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Crescent City Conjure Gentlemen CHAT LOG on Candelo's Corner

On Mondays, Palo priest Candelo Kimbisa hosts the meeting place for all the world's spiritualities, with free Readings on the Corner for callers once a month.

Crescent City Conjure Gentlemen CHAT LOG on Candelo's Corner

Unread postby nagasiva » Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:29 pm

Candelo's Corner: The Gentlemen of Crescent City Conjure Join Us on the Corner!

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/candelosco ... the-corner

Hoodoo Sen Moise was raised in Southern Conjure. From the time he was a child, he was learning the work of conjure and hoodoo. He was learning about the spirit and how important the ancestors are in his life and work. He is also a Hougan (priest)in Haitian Vodou and Padre Nganga in Palo Mayombe. It is his desire to be a conduit of change, to help bring about change for those who have a desire for magic and spiritual work. Sen Elias is a priest in British Traditional Witchcraft. From a young age, he heard the call of the spirit and the power of magic began to move with him. He spent his life learning the arts of magic and spellwork so that he could create change in himself and others. He has a desire to bring the wonderful spirit of magic to those he comes in contact with. He and his spirits are strong and have the call to share the power of the work. Together, they bring to you, Crescent City Conjure, the culmination of their life's work and calling to be proponents of change...to be proponents of magic and work.

Tune in every Monday night on the LMC Radio Network for Candelo's Corner at 5pm PT, 8pm ET, online, call in by phone 646-478-5072 or 'Click-to-Talk' via a computer interface. Press '1' to be on the air and offer your opinions. Join in chat using a registered BlogTalkRadio account.

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2016-04-11 06:56:11 PM EFStill I thought you looked like Tom Petty, but now I think it might be Slash. :)
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2016-04-11 07:45:19 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll If there are dispositions in religion, and the religious are working with the spirits, do those tendencies represent the spirits and their biases?
2016-04-11 07:45:29 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll (been AFK, listening on phone)
2016-04-11 07:45:59 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Are those who work with the spirits representatives or not?
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2016-04-11 07:47:06 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll If there are prejudices against homosexuality or women in Palo, for example, might it be the will of the spirits? Or is it the bias of humans? How can we distinguish between these?
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2016-04-11 07:47:43 PM MichaelCorrell perhaps not, most dont ask the spirits and opperate on old traditions
2016-04-11 07:48:00 PM MichaelCorrell same thing with gay. I say ask Nkisi
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2016-04-11 07:48:17 PM Readings by Wen Resguardo?
2016-04-11 07:48:37 PM EFStill The talk of women makes me think about the shifts in mainstream religions on these issues--women ministers, etc. However, I am not sure to what extent practitioners of ATRs want to be "modern" or "progressive" vs. "traditional" as they define it.
2016-04-11 07:48:45 PM MichaelCorrell Resgurdo mean charm i believe
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2016-04-11 07:49:15 PM Readings by Wen Protection or something.
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2016-04-11 07:49:18 PM Readings by Wen Mojo hand
2016-04-11 07:49:27 PM Readings by Wen something to keep you from evil
2016-04-11 07:49:39 PM gari farmer I think people sometimes confuse their beliefs/biases/prejudices with what the spirits and/or deities desire.
2016-04-11 07:49:43 PM MichaelCorrell oft used for protection. my first Munaso had that
2016-04-11 07:49:43 PM the mali-kot and angolan ;)
2016-04-11 07:50:56 PM EFStill I think for some folks, the very fact of practicing an ATR is a means of embracing a culture beyond a spirituality, which brings with it all the structures and limits of that culture.
2016-04-11 07:51:12 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll With respect to those who call any of us "evil", i would ask them what types of *behaviour* they are talking about. It is possible that we might call similar things evils. Or, as was mentioned before, perhaps a larger view
2016-04-11 07:51:17 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll of nature would be needed.
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2016-04-11 07:53:01 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* HI!!
2016-04-11 07:53:07 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* im here how are ya all
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2016-04-11 07:53:28 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* Keisha was telling me the show was view tonight
2016-04-11 07:53:34 PM EFStill Hi, Emmy! We are thinking deep thoughts about gender, sexual orientation and spiritual practices. And dancing.
