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Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by y2241 » Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:04 pm

hello everyone,

i need some help please...

My friend is diagnosed with very low subclinical schizophrenia, post traumatic stress disorder and anger management issues. i know it sounds very scary but i just copied and pasted the technical terms from his report, lol. he's going to get prescription from a doctor tomorrow morning. for me, he's just a bit emotional and too much imagination.

my first question would be, i'm actually worried that all these happened to him coz i've been working too many spells on him, a honey jar, a few candles, a doll. is this possible?

my second question is, is there anything i can do to help on the hoodoo side?

thanks very much for ur help in advance!

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Re: Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:52 pm

Cleanse him, and unjinx him from your work.

You can work with St Dymphna s she helps with mental health issues. However, there is no "cure" for schizophrenia if that is the case, or any low kind of schizophrenia.

I would go back and even look at his family. If they have a history of mental health issues, then that is where he got it from. Usually its the mothers side that for whatever reason has the highest probability for a hereditary link to mental health issues.

I would actually do something to make sure that he goes to therapy, and sticks to his medication.
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Re: Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by Devi Spring » Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:21 am

Yes, if he's in crisis and psychotic he should be on meds to stabilize. (Docs are REAL quick to slap psychiatric diagnoses on people nowadays.) But there have been successes with holistic treatments for schizophrenia, believe it or not. It's often nutritionally based intolerances/depletions/etc that can be addressed with diet and supplimentation.

I do a lot of research in this area and know a lot of people that when they've made the correct changes in their lives no longer have any symptoms of their "incurable mental disease" and are completely stable without medication. Have him look into the Icarus Project if the schizophrenic diagnoses sticks. Cognitive Behavior Therapy (CBT), and Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction (MBSR) work amazingly well for PTSD (and any mental wellness challenges) - these will go a long way to helping him acheive stability and overall mental wellbeing even if he decides to stay on medication.

Definitely undo any work you've done on him to relieve the pressure from that end, and do some healing/blessing work for him. I love St. Dymphna - so if you feel comfortable petitioning her, go ahead! She has a lovely energy and is very compassionate.

Feel free to contact me for info about holistic treatment for mental wellness challenges - although I realize you're not the one making any decisions on his treatments.
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Re: Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:33 pm

I've always been a bit cautious when it comes to applying any type of magick to mental illness. Mental illness is caused by so many things and result from anything from genetics, to behavioral issues, to chemical imbalances etc. Ultimately, the mind is so imbalanced and messy that throwing around energy is more harmful then helpful. Focus on helping him get treatment through doctors and specialists. Be careful when it comes to just dealing with medication, good therapy will combine bought medicinal treatment along with behavioral and cognitive treatments. Holisitic treatments are also good, but always run them by a doctor just to be safe. If you do feel like working some conjure then work with unjinxing and simply pray for peace and swift healing. Other than that be a good friend help them get the help they need.
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Re: Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:52 pm

I agree with Conjureman 100%. Seriously, schizophrenia is no joke. And I would say for some people nutrition needs to be adjusted, but may of times these people have a genetic component combined with the environment that can trigger it. Actually all of us probably have some kind of mental illness, that if the environment, age, and stress is right...it can bring it out of us. Hollistic is great and everything, but I would recommend that your friend gets professional help from more than one psychiatrist. Cognitive behavioral treatments are not great for schizophrenics by the way. PTSD yes...Schizophrenics definitely not. I was just talking about that with my clinical psych supervisor the other day. Anywhoo enough psych jargon...I would be reluctant to use any serious hoodoo on him...let the meds do their job. And make sure those around him know how to adjust to. A friend of mine was schizo and bipolar, and it was such a tramautic experience for his friends and family.
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Unread post by y2241 » Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:33 pm

thank you everyone for ur responds =D

he started the medication 2 days ago and he seems to be happier and less grumpy... i guess that's a good thing... since he just started on his treatment, would it be better if i don't do anything at all now? i personally know basically nothing about mental wellness challenges... so on one hand i wanna help but on the other i don't know what to do...

should i start healing/cleansing spell later? wait until things stabilized abit (hopefully) before deciding what to do? cos i don't wanna mess anything up...

once again, thank you all for ur responds, they helped alot...

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Re: Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:54 am

Let the medications do their job. Pretty much the only thing you can do is cleanse him, and probably work with st dymphna. Just do that and be supportive. Most people with mental illness don't like to take their medication sometimes, but just be that supportive friend, and help him maintain some kind of normalcy.
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Unread post by faith2008 » Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:25 pm

As I have long suspected, my husband is bipolar. His sister is in a home, she is schizophrenic and bipolar. My husband refuses to admit that there might be anything wrong with him. He has moved out....again. It happens almost every year about this time. He either moves out or we are just miserable until his cycle changes.

