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Corner CHAT LOG: Using Spirits in Your Divination

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Corner CHAT LOG: Using Spirits in Your Divination

Unread postby nagasiva » Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:23 pm

Candelo's Corner: Using Spirits in Your Divination

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/candelosco ... divination

Using spirits in your divination. How many of you call on your ancestors or other spirits when divining your future? Many cultures believe that it is from the world of spirit that this information comes from. Tonight Candelo and Michael will discuss some of the methods and techniques for divining with spirit. We welcome your calls and ideas and we will see you in the chat room.

Tune in every Monday night on the LMC Radio Network for Candelo's Corner at 5pm PT, 8pm ET, online, call in by phone 646-478-5072 or 'Click-to-Talk' via a computer interface. Press '1' to be on the air and offer your opinions. Join in chat using a registered BlogTalkRadio account.

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2016-06-13 06:52:33 PM Candelos Corner Radio enter the room
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2016-06-13 06:56:31 PM MichaelCorrell poof
2016-06-13 06:56:59 PM MichaelCorrell poof
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2016-06-13 06:57:37 PM RHM Dena Server must be acting up tonight
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2016-06-13 06:58:16 PM MichaelCorrell hi yall
2016-06-13 06:58:48 PM MichaelCorrell Eye of Newt ;)
2016-06-13 06:59:19 PM Papa Newt I iz watchin'!
2016-06-13 06:59:27 PM MichaelCorrell lol
2016-06-13 06:59:45 PM MichaelCorrell by which eye
2016-06-13 07:00:05 PM Papa Newt Yes.
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2016-06-13 07:00:12 PM Papa Newt :)
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2016-06-13 07:00:45 PM ProfPorterfield yes the BTR servers are acting up some.
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2016-06-13 07:00:55 PM FreedomToBeInTheKnow Hi All.
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2016-06-13 07:01:04 PM MichaelCorrell ugh
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2016-06-13 07:01:14 PM Papa Newt There it goes
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2016-06-13 07:01:44 PM MichaelCorrell cock a doodle do
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2016-06-13 07:02:01 PM MichaelCorrell woof
2016-06-13 07:02:21 PM Papa Newt BTR servers are throwing a temper tantrum.
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2016-06-13 07:02:46 PM FreedomToBeInTheKnow patience, dear Watson.
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2016-06-13 07:03:16 PM TwoMoons Aloha everyone. That was a bitch trying to get the page to load.
2016-06-13 07:03:19 PM AngeliqueLuna Having issues. Hello everyone!
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2016-06-13 07:03:24 PM TwoMoons I gave up yesterday after a half hour.
2016-06-13 07:03:48 PM MichaelCorrell and we pay for this?!
2016-06-13 07:03:54 PM MartaCorrellLAc no audio here
2016-06-13 07:03:59 PM AngeliqueLuna ARGH!
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2016-06-13 07:04:06 PM MichaelCorrell none here
2016-06-13 07:04:20 PM Papa Newt Try refreshing? I'm listening via phone and the opening music is playing.
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2016-06-13 07:04:53 PM MichaelCorrell call in and listen on phone for now. dont press 1
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2016-06-13 07:05:18 PM TwoMoons i've got audio
2016-06-13 07:05:26 PM LibraGoddess so do I
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2016-06-13 07:07:00 PM FreedomToBeInTheKnow thanks, michael
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2016-06-13 07:08:39 PM TwoMoons Weird. I haven't heard anything like that. Glad to hear you say that Candelo.
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2016-06-13 07:10:45 PM TwoMoons Well said Michael, thank you.
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2016-06-13 07:11:14 PM Ghia (})
2016-06-13 07:11:23 PM gari farmer For some reason the audio looped back to where I first logged in. Hunh. 8-|
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2016-06-13 07:11:46 PM MichaelCorrell refresh worked
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2016-06-13 07:12:43 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Divination? Yes, many people use their own cognizance and power.
2016-06-13 07:12:51 PM gari farmer Did that just now.
2016-06-13 07:12:52 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti It's like comparing theurgy and thaumaturgy.
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2016-06-13 07:13:21 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti The theurgy thing depends upon gods for its effect. Thaumaturgy depends upon the MAGICIAN for the effect. Some theurgists don't believe thaumaturgy is possible.
2016-06-13 07:13:30 PM TwoMoons And there goes Troll Towelhead throwing out vocabulay I now have to google lol
2016-06-13 07:13:32 PM AngeliqueLuna OMG! It fricking took forever to get in
2016-06-13 07:13:42 PM BonesShellsAndCurios quit the room
2016-06-13 07:13:46 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Many devoted religious believe that you can only do magic if your god approves.
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2016-06-13 07:13:58 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti A number of magicians or witches think that this is a limited view.