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2016-04-11 07:53:54 PM MichaelCorrell we embrace cultural prejudices
2016-04-11 07:54:07 PM MichaelCorrell alas
2016-04-11 07:54:09 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Is being biased about gender, sexual preference, or sex in association with spirits and spiritual authority a problem? Or is it just what it is?
2016-04-11 07:54:26 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll If a god is prejudiced, should that be fine? Or is there a problem with that god or spirit?
2016-04-11 07:54:31 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* ohhh
2016-04-11 07:54:34 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* what a good topic
2016-04-11 07:54:51 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* i was watching Candelos Facebook Live!! =) im loving the top hat
2016-04-11 07:54:53 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Do spirits, or gods, get to have preferences, biases, and prejudices?
2016-04-11 07:54:55 PM MichaelCorrell we have a topic?!
2016-04-11 07:54:59 PM EFStill Are these questions rhetorical?
2016-04-11 07:55:05 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll No.
2016-04-11 07:55:08 PM EFStill Because don't get me started. :)
2016-04-11 07:55:10 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Not rhetorical?
2016-04-11 07:55:15 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Not rhetorical.
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2016-04-11 07:55:20 PM the mali-kot or what that spirit's energy prefers to work with, so there fore it wants to work with spirits that fit with its own 'essence'
2016-04-11 07:55:34 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll I ask questions here so that people will provide their response, perhaps carry them into the sound-show.
2016-04-11 07:56:01 PM EFStill My mother always said we come back in alternating sex by incarnation, so bah humbug to prejudice.
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2016-04-11 07:56:14 PM Readings by Evan I believe that EFStill
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2016-04-11 07:57:06 PM EFStill I mean... just wait 100 years... :)
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2016-04-11 07:58:14 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* im loving watching Candelo live dancing in his chair
2016-04-11 07:58:22 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll The typical defense of it is: personal or social interest in specialization, like Women's Mysteries.
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2016-04-11 07:58:32 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* Wen you need to go to his FB Live
2016-04-11 07:58:50 PM EFStill ... patriarchy...
2016-04-11 07:58:55 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Those who seek to retain a coherency of similarity in common.
2016-04-11 07:59:09 PM Ghia see ya on periscope sound is scratchy on your side Candelo
2016-04-11 07:59:25 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll For example, women who want to be able to have a women's only ritual, or group, or lineage.
2016-04-11 07:59:30 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Or men who do.
2016-04-11 07:59:37 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Or people of a certain ethnicity.
2016-04-11 07:59:42 PM EFStill Or the music festival... Robert Bly...
2016-04-11 07:59:51 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Shall we tell them: "No, that's wrong."?
2016-04-11 08:00:58 PM EFStill I tend to think protected space for under-represented peoples is fine. HBCUs, women's colleges, all fine by me. Just my humble opinion.
2016-04-11 08:02:07 PM MichaelCorrell those who think a women only space is a "safe space" have not met many women
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2016-04-11 08:02:37 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll I think i get your point: those who are under-represented people may need protection so as to retain their own voice.
2016-04-11 08:02:43 PM the mali-kot riight, you need spiritual discernment to know who youre actually working with
2016-04-11 08:02:58 PM EFStill No, but women's spaces serve a purpose sometimes within a patriarchal society.
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2016-04-11 08:03:04 PM the mali-kot and many of these spirits ppl want to work with are very fiery and wrathful
2016-04-11 08:03:43 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* shes never came to me either
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2016-04-11 08:04:10 PM MichaelCorrell never met her but if she walked in...
2016-04-11 08:04:17 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* whos on the panel tonight?
2016-04-11 08:04:23 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Echo?
2016-04-11 08:04:28 PM Life115 im here emmy
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2016-04-11 08:04:31 PM MichaelCorrell gods do not recognize borders
2016-04-11 08:04:53 PM Readings by Wen Hey Em!
2016-04-11 08:05:15 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* Hey Keisha hi Wen
2016-04-11 08:05:24 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* HI Micheal =)
2016-04-11 08:05:27 PM Readings by Wen I have heard that before... If you're not of a certain color or you cannot prove your ineage, you could not belong to the ATRs.
2016-04-11 08:05:38 PM Readings by Wen Glad that's changed
2016-04-11 08:05:43 PM the mali-kot ^wow, really?