He also is addicted to marijuana and has several friends that it would probably be best if he broke ties with.

I had a reading done today which confirmed the above. I'm just wondering if there is anything I can do in terms of spiritual or magical work to open his eyes as to how he really is and hopefully compel him to get some help. We have two children and I want to do everything I can to give our marriage one last chance before I do a cut and clear and move on.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks again in advance!!

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Re: Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:58 pm

Your husband suffers from mental illness, and most of the time when people suffer from them they are not able to make logical decisions. In addition, I understand that it can be frustrating as a friend or a family member to try and help someone that does have the capability to understand why they need the help. With bipolar there is depression, and then followed by manic states where he is irritable, agitated, doesnt sleep for days, makes these crazy decisions without understanding the repercussions.But with depression comes suicide. There is always a chance your husband could be feeling that way.

Honestly, you need to educate YOURSELF about what you can do, and the proper things to do to get him into a psychiatric evaluation. If he gets too irate, he can be admitted under an involuntary psychiatric evaluation called a 51-50. But you need to be more empathetic towards your husband, I understand this is affected your marriage, but you need to understand that husband suffers from something he cannot control. So you need to get help as well, and see what means you can do to get him treatment. If you have to do a 51-50 on him, then do so...sometimes its the hardest decision but the best thing to do for someone.

Hoodoo, and spells are only going to do so much. I would recommend working with St. Dymphna because she helps with mental illnesses, and work with her to help get him the help that he needs. Compelling him might be a little hard because he is so up and down, but you could try to do a compelling vigil.

In addition, a reading does not substitute for medical help. If you can manage to get your husband, in the car, and let the hospital mental unit know before hand, perhaps they can work with you to help to get him the help that he needs.
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Re: Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by Devi Spring » Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:02 pm

I would work with St. Dymphna on him, using a honey jar filled with herbs for mental clarity, wisdom, tranquility, and health. Do a novena in tandem with the jar using St. Dymphna oil, or Healing + Clarity + King Solomon Wisdom oils. This might help quiet his mind a bit and help him gain some perspective. However, when he is very ill with a cycle, you shouldn't really work anything other than Healing on him.

There are lots of different natural approaches that work very well with bipolar individuals, if he's frightened of medication. As long as he is not currently fully psychotic and a danger to himself or others, there may be options open to him that he is simply not aware of. If you are interested you can PM me. I've worked for several years with these issues and can recommend many different resources to get you started.

In the meantime, working with St. Dymphna and some Healing work is probably your best bet.
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Unread post by faith2008 » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:01 pm

Thank you both so much for the suggestions. I did get him to the doctor once but he refused to admit that he had a problem and refused medication. I will take your suggestions and work with St Dymphna. I will have to do some research on her first though. At this point in time he is not even speaking to me really, so the only thing I can do is hope and pray for him. His sister is now in a home and I fear that without help he may one day be in one too. We have been together for seven years and every year our problems start and end around the same time. I want my children to have a father that can be in their lives the way he should be God willing.

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Re: Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:00 pm

I understand your situation faith...I hope you realize that this problem is not something you can control, and you should just do your best to get him the help that he needs. St. Dymphna should help you, and she will. Good luck and keep us posted.
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Re: Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:59 pm

You can work a honey jar to sweeten him to the idea of seeking out help. Work in your petition that you want him to start seeing a doctor or that he should start going to therapy. Use Clarity oil and herbs. Things like Althaea, Sage, and Flax Seed should do the trick along with oils like Clarity and Blessing.

You can work this in conjunction with a white skull candle where you you've written out that he should seek out therapy. Anoint with Clarity, Blessing, and Healing products. You might want to include a commanding herb like Calamus to get him to agree to go to therapy to get help.
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Re: Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by STH » Thu May 06, 2010 9:49 am

Hi,
My boyfriend and I broke up a few weeks ago. Things were wonderful and we were planning to eventually marry. The problem is that he is bipolar. Everything was great until he became depressed and broke things off. He has been severly depressed for about a month now and hospitalized for depression 3 times now. I would like to know what I can do to help him feel "normal" again and hopefully we can work things out. I love him deeply and would love to work things out with him but to me the most important thing is that he is ok.

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Re: Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by jwmcclin » Thu May 06, 2010 11:46 am

Look into the Healing product line... Have you considered petitioning a Saint that helps people in this situation?
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Unread post by Katie_Did1111 » Thu May 06, 2010 12:32 pm

Good idea; St. Dymphna is the patroness of those stricken with mental illness.