2016-06-13 07:14:07 PM Star1 quit the room
2016-06-13 07:14:12 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti The issues are usually moral.
2016-06-13 07:14:14 PM TwoMoons Ah.
2016-06-13 07:14:15 PM AngeliqueLuna Just found out my mother worked with the women whose son was texting from the club. just to find out he died
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2016-06-13 07:14:51 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Religion sets limits and makes it important to consult with the deity before taking magical or religious action.
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2016-06-13 07:16:16 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti From an agnostic perspective, i learned abstractly with psychological ideas from Jung or others who indicated that it was "the unconscious mind" responsible for information and/or result.
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2016-06-13 07:16:57 PM Readings by Wen I finally made it! Buenas noches everyone
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2016-06-13 07:17:08 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Some believe that magic requires spirit(s). I talked with a Christian the other day about the Oboo on the lawn here and asked what i meant by "spirit (of the place)". He said, "You mean a demon?"
2016-06-13 07:17:26 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti I said: That's a GREAT reframing. Yes, that's a 'demon of the place'.
2016-06-13 07:17:30 PM TwoMoons (6)
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2016-06-13 07:17:52 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti And a number of those who have moral religion have interpreted magic as REQUIRING DEMONS to work.
2016-06-13 07:18:11 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti I.e. unlicensed magic needs anti-moral spirits.
2016-06-13 07:18:21 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti And the priest(s) are licensed by the Supergod.
2016-06-13 07:18:46 PM AngeliqueLuna HUGS WEN!
2016-06-13 07:18:54 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti They presume that all non-Supergod licensed individuals are corrupted, immoral, and anti-moral.
2016-06-13 07:19:12 PM Papa Newt http://www.herb-magic.com/acacia-leaves.html
2016-06-13 07:19:37 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti This is a dualistic and supremacist religious perspective.
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2016-06-13 07:20:04 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti I've learned to consider such supremacist religion, when expressed to the public, as abjectly evil.
2016-06-13 07:20:24 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti But does divination need spirit(s)? Why should it?
2016-06-13 07:20:48 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Is that because the Supergod must say it's ok?
2016-06-13 07:21:32 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Religious-based divination probably varies.
2016-06-13 07:21:47 PM Readings by Wen Hey Angelique! Thought of you with the Orlando thing
2016-06-13 07:22:02 PM Papa Newt http://www.herb-magic.com/frankincense.html http://www.herb-magic.com/copal-oro.html http://www.herb-magic.com/copal-negro.html
2016-06-13 07:22:04 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti But divination on its own? Why can't a human being do it (or magic) on its own?
2016-06-13 07:22:10 PM BonesShellsAndCurios enter the room
2016-06-13 07:22:23 PM Papa Newt What about the term Spirit of Divination?
2016-06-13 07:22:45 PM AngeliqueLuna It is hard. I have to make sure to be taking cleansing baths. The emotions are high. Lot of saddness
2016-06-13 07:23:05 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti It may imply that the reader partakes of or becomes something divine, yes.
2016-06-13 07:23:18 PM Readings by Wen :('
2016-06-13 07:23:20 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti That sets divination into the framework of religion.
2016-06-13 07:23:52 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Spirit of Divination is used amongst some ceremonialists and witches. There are also 'spirits of (the tool(s))'.
2016-06-13 07:24:02 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti "The Spirit of the Tarot"
2016-06-13 07:26:08 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Yes, charge and silk relates to mesmer and nuveau-science.
2016-06-13 07:26:14 PM Ghia wow Michael never knew thats about the silk thanks
2016-06-13 07:26:21 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Insulating materials. Glass for instance.
2016-06-13 07:26:30 PM Readings by Wen Herbs: jinx breaker, ghost chaser, paradise, road opener
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2016-06-13 07:27:13 PM Papa Newt Gracias, Readings by Wen.
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2016-06-13 07:28:09 PM Readings by Wen :) de nada, Papa Newt
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2016-06-13 07:28:28 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Maybe if you're really powerful you can do a reading anywhere.
2016-06-13 07:29:01 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti It's kinda like supplemental power. Maybe if you're really powerful you don't need spirits or a religious context or backing.
2016-06-13 07:29:19 PM Ghia nice tune for now :)
2016-06-13 07:29:41 PM Ghia :'(
2016-06-13 07:29:59 PM Papa Newt Entendí algunas palabras que dijo.
2016-06-13 07:30:09 PM Papa Newt (Hope that's correct. :D )
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2016-06-13 07:30:31 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti So the issue is: is anything required? Is some of it a power-up option? Does any of it indicate one's position or status?
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2016-06-13 07:33:16 PM Readings by Wen :) tan lindo, Papa Newt
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2016-06-13 07:34:22 PM Papa Newt Intento.
