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Bone, Shell, and Nut Reading Questions and Answers

Unread post by jwalke12 » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:15 pm

Hello,

I've wanted to learn how to throw bones for a while now, but I can't seem to find anything out about it in relation to hoodoo practice. Does anyone know of a link or a book which teaches how to throw bones?

Thanks so much,

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Re: Throwing the Bones: How to Foretell the Future with Bones

Unread post by jwmcclin » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:43 pm

The Association of Independent Readers and Rootorkers (AIRR) site gives basic information and has a list of workers who perform this method of divination, read about it here http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/in ... ral_Curios

You might book a reading with one of them to gain additional information.
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Re: Throwing the Bones: How to Foretell the Future with Bones

Unread post by jwalke12 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:26 am

Thanks!

The thing is though, I don't want to buy a reading, I would like to learn how to read bones.

So far I can't find any books, so I am assuming that this is something passed on from person to person(?)

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Unread post by Turnsteel » Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:30 pm

jwalke12,

The point jwmcclin was making is that by talking to someone who actually has the gift to do any one of the large array of divination techniques and systems called Throwing the Bones you might just pick up a few things.They could probably tell you if any books are out there, and if any are worth your time.

A small side note thought. There is no one system of "Throwing the Bones", no one monolithic thing. So any book you do find, if any, will in all likelihood only provide you with that authors style, whether one of the old systems or some self invented one.

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Unread post by jwmcclin » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:05 pm

Exactly and thank you Turnsteel; jwalke12, that is the intent. Good Luck in your findings.
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Divination Tools: Throwing the Bones

Unread post by JimtheConjure » Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:15 pm

Hi Everyone!
I'm really excited to have received my bone reading set from LM. This is something I've been waiting to learn for a long time. I tried to make it to the May workshops, but living on the east coast would turn two days of workshops into a four day trip and I couldn't get the time off from work. I'm planning on making it in May 2012 after I've, hopefully, graduated from the course!

The information that came with the bone set is really helpful. There were just two questions that I had which I'm hoping that someone who was able to attend the workshops will be able to answer.

First, the information provided with the kit, written by cat and D. John Michael Hilford, states that "Incense is used to bring in your Ancestors and the Ancestors of the client." Would LM Spirit Guide incense be a good choice for this or is there a more traditional option?

Secondly, the same information suggests that you "Go back in time until your Ancestors and the clients Ancestors are the same." It goes on to suggest you go farther back to when your Ancestors and the clients were one with the Ancestors of the animals and plants. Though I completely understand the concept and realize I may be over-thinking it, I was wondering if there were any more specifics on this process?

Thanks in advance for any information you'd be willing to share and I hope you're all well!

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Re: Divination Tools: Throwing the Bones

Unread post by SweetLady » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:59 am

Spirit guides & ancestors are sometimes the same people but not always. SG incense may be useful. Frankincense has long been used b4 doing divination like tarot

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:18 am

1) The choice of incense is yours. Francincense and Myrrh, mixed, is a traditional resin incense of the old times.

2) This is a visualization and meditation process. Can't really be described in cold type, sorry.
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Assembling a set of bones

Unread post by Miskatonicgrad » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:30 am

Greetings everyone,

I've wanted to begin assembling my own set of bones to throw. I've always expected it takes some time for all the ingredients to find you/you them, but was wondering of there were rules or formulae to follow and maybe some advice or stories how some of you created your sets.

Thank you everyone.

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:17 pm

I suggest that you purchase a set of bones from Lucky Mojo. Included will be a detailed flyer that explains a great deal about the methods and techniques of reading bones and adding to your bone set.

DIV-BON-SET1
Sangoma-Style Bone Reading Set with Instructions
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Unread post by Miskatonicgrad » Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:51 pm

Oh perfect!! I must have missed that!! Thank you Miss catherine!

