm

Starsinthesky7, You gave great back up advice, but clearly per Sol's reply, Destruction is not the best remedy and again we agree.
Sol confirmed it in the answer. You also gave great answers to "steps" when working with this product which is what I wanted Sol to see and hear from a Member of AIRR. You also provided other answers that a Member of AIRR could provide and again agreed great advice.

Yes you can work with both, (separately) but what if Destruction is not the remedy in this case? Clearly it is not.

What if Sol does not know about proper techniques? The before the during and the after? Those are the steps I keep writing about, but I leave it up to Members of AIRR to read for them and remedy their situation.

You give very good advice. I always look forward to it.

starsinthesky7 · Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:58 pm

I mentioned it because they may not know their options. But I think you should do what you want and then move on. Do not keep dwelling on a situation. If you say you are over them, which obviously you are not if you want to do work on them, then leave it alone

Sensuous · Unread post by **Sensuous** » Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:46 pm

So tonight I was invited to a party. I was on my way there and saw my so-called boyfriend holding hands and walking down the street with another woman. He actually told he was my man and he's her new man. I stuck by this man while he was in jail, sending him money, paying for phone calls etc...then he gets out and does this to me

....OH HE'S GOTTA PAY.

This was right after he called me yesterday and told me that he was trying to make money so that we could do better together. UGH!!! I'm so hurt, yet I'm very angry and I WANT REVENGE!!!!

Please tell me what I can do to get back at him and cause havoc between them and ruin his life?
By the way I made a doll a few days ago (for love and reconciliation). Is it okay if I beat the crap out of that doll and just take my anger out on it?
Is there a spell to get him back in jail/prison?

jwmcclin · Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:30 pm

Have you called his spirit into the dolly? A doll made with the intent for love should be used for that purpose. If you no longer want the doll baby for love purposes, kindly call his spirit out of the dollie and dispose of it properly.

Sensuous · Unread post by **Sensuous** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:51 am

How do I call the spirit out? I did consecrate and baptized the doll as my target's name. However, I feel that it didn't work or I didn't do it correctly.
Also can you please answer my question about getting revenge? It's the only thing that'll make me feel so much better.

theusurper · Unread post by **theusurper** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:20 am

I understad you, but you know what, don't take revenge because eventually you will be the only affected. Don't make life miserable, sweetened with love and you will see how the universe rewards you. Good luck to you.

babybaby · Unread post by **babybaby** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:29 am

Hello Sensuous.

Listen i can tell you that i know exactly how you feel!! I was just like you a few weeks ago, when all i wanted was to beat him to a poll and get serious revenge. Well in the end i came to my senses and realized getting revenge only draws my energy. The best revenge you can ever and i mean ever is to move on, be with someone who will respect you and love you for who you are!
Men dislike to see a women he believed he had all the control of. Move on look good, etc
He will get what he deserves just sit back and watch and trust me you will not believe what the universe can change around so that you will be a winner in the end.
I suggest you do cut and clear spell which is available on the Lucky Mojo web.
Like i said i know how you feel, but trust me when i say his not worth it.
I work with Saint Martha and she is wonderful, she has helped me so much and she is a great saint to have on side for men like him!!!!

All the love.
Babybaby

MissMichaele · Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:18 pm

babybaby wrote:Listen i can tell you that i know exactly how you feel!! I was just like you a few weeks ago, when all i wanted was to beat him to a [pulp] and get serious revenge. Well in the end i came to my senses and realized getting revenge only draws my energy. The best revenge you can ever and i mean ever is to move on, be with someone who will respect you and love you for who you are!

That is true, but a man who will cajole women into supporting him and then abandon them ... ! This man needs to quit leeching off the community! At the very least, he needs to have his powers of fascination stripped from him so that nobody else falls for his lies any more.

Get a picture of him and write all his sins all over the front and back. Then put it under a magnifying glass -- somewhere that the sun can shine on it without starting a fire. Call all his friends, family, and lady friends to witness! The light of TRUTH will be focused on him; it'll be a painful experience for him.

You should probably take a hyssop bath afterwards, just in case.

I suggest you do cut and clear spell which is available on the Lucky Mojo web.

You can find that spell here:

Cut and Clear spells and supplies
http://www.luckymojo.com/cutandclear.html

As bad as you feel now, you may want to do BOTH the spells on the page -- not just the one with the two candles and two lists, but start with the black walnut bath so you can forget him and banish him from your life.