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2016-06-13 07:35:24 PM Papa Newt :)
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2016-06-13 07:36:13 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Is this like the Irish: restrictions to make it work?
2016-06-13 07:36:22 PM Readings by Wen Lumpy pillowcase!
2016-06-13 07:36:28 PM ceo 3 quit the room
2016-06-13 07:36:32 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti "Can't have the horseshoe points-up"?
2016-06-13 07:36:37 PM AngeliqueLuna Where does Martha Sleep?
2016-06-13 07:36:37 PM ceo 3 enter the room
2016-06-13 07:36:40 PM AngeliqueLuna LOL
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2016-06-13 07:36:55 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti These kinds of rules are interesting. They appear to be restricted, culturally; it varies.
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2016-06-13 07:37:19 PM Readings by Wen oh-oh
2016-06-13 07:37:32 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Divination devices being part of your dreamworld is interesting.
2016-06-13 07:38:31 PM Readings by Wen wait, what?
2016-06-13 07:38:32 PM Ghia o gosh!!!!
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2016-06-13 07:39:37 PM Readings by Wen Makes sense
2016-06-13 07:39:50 PM Papa Newt It's archived. :)
2016-06-13 07:39:52 PM catherine yronwode Same thing with the Infant of Prague -- folks leave him in the sun in the courtyard with no water until he comes through -- in the Philippines, i was told (by a woman from the FPilippines).
2016-06-13 07:39:58 PM Papa Newt Just sayin'. :D
2016-06-13 07:40:13 PM catherine yronwode Similar to burying Saint Joseph.
2016-06-13 07:40:15 PM ceo 3 quit the room
2016-06-13 07:40:15 PM Papa Newt Hello, miss cat!
2016-06-13 07:40:16 PM Readings by Wen lol @ Michael
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2016-06-13 07:40:38 PM Readings by Wen Hey ms. cat!
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2016-06-13 07:40:52 PM Readings by Wen Does St. Joseph get buried until he sells your house? Or is that for finding a job?
2016-06-13 07:40:57 PM GeorgeAcosta0 I hear it's alright to let your Ellegua be in the sunlight, but before the sun reaches high noon (IE the morning sun), I was never told against taking them out but warned against leaving them outside
2016-06-13 07:41:17 PM Readings by Wen Yikes, Michael
2016-06-13 07:41:39 PM Ghia 8-|
2016-06-13 07:41:56 PM catherine yronwode Buried upside down to sell a house.
2016-06-13 07:42:07 PM Readings by Wen got ya. Thanks, ms. cat
2016-06-13 07:42:43 PM Papa Newt It's that discomfort to get him working faster.
2016-06-13 07:43:06 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Yes one may begin to wonder how they can subject them to discomfort if they regard them with respect.
2016-06-13 07:43:07 PM Papa Newt But when the house is sold... dig him back up and give him some honor and thanks.
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2016-06-13 07:43:32 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti With a demon, people say that they can justify it because the demon is immoral, so it deserves to be tormented.
2016-06-13 07:44:06 PM catherine yronwode Yes, and people tell me that they also take the hands off the Infant of Prague (they are made w/ detachable hands) for the same reason -- "You can't have your hands back until you come through!"
2016-06-13 07:44:21 PM catherine yronwode Right, Papa Newt.
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2016-06-13 07:44:36 PM Readings by Wen Maraca!
2016-06-13 07:44:37 PM catherine yronwode Maraca
2016-06-13 07:44:44 PM Papa Newt Or the Saint Anthony statues with the removable baby Jesus.
2016-06-13 07:44:49 PM AngeliqueLuna shake, shake, shake
2016-06-13 07:44:50 PM Tata Longshot Good afternoon, Nsala Malecu, and whuddup
2016-06-13 07:44:58 PM catherine yronwode Right, Papa Newt!
2016-06-13 07:45:13 PM Readings by Wen I've heard of that, Papa Newt
2016-06-13 07:45:33 PM catherine yronwode shake-a-shake-a-shake-a-shake
2016-06-13 07:45:44 PM BonesShellsAndCurios enter the room
2016-06-13 07:46:09 PM catherine yronwode in Europe, bell to attract or repel spirits, based on the rythm and empo.
2016-06-13 07:46:16 PM catherine yronwode empo = tempo
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2016-06-13 07:46:47 PM Papa Newt flamboyant tree https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... nciana.jpg
2016-06-13 07:46:55 PM catherine yronwode http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/2755/#b Pea family
2016-06-13 07:47:05 PM catherine yronwode Royal Poinciana, Flamboyant Tree, Flame Tree, Peacock Flower, Gulmoha
2016-06-13 07:47:30 PM catherine yronwode It is related to the Carob, Locust, and other pea-family trees.