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:52 pm

You are most welcome. I am currently writing a book on bone reading and it will be available very soon.
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Unread post by autumnalflower » Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:55 pm

Yay, another thing I've always wanted to learn! Look forward to your book!

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Unread post by Miskatonicgrad » Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:57 pm

That's Exciting!! I'll be keeping an eye out for that for sure!!

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Unread post by Joseph Magnuson » Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:18 am

How did I miss this thread?! Wow, can't wait for the book, it will be a must purchase for sure. Glad to see that Lucky Mojo has a Bone Reading Set available! Well done...
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Re: Assembling a set of bones

Unread post by SweetLady » Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:57 am

Hi Miss Cat:
I have been listening to the LMHRW hour radio show. I enjoy when you read the bones for callers. I am intriuged by bone reading, as I am Native American and we have a similar healing/reading system that involves bones. Unfortunately, I know of no living elder who has that knowledge or gift anymore. I was just wondering about the bones and what things you added to yours. You mentioned on the air that you had chinese doll hands or parts? Can you add anything you like to a set of bones? what is the symbolism of the doll parts in your set? Are the shells you use a traditional element to hoodoo or Native American bones? or are they most significant to African forms of bone reading? Thanks so much for the info! ~SweetLady

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Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:51 pm

Miss cat has one of the most interesting bone sets and Lucky Mojo offers a starter set for those interested. Given how versed she is on the subject, I can't wait for the book to come out.
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Unread post by aura » Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:57 pm

Likewise for both the book and listening to the bone readings Miss Cat gives on the radio show: this thread and those radio readings pushed me to order a set which I look forward to working and learning with.

Miss Cat is gonna start the newest reading fad / method revival! Sticks and stones and rocks and bones :lol:
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How do I clean Bones for Divination/Bone Throwing

Unread post by MaryBee » Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:23 pm

I received a real gift today from nature and my spirits.

Recently I've been called to work with La Madama and St. Martha the Dominator. A reader at HooDoo Psychics confirmed this connection. I asked these spirits to give me some signs and help in the world to let me know that I was on the right path, and help in working with them.

Today I was walking through Boston Common on my way to a charity event and I noticed something on the ground. It was a squirrel skeleton, nearly completely decomposed. It was right near the curb on the park path where I was walking. A voice said to me, "Get those bones!"

I carefully picked out as many as I could and put them in a napkin.

Now I have these bones. How do you clean them and prepare them for divination or what not? There are some tiny bits of flesh clinging to some parts and I want to get rid of it. Anyone have any ideas? Miss cat?

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Re: How do I clean Bones for Divination/Bone Throwing

Unread post by Joseph Magnuson » Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:28 pm

Either Maceration or Dermestid Beetles (Museum Beetles) are the two best options. That or burying them for about a year!
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Unread post by jwmcclin » Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:27 pm

MaryBee, did you know cat is writing a book on bone reading?
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Re: How do I clean Bones for Divination/Bone Throwing

Unread post by MaryBee » Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:44 pm

Oooh, no I didn't know. That will be a good book :)

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Re: How do I clean Bones for Divination/Bone Throwing

Unread post by Joseph Magnuson » Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:49 pm

It will a good book and I can't wait! Your post made me wonder if there will be any information included on how to gather the bones to add to your established set!
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Unread post by ConjureMan Ali » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:29 pm

I would definitely say that finding bones like that is a good sign, especially for La Madama as bone reading and cartomancy is often associated with her.
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Re: Divination Tools: Throwing the Bones

Unread post by SANLUV » Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:49 pm

Where did you get the kit? How much? I have been looking for one.
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Unread post by Miss Tammie Lee » Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:53 pm

Lucky Mojo is where you get the Kit below is the SKU, price and a link to a thread for you.