Hope this helps,

Miss Michaele

Ladyski · Unread post by **Ladyski** » Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:39 am

Ok I am separated and my husband has threatened to take my car from me because I won't come back.... He knows I can't afford to pay it by myself and its in both our names... If I lose my car I loose my job my home and where I live there is no transportation at all... I don't suffer alone my kids have to be driven to school also... I know he is bitter but I want him to suffer for my pain... I have little money I bearly can pay my bills and we had an agreement that I would pay half and he would pay the other half cause it's in both our names... I want him to suffer for this I want him to crumble because he knows this is my life he is playing with.. I need help I don't even know where to start with this but I do want him to pay and suffer for a long time please help me with some ideas and some things to look up to start with... Thank you

Jaime Banks · Unread post by **Jaime Banks** » Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:05 pm

Ladyski,

I'd definately wish you the best upon this journey that you are dealinq with. Do I wish you the best for your husband....Thats not my part to do so. Beyond the point, I would definately find a Lawyer and beqin workinq a COURTCASE HJ, so your attorney and your husband can qet acquainted. I assume papers have been drawn out to your likinq. You definatley need some more insiqht upon your situation....here is a resource you may use. Do you have a AIRR reader or rootworker? You may want to hire one out of this site because you can purchase a readinq, write down some questions, and have them answered requardinq which Lucky Mojo products to use for your particular situation.....there is so much to work with here because I wish I can tell you the steps in order, but I can only recommmend 2.

1. Court Case Spell Kit and HJ to favour your cause:
http://www.luckymojo.com/courtcase.html

2. AIRR WEBSITE to hire and look at readers and rootworkers:
http://readersandrootworkers.org/wiki/A ... ootworkers

if you don't know where to head first, these people have the quidance you'll need to help in your situation....prolly even save your marriaqe too.

-TBanks91

Dr Johannes · Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:33 am

In a fight like this you should first consider removing his anger and all the negative energies, thoughts and emotions from yourself. These things will effectively block most kinds of progress in a fight.
When his anger is removed, he will be less inclined to fight you and his defences will be weakened. When you are clean you will feel much better and have the strenght to successfully work him as you like. He will also be less inclined to suspect any evil comming from you and would probably not engage some other worker in a war against you.
Start with removing your own things using Cut And Clear products, Chinese Wash and Buffalo Ammonia floor wash. Add Peaceful Home and Protection to the place where you live. Then use a Skull candle, a personal issue of his and Cast Of Evil or any other product that will remove or dampen his anger.
Once this is done you can start crossing his nature by using a Black Penis Candle and some crossing products, compel him to pay by using "Compelling Products" etc. Take care not to hurt his economy or ways of income, or you will get no money at all.
Best of luck to you.

cappy · Unread post by **cappy** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:17 am

I want to use a Crossing Bath against my ex to cause strife in his current situation.

how can i use the bath salts or herbs on him other than using them in his rinsewater for clothes or him having to be literaly bathed or showered? any suggestions?

is their another more convenient method or product to get the same effect of causing strife in his current relationship?

Mary Bee · Unread post by **Mary Bee** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:04 am

You can also take the bath crystals you have, dissolve them in water, put that bath crystal water in a little spray bottle and spray his front step, walkway, driveway, mailbox and yard all the while cursing him and his girlfriend to a life of fussing and fighting.

Sachet Powders are good for this. Get some CrossingSachet Powder and mix it with the local dirt, and sprinkle it on his doorstep and call out his name and his girl's name, saying "May they fight like cats and dogs" or whatever you want them to do. So that way, when they step in that powder/dirt, they track it into their home and it will cause fighting and crossed conditions.

After doing this sort of work, make sure you cleanse yourself to remove any sin. Take a bath in Hyssop tea while reciting the 51st Psalm.

Good luck,
Mary Bee

cappy · Unread post by **cappy** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:54 am

Thanx! Those are good ideas!

The only issue is that i don't know where their house is...only the street on which they live, which is about a quarter of a mile long.

Could this idea work if i was to sprinkle the dirt and powder from the sachet into his boots while he was visiting my home and say the curse as i sprinkle it inside?

Also, could it be strengthened with candle spellwork, such as writing their names on paper and anointing it with confusion/breakup oil and then tearing it apart and burning it and adding a bit of it in with the dirt from their neighborhood and the powder? (i am currently doing just such a spell)

Or is it best to do these separately?