2016-06-13 07:47:38 PM Ghia I gotta get them they are all over!!!
2016-06-13 07:48:19 PM Ghia I need that!!!]
2016-06-13 07:48:30 PM Ghia in full bloom now
2016-06-13 07:48:56 PM catherine yronwode Family: Caesalpiniaceae (ses-al-pin-ee-AY-see-ee) (in the Legume (Pea) family -- and one that you can sing to the tune of Ta-Rah-Rah-BOOM-Dee-Ay.
2016-06-13 07:52:03 PM BonesShellsAndCurios I could not get BTR to work so I am listeningon the phone and watching the chat room.
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2016-06-13 07:54:43 PM catherine yronwode I am having NO trouble - listening via Firefox.
2016-06-13 07:54:43 PM Readings by Wen I'm doing the same, Michele
2016-06-13 07:54:53 PM Ghia when???
2016-06-13 07:55:06 PM catherine yronwode Past life regressionist tea party. What fun!
2016-06-13 07:55:10 PM catherine yronwode WHEN?
2016-06-13 07:55:27 PM Ghia I am when???
2016-06-13 07:55:32 PM catherine yronwode WHEN???
2016-06-13 07:55:44 PM Readings by Wen Sat. June 18
2016-06-13 07:55:44 PM catherine yronwode Saturday
2016-06-13 07:56:00 PM Readings by Wen I can listen to both of you but I'm listening via phone
2016-06-13 07:56:04 PM catherine yronwode We are totally hearing you!!!!
2016-06-13 07:56:04 PM AngeliqueLuna what time?
2016-06-13 07:56:05 PM catherine yronwode YES!
2016-06-13 07:56:15 PM Ghia groovy let me know where and when ghiagovinda@gmail.com :)
2016-06-13 07:56:18 PM AngeliqueLuna listening
2016-06-13 07:56:20 PM gari farmer I can hear you on my computer, praise be.
2016-06-13 07:56:33 PM Ghia I am free after 12
2016-06-13 07:57:25 PM catherine yronwode Coffin Service. Guy would jump into a coffin, give out lucky numbers, and prefesy.
2016-06-13 07:57:37 PM catherine yronwode prophesies.
2016-06-13 07:57:49 PM catherine yronwode No coffin services for Candelo.
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2016-06-13 07:59:34 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Lefty, coffin ceremonies. Thelema. People in coffins in rituals is not uncommon.
2016-06-13 07:59:53 PM Papa Lou enter the room
2016-06-13 08:00:05 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti What *IS* hocus pocus?
2016-06-13 08:00:12 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Is it like mumbo jumbo?
2016-06-13 08:00:57 PM Ghia :P troll
2016-06-13 08:01:01 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti How does science prove things?
2016-06-13 08:01:26 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti The reason i ask is that 'mumbo jumbo' is a ridicule of things African.
2016-06-13 08:01:32 PM Ghia all is vibration and numbers
2016-06-13 08:01:41 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Kinda like using the term 'superstition' to refer to the religious of others.
2016-06-13 08:03:03 PM Ghia it is spiritual computer intentions work
2016-06-13 08:03:23 PM Mani C Price GEDMATCH.COM - put the DNA file zip and it gives you not just modern but archaic DNA
2016-06-13 08:04:00 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti HOCUS POCUS (Google) says: "early 17th century: from hax pax max Deus adimax, a pseudo-Latin phrase used as a magic formula by conjurors."
2016-06-13 08:04:40 PM GeorgeAcosta0 *starts dancing*
2016-06-13 08:04:45 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti MUMBO JUMBO (Google says): "mid 18th century (as Mumbo Jumbo, denoting a supposed African idol): of unknown origin; the current sense dates from the late 19th century."
2016-06-13 08:05:24 PM Ghia Egun guns Goons
2016-06-13 08:06:45 PM Ghia an adulteration of culture....by language distortion meanings
2016-06-13 08:07:11 PM Ghia I find Egunguns fascinating
2016-06-13 08:07:36 PM Ghia now that I know what they are
2016-06-13 08:07:49 PM Ghia spirits
2016-06-13 08:07:56 PM Readings by Wen Tata Candelo, I have a song stuck in my head but Idk what the name is: "Negro que me de la mano, tiene que ser negro fino... Blanco que me de la mano tiene que ser gangulero como yo..."
2016-06-13 08:08:39 PM Readings by Wen Negro kino?
2016-06-13 08:08:49 PM Readings by Wen fino*
2016-06-13 08:08:53 PM Readings by Wen gracias, Tata
2016-06-13 08:09:01 PM Readings by Wen awesome. Thank you
2016-06-13 08:09:22 PM Razi El enter the room
2016-06-13 08:09:33 PM catherine yronwode Yes, the nasal-sounding guy!