Here you go, DIVBONSET1-- $27.00 see link:

There are many helpful answers in the Thread, and enjoy your next order!
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Re: Throwing the Bones: How to Foretell the Future with Bones

Unread post by Joseph Magnuson » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:26 pm

Have you all seen this page on Bone Throwing over at the AIRR site:
http://readersandrootworkers.org/index. ... ral_Curios

That is a really good starting place.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, Miss cat is currently writing a book on Bone Throwing and Divination. So you will indeed get to have a book like the one you are searching for soon!
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Re: Throwing the Bones: How to Foretell the Future with Bones

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:19 pm

The book is at the printer!

Throwing the Bones: How to Foretell the Future with Bones, Shells, and Nuts

Here's the cover:

BOO-DIV-BONE
Throwing the Bones: How to Foretell the Future with Bones, Shells, and Nuts
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CONTENTS
Dedication and Acknowledgements 4
Preface 5
The Bones 7
Varieties of Bone Divination 9
Slaughter-Bone Oracles 10
Apyromantic and Pyromantic Slaughter-Bone Oracles 11
Speal Bone Reading 11
Furculomancy 16
Oracle Bones in Ancient China 17
Oracle Bones in Modern Labrador 21
Mathematical Systems of Bone Reading 22
Binary 1-Item Bone Tosses 22
Reading 1-Item Binary Tosses on Complex Questions 27
Binary Multiple-Item Bone Tosses 28
I Ching: 3-Item Binary Toss (64 plus 256 results) 29
Obi: 4-Item Binary Toss (5 results) 33
Hakata: 4-Item Binary Toss (16 results 40
Diloggun: 16-Item Binary Toss (256 results) 46
Polyhedral Bone Tosses 48
Tetrahedral Bone Dice Readings 49
Shagai: 4-Item Toss (35 results) 49
Cubical Bone Dice Readings 51
Dice Numerology: 1-, 2-, or 3-Item Toss (22 Results) 51
British Dice Reading: 3-Item Toss (18 results) 52
Sortilege With Bones 54
The Gypsy Domino Oracle: 3 Items from a Set of 28 54
The Yoruba Domino Oracle: 3 Items from a Set of 28 58
Rune Bones: 1 or More Items from a Set of 24 or 25 61
Spirit-Led Interpretive Bone Reading 62
Reading with the Bones of One Single Species 63
The Persian Standing Bone Oracle: 1 Species, 1 Bone 63
’Possum Bone Readings: 1 Species, 6 or More Bones 64
Chicken Bone Readings: 1 Species, 8 or More Bones 69
Reading with the Bones of Mingled Species 71
The Symbolism of The Bones Within the Body 72
The Symbolism of The Bones by Species 74
Items Hand-Crafted from Bones 75
Non-Bone Items from Nature 75
Items Crafted from Other Materials 75
Symbolism of Items That Are Not Bones 76
Container, Bowl, Basket, or Bag 77
Goat Hide, Fiber Mat, Cloth, Dirt Circle 77
Storage Placement 78
The Ancestor Altar 78
Basic Guide to Sangoma-Style Bone Reading 79
Guidelines and Examples to Assist and Inform You 87
When Things Go “Wrong” with a Bone Reading 89
Appendix: A Basic List of Tea Leaf Symbols 91
In Conclusion 96

I will be introducing the book and teaching from it at the Hoodoo Workshops in Forestville, California on May 5th and 6th, 2012.

Included in the cost of the workshop is the book, plus a set of bones:

DIV-BON-SET1
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$27.00

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And, if you have already purchased this set of bones, you will receive $27.00 in credit toward the purchase of more bone-reading items.

The book will be on sale to the public too, without either buying a bone set or taking the workshop.