Thanx for all of your great advice and insight, ms. marybee. i really appreciate it so much.

Mary Bee · Unread post by **Mary Bee** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:01 pm

Sprinkling Crossing powder (or lightly dusting it inside the boots) inside the shoes is a WONDERFUL idea! That's direct foot-track magic.

Your candle burning idea will definitely add to the energy to curse this guy.

You don't only have to do just one thing when doing spell work; multiple angles of attack on a situation add up to more chances of success!

Good luck,
Mary Bee

cappy · Unread post by **cappy** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:16 am

this is a basic rundown of the situation.i was assaulted in my homeafter my ex broke in, also with my babies witness to the whole ordeal.i pressed charges and he is currently out on bail and i still feel danger from this sorry excuse.he is due back in court soon but my fear also is that he will get off or minor punishment b/c he works closely with law enforcement and from outward appearances looks good an paper.does/can anyone recomend a paticular type of spellwork that may work best?or even maybe combination of spells to produce better results?i feel like he should suffer physical and financial ruin and a loss of social status for what he did.(he left off his job to do it and stalked the house until my mother left so it was only me n the kids there)would candle spell be enough?maybe a jar type spell?i think it should be something that can have the longest ongoing effect.please any thoughts from someone with experience.also ive been worried if i should get some protection for my home and family against any physical/spiritual danger from him and his family.i just want him tripped up legally and financially and physically.these r things that would cause great tribulation for him.

Miss Bri · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:43 am

I believe that protection for your home and family should be the FIRST priority here!
You can learn about types of protection amulets & spells here:
http://www.luckymojo.com/protectionspells.html

I would do legal work on him so that he is incarcerated again-candle rituals are good but in this case I feel like a container spell might be better for you-because you want it to have long term effects and you can work containers for a long time.
Blessings,
Bri

hapinys · Unread post by **hapinys** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:07 am

Never heard of container spells. Where could I find more info on it?

Thx

Devi Spring · Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:50 am

Container spells include: mojos, bottle spells, box spells, etc...

keysha · Unread post by **keysha** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:58 am

Cappy,
I understand your situation. It was recently brought to my attention my spouse has worked magick on me for years. That’s how he got me in the first place. The way I see it it’s time to pay the piper, he thought it was a great idea to bind me to him and abuse me for 11 years.
At first I felt like a sobbing victim. When there is a fall out he comes out of it smelling like a rose. I found inflammatory confusion work was being done in conjunction with work to cause me to be financially bound to him. I can’t leave etc. When I get a great paying job I lose it and when he abuses me and I seek help I look like a confused woman. No one would help me.
Basically I got tired of crying for help & not getting it so I believe it's the universes’ way of saying (to Me) STAND on your own two feet your stronger than you know and who can do this better for YOU than YOU NO ONE!
So…I first started with a freezer spell. http://www.luckymojo.com/freezer.html
Then I made a doll of him & his help and placed them in a mirror box http://www.luckymojo.com/uncrossing.html
I took his personal concerns (picture, under pants etc) and I started a vinegar jar with him and his family members helping him work on me including the steroid bimbo he had an affair with and I started burning a black candle on it. Destroy his alliance with his help.
I created a large vinegar jar for the house and a small vinegar vial/bottle to carry with me to shake when I feel the need. I made another jar and threw it in the river. I punctured a couple of holes in the lid and said as this bottle sinks so will everything you have done to hurt & harm me & my child will etc... As this bottle sinks and is carried away so will your Control, Dominance, Power & Influence in my life will sink and die. (Cords, attachments, spell etc.) Add what fits you.
Make a doll of him. Bind the doll. Blind fold, tie arms, hands, legs behind him, Goof him and bury him in the cemetery in a mirror box. If you’re afraid of the cemetery bury it in the forest in the roots of a tree. I don’t think it’s as strong as the cemetery but it’s a start until you get the courage to bury there.
I was told my work was heavy handed and I shouldn’t have gone this far. My personal opinion is what makes his life more important than mine & my child’s life. Sometimes when you have been abused you forget your strength power and that you can do something about it.
Honey you are clever and wiser than you think you are. Become a Mama bear. Be cool & slick as a fox. Don’t argue fight and don’t let your emotions get the best of you. Be calm & cool. Don’t let him see he rattled your cage. You got this.
Question:
Do you look good on paper? I ask because you mentioned he did.