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Re: Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Thu May 06, 2010 12:48 pm

You need to accept that your ex boyfriend will never be "normal" Bipolar individuals go through periods where they are depressed, and then they go into manic phases (i.e. staying up all night, agitated, making poor decisions with highly damaging consequences, inflated ego, etc). Hoodoo does not fix everything, but it can be very helpful. However, I can tell you that if they are not on medication and are not taking it consistently, or not taking it like its recommended. He will not be "normal" and might just get worse. So if he is not doing those things from a medication stand point then it is going to be hard to have a relationship with this person. Also, you need to understand this disorder by joining a support group with people that have a relative or loved one with the disorder, and you need to become more educated about the disorder. So that you can understand him and why he goes through this. Bipolar is a mood disorder, and to be diagnosed it has to impair difficulty in his life...one of them being interpersonal relationships.

You just might accept that your boyfriend is going to go through cycles like this if and when you and him get back together. From a hoodoo stand point, I would work with St. Dymphna. She helps with those that have mental illnesses. You can do some cleansing work on this person as well, and hopefully try to help get him the adequate treatment he needs...which is medication coupled with some counseling. OR he might need to be committed to an inpatient facility for a while where he has to be on medication...if hes a danger to himself or others.
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Re: Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by STH » Thu May 06, 2010 1:39 pm

Thank you for the advice and feed back,

I have reaserched bipolar disorder extensivly. I feel like I know quite a lot about his condition. I understand that he will never be "normal". I guess that was a bad choice of words. I just want to help him be better. He is and has been under treatment, takes medication, and recieves counseling.

When you say work with St. Dymphna, how do I do that? Would I just light a candle and state my petition, or do is there something special I have to do?

How would I go about doing a cleansing work? Where do I look for that information?

Another thing, when he gets through his this episode what can I do to help the reconsile the relationship? My first priority is to help him with his disorder but I still have hopes of getting back together. I have thought of doing a honey jar but I read that you need hair and I have none. It would be hard to get some since he has none.

Thanks again for the help,

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Re: Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Thu May 06, 2010 1:58 pm

Ill start from the bottom up. You do not need hair for a honey jar. However, you do need personal items which gives you better bond and connection to the target. So you can use handwriting, names, photos, and anything else connected to him. For reconciliation you can get a reconciliation spell kit...but be aware that you need to help stabilize him first, and this might just be part of his disorder. Sorry but reconciliation may help for a little while, but if he can't handle an interpersonal relationship...to a certain degree there is nothing you can do about that because it has to do with his condition. Like I said you need to consider finding a support group or some kind of help for when he goes through these cycles whether he is in the depression phase or the manic phase.

http://www.luckymojo.com/spells.html#red
http://www.luckymojo.com/reconciliation.html

Here is a list from this website that can be substitutes: http://www.luckymojo.com/bodyfluids.html
Genital fluids: menstrual blood, semen, vaginal fluid
Other biological concerns: urine, feces, sweat, blood, spit
Hair: pubic, head, armpit, beard
Person's unwashed clothing: underwear, socks, handkerchief
Person's foot track lifted from the dirt
"Shed" body items: nail clippings, baby teeth
Person's bath water, wash water, drinking water
Person's handwriting on paper
Something Person owned or wore
Something Person touched, e.g. butt from smoked cigarette
Photo of Person
Drawing or silhouette of Person
Person's business card
Person's full name written on paper 9 times


You can use any combination of those personal concerns as well as your own. Lucky mojo has honey jar kits as well along with directions

St. Dymphna you can have the Missionary church light a candle on your behalf, which you can do
Here http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatcandleservices.html

Or you can purchase a St. Dymphna fixed candle, and burn it next to a bowl or cup of water. I would light this candle on a Monday or Wednesday. You can put his picture under the candle with a written petition of what you are seeking her help for as well. I would say this every night or every Monday or Wednesday.

As for cleansing, there are various ways you can cleanse someone. I would work an egg cleansing on him...which you can do a forum search for to learn about. You can also make a doll of him, and make a 13 herb cleansing bath or even a healing bath, and bath the doll, which would act as him. Feel free to browse and search the forum to look for various ways people have cleansed a target. The google function may be better type "cleansing lucky mojo forum" and you will get various hits.

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Unread post by Khourrem » Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:37 am

The situation in a nutshell is this: my marriage has been disintegrating for the past several years. My husband has some serious mental health issues and has been overwhelmingly negative/passive about getting well. At this point, I just want out but am not financially ready to do it. I had a reading; Miss Bri suggested a peaceful home honey jar. I'm having trouble framing wording for my petition. I want our coexistence to be as peaceful and harmonious as possible for our kids' sake, but with a continued, unimpeded move towards separation.

Any thoughts on how to distill this concept into a few words for a honey jar paper?