Pre-Register for the Workshops here: http://luckymojo.com/workshops.html

Here's a permanent link to the order-page that describes the book:

http://www.luckymojo.com/bonereading.html
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Re: Throwing the Bones: How to Foretell the Future with Bones

Unread post by Joseph Magnuson » Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:30 pm

Holy amazing! Cat, that looks better than I could have imagined! What a cover...and the contents look like a veritable smorgasbord of wonderful topics. I can't wait for the book...or the class this May! Thank you for the sneak peek.
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Unread post by Joseph Magnuson » Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:36 pm

I can't wait for this. I am double excited for May, now. TRIPLE excited! LOL
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Unread post by Doctor Hob » Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:25 pm

I just got the biggest headrush when I read that the bone reading book was ready! I'm almost unbearably excited. Can't wait to get a hold of that one.
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Unread post by Papa Newt » Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:32 pm

This is going to be one fantastic workshop and looking forward to attend! :D
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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:43 pm

I am really glad you folks are so enthusiastic. The book goes on sale to the public AFTER the workshop, but folks can pre-order now. It is NOT in stock -- we are having a batch air-shipped in for the workshops -- and we will hold orders until after we get the truck shipment in, which will be the beginning of the second week of May.

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Unread post by Odessa » Tue May 08, 2012 11:49 am

I have this on my wish list! I have a question... are the bones limited only to the ones in the kit? I guess what I'm asking is this a traditional bone set or are their other variations on throwing the bones? Can one add bones of their own to this set ? In listening to the LMHRH on podcast, it sounds like Miss Cat has additional items in her bones she read if I am understanding that right in listening....Just curious since I'm fairly new still and learning.
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Unread post by heartexalted » Tue May 08, 2012 12:26 pm

I've read in some places that you should learn bone reading from an experienced teacher in person, but the fact that the book and bones are being sold by LM seems to suggest that one can get started on one's own. Is that the case, or can one attain a decent skill level alone/with a long-distance teacher? Also, is this a skill that could be improved upon with a crossroads ritual? Thanks!
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Re: Divination Tools: Throwing the Bones

Unread post by Joseph Magnuson » Wed May 09, 2012 11:46 am

I have been self-teaching myself the bones for a little while now. It seems to be able to "piggy-back" on my natural seer gift quite nicely. If you are open to the spirits, or your ancestors, and can already interpret signs, you should have no problem learning the bones. A gifted teacher can't hurt at all...but is not absolutely necessary. Also, all skills can be improved upon with crossroads work. This is no different.
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Unread post by Joseph Magnuson » Wed May 09, 2012 12:17 pm

Yes, Odessa, you can certainly modify and add to your bone set as you see fit!
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Unread post by ckolb » Wed May 09, 2012 5:21 pm

Odessa,
I would like to add also that not only can you add bones, but you should; the kit above is basically a wonderful starter kit, after which you will be lead by you ancestors to add the various bones and curios that they will need to communicate to you.

I missed the workshop this year, but attending last years and now have the book, which is awesome; that book and your starter bone set and you'll hit the ground running for sure.

I don't know where you are, but at some point I plan on driving up to Lucky Mojo for a live in person bone reading with Cat. Not only because I want to get a reading from Cat, but also I believe that it will help me deepen my understanding of the bones. A traditional Sangoma spends a LOT of time with more experienced Sangoma's just watching them do readings and letting the knowledge seep in; obviously this is not an option for most of us but I plan to do what I can.
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Unread post by ckolb » Wed May 09, 2012 5:43 pm

Totally agree with Joseph Magnuson.

There are cases of gifted Sangoma's never being taught by (physical) teacher at all, they simply knew.
Of course most Sangoma spend a long time in a personal apprenticeship watching reading after reading and absorbing the skills.

Most importantly though, in traditional Sangoma readings and in our modified Sangoma-style Hoodoo bone reading system you DO have a teacher, many in fact; your ancestors.
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Re: Throwing the Bones: How to Foretell the Future with Bones

Unread post by Doctor Hob » Wed May 09, 2012 9:34 pm

If I have my dates right, the bone reading book should be shipping soon, and I can't wait to get my copy and my starter set of bones. I already have my first addition: a beautiful little skull carved from mammoth ivory, that something slapped me upside the head to get at a recent rock and gem show. I am very excited to start learning about throwing bones.
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Re: Throwing the Bones: How to Foretell the Future with Bones

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Wed May 09, 2012 9:51 pm

The Dixie Flatline is right -- the book "Throwing the Bones" has been shipping to all those who pre-ordered copies.