Mama Micki · Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:34 pm

I don't usually do cursing or "dark" work, but if I someone (whether I knew him or not) assaulted me in my home and hurt my children in any way, I would have no qualms about using DUME. Such a man does not deserve to live. Might be too extreme for many, just my take on things.

melimel · Unread post by **melimel** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:28 am

I was wondering about this myself.. I want my ex to be single and miserable as long as he made me. Is there a spell or something that can be done for this? I want him to be miserable and have no one love him or be with him. Not forever but at least a couple years to make up for what he did to me (which was really bad and wrong).
Any suggestions?

aura · Unread post by **aura** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:03 am

Well, if you look in the HITAP page on freezer spells (http://www.luckymojo.com/freezer.html), Miss Cat has posted quite a nasty way to go about crossing up someone's sex life: ''The Case of the Frozen Cucumber''. That said, as she also states on the page:

This is a grievous spell, and the intention is harmful, so the work must be carefully performed and you'd better be prepared to tell God why you did it.

melimel · Unread post by **melimel** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:32 pm

The freezer spell doesnt not break people up.. the cucumber spell states I need semen which I do not have. Would it still work with a picture and name?

Id really like to just make everyone around him hate him and not want to be around him? What would be a good way to do this?

2nd Id like for him to just be miserable with himself and his life perhaps even with everyone around him? What would be good for this

This way I have worked both sides from himself looking out hating his surroundings and then also the outside people looking in hating to be around this person.

I did this once before years ago but have lost the spell I had for this.

I just want this persons life as miserable and lonely as POSSIBLE!!

Sholasalako · Unread post by **Sholasalako** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:40 am

Hey guys, just wanted to first of all spread some love and say a big thank you to Catherine the information on your website has been so insightful for a beginner like me, you have no Idea.

Ok well I recently broke up with a guy which was caused by his best friend. To cut the long story short, we happened to bump into each other and the best friend began beating me up in public, never in my life Have I ever felt so humiliated and down. he has been posting my number and details on craigslist and face book, I honestly feel I am not safe in certain places.
I know that my ex has an income by illegal means (fraud). I want to create a spell that will hex/curse both the ex and his best friend, I want the outcome to be

1) the ex and best friend life to be unbearable with no means of income, never catch a break and strings of bad luck
2)for them to be filled with so much guilt for what they put me through.
3) Although I would never consider taking him back, I want him to burn with desire and long for me back.

The products are daunting as there are so much that could be used, so I am not 100% sure. Which products would you recommend for the best result, and if anyone has been through a situation like this, wouldn't mind sharing and telling me how the outcome was.

Peace and love x

Shola x

Mary Bee · Unread post by **Mary Bee** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:46 pm

DId this guy "beat you up" physically? If so, please file a police report. And talk to a counselor or medical professional; you need to take care of yourself. Work a Fiery Wall of Protection spell on yourself and your property.

http://www.luckymojo.com/fierywall.html
In this case, you can do some Reversal work on these guys so that all the pain they caused you go right back to them. Putting them in a mirror box will have all their bad work and crimes reflect back to them.

http://www.luckymojo.com/reversing.html

Good luck

Sholasalako · Unread post by **Sholasalako** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:33 pm

Hello, Yes I did mean physically, I can say filing a police report will make 10x worse, I am talking about thugs. Thank you for your input marybee

MissNewConjure · Unread post by **MissNewConjure** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:46 pm

Hello All!

So obviously I'm coming to this part of the forum because I have been heartbroken by a guy I was involved with. He completely stopped talking to me and when I eventually confronted him about it, he told me he was talking to another girl and didn't want to be involved with me anymore.

I have done previous love work on him with candles and had great results but then things turned sour out of nowhere and quite suddenly, I see now that this was the reason why.

So my question is.. is there a spell I can do to make the new girl he is talking to (she is not his girlfriend) leave him? And perhaps repel any other girls? I did a freezer spell before and it seemed to have worked because I know the number of other girls he was talking to while being involved with me dropped but apparently the spell didn't stick.

I would also like to see if there is a way that I can also have him feel sorry for what he did to me, miss me, and think again about how he acted towards me.

I do not have any personal concerns of his, just his name and picture. As for her, I know NOTHING about her.. not even a first name.