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Unread post by Devi Spring » Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:31 am

"Peaceful coexistence" is short and sweet.
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Re: Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by Devi Spring » Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:14 am

I would recommend that for now you focus on getting better. Until you can really love yourself, your relationships will always be troubled. It's great that you are seeking help, and that you've made the realization of how your illness is negatively impacting every area of your life! From there you can really start to make lasting and significant changes that will transform you life.

If you were my client, I would suggest focusing on your recovery by working with Healing and Cast Off Evil for yourself to help support your process in whatever therapy you are seeking. You may also wish to do some ongoing with with St. Dymphna during this time to further aid your healing. Your focus should be on you and on getting better and gaining coping skills to that you can maintain a new stable way of being in the future. You will likely be surprised with how many positive changes start taking place in your relationship just by you making those positive changes in your own life.

As far as the relationship, I would work a Reconciliation honey jar to help heal and sooth over old hurts. But I think the core issue here is your health and mental state. Work on that, and many other things will fall into place for your life.

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Unread post by jwmcclin » Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:03 am

Saint Dymphna is located here http://www.luckymojo.com/saintdymphna.html Ailey. Good Luck and Blessings.
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Re: Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by Dr Johannes » Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:34 pm

The advise most often given, and most unlikely to ever be followed is this:

Cast a spell to draw a NEW man, that suits all these requests and needs.
"Adam and Eve" products, white "Bride and Groom" Candles used with a sincere trust in the fact that such a man is out there and you are both worth having him and able to draw him is what to use.

If you know that your faith is weak and you think you do not deserve this you might also consider adding a Whole Queeen Elisabeth Root with either Van-Van Oil, Master Oil or 7-11 Holy Oil, a batch of Althea roots, "Cut and Clear" products and pray to the mentioned St. Dymphna. Perhaps even try a novena to St. Therese of Lisieux .
Or St. Jude if you feel it all over to be an impossible accomplishement all together.

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Re: Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by Harry1 » Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:41 pm

Hi, I need some advice on what spell to do please.

My boyfriend, who is bipolar and going through a bad episode following a complete breakdown 4 weeks ago when he was hearing voices and seeing faces in front of him. I am very worried about him and also devasted that he has left. He has moved out of our home a couple of weeks later and has set up with a girl from his work who he has been having an affair with for a month also.

This is so out of character he hates cheats, liars and infidelity. I want to realise what he has done, break them up and break him out of the episode he is under. He is acting completely out of character.

I wonder if she has put him under a spell she seems to be that type.

He has been gone for nearly 2 weeks. I have a couple of tiny beard hairs, a clean pair of underpants, a t shirt covered in sweat (that I have bagged) and a poem that he wrote, hundreds of photos and jewellery that he bought me, everything else is gone. I could use these items in a spell.

I want him to realise what is happening, dump this girl and come home. Honestly if you knew him you would see this isnt him. I am very worried about him being out there on his own at the moment. What spell can I do, what materials do I need, spell kits etc.

I would also like candles burn in the shop, and burn some at home at the same time:
Reconciliation glass vigil candle set To forgive and forget past problems, fights, and break-ups, to fall in love again.

Return To Me glass vigil candle
To bring back a friend or lover who has walked out or left.


Separation Confusion glass vigil candle
To create confusion and discord between two people and drive them apart.


Will this work???
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Re: Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:13 pm

Ummm, hearing voices? That is NOT bipolar at all...that is schizophrenia OR it can be bipolar with some psychotic features. If he truly is schizophrenic or bipolar then him acting out of character wouldnt be that OUT of character. Typically, bipolar people when they are in a manic phase tend to act out of character and engage in risky behaviors. In any case, I am not trying to diagnose him but there could be many possibilities here.

Personally, I would recommend getting a reading before attempting any work to see if its effective for this situaiton. There are too many potential "what ifs" such as what if he is crossed by this woman, what if its just since he has bipolar, what if he... and so on. A reading would be better, and can save you from wasting a lot of money

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Re: Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by Harry1 » Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:34 am

Thanks for your reply.. What sort of reading would you suggest? x

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Unread post by antares » Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:16 am

http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/ If you follow that link there are readers there.

Is he seeing his doctor and taking his medicine?

I think what I would do first is a healing; I'd also petition Dr Hernandez on his behalf, so that he finds the professional help he needs to control this illness and is healed. That should help him get back to normal and hopefully open his eyes. St Dymphna is the patron saint of people with mental problems, so you could take it to her as well.

http://www.luckymojo.com/drhernandez.html

http://www.luckymojo.com/saintdymphna.html

I think - and the reader will be able to advise you better than we can, as s/he will have more information - that adding love or breakup work in there might inflame the situation, especially Confusion. It sounds like he's confused enough already. I'd try the healing route first, as you say it's to do with his illness.