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Re: Throwing the Bones: How to Foretell the Future with Bones

Unread post by Odessa » Thu May 10, 2012 7:49 am

Thank you all for the answers on my question! ......I'm not too far from California, Ckolb. I hope to be able to go to Lucky Mojo myself for the workshops some time. I would love to learn how to read the bones over at LM.
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Unread post by BlackMoon » Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:39 am

I would start trying to "divination bones." Do you have any advice for a beginner?
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Unread post by Jibrael » Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:03 pm

I got my bone book and set last week! I have been studying the book, meditating on the bones that came with the set, and have already added a few bones of my own: a piece of petrified wood, a quartz crystal, a John the Conqueror root, and a chicken wish bone. I was drawn to this tool out of a desire to stretch my divination skills, expand and deepen my work with Hoodoo, and work even closer with my Ancestors, and I'm very eager to really get started.

Question: what would be a good traditional way to consecrate/bless my set? Having been a professional Tarot reader/instructor with multiple decks I have various ways I personally consecrate a divination tool, but if there is a traditional way to consecrate a bone-reading set I would much rather do that. This tool really feels like it wants me to treat it special, and with as much of the tradition as possible.

Thanks in advance for your advice, and thanks to Catherine Yronwode for signing my book; that was a very pleasant surprise! :)
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Re: Bone, Shell, and Nut Reading Questions and Answers

Unread post by Michele Jackson » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:44 pm

I was recently lucky enough to visit Miss Cat and everyone at the Lucky Mojo Shop and while I was there I picked up a starter set of Bones and Miss Cat's book. I have been hooked ever since. I have a couple of questions though for anyone who is working with this form of divination. I have the baby doll head and I filled it with the dirt of a spirit who has agreed to work with me but I think my spirit has changed its mind because I can not make much sense out of this piece in my bone set. It seems to always fall on the outer edge of the throw by itself, face down or looking away from the other pieces. On the few occasions when it does land in the midst of the throw it just doesn't seem to contribute anything to the reading. If it were looking at a piece or group of pieces I could interpret that as this being something important to be paid attention to, but it never seems to land that way. I have even worked with it alone to see if it wanted to be removed from the set, but it didn't. For now I will keep working with it and see how it goes, but I am curious to hear how others using this piece interpret it.

I have also been looking at bone sets on the web and the variety is fascinating. Each set is truly unique. I am still building my set - adding pieces and taking them away as I learn how they speak to me, or not. I am very excited to see myself how my set finally settles out and I suspect that pieces may be coming and going forever as I learn more and build a better relationship with them. I had a reading done by a friend with his set and I learned a lot from that as he explained his process as he went along. I am also gleaning quite a bit from listening to the Lucky Mojo Radio Hour since Miss Cat usually throws the bones at some point during the show. I am rambling now, but suffice to say, I would love to discuss this divination method further with anyone interested in doing so.

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Re: Bone, Shell, and Nut Reading Questions and Answers

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:49 pm

Hello, Jibrael --

It is traditional to smoke objects in incense to bless them for the work.

Hi, Michele --

I am so glad you have taken to bone reading. An endorsement from someone of your experiencse, wisdom, and stature in the community means a lot to me. Thanks.

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As for the doll-head, i too have seen it land looking away -- not interested, it seems. I think that because it contains the spirit of a human being, it is a bit more temperamental than many of the animal bones. But when it does speak -- it really does. In fact, it tends to become the center of the conversation.

I have seen it "look" at a buckeye nut (health) and demand that we speak of the sitter's health when the sitter simply wanted a love reading.

I have seen it "look" at a wish bone and tell me to tell the sitter that a wish, long despaired of, would be coming true soon.