2016-06-13 08:09:43 PM Razi El sala maleku
2016-06-13 08:09:57 PM catherine yronwode For God's sake, Michael, you are braodcasting. W HEAR YOU
2016-06-13 08:10:48 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Conventional meaning for 'mumbo jumbo': "confusing or meaningless words or activity"
2016-06-13 08:11:01 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Conventional meaning for 'hocus pocus': "confusing or meaningless words or activity"
2016-06-13 08:11:05 PM Ghia quit the room
2016-06-13 08:11:07 PM BonesShellsAndCurios Yes!
2016-06-13 08:11:09 PM Readings by Wen awesome!!! Marta
2016-06-13 08:11:25 PM BonesShellsAndCurios Double yes!
2016-06-13 08:11:50 PM Readings by Wen I'm enjoying my bone set and it's talking to me :)
2016-06-13 08:11:59 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti http://www.luckymojo.com/throwingthebones.html
2016-06-13 08:12:09 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti http://www.luckymojo.com/bonesshellsandcurios.html
2016-06-13 08:12:28 PM Papa Newt When I recieved my bone set from Lucky Mojo, I took each bone, nut, root, shell, metal, etc. one by one, and meditated to where the ancestor of that item and my ancestors were one.
2016-06-13 08:12:50 PM Ghia enter the room
2016-06-13 08:12:53 PM Papa Newt Took a long time, but was quite the experience.
2016-06-13 08:12:53 PM AngeliqueLuna That is soo coool wen
2016-06-13 08:13:17 PM Ghia I just got knocked off
2016-06-13 08:13:22 PM BonesShellsAndCurios You all make me happy!
2016-06-13 08:13:36 PM BonesShellsAndCurios :-*
2016-06-13 08:13:42 PM Papa Newt (F)
2016-06-13 08:14:14 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti He fed his bones.
2016-06-13 08:14:32 PM Ghia still waiting for sound ok now i got it...Bog talk
2016-06-13 08:14:40 PM BonesShellsAndCurios http://bonesshellsandcurios.com/intervi ... ne-legare/
2016-06-13 08:15:01 PM Papa Newt http://luckymojo.com/bonesshellsandcurios.html
2016-06-13 08:15:10 PM Readings by Wen We all love your book, Michele. It's my mini bible
2016-06-13 08:15:23 PM BonesShellsAndCurios Thank you Wen!
2016-06-13 08:15:24 PM Papa Newt http://luckymojo.com/throwingthebones.html
2016-06-13 08:16:11 PM Readings by Wen :)
2016-06-13 08:16:34 PM Ghia thats cool I am not rady to move to bone reading yet :)
2016-06-13 08:17:03 PM catherine yronwode Thank you!
2016-06-13 08:17:11 PM BonesShellsAndCurios Yes, thank you!
2016-06-13 08:17:13 PM Ghia I still want to buy a stack of books from LMC
2016-06-13 08:17:23 PM BonesShellsAndCurios quit the room
2016-06-13 08:17:39 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti The bones usually have spirits associated with them.
2016-06-13 08:17:48 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti E.g. the spirits of the animals or humans involved.
2016-06-13 08:17:55 PM Papa Newt You can, Ghia, with the baker's dozen! http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatbooks.html
2016-06-13 08:18:04 PM BonesShellsAndCurios enter the room
2016-06-13 08:18:17 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti That's different than 'The Spirit of the Bones' or 'The Spirit of Divination'.
2016-06-13 08:18:41 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti When involving scriptural divination one might explain this as being drawing on the Holy Spirit or the deity of the scripture involved.
2016-06-13 08:18:46 PM Ghia bakers dozen groovy!
2016-06-13 08:20:21 PM GeorgeAcosta0 Especially if you don't do anything to grab your alafia!
2016-06-13 08:20:33 PM Readings by Wen quit the room
2016-06-13 08:20:37 PM Ghia is the new release redone that Cat did in that, i forgot the name.