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2016-04-11 08:05:57 PM the mali-kot thats something else
2016-04-11 08:05:59 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* thats crazy Wen
2016-04-11 08:06:00 PM Readings by Wen link? :)
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2016-04-11 08:06:08 PM MichaelCorrell gods care not about skin color
2016-04-11 08:06:09 PM Readings by Wen Si, Em
2016-04-11 08:06:28 PM Readings by Wen Verizon commercial. lol
2016-04-11 08:06:58 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* they carry us!
2016-04-11 08:07:01 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* on their backs!!
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2016-04-11 08:07:08 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* and pave the road!
2016-04-11 08:07:23 PM gari farmer OMFG!!! Who is sending you...you know what? I don't think I want to know who's sending you that ***. :D
2016-04-11 08:08:27 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll I've heard a number of people who are part of religions explain that people who were not of certain sexual orientation, ethnicity, or gender could not "fully participate" in their group, line, or practices. We've heard it occasionally on
2016-04-11 08:08:33 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Candelo's Corner.
2016-04-11 08:08:45 PM Life115 eguns before anythimg else ache the blood calls
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2016-04-11 08:09:21 PM gari farmer The egguns are extremely important.
2016-04-11 08:09:24 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* its your blood line theres nothing stronger
2016-04-11 08:09:26 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll The explanation that the human beings aren't the spirits is good, but only goes so far.
2016-04-11 08:09:32 PM EFStill I watched "Shunned" last night about this woman who became Amish and then felt limited by her gender role and left. I was like...
2016-04-11 08:09:37 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* Ashe!!
2016-04-11 08:09:42 PM the mali-kot kalunga~
2016-04-11 08:10:54 PM MichaelCorrell i am scratched to Kalunga
2016-04-11 08:11:13 PM Life115 grand Mufti expand
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2016-04-11 08:14:10 PM MichaelCorrell i got 35yrs in
2016-04-11 08:14:54 PM the mali-kot @michaelcorrell - very nice :) thats heavy
2016-04-11 08:15:02 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll What does duration in a group, line, or religion tell us about a person?
2016-04-11 08:15:26 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* lol
2016-04-11 08:15:49 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Life115, expand on what? I'd be happy to.
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2016-04-11 08:16:27 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* im dying hes Dancing !! look at him getting down
2016-04-11 08:16:53 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Life115, There were contentions that the biases or prejudices were surely those of the human beings involved. If they are consistent from a group, line, or religion, should we presume all of the humans have these biases
2016-04-11 08:16:57 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll and none of the spirits?
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2016-04-11 08:17:49 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Above i asked if biases were a problem. I am not suggesting that they have to be.
2016-04-11 08:18:16 PM MartaCorrellLAc damn! i missed the part about women in palo! i have a lot to say about that ...
2016-04-11 08:18:34 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Say it now right here.
2016-04-11 08:18:44 PM MartaCorrellLAc lol
2016-04-11 08:18:57 PM MichaelCorrell yes, yes she does....
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2016-04-11 08:19:33 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll I'm interested. The depth discussion usually happens in the text.
2016-04-11 08:19:35 PM EFStill Well, if the Pope speaks for the God of Catholics, then I suppose it's a fair game for man to articulate the will of spirit. I'm not signing up for catechism class, though.
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2016-04-11 08:19:58 PM Readings by Wen May 14 & 15
2016-04-11 08:20:03 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll http://www.hoodooheritagefestival.com
2016-04-11 08:20:55 PM MartaCorrellLAc well, basically, i don't agree with the limitations. no one has been able to out-argue me. and with all due respect to my wonderful husband, his gender is why he was initiated as a tata nkisi recently
2016-04-11 08:21:13 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll For a free reading, call 646-478-5072, then press '1' to let the host know you want to be on the air! Announce your area code in the chat!
2016-04-11 08:21:31 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* alright!! lets hear some readings
2016-04-11 08:21:43 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Marta, is the limitation established by the spirits or the human beings?
2016-04-11 08:22:10 PM MartaCorrellLAc guess ...
2016-04-11 08:22:32 PM the mali-kot lol
2016-04-11 08:22:36 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll I would not care to.
2016-04-11 08:22:40 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll I don't know the spirits well enough.
2016-04-11 08:22:42 PM MichaelCorrell religion is human
2016-04-11 08:22:48 PM maggie 2719 Periscope cut off
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2016-04-11 08:22:56 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll I tend to make the gods responsible for their worshippers' behaviours.