Also, like you, i too find myself adding to and subtracting from my bone set over time. I have had losses due to my cat stealing little bones and due to my own myopia -- leaving small bones on the ground and losing them. I have also given away bones to people who seemed to need or want them. Likewise i have had special bones given to me by visitors, and i have "fallen in love with" bones that came into the shop for resale and felt it necessary to keep them. Being a strong believer in synchronicity, i have taken these losses and gains as part of the natural ebb and flow of my life.
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Re: Bone, Shell, and Nut Reading Questions and Answers

Unread post by Michele Jackson » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:56 pm

Thank you Miss Cat. This makes perfect sense. My sense of it is also that if it looks at something that piece or group of pieces would be important, but my spirit seems to be disinterested. The few times it has landed in a way that I could call participatory, it looks up or away. Could be that most of the readings I throw are just for practice interpreting, and therefore not worth the spirit's effort. I do throw one real reading every morning for the day, but not much interest there either. As I said, I will keep working with it and see how it goes. It doesn't want to be removed so maybe it is waiting for an important reading or a reading for someone else to speak up. I am thinking of going to Balboa Park and reading for free some weekend, away fom the Plaza where the professional readers congregate, or maybe hook up with one of the local shops to offer free readings. I'm sure I'll wear my friends out as well, foisting readings on them unbidden. I am excited about divination again!
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Unread post by Michele Jackson » Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:20 am

Is anyone actively working with the bones? Aside from Miss Cat, that is.
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Unread post by Papa Newt » Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:54 am

I have been working with my Bone Reading set for over a year, I believe, and been enjoying it. Plus had the great opportunity to take Miss Cat's M.I.S.C. Workshop and her workshop in Santa Cruz on the subject which has helped greatly. Never once have I not been amazed at what the bones will say and the insight given.
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Re: Bone, Shell, and Nut Reading Questions and Answers

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:17 am

Well, just based on the sales of our bone sets with instructions plus sales of my book "Throwing the Bones" -- that is, NOT counting the people i personally know who were already working with bones before i published on the subject (like Jeffrey Vanderson in AIRR and the other folks mentioned in the acknowledgements of my book) -- there should be between 200 people (the number who have purchased bone sets) and 400 people (the number who purchased books only) currently aware of and working with some or all of the methods i have described.
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Unread post by Michele Jackson » Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:43 pm

Papa_Newt wrote:I have been working with my Bone Reading set for over a year, I believe, and been enjoying it. Plus had the great opportunity to take Miss Cat's M.I.S.C. Workshop and her workshop in Santa Cruz on the subject which has helped greatly. Never once have I not been amazed at what the bones will say and the insight given.
That's great to hear! Have you added anything to he original set?
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Re: Bone, Shell, and Nut Reading Questions and Answers

Unread post by Michele Jackson » Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:32 pm

Many folks are reading this thread so I am guessing there is some interest.

I have been working with them every day since I got them and I am also impressed with how well they read, despite my tinkering with which bones I plan to keep in the set more or less permanently. It's like making your own tarot deck - exciting, but a little scary too.

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Re: Bone, Shell, and Nut Reading Questions and Answers

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:39 pm

Michele, because the acquisition of bones is not through any kind of steady sources, we have made dozens of variant sets. They all contain bones, nuts, shells, items carved of bone, and small items of symbolic importance.

We are continually sourcing and acquiring new bone items and non-bone for these sets. We recently got in a number of turkey wishbones, raccoon penis bones, weasel jaw bones, bone and ebony dominoes, and bisque doll legs. This past weekend we went to a wholesale gem show and came back with hundreds of carved bone skull beads, bone dice, and feathers finely carved of bone for distribution into divination sets, and then we met a dealer from Africa who had hundreds of rare antique British West African half-penny coins (the tiny fabulous ones with the Star of David on them) which will go into some of the sets and will also be available singly.