2016-06-13 08:20:48 PM Readings by Wen enter the room
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2016-06-13 08:21:47 PM Papa Newt Yes. You can purchase it here http://www.luckymojo.com/legendsofincen ... magic.html
2016-06-13 08:22:04 PM Readings by Wen woof
2016-06-13 08:22:36 PM Readings by Wen :) YES
2016-06-13 08:22:44 PM Papa Newt Hooray! :D
2016-06-13 08:22:44 PM Readings by Wen hahahahahha... Gracias
2016-06-13 08:22:53 PM Readings by Wen OMG I (L) this song
2016-06-13 08:22:59 PM Readings by Wen :D
2016-06-13 08:23:05 PM Ghia nice(F)
2016-06-13 08:23:17 PM Ghia sounds Haitian
2016-06-13 08:23:29 PM AngeliqueLuna (L) now i am going to get the song stuck in my head
2016-06-13 08:23:30 PM GeorgeAcosta0 This song is giving me a welling feeling
2016-06-13 08:23:49 PM Ghia Up
2016-06-13 08:24:52 PM Ghia reminds me of my despacho in south Cusco by a family of shamans
2016-06-13 08:25:20 PM Ghia red and white carnations and lots of other stuff
2016-06-13 08:25:20 PM Candelos Corner Radio you can almost hear the Masonic overtones in this :S
2016-06-13 08:25:38 PM LibraGoddess quit the room
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2016-06-13 08:25:46 PM LibraGoddess enter the room
2016-06-13 08:25:52 PM Readings by Wen http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/lucabrandoligb
2016-06-13 08:25:52 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti I've known people who are so concerned about the results of divination (and magic) that they have to be contained within 'sacred space' before they will even begin.
2016-06-13 08:26:15 PM catherine yronwode It's my Mr. Nasal-Voice. I really like him.
2016-06-13 08:26:15 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti They construct this sacred space themselves when on the road an dotherwise may be in a temple.
2016-06-13 08:26:15 PM LibraGoddess any resource on reading with seashells?
2016-06-13 08:26:22 PM Readings by Wen Tiene que ser... tiene que ser mayombero como yo... :D
2016-06-13 08:26:38 PM Ghia all was in the pack
2016-06-13 08:26:53 PM Candelos Corner Radio yes me libragoddess lol
2016-06-13 08:27:02 PM Ghia certain to create the space along anywhere ;)
2016-06-13 08:27:18 PM LibraGoddess lol, I meant to say learning to read the seashells
2016-06-13 08:27:32 PM Ghia they use seashells all the way in the mountains
2016-06-13 08:28:15 PM Ghia gotta connect it all around
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2016-06-13 08:29:09 PM LibraGoddess enter the room
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2016-06-13 08:29:09 PM LibraGoddess enter the room
2016-06-13 08:29:34 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti So one way to have a 'divination of the tool' is to capture it and CONSTRAIN the spirit to the tool.
2016-06-13 08:29:47 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti have a 'divination spirit of the tool'.
2016-06-13 08:30:18 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti An example here is the Golden Dawn's 'spirit of the tarot'. Another would be ConjureMan Ali's Carnelian ring djinn.
2016-06-13 08:31:06 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti So you could capture a spirit and constrain it into anything and use it for divination: a crystal ball, a bag of stones, etc.
2016-06-13 08:31:21 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Capture it in a bottle and play 'Spin the Bottle'.
2016-06-13 08:31:47 PM Readings by Wen Thanks Tata!
2016-06-13 08:32:57 PM GeorgeAcosta0 *def jam poetry snaps*
2016-06-13 08:33:21 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Another way would be to petition a god and ask them to bless or connect themselves to the divination tool.
2016-06-13 08:33:37 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Some gods like certain types of tools, like Odin and runes.
2016-06-13 08:34:24 PM GeorgeAcosta0 An African Grey feather?
2016-06-13 08:34:48 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Parrot's feather
2016-06-13 08:35:00 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Parrots are known for involvement in divination.
2016-06-13 08:35:03 PM catherine yronwode You can buy parrot feathers on ebay.
2016-06-13 08:35:28 PM catherine yronwode You want one from not just the SPECIES, but from one you know can talk in a human voice!
2016-06-13 08:35:31 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Yes, Minah Bird.
2016-06-13 08:35:47 PM catherine yronwode Cockatoos too.
2016-06-13 08:36:25 PM catherine yronwode We find this in hoodoo as well. Also the feathers of a Mocking Bird.
2016-06-13 08:36:33 PM Readings by Wen nice
2016-06-13 08:36:40 PM catherine yronwode Used for court cases and ther times when speech is to be amplified.
2016-06-13 08:37:40 PM catherine yronwode Parrot Feathers are African. In the Native American world, no parrots -- hence, the Mocking Bird!
2016-06-13 08:38:12 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Is the hoodoo interest in Mockingbird feathers on account of its being able to mimic human voice?
2016-06-13 08:38:34 PM catherine yronwode Oh, sure they got loose -- we have them in Caqlifornia too now.
2016-06-13 08:38:39 PM catherine yronwode But they are not native.
2016-06-13 08:38:44 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti I've only heard them mimicking bird calls.
2016-06-13 08:38:45 PM BonesShellsAndCurios Same in San Diego - escaped pets.