2016-04-11 08:23:02 PM MartaCorrellLAc i should throw chamalongos and see what my lucero says
2016-04-11 08:23:02 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll ;)
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2016-04-11 08:24:06 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Based on usual adherent exposition, i'll guess that your answer is that the religion is being twisted in the direction it is because of the human beings who have been in charge of it.
2016-04-11 08:24:15 PM MichaelCorrell religions should evolve with humanity
2016-04-11 08:24:18 PM MartaCorrellLAc yes
2016-04-11 08:24:26 PM MartaCorrellLAc and yes
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2016-04-11 08:25:12 PM EFStill Some paleros obviously embrace modernity (Periscope!). :)
2016-04-11 08:25:20 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll I don't know that there is anything indicating that religions evolve, or that there is any natural or predictable development in terms of religions. Same with cultures, as anthropology has had to learn the hard way (post Lowie).
2016-04-11 08:25:22 PM MichaelCorrell especially bs since we have a gay Tata
2016-04-11 08:25:22 PM MartaCorrellLAc and the thing about menstuation is something i don't agree with, either
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2016-04-11 08:25:47 PM MichaelCorrell guess im out
2016-04-11 08:25:59 PM the mali-kot that seems to be a cultural belief, on menstruation
2016-04-11 08:26:27 PM MichaelCorrell in Witchcraft menstration is 'Holy time"
2016-04-11 08:26:28 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll There's a few views on that. Dualistic assertion can lead to eshewing or seeking out menstruation as a foreboding or power event.
2016-04-11 08:26:44 PM EFStill But if you argue against such rules, you can be seen as a consumerism new ager who wants what you want when you want it. It's a tough road.
2016-04-11 08:27:10 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll We then come back to the question of whether personal boundaries set out by groups of people in charge or who are making the religion are reasonable or justified.
2016-04-11 08:27:19 PM the mali-kot and on religon should change with time, it can be seen to change currently as we all type - because before i wouldnt imagine any paleros discussing homosexuality
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2016-04-11 08:27:37 PM MichaelCorrell gods are not prejudiced
2016-04-11 08:27:41 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Are those who seek to become part of particular type of group and seek to expand or change it legitimate?
2016-04-11 08:27:55 PM EFStill A previous co-host of this show was very clear in his views against gays in Palo.
2016-04-11 08:28:02 PM the mali-kot ah true....
2016-04-11 08:28:06 PM the mali-kot i remember
2016-04-11 08:28:13 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll When native americans tell me that as a White Man i should not be interested in or try to become part of their religion or culture are they justified? They've been harmed by White Men.
2016-04-11 08:28:16 PM MartaCorrellLAc i don't think the nkisi really cares if i'm menstuating.
2016-04-11 08:28:25 PM the mali-kot LOL ok
2016-04-11 08:28:27 PM MichaelCorrell unfortunately our show on gay paleros didnt go out live
2016-04-11 08:28:39 PM the mali-kot maybe for the better? haha
2016-04-11 08:28:43 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Rebroadcast it, Michael.
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2016-04-11 08:29:15 PM MartaCorrellLAc yeah, i'd like to hear it again, mike
2016-04-11 08:29:30 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll If someone wants to make a club of insulated specialists and exclude those who are not like them or who threaten them, shouldn't it be their privilege?
2016-04-11 08:29:32 PM MichaelCorrell when Santisima Muerte waltzed into my life she didn't care what my race was. She demanded recognition
2016-04-11 08:29:50 PM the mali-kot well she is Death
2016-04-11 08:29:52 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Should all social groups become co-exist-ants?
2016-04-11 08:29:53 PM Life115 (}) my hands up it Kieshia on the phone
2016-04-11 08:29:58 PM the mali-kot n everyone dies
2016-04-11 08:30:15 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Life115, what area code?
2016-04-11 08:30:19 PM MichaelCorrell perhaps if the religion had one main body to decide such things, Palo does not
2016-04-11 08:30:38 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Should all religions be egalitarian, broad-minded, and inclusive?
2016-04-11 08:30:42 PM the mali-kot the thing is about native americans - they should have a say defnitely because as you mentioned they view white europeansas a threat - i would say their suspicion is warranted
2016-04-11 08:30:46 PM EFStill Hmmm. Native Americans have been very harmed by Europeans in a structural and political sense. That seems a different threat than that posed by menstruating women and flirtatious bisexuals.