If anyone can help me with this situation, that would be greatly appreciated!

Forest_Roots · Unread post by **Forest_Roots** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:52 pm

do you have a cursing altar or maybe a St. Martha altar?

As for your freezer spell, did you remove the jar (or whatever it was) from the freezer or is it still there?

Nolongerhere · Unread post by **Nolongerhere** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:17 am

I think someone cheating on you and then going quiet the day before Christmas Eve and never speaking to you again is rather justified in my opinion.

MissNewConjure · Unread post by **MissNewConjure** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:08 pm

I'm very new to this work so I don't really have any type of altar. I usually light my candles on my dresser and sit at my dining room table to prepare for my work. As for my freezer spell, I wrapped a piece of parchment paper inside aluminum foil and sealed it with black candle wax. I threw that out over 20 miles away from my house.

There has been a slight update with the situation, he has professed that he thinks about me and him but things are still continuing between him and the new girl. We actually did have an encounter about two weeks ago.. and I have some of his concerns dried on underwear.

So just to make clear, I do not know her name and they are just dating (they're not an official couple-- I assume this may be important because he keeps telling me that they are not together). What can I do to draw him away from her and to me?

Is a breakup candle naming him and her as my unnamed rival appropriate? I was thinking of a red skull candle while lighting a Come to Me candle as well.

Thanks for your help!

Turnsteel · Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:28 pm

Sol wrote:.

I think someone cheating on you and then going quiet the day before Christmas Eve and never speaking to you again is rather justified in my opinion.

Well, no actually. Just because someone did something horrid to you doesn't necessarily mean that you are meant to curse them, this is why root doctors almost always do a reading before any such work is considered.

catherineyronwode · Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:39 pm

If the curse is appropriate, then i'd do it. In other words, someone cheating and dumping you deserves punishment in like kind -- being cheated on and dumped -- or punishment that renders it impossible to commit the offense again -- total sexual impotence.

While i am all in favour of folks getting readings, i also believe that "working justified" does NOT mean you need a rootworker to tell you whether the work is justified.

Rather, i believe that "working justified" means meeting God, telling Him about your troubles, and asking that if He sees fit to punish the wrong-doer, then the punishment will fall.

Try Psalms 9 for starters:

The LORD is known by the judgment which he executeth:
The wicked is snared in the work of his own hands.
The wicked shall be turned into hell,

heartexalted · Unread post by **heartexalted** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:05 pm

ConjureMan Ali wrote:Take white skull candle. Carve it with "Your wickedness exposed to yourself." Dress it with Clarity oil and spinkle it with Sage so that it helps him see his mistakes and flaws. Place this candle on a bed of Salt and pray over the Salt that it bring his flaws to the surface so he can see his mistakes. Place the skull candle in front of a mirror and command it to take a good hard look at himself and that all his actions will reflect back on him. Light the candle.

As the candle is burning read Pslam 7: 14-16 "He who is pregnant with evil and conceives trouble gives birth to dilliusionment.."
As you are reading this Psalm heat up some pins and drive them into the skull. This will force him to see himself for what he really is.

Take the Salt and wax residue and toss it on his property or where he will walk.

I was thinking about this spell recently, and I had an idea: What about adding saltpeter to the mix? (Ya know, in order to "explode" delusions and give the spell an extra kick.)

starsinthesky7 · Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:18 am

You don't need a formal altar. As long as you have a cleansed space, or a working space. That is your altar. You can use a large cooking sheet, cover it with foil (easier to clean up) and use that as an altar.

Now where you messed up is throwing and disposing of the freezer spell. Once you take the freezer spell out of the freezer, the work stops working. I would keep it in there as long as you want the work to keep working. In other cases, you could throw out the freezer spell once you have reached your outcome, but if you want to actively and keep rivals away, then you need to keep it in there. So that is why this rival was able to stick around in my opinion. So you are going to want to redo that.

You can do the 3 candle moving spell located on the break up informational page. We have talked about 3 candle moving spells on the forum which you can do a search for that.

www.luckymojo.com/breakup.html

However, remember...what someone will do for you they will do to you again. He is having sex with you while he is with this girl. So you must expect him to do the same thing if and when he gets back with you. With that said, if and when you get him back...you need to address that as well.

Mama Micki · Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:57 am

You can also Cut and Clear and dump this cheater. Why waste more time, energy, money, and tears on him?