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Re: Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by carcarcar » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:39 am

I want a lover, wanna buy some love magic oil.
But I'm suicidal (some suicidal thoughts).
So, would magic oil or hoodoo affects my mental state?? or make it worser ?

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Re: Love with Mental Illness Depression Bipolar ADHD Schizophrenia

Unread post by Devi Spring » Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:11 am

If you are suicidal, your number one priority need to be getting the help you need. Call a crisis center, get with a counsellor, see your doctor!

No ethical rootworker or magical practitioner would advise you working for a lover when you need to get healthy first.

You need medical and psychological aid. If you are suicidal you are in no state to attract a partner that would be good for you, nor are you able to be a good partner to anyone else. Also, just on the practical end of things, one cannot perform effective magical work if they are in a crisis, or in any agitated state of mind. It takes a calm, balanced mental state.

So please make your priority getting yourself the help you require.

If you want some spiritual advice on the matter, I would recommend that you pray St. Dymphna to bring you the mental/emotional stability and healing which is so badly needed. You can also post a prayer request to the Crystal Silence League for that same petition and immediately have a large network of spiritual practitioners praying for your well-being.
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But please go get yourself under the care of an appropriate medical practitioner as soon as possible.
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Unread post by MissMichaele » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:53 pm

I love to bring in Dr. José Gregorio Hernandez when working with all kinds of health issues, even mental health. In my experience, he and St. Dymphna work well together and make good colleagues.

Don José Gregorio (as his friends call him) was a medical researcher in life, so he's the spirit to go to when you can't get a good diagnosis. He also bought medicine for the poor out of his own pocket, so I also like to work with him when folks are having trouble getting access to medical care.
Spiritual supplies shouldn't make you suicidal all by themselves -- unless someone is using the meaner ones against you. Love and healing products should help you -- that's what they're for!

Lastly, let me just emphasize what Miss Devi said:
Devi Spring wrote:No ethical rootworker or magical practitioner would advise you working for a lover when you need to get healthy first.

You need medical and psychological aid. If you are suicidal you are in no state to attract a partner that would be good for you, nor are you able to be a good partner to anyone else. Also, just on the practical end of things, one cannot perform effective magical work if they are in a crisis, or in any agitated state of mind. ... So please make your priority getting yourself the help you require.
Yes, get practical, real-world help as well as spiritual help. Get your mind clear and strong -- then love will come to you and you will recognize true love when it comes.

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Unread post by carcarcar » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:22 pm

Thank you for the replies!

I WAS in crisis, but not right now.
I've had depression for few years before, but now I think I'm getting better.
There's just a thought that I believe I might end up killing myself (many years later, but not now.) Sometime I think that maybe the way I would die.

So, in this situation, do you think I should get professional help, instead of using love magic?
Also, besides DR. JOSE GREGORIO HERNANDEZ and St. Dymphna, how about Healing Oil? does it work for me??

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Unread post by MissMichaele » Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:10 pm

carcarcar wrote:Thank you for the replies!

I WAS in crisis, but not right now.
I've had depression for few years before, but now I think I'm getting better.
There's just a thought that I believe I might end up killing myself (many years later, but not now.) Sometime I think that maybe the way I would die.
There's a name for that -- "self-fulfilling prophecy." This is why affirmations were invented. (But don't us affirmations as a way to guilt-trip yourself!)
So, in this situation, do you think I should get professional help, instead of using love magic?
Yes, put off the love magic and talk this over with a trained psychologist!
Also, besides DR. JOSE GREGORIO HERNANDEZ and St. Dymphna, how about Healing Oil? does it work for me??
Yes, it should help reinforce your everyday-world work with a counselor. Get some King Solomon Wisdom and Crucible of Courage in there, too! Maybe even some Cast Off Evil.
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Unread post by carcarcar » Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:10 am

Does that mean if I use love magic right now, I might attract someone that is bad?
But I hope if I had a partner, then I will be happy.

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Unread post by aura » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:55 am

carcarcar wrote:Does that mean if I use love magic right now, I might attract someone that is bad?
But I hope if I had a partner, then I will be happy.
You won't necessarily attract someone that is bad carcarcar. But even if you attract the best person there is in the universe, if you're not already comfortable in your own skin, it won't make an ounce of difference. A partner won't make you happy any more than a car or a good meal. Happiness comes from within and can't be found without.

That's why all the responses thus far have told you not to spend your energy on love work when you have far more important fish to fry. The kind of love to be working on right now is far more permanent and rewarding: self-love.

Once you're doing well, relationships come naturally. So heal thy self because joy and contentment are our natural state of being - not sorrow nor pain.

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Unread post by Devi Spring » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:53 am

Very well put, Aura. :)
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Unread post by carcarcar » Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:33 am

Looking at people who are happy, I used to hate/despise them. But then I realized that I was just jealous of them.
God! what's wrong with me?!
I don't love myself. Do you think a psychologist is able to make me love myself??