2016-04-11 08:30:59 PM the mali-kot ^right
2016-04-11 08:31:00 PM Life115 516
2016-04-11 08:31:01 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Should all gods be accessible to all people regardless of their initiatic status?
2016-04-11 08:31:24 PM the mali-kot if youre called, genuinely
2016-04-11 08:31:29 PM MichaelCorrell yes gods have no borders. that's a human thing
2016-04-11 08:31:33 PM Readings by Wen Candela!
2016-04-11 08:31:33 PM MartaCorrellLAc in an oral tradition like palo, beliefs often take on the prejudices of the speaker, who's heard the same from their elder, etc, etc
2016-04-11 08:31:47 PM the mali-kot and the devotees that speak with those deities should be able to discern that truth in your spirit
2016-04-11 08:31:55 PM the mali-kot if youre valid to practice
2016-04-11 08:32:04 PM MartaCorrellLAc not beliefs, i meant teachings
2016-04-11 08:32:15 PM MichaelCorrell yup what she said
2016-04-11 08:32:36 PM Readings by Wen WOW echooooooooooooooo
2016-04-11 08:32:39 PM EFStill I don't know what gods want or what they really care about.
2016-04-11 08:32:41 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Don't initiatic traditions have the right to privacy, gating to engagement to their gods or spirits?
2016-04-11 08:32:42 PM Readings by Wen better now :)
2016-04-11 08:33:12 PM the mali-kot for me as an indigenous person, yes
2016-04-11 08:33:25 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Must they acknowledge the authority of those priestesses and priests outside of their lineage(s)?
2016-04-11 08:33:26 PM EFStill Sure, but not all secret societies have podcasts, so here we are. :)
2016-04-11 08:33:34 PM the mali-kot lol yeah^
2016-04-11 08:33:58 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Lots of sound challenge.
2016-04-11 08:33:58 PM Emilie Moe *Emmy* MOE!?
2016-04-11 08:34:11 PM the mali-kot static***
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2016-04-11 08:35:30 PM MichaelCorrell traditions that have no central branch to decide policy have no doctrine
2016-04-11 08:35:41 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll There's priest-only trads, and some have attempted priestess-only trads. Rites have come into controversy of late in an attempt to set out boundaries of this type (with hot and fiery opinions on biology and technology).
2016-04-11 08:36:01 PM EFStill Some people can be really dogmatic, whichever path they choose.
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2016-04-11 08:37:22 PM MichaelCorrell i attempmted an anarchistic trad...that didnt work. there are leaders and there are followers.
2016-04-11 08:37:31 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll 516 wants a reading.
2016-04-11 08:37:41 PM Life115 yes i do
2016-04-11 08:37:45 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Readings by Evan.
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2016-04-11 08:38:27 PM MartaCorrellLAc evan! (F)
2016-04-11 08:38:50 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll So if a tradition or set of lines decides that men shouldn't be part of the authority, or that women shouldn't, are they wrong? Should they be treating people equally?
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2016-04-11 08:39:37 PM EFStill I guess my question would be why join a practice if you are not ever going to be a full participant?
2016-04-11 08:39:44 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Is there a cosmic morality advocating for equality and egalitarianism? Is Cosmic Morality at work? Does God want us to obey the law, be friendly, and share power?
2016-04-11 08:40:04 PM MichaelCorrell religion should evolve with its people. so yes equal is the way of the day.
2016-04-11 08:40:10 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll EFStill, the issue is whether you should be able to have that full participation if others who are part of it aren't letting you.
2016-04-11 08:40:14 PM MartaCorrellLAc well, i have a hard time with groups that exclude men
2016-04-11 08:40:19 PM Readings by Wen 910 :) <--- me
2016-04-11 08:40:21 PM MartaCorrellLAc not just women
2016-04-11 08:40:37 PM MichaelCorrell god wants to free us. i dont believe in restrictive gods
2016-04-11 08:40:59 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll What about women-only groups who exclude transsexuals?
2016-04-11 08:41:27 PM MartaCorrellLAc i don't support those groups
2016-04-11 08:41:43 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll These groups should have to allow others in whom they are trying to exclude? I can understand EFStill's contention that under-represented peoples should be able to have a protected space. Doesn't that make sense?