2016-06-13 08:39:07 PM catherine yronwode Gree African Conures all over Santa Rosa, California
2016-06-13 08:39:10 PM catherine yronwode Green
2016-06-13 08:39:40 PM catherine yronwode Oh, Mocking Birds do mimic cats, dogs, chain saws, people, and so forth
2016-06-13 08:39:53 PM GeorgeAcosta0 Remember, synchronicity is great
2016-06-13 08:40:09 PM catherine yronwode They don't mimic people unless the people are outdoors, though, because they are not commonly PET birds.
2016-06-13 08:40:58 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Thrush or a Mockingbird.
2016-06-13 08:41:21 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Yes, that's CCR.
2016-06-13 08:41:39 PM animatormama enter the room
2016-06-13 08:42:04 PM GeorgeAcosta0 Remember if you need to reach me in the afterlife, light a joint
2016-06-13 08:42:58 PM Papa Newt Growing up in the Catholic church I was always told that incense lift up our prayers to God. Always enjoyed that and work with incense a lot because of that.
2016-06-13 08:43:28 PM Papa Newt Wasn't too pleased that the church i went to stopped using incense for funerals and other special ceremonies.... meh
2016-06-13 08:43:33 PM Readings by Wen Papa N., I love Frankincense and Myrrh
2016-06-13 08:44:17 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Can you invite saints to be your divination guide?
2016-06-13 08:44:23 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Or angels?
2016-06-13 08:44:36 PM Readings by Wen Lenormand
2016-06-13 08:44:39 PM animatormama quit the room
2016-06-13 08:46:19 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti What about nature spirits? Can you get a pixie into your carnelian ring for divination?
2016-06-13 08:46:21 PM catherine yronwode I resent that Michael calls MY tribe's angels "thugs." PLEEASE.
2016-06-13 08:46:30 PM catherine yronwode ***ing racist.
2016-06-13 08:47:00 PM catherine yronwode I mean, *** that ***. I would NEVER say that on the radio about Michael's tribal spirit-beings.
2016-06-13 08:47:24 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Saint of Occultism: Cyprian
2016-06-13 08:47:36 PM catherine yronwode You know, i don't give a ***ing damn about Michael's idiotic hatred of Jews -- but DULY NOTED.
2016-06-13 08:47:53 PM catherine yronwode Okay, i seriously hope you read this to him.
2016-06-13 08:48:02 PM catherine yronwode Because he is not in the chat room.
2016-06-13 08:48:17 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti of Antioch i think.
2016-06-13 08:48:26 PM catherine yronwode And it is mean-spirited and s h i t t y to tell anyone that THEIR HOLY ARCHANGELS are "thugs."
2016-06-13 08:48:58 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti http://www.luckymojo.com/saintcyprian.html
2016-06-13 08:49:00 PM catherine yronwode Solidarity with Orlando. But my archangels are "thugs." Sure thing.
2016-06-13 08:49:09 PM AngeliqueLuna thnak you
2016-06-13 08:49:12 PM catherine yronwode Grrrr.
2016-06-13 08:49:26 PM Tata Longshot Orlando sucked, and I was glad they caught the guy in LA.
2016-06-13 08:49:51 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti "Saint Cyprian of Antioch dwells in a shadowy, occult world of lore and legend, for he is said to have been a renowned Pagan conjurer, sorcerer, and magician who had dealings with demons and the devil."
2016-06-13 08:49:54 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti -- http://www.luckymojo.com/saintcyprian.html
2016-06-13 08:49:58 PM catherine yronwode Seriously, why is okay to say that Jewish archangels are "thugs"? For real?
2016-06-13 08:51:06 PM LibraGoddess quit the room
2016-06-13 08:51:09 PM Tata Longshot I'm surprised they're still not letting gay men donate blood.
2016-06-13 08:51:17 PM Tata Longshot A lot of people could use it right now.
2016-06-13 08:51:18 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti That is odd.
2016-06-13 08:51:22 PM Readings by Wen Really, Tata L?
2016-06-13 08:51:25 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti I thought that stopped that.
2016-06-13 08:51:27 PM GeorgeAcosta0 They are iirc, emergency circumstances
2016-06-13 08:51:32 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti that they stopped that.
2016-06-13 08:51:41 PM gari farmer I thought CNN reported that the FDA changed the policy.
2016-06-13 08:51:42 PM Tata Longshot 1 year waiting period for gay men to give blood, but THREE DAYS for a lunatic to buy a gun?
2016-06-13 08:51:45 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti It was a silly restriction and in California it was changed.
2016-06-13 08:51:46 PM catherine yronwode The killing in Orlando was just ghastly. And it is a damnably short step from religious hatred of that kind to religious hatred againt the "other" of any kind. That's why Michael saying that is so shocking.
2016-06-13 08:51:49 PM AngeliqueLuna they allowing gay men to give blood
2016-06-13 08:51:50 PM Tata Longshot That's all anyone needs to know about America.