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Unread post by Devi Spring » Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:03 am

A good counsellor or therapist can help you examine what has caused you to feel badly about yourself, so that you can work through those issues, and start moving past them and love yourself.

It can sometimes be a challenge to find the right counsellor for you, so praying to Dr. Jose Gregorio Hernandez to help lead you to the right one would be a good compliment to your search. Petitioning St. Dymphna also will help bring you balance in the meantime.

I find my clients tend to have better luck finding good therapists when they look for ones that take a more holistic and spiritual approach to things. Look for therapists that work with approaches like Gestalt, that incorporate mindfulness meditation &/or Buddhist philosophy into their work, or otherwise emphasize that they take the whole mind-body-spirit into consideration as they work with a client. You can use Google search terms like "spiritual psychotherapy", "Gestalt therapy", "holistic psychotherapy", and "buddhist psychotherapy" to locate these kinds of therapists near you.

While you're looking for a counsellor that meets your needs, there a lovely book that I find is really easy for people to read and use and can start making a positive difference in their life. It helps retrain your brain away from negative patterns and can work to HEAL the way your brain responds to stress (YES - the brain and heal and grow, and it's a process called neuroplasty). The book is called "Just One Thing" by Rick Hanson. It gives one very simple exercise - such as taking time to notice when something makes you smile or otherwise makes you feel good, and stopping to fully appreciate all the sensations that go along with and prolong the experience a bit, rather than glossing over it - and provides 365 of them so you can do a different one every day if you wish. Or if there's one you particularly like you can do it more often, etc. Because it's so simple it's easy to incorporate into your life, and after a couple of weeks of doing that you'll be surprised what kinds of changes you can see.

But do keep looking for a counsellor or therapist that you can work with.

You may also wish to seek out a naturopath, as there is a great deal that one can do to manage mental wellness through diet and herbal supplementation. In fact, I would suggest that you see about getting a full food allergy and intolerance panel run, as many people with chronic mental wellness challenges have food intolerances &/or gut health issues that contribute a great deal to their mental health status. Your naturopath can take those results and help you craft an approach to get your body into a better overall balance, which will also help you heal and grow stronger.

Best of luck!
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Unread post by queen2be » Wed May 16, 2012 7:17 am

My AIRR reader advised me to make a doll baby on a spouse who has caused tremendous pain and suffering. I got all the materials and I was ready, except now my spouse has cycled into another period of not making emotional messes for the moment. This usually lasts a week or so and then he explodes. The longer the "up" lasts, the worse it is when it ends. I have been doing protection and peace work on the house as well, so that could be helping bring the volume down on the craziness.

So for right now, I'm enjoying a much needed break from the negativity so that I can breathe for bit, but because of that I find it really hard to get up the right emotion for sewing the doll. I have no illusions he will stay this way, but it's hard to invite those feelings when you're getting a break. And I wanted them front and center when I sew the doll baby, I need to put all the years of hurt into those stitches. I feel like it will be more effective. So basically I'm chickening out on going to the dark place to bring up the feelings but I really want to start working the dolly and bind him so I don't have to live on pins and needles... :? How to draw up the negativity and then wash it away again when the work is done? I come from the baptist preacher prayer genre, so the emotional windup is a big part of praying for me. Everything works better when I let it all out in the prayer.

In the meantime, what can I do to keep myself attuned to the fact that this is just a phase and the dark is coming back (he has a severe diagnosed behavioral disorder) and I have to be ready?

I have been anointing myself every morning with Clarity, Wisdom of Solomon, and Crucible of Courage. And of course doing Fiery Wall of Protection work since that was suggested to me here on the forum. I put Peace Water in a bottle and spray it all around the house. (I can't leave for some months until the financial situation is sorted and I get a new job, so I have to make things work for a while.)

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Unread post by aura » Thu May 17, 2012 4:55 am

Well, you could wait to sew the doll until the next tide comes in. Alternatively, if you do work yourself into a frenzy to make the doll now - you can take an Uncrossing or 13-herb bath to wash that negativity away as soon as you've finished. That way you get the emotion you need for the sewing and you can cleanse it away right after.

Congratuations on your peaceful home work thus far, as it does seem to be yielding very concrete results. Keep it up that you may have more periods of relief than turmoil in future.