2016-04-11 08:41:54 PM Life115 yes i agree grand
2016-04-11 08:42:13 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll That you don't support them is different than whether or not they are wrong.
2016-04-11 08:42:14 PM MichaelCorrell oh Z Budapest.... i think she is a lowwer form of life
2016-04-11 08:42:26 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll She's not, i've met her. She's a human being.
2016-04-11 08:42:31 PM EFStill Access is not something that can be legislated, so I don't see a "should" here. I know that as a bisexual female I am unwelcome in many places. However, truth is in lots of places, and I will look where I think I see it, I guess.
2016-04-11 08:43:22 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll EFStill, I have trouble supporting shoulds also, which is why i question them when they seem to be coming up, whether biased to exclusion, or biased to inclusion.
2016-04-11 08:43:22 PM MichaelCorrell again women only groups as safe space are called so by people who dont know womwn.
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2016-04-11 08:44:07 PM MichaelCorrell ive met her too and she said men were a lower form of life, so i give her that back
2016-04-11 08:44:22 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Now i know where you are getting that, gotcha.
2016-04-11 08:44:22 PM MartaCorrellLAc that does make sense to me, the way that BLM makes sense and why i dislike the "all lives matter" retort, but i still don't support groups that exclude transgebder women
2016-04-11 08:44:36 PM the mali-kot ^likewise
2016-04-11 08:44:51 PM Readings by Wen ?
2016-04-11 08:44:51 PM MartaCorrellLAc sorry, typing fast
2016-04-11 08:44:53 PM EFStill Women's spaces can be powerful. I attended a women's college. The president of the science club was a woman, always. The curriculum always included women, etc. Transwomen should be welcome, in my opinion.
2016-04-11 08:44:56 PM Readings by Wen cannot hear
2016-04-11 08:45:25 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Marta, I appreciate your cautious expression of what you support and what you do not. I can respect it as a compassionate engagement.
2016-04-11 08:45:50 PM MichaelCorrell women are still catty, regardless of the space
2016-04-11 08:45:57 PM MartaCorrellLAc lol
2016-04-11 08:46:06 PM EFStill Um...
2016-04-11 08:46:14 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll My questions are pointed in ways which i expect out of males, and have experienced with forceful and striking interests.
2016-04-11 08:46:40 PM Readings by Wen :)
2016-04-11 08:47:03 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll It's tough to grapple with boundary-setting and exclusion. Difficult issues.
2016-04-11 08:47:21 PM the mali-kot quit the room
2016-04-11 08:47:25 PM EFStill Women's spaces and HBCUs can train future kickass leaders. The goals of religion and spiritual practices are usually different.
2016-04-11 08:47:30 PM MichaelCorrell gods dont exclude
2016-04-11 08:47:54 PM Life115 tell us
2016-04-11 08:49:04 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Sen Elias Crescent City Conjure http://www.crescentcityconjure.com http://www.facebook.com/senelias crescentcityconjure@gmail.com
2016-04-11 08:50:17 PM MichaelCorrell poof
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2016-04-11 08:50:50 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Birch Tree // Michael Correll http://www.thesacredgrovestore.com https://www.facebook.com/BirchTreeCraft https://www.facebook.com/BirchTree13 https://www.facebook.com/TheSacredGroveSantaCruz
2016-04-11 08:51:20 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll 913-828-2042
2016-04-11 08:51:31 PM MartaCorrellLAc the FB page is now called "The Sacred Grove California"
2016-04-11 08:51:37 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Candelo Kimbisa http://www.facebook.com/candeloscornerradio http://www.kimbisa.org http://www.hoodoopsychics.com extension 1362
2016-04-11 08:51:41 PM Life115 :D
2016-04-11 08:51:50 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll "May all the eguns and shadows that accompany you have all the necessary light!"
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2016-04-11 08:51:56 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Thanks Marta, i'll adjust that.
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2016-04-11 08:52:04 PM EFStill I hope everyone has a good week!
2016-04-11 08:52:08 PM catherine yronwode Thanks for a great show!
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2016-04-11 08:52:15 PM Grand Mufti of Satanism- Troll Very interesting show!
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2016-04-11 08:52:37 PM dragon gypsee Go well all!!! Thank you for another great show!!!!
2016-04-11 08:52:39 PM EFStill A new term... "palosplaining"... :)
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2016-04-11 08:52:58 PM Readings by Evan Thanks guys again so much!!
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