2016-06-13 08:51:52 PM Papa Newt quit the room
2016-06-13 08:52:10 PM AngeliqueLuna it is a hippa law that was lifted during the tragedy
2016-06-13 08:52:24 PM Razi El isnt all the donated blood tested before given?
2016-06-13 08:52:28 PM catherine yronwode Speak for yourself Michael.
2016-06-13 08:52:37 PM AngeliqueLuna yes
2016-06-13 08:52:52 PM Tata Longshot It's tested, but I think they pre-screen so they don't have to bother testing it or storing it.
2016-06-13 08:53:08 PM Tata Longshot I'D think that when the demand is so high, they'd make the effort.
2016-06-13 08:53:20 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Even Mars.
2016-06-13 08:53:21 PM GeorgeAcosta0 Catherine: I think you're taking that out of proportion, He mentioned them being the muscle of god, which in the case of someone being a muscle for something a thug is a pretty common colliqual word to pop up in anyone's vocabulary. I'm sure he didn't mean
2016-06-13 08:53:25 PM LibraGoddess enter the room
2016-06-13 08:53:25 PM LibraGoddess quit the room
2016-06-13 08:53:25 PM LibraGoddess enter the room
2016-06-13 08:53:26 PM GeorgeAcosta0 it with much or any disrespect
2016-06-13 08:53:28 PM Razi El quit the room
2016-06-13 08:53:28 PM catherine yronwode You can find me anywhere Jewish Thugs gather.
2016-06-13 08:53:33 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Warrior gods and goddesses?
2016-06-13 08:53:43 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Birch Tree // Michael Correll 913-828-2042 http://www.thesacredgrovestore.com https://www.facebook.com/Unity-of-Wicca ... 240967776/ https://www.youtube.com/user/freakphil1309
2016-06-13 08:53:57 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Candelo Kimbisa http://www.facebook.com/candeloscornerradio http://www.kimbisa.org http://www.hoodoopsychics.com extension 1362
2016-06-13 08:54:00 PM Ghia :-* Peace
2016-06-13 08:54:06 PM AngeliqueLuna thank you great show
2016-06-13 08:54:07 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti "May all the eguns and shadows that accompany you have all the necessary light!"
2016-06-13 08:54:11 PM Tata Longshot Gnight urrybuddy.
2016-06-13 08:54:12 PM BonesShellsAndCurios (})
2016-06-13 08:54:18 PM Ghia quit the room
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2016-06-13 08:54:19 PM Readings by Wen Nsala Malecu!
2016-06-13 08:54:19 PM gari farmer Great show, Tata. Thank you!!!
2016-06-13 08:54:22 PM gari farmer quit the room
2016-06-13 08:54:24 PM Tata Longshot Time to go burn a cigar.
2016-06-13 08:54:31 PM Tata Longshot (H)
2016-06-13 08:54:48 PM Readings by Wen quit the room
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2016-06-13 08:55:37 PM catherine yronwode Time to call out my "thugs" on the haters.
2016-06-13 08:55:51 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti I wouldn't do that.
2016-06-13 08:56:07 PM catherine yronwode Well, troll, they aren't YOUR "thugs."
2016-06-13 08:56:23 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Kali appears to have Her own, still hidden somewhere.
2016-06-13 08:56:32 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti The originals.
2016-06-13 08:56:34 PM catherine yronwode Hahaha. I LOVE YOU, troll!
2016-06-13 08:56:44 PM Mani C Price enter the room
2016-06-13 08:56:44 PM catherine yronwode You make me laugh.
2016-06-13 08:56:48 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti :)
2016-06-13 08:57:06 PM catherine yronwode You and me..., forever!
2016-06-13 08:57:27 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti I unfriended someone in facebook recently for talking with me about joinging and / or restarting the Thuggees.
2016-06-13 08:57:36 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti I'm opposed to violence.
2016-06-13 08:57:42 PM Mani C Price quit the room
2016-06-13 08:57:45 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Blocked them in fact.
2016-06-13 08:57:48 PM LibraGoddess quit the room
2016-06-13 08:57:58 PM LibraGoddess enter the room
2016-06-13 08:57:58 PM LibraGoddess quit the room
2016-06-13 08:57:58 PM LibraGoddess enter the room
2016-06-13 08:58:03 PM catherine yronwode Me too. And it is more difficult for me, because i am a NATURALLY VIOLENT person.
2016-06-13 08:58:06 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Unbalanced, a psych case, calls me "master".
2016-06-13 09:00:56 PM catherine yronwode Time for capturage....
2016-06-13 09:00:59 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti ({)
2016-06-13 09:01:08 PM Troll Towelhead Grand Mufti Capturing chat.
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