For readying yourself for the next (and future phases), definitely keep up the protection and clarity/wisdom work. A braid of willow or reed branches under your pillow can help remind you to be flexible and bend rather than break in the storms and althaea can help soothe and ease your soul when things get rough. A tea (it's safe to drind) / bath recipe that can perhaps give you some comfort and help would be the following:

1 part althaea to heal and soothe: http://www.herb-magic.com/althaea-leaf.html
2 parts mint for protection and mental strength: http://www.herb-magic.com/mint.html
1 slice of ginger for stronger and more aggressive protection: http://www.herb-magic.com/ginger-root.html
1 tuft of yarrow flowers for courage: http://www.herb-magic.com/yarrow-flower.html
1/8 part fennel seeds for more protection as well as for courage: http://www.herb-magic.com/fennel-seed.html

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Unread post by queen2be » Fri May 18, 2012 6:56 am

Thank you aura!

I have never used althaea, but your suggestion sounds like the perfect blend for me. I have really seen more peaceful home results since starting the LM Chinese Wash/Peace Water combo. He still has little "snit fits" (as I call them), but they seem to be happening in "his" space more than in "our" space.

The willow braid! I grew up with a willow tree in my yard and it was my favorite place to go tie myself in it and whisper all my secrets to it. This is a lovely idea for me to bring that back to my life, this time as a reminder of strength in flexibility. Thank you so much.
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Unread post by aura » Fri May 18, 2012 7:27 am

Glad it could help! Do keep us updated on how the situation unfolds. (and let us know how the Great Job Hunt works out)
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Unread post by queen2be » Sun May 20, 2012 7:07 am

As Frank Booth said in Blue Velvet, "Now it's dark." :(

I knew it wouldn't last long. So now I will begin the work in earnest. I'm doing the willow braid today to have under my pillow tonight.

I know Saturday and Tuesday are the best days for enemy tricks, but today feels right, so I'm going with it.

I have my cleansing products ready.

Thanks to you all for the suggestions. I have taken them all down and will use them prayerfully.
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Unread post by divaluck » Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:48 am

I was going to do a honey jar spell on my ex for reconciliation, but I was unsure if I should since he is bipolar.

Is this something I shouldn't do because of his condition?

Opinions or experiences would be appreciated. Thanks!

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Unread post by jwmcclin » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:16 am

I am merging this into some prior discussions, divaluck. There have been a number of posts on the topic of how to, and whether one should, cast love spells on a person who suffers from bipolar disorder. I am also re-titling the thread so it can be easily found in the future.

Please read some of the older posts above as well as what follows below.
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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:48 am

Thanks, jwmcclin, for organizing this thread. I have made it a "sticky" so that it will always remain near the top of the Love and Relationships sub-forum.

There are other threads all around the Forum that mention mental illness and various kinds of spell work (the search function of the Forum will help you find them) but this thread will now become the "canonical" thread for discussion of

* the advisability of casting love or reconciliation spells on the mentally ill

* suggestions for effective love and reconciliation spell casting and prayer on mentally ill targets

* how magical spell casting may interact with a mentally ill target's mental health medications and/or therapy sessions.

In addition, all personal-experience-based advice regarding the long-term advantages and disadvantages of remaining in a love relationship with someone who is severely mentally ill will be open for discussion as well.
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Unread post by nowherelass » Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:46 am

Thankyou for making this a sticky, Cat! I've been facing a very similar problem and it will be great for people to have a place to talk about issues like these in the future, especially since conjures appropriate for mentally healthy people might have unforeseen consequences in the mentally ill- ie, intranquil spirit on a manic depressive person.

I personally have been working with Saint Dymphna to heal my target and make him more open to reconciliation as his mental health improves. ;)

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Unread post by SweetLady » Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:49 pm

Hi Diva Luck:
I was considering your post about the Bi-polar person. I have never considered a person's disorder to be a part of a work before. However, I am not an elder practitioner. Still, I felt moved to answer your post. I have been love-worked, and I am bi-polar. Althought I did not want to be worked, I don't think that the results were disastrous because of my health condition.
To me, Mental Health conditions should be considered by people in the same manner that all other health conditions are. For example, would you be asking the same question if your target were diabetic? As in: Should I worry about my love work because my target is Diabetic. -I don't think most people would say that you should hold off.
So many people hold a bias or a kind of stigma toward mental health disorders. I think it would really do society some good to let go of these old and outworn modes of thinking. People who are bi-polar can lead normal, healthy, productive lives just as someone who has Diabetes can. It does not mean we are so fragile and delicate that we have to be handled and treated like a child or like a "special" population. In fact, I think most people would shun being treated as "special needs" because they are bi-polar.
Unfortunately, there is still so much stigma about Mental Health disorders that people will often deny, refuse, or avoid seeking treatment because they feel that there is a certain shame or indignity in being diagnosed as having a Mental health disorder.
I don't think that a person's mental health should be a factor in whether or not you should do love work for them. However, this is not to say that the same rule would apply to all people. If some one's Bi-polar disorder is significant (and there are people with more or less severe symptoms of any mental health disorder) perhaps you would consider doing healing work and/or blessing work for them as well as the spell. Also, perhaps pray in your love spell that the love spell not harm or hurt their mental state, and add an element of soothing/gentleness to the prayers, rituals, and herbs used (chamomile, althea, lavender?)
Basically, what I am saying is consider how severe their condition is, and work with it and/or around it. But I don't think that people with Bi-polar disorder cannot be worked. You have to fully work/treat/diagnose your spell/ritual/work :) hope this helps.