BellaMars · Unread post by **BellaMars** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:23 pm

Is there a particular day that its best to start this spell? How many nights should it be done? And would burning tobacco incense while working it be beneficial?

MissMichaele · Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:48 am

BellaMars wrote:Is there a particular day that its best to start this spell?

I see several choices: Tuesday, war; Wednesday, communication; Saturday, enemy work or restrictions.

How many nights should it be done?

Seven or nine nights -- or keep it up until you see results.

And would burning tobacco incense while working it be beneficial?

Tobacco, or Influence, or Commanding -- any or all.

Hope this helps,

Miss Michaele

Luckbewithme876 · Unread post by **Luckbewithme876** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:42 am

The Narcissist is a truly miserable person. They're said to feel a near constant anger. In their mind, they are God Himself/Herself, and the fact that the entire world is not bowing down to their infinite superiority is enough to cause them constant distress. I like ConjuremanAli's idea about forcing him to see himself as he truly is. I suffered Narcissistic abuse and I can tell you, Narcissists are some of the most miserable people in the world. They can never have real friendship, experience the benefits of family, never fall in love, they can never experience true happiness. True happiness comes from empathy and bonding with your fellow man/woman. So if trying to force him to see himself as he truly is, then you can at least know that he torments himself.

But if it doesn't work, I was wondering if there's a specific way to bind a Narcissist's ability to hurt people? Sort of like protection, but rather than placing blessings on people, you're cutting the danger off at its source.

MissMichaele · Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:07 pm

Luckbewithme876 wrote:I was wondering if there's a specific way to bind a Narcissist's ability to hurt people? Sort of like protection, but rather than placing blessings on people, you're cutting the danger off at its source.

I'd make a doll baby of him, blindfold, gag and hogtie it, and put it in a mirror box.

Miss Michaele

alex bettencourt · Unread post by **alex bettencourt** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:14 pm

Long story short, I'd like to cause my ex to see the truth of the situations he caused and have the awful realization of all the hurt that he delivered. No more than that--just for him to have the veil lifted from his eyes and the painful realization of the hurt he caused. Thoughts? Thank you in advance..

phonehappy · Unread post by **phonehappy** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:24 pm

Yes, I would like to know this as well.

nana664 · Unread post by **nana664** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:12 am

Check out this thread. I think you might find what you're looking for.

make-him-see-how-badly-he-treated-me-t19083.html

queen2be · Unread post by **queen2be** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:12 am

In this thread Conjureman Ali gives a brilliant suggestion for forcing someone to take a truthful and hard look at himself. It seems appropriate for what you're doing.

punishing-the-narcissist-t7501.html

emdeluxe · Unread post by **emdeluxe** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:33 pm

What herbs, oils, etc. would you use with the skull candle? I'm looking for a similar type of work to send pain back and give him miserable thoughts.

MissNewConjure · Unread post by **MissNewConjure** » Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:44 pm

I was reading up on reversal work and saw that you can use a reversal candle to make someone feel the same pain that they caused you.

I have a question.. Is there a way to do this candle so the person feels bad for how they treated you?

Thanks!

Mary Bee · Unread post by **Mary Bee** » Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:28 pm

You could add some Clarity oil to the Reversal candle so the person has mental clarity and understands how they did you wrong. Pray this into your petition as you work the candle.

Good luck,
Mary Bee

nowherelass · Unread post by **nowherelass** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:44 am

This is such a great spell! Perfect for when people need to see what they've become; sometimes a harsh reality check is the best curse, and very much needed. Is there a way to modify it so that the people/enablers in their life see them as they are? Because cursing with vinegar jars to ruin relationships is one thing, but what if you want the target's social status to reflect their actual behavior, so if they improve they'll earn back their friends?

MissMichaele · Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:54 pm

One old-fashioned way to make a mirror box is to line it with bits of broken mirrors. Of course, coverage of the walls of the box will not be 100% complete -- there will be a few little gaps.

You can touch these gaps with Cast Off Evil oil, saying, "The only way out of this box is REPENTANCE."

Hope this helps,

Miss Michaele

Turnsteel · Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:42 pm

MissMichaele wrote:One old-fashioned way to make a mirror box is to line it with bits of broken mirrors. Of course, coverage of the walls of the box will not be 100% complete -- there will be a few little gaps.