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Re: Bone, Shell, and Nut Reading Questions and Answers

Unread post by Michele Jackson » Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:50 pm

I actually have one of those coins. It is in my I'm not sure container of suitable items that I am considering. I thought it might be useful to indicate a small sum of money, but for now I am working with a silver dime to represent money in general. It will probably make it into the final set once I get more comfortable reading the number I have now.

I also noticed that different sets had different items. I ordered a mink jaw because I liked the idea of the jaw for gossip and mine did not have one. I have a Little John root for more eloquent speech.

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:51 pm

Yours is in very nice condition. Ours are definitely circulated, and vari-coloured, as shown.
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Unread post by Joseph Magnuson » Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:01 am

Beautiful! A great new acquisition. Thank you for sharing these.
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Re: Bone, Shell, and Nut Reading Questions and Answers

Unread post by MissMichaele » Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:42 pm

Michelej2 wrote:Thank you Miss Cat. This makes perfect sense. My sense of it is also that if it looks at something that piece or group of pieces would be important, but my spirit seems to be disinterested. The few times it has landed in a way that I could call participatory, it looks up or away. Could be that most of the readings I throw are just for practice interpreting, and therefore not worth the spirit's effort. I do throw one real reading every morning for the day, but not much interest there either.
And yet the spirit insists on being included.

I wonder if he or she might not be an interested observer who does not -- yet -- have anything in particular to say. S/he might be overseeing and blessing your progress as a bone reader.
I am thinking of going to Balboa Park and reading for free some weekend, away fom the Plaza where the professional readers congregate,
Or maybe see if any of them are interested in trading readings with you.

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Unread post by Michele Jackson » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:51 pm

Thank you Miss Michaele,

That is s a good idea. Maybe I will trade with readers here at the forum as well if it is allowed.
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Unread post by JimtheConjure » Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:37 pm

Hi Michelej2!

I've been working with the Bones for a little over a year. Started with the LM starter kit and since then my set has tripled thanks to LM! I loved Miss Cat's book and got the chance to go the the workshops in May. For what it's worth I thought I'd share two things. During a reading, Miss Cat gave me some great advice about reading for people in general. She said to "get 100/give100" readings and at the end your skill set will have grown exponentially. So, I went onto Facebook and told all of my "friends" that I was learning to read bones and needed some practice. Within a week I had 30 readings booked. Every reading taught me something about myself as a reader and about the Bones, like which ones wanted to take part in EVERY reading and which ones were more cautious, specifically the doll head! Haha! I could totally relate to your post about that piece!

Secondly, the first few readings were so intimidating to me because I felt like I needed so much time to correctly hear what the Bones were saying. So I decided to do some of the first readings as email readings. That way I could throw the Bones and really take my time understanding them. I took a picture of each casting and emailed it to the client with a full explanation. Then I transitioned back to in-person readings with a little more confidence.

I'm still adding to the set! The Weasel mandible has been really helpful and I've added Deer astragalus bones for the client to throw, both from LM.

Can't wait to get the African half-pennies!

Hope you're all well!

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Re: Bone, Shell, and Nut Reading Questions and Answers

Unread post by Michele Jackson » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:29 pm

Hi Jim,

Thanks for the advice. I have been really enjoying working with the bones. I thought about offering them on FB, but I am a long time tarot reader and I am concerned that my friends would be expecting more than I am qualified to do at this point. Plus 30 or a similar number of requests at once would make me feel swamped before I began! Maybe I can take the first 5 and see how it goes and do them that way. I am thinking that going to the park will allow me to do as much or as little as I wish. I am also thinking of offering to read at some of the local shops, but again I don't want to take money from folks who are reading there professionally by offering a reduced rate or free reading while I get my sea legs. Maybe I will be able to work something out on a day when there is no reader scheduled or if the reader is out sick or something. It will all come together somehow. Maybe we will see each other at the next workshop.
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