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Unread post by Queens529 » Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:11 am

I am with a wonderful man who for the past 8 years has given me his undivided attention. He has adult ADHD and can cope with it in his own way. The past year I have not been his main focus and that has made things in our relationship very difficult. What can I do to help give him clarity and at the same time make him focus on us again.

I am open to any ideas.
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Unread post by Miss Aida » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:57 pm

Hello, Queens529 ,
I am so sorry to hear about this relapse.
First and foremost, you need to try and convince him to seek medical attention. It may be just mild case that needs minimal medical care.
I would also try healing products on him first: www.luckymojo.com/healing.html
Then, do a skull candle spell with Clarity work: www.luckymojo.com/clarity.html
Wishing you both the very best on this. It's always so difficult for the loved ones when one is a afflicted with a Medical problem.
Please keep us posted.

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Unread post by Queens529 » Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:32 am

Thank you so much Miss Aida,

I have in fact began to work with a white skull candle. I am rubbing it everyday with clarity and bewitching oils and speaking positive thoughts to it everyday. I'm on the 4th day of working with it and I plan to begin burning it on the 7th day. I'm keeping positive.

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Unread post by Marble » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:09 am

The person i have cast on uses drink and drugs-socially. Would a love spells effectiveness be altered by these substances?
Also the person is a manic depressive, or going through some sort of broad-spectrum breakdown, which is unconnected to me. Would this stop a love spell working even if it's independent of their situation?

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Unread post by aura » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:15 am

Hi Marble,

You'll find information on working love spells for those with mental illness in this thread. Another thread that dealins with working on those who have drug problems can be found here: love-spell-w-alcoholic-drug-addicted-vi ... 0c3721d872

Short answer to your specific question however: Love spells can be worked on both addicted and/or mentally ill persons. Their success is dependent on their susceptibility to magic as well as all the usual issues that can help or hinder such work. That said, you'll always be fighting an uphill battle against addiction or illness until they're under control. It's also worth considering working for their health and sanity prior to moving in for love. Until they have a healthy relationship with themselves, they may well be a more toxic partner than anything else.

Given no two situations are identical, do consider getting a reading to best direct your work and ascertain how to best adress your energies.
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Unread post by Marble » Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:37 am

Thank you Aura, i'll do the reading. it's hard working on someone unpredictable when the situation can change daily, based on not just the regular factors.

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Unread post by aura » Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:05 am

Agreed Marble, it isn't an easy situation. Consider having the Crystal Silence League pray for you and the successful resolution of your situation - it's free and helps a lot: http://www.crystalsilenceleague.org/
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Unread post by elsie » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:21 pm

Hello,
I am currently waiting for a reading from an AIRR member. I would like to have a vigil candle lit in the meantime, and would appreciate any suggestions. The gentleman I'm seeing was diagnosed with ADD/ADHD when he was young (probably almost 25 years ago), and it is evident. I love that he is busy and energetic, but it is almost manic, and he has talked about trying to see if he can get prescribed medication for it. His father also passed away in February. They did not have a great relationship and there are many unresolved issues.
I did have the MISC burn a Healing vigil for him, and the results suggested there is more work that needs to be done, (I am sure I can get help with the more intricate conjures when I receive my reading). I have been looking at other posts as well as the LM catalogue and thought perhaps the Blessing vigil or even Clarity would help.
What do you think would be a good Vigil to have set while I wait?
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Unread post by elsie » Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:49 pm

I was/am a bit unsure if I should post here, or if the section on Candles would be more appropriate...
Apologies if this is the incorrect area.

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Unread post by aura » Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:09 pm

A combo of Clarity and another Healing Vigil would work well elsie. It's wonderful you're helping him in such a way. You may also want to petition Dr Gregorio Hernandez so that he finds the best medical help possible.
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Unread post by elsie » Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:40 pm

Thank you so much Miss Aura. I will do that. :)
He is a good and sensitive person( and I don't think a lot of people see that), so I hate to know that he is suffering.
I will update with any changes.
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Unread post by Dimplez » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:29 pm

Hello everyone, so I'm finding out my now ex has PTSD and I believe him to have narcisstic personality disorder (my opinion) ... Is there anything I can do to help him? Thank you

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