You can touch these gaps with Cast Off Evil oil, saying, "The only way out of this box is REPENTANCE."

Hope this helps,

Miss Michaele

Oh I like that! I make mirror boxes by joining mirror titles together, rather than breaking a mirror and gluing the broken pieces to the inside of a box, but that is such a clever idea Miss Michaele that I might just change my way

ldiaz909 · Unread post by **ldiaz909** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:08 pm

Hello all!!!
I apologize if this post is in the wrong area. I am really emotional right now, so sorry if rambling starts.
Long story short (ill try) i have known my boyfriend since 2006, he was sweet caring, etc...
We started our relationship January 2011, it was fine for a few months, then it became a cheating,lying,violent both physical and emotional. He even punched me in front of my mother and daughter. Mom called cops but he got out of it

He is a documented gang member and if I call the police and get a restraining order it will be WAY worse on me since i know a restraining order will only piss him off more he says people that rat deserve to die

he is a horrible, heartless person. he hurts a lot more people than just me. He is currently on parole but continues getting by with all the illegal things he is doing right under his parole agent nose.

Is there anything I can do to either make him get caught by police or parole agent? As soon as he goes to jail, i will be moving and changing phone numbers etc..asap.

I had my first reading with Ms.Cat a couple weeks ago. It was great she makes you feel at ease which i haven't felt in a while. She is amazing!!!
Unfortunately all the things she advised me to do i wrote down on a piece of paper that blew out of the window she agreed this person is dangerous
Sorry and thank everyone for taking the time to read this long post...just trying to cover basic info...

Mama Micki · Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:11 pm

Get the restraining order anyway (you do not need to involve the police; just file it at the courthouse (you may need to appear before a judge) and have him served), and remove him from your life. Block his phone, email, and texts. Move away now. Don't wait.

I would say that he deserves to be crossed up, but get to a place of safety first.

preppieroots · Unread post by **preppieroots** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:19 pm

The restraining order issue aside, you may want to look into mirror box work for this person. Make a doll baby of him, I hope you have some personal concerns of his, hair, dirty clothes, something.... hog tie the doll baby, blindfold it, and put it in a mirror box. I will find the links to the appropriate pages (mirror box, and doll babies) as there are in depth instructions and suggestions in those threads. The intended effect of doing this work is to cause any and all harmful behavior directed at you from this man to come back onto him, and the hogtying is to help stop him from acting out in the first place, the blindfold should keep him from "seeing/detecting" your work, whether in the mundane world (ie you getting that restraining order) or magically speaking. Though when he gets served the papers he will of course know that you filed for the restraining order, so there's really no avoiding him finding that out. Good luck and stay safe.

Mirror box thread
mirror-spells-and-mirror-box-spells-que ... t2140.html

Doll baby thread
doll-baby,-voodoo-doll,-poppet-question ... t8946.html

They're both long threads, but just go through them and you will find a ton of helpful information.

catherineyronwode · Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:43 pm

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Mama Micki · Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:34 am

I recommend that you pray Psalms 91 and 107, as well as reading the following Bible verse to assure yourself that God is on your side:

I hate a man's covering himself with violence as well as with his garment, says the LORD Almighty. Malachi 2:16 (NIV)

You could burn a Crossing vigil candle or a black candle dressed with Crossing oil. Take a picture of him and black out the eyes, then put the picture under the candle. (A trick I learned from the movie Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil.)

ldiaz909 · Unread post by **ldiaz909** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:15 am

Thank you everyone for your responses...

Without the worry of getting killed restraining order is not an option, so I play nice and walk on eggshells until I can move. I lost family and friends because of this man.
As this will be my first doll baby and mirror box, i sat for awhile reading all the wonderful posts in the above links as well as my own searches. Most of the roots and herbs that were used were for doll babies did not specifically meet what i will be using it for. I want to use the appropriate roots/herbs.

@mama micki. Thank you for the prayers i started a folder for myself and will be placing all info learned in there for future reference.

@preppieroots thank you for the links and just some one the wonderful things I can do

i have a few questions

1. What roots herbs shall I use for revenge work and to get him caught by police?

2. Can the box be any color? Or color specific?

3. Do I keep the doll in the box someplace dark or do I need to bury it?(not afraid of graveyards)

4. Any oils needed?

Thank you all again, and sorry for the questions i just want to make sure I use the correct items specifically for revenge. as I need this to work.