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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread post by littlewing » Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:08 pm

Thanks Aida. I appreciate your kind words. 2016 certainly started out with a bang! My friend thinks it's a good omen for big change in my life. I certainly hope so. I also got a $300 parking ticket on my street on NYE so there is definitely something going on with where I live.
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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread post by littlewing » Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:06 pm

My landlord is amending my rental agreement to disallow the use of candles. Seems reasonable as a result of the fire, but is this a freedom of religion issue?
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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread post by Papa Newt » Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:16 pm

That is a very good question, littlewing, but I'm not sure if the best answer to your question would be found here on the forum. You may want to consider speaking with a lawyer who specializes in this area.
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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:35 pm

littlewing,

I know of no religion that requires the burning of candles in the homes of the laity. Even in Judaism, where it is certainly the custom to light a Sabbath candle in the home, exceptions are routinely made for those who are unable to do so.

Remember, hoodoo is Christian African-American folk magic. It is not a religion.

If you belong to a religion that DOES require that lay people must burn candles in the home, you would need to present proof from a member of your clergy.

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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread post by MissMichaele » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:59 am

Pugpaw, first of all, don't BLOW a candle out unless you are ending the work before the candle finishes burning -- say, if you change your mind about doing it. SNUFF it out instead, if you must put it out temporarily. By all means, say a brief prayer from your heart every time you snuff the candle out.

I have a snuffer which looks something like this. The "bell" is riveted to the handle in such a way that it is hinged, and swivels freely. I can lower it down right onto the flame of a vigil light, if I need to -- and if the glass is wide enough.

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By the way, DO NOT put a vigil light in a pan of water! The difference in temperature between the water and the hot wax will break the glass! Sure, the water will prevent a fire, but you've built way too much drama into your work! If you want fireproof material around the base of the candle, use salt or clean sand. Even kitty litter -- right out of the bag, of course!

Yes, do be vigilant about fire safety. Glass-encased candles are much safer than free-standing candles, unless they get knocked over or unless the flame touches the glass, which can happen if the wick is very crooked. In the latter case, the glass will crack or break, and melted wax may pour out. This is another good reason to burn candles on a fireproof surface or in a bed of sand.

With these extra, insulating safety measures, you should have no fear of vigil lights burning straight through.

Tapers are another story -- that is truly OPEN flame, on a tall, narrow candle that is liable to tip over. It is quite traditional to burn them in sections; see http://www.luckymojo.com/candlemagic.html. Scroll down to "Dressing, Marking, Measuring,
Lighting, and Extinguishing Candles."

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Unread post by littlewing » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:56 pm

Thanks Papa Newt and miss cat. I don't think I have any claim to the right to burn candles. I was just curious if this has come up before. I will just have to rely on MISC and my rootworker.
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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread post by aniviel » Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:00 am

Thanks for this thread. My whole apartment is carpeted so I wasn't sure if it's "okay" to do my work in the bathroom, the only room where there's barely anything that could catch fire. So now I know it's not only okay, it's actually recommended in my case just to be safe :) I will just sit there by it while it's burning and if I have to leave anything unattempted it'll be on a pan with a bit of water.

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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread post by UniversalForce72 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:08 am

Hello:

I will be doing negative work using a vigil candle(glass encased). It will be placed on a large metal cooking pan and located away from anything flammable. Is it unlikely that the paper(s) for incantation etc., placed under the candle will catch fire once the wax burns to the bottom and heats the glass in that portion?

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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread post by natstein » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:34 pm

Hello Universalforce73,

I have never had a petition paper under a glass encased vigil candle catch fire. If you are really concerned I have seen smallish marble circles for sale that are for putting candles on. Find on of those and place the petition under the marble and set your candle on it But honestly I do not think you have anything to worry about.

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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread post by UniversalForce72 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:19 am

Ok, thanks for taking time out to respond.....

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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread post by aniviel » Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:51 pm

I've been putting vigil candles on top of pictures/petitions in my shower, and I only move them to the toilet/sink when I shower in the mornings. My shower is pretty large, surrounded by thick glass.

Right now I have a Bewitching candle burning there. I noticed that candles I leave there always come out slightly sooty at the top. This one is already very sooty. Possibly as well because the weather has been very hot. The glass around the candle (especially at the top) is so so so hot I'm worried it might overheat and explode. There's still about a 1/3 candle to go. Not sure what to do. Would snuffing it out and relighting after a day be a better option?

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Unread post by Miss Aida » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:41 pm

Hello, lalyil ,

This is normal.

And if you put it out and relight it, the fire will still get as hot as it is now. And, if the glass is cooled and then goes to that temperature right away, you could indeed break the glass. So, it's not recommended

These candles are designed to be heat resistant up to a certain temperature that can sustain heat from candle flames. Bu, not if the glass is cool and then gets hot again because you're changing the molecular composition of the glass

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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread post by aniviel » Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:52 am

Thanks Miss Aida,

Well I got a bit concerned it'll stain or burn the picture (I've never had a vigil candle turn this hot and sooty before) so I put a plate (which had some remains of a candle burnt for almost the same goal) over the picture then on the plate I put the petition and the vigil, so even if it stains anything it's not that bad.

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Unread post by imtempel » Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:23 pm

I created my own peaceful home candle and put it on the kitchen table. I needed this candle in haste, as my partner and I have been going through emotional issues lately. Today was the second day I lit it and it was going for a few hours and as we were watching a film, out of nowhere I said I was gonna go outside in the backyard and I would be back. Well to get the the backyard you go through the kitchen and as soon as I stepped in there the candle was in flames and if I would've walked in there a minute later it would all be in flames. It was right beside my magic shelves with all of my herbs oils and tools.

I don't know how to interpret this. Cheap candle? Too much oil? Something attacking my practice (since it was beside all of my tools)? It is going to take more than a candle to achieve a peaceful home?

I'm a little shaken up as this just happened.

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Fri Sep 02, 2016 4:45 am

Intempel, we don't know how you made the candle, so we cannot comment on the physics or chemistry or your particular combination of wax, herbs, and oils. However, speaking from a magical standpoint, i would suspect stress in the home more than an attack by someone outside the home, unless a reading has indicated an attack.

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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread post by NickyOberlin89 » Thu May 25, 2017 4:35 am

Thanks! I'll try a metal cooking pan next time.

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Unread post by Honeybeelight » Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:50 pm

Something like this was asked before. I have big candle soot marks coming out of every air vent in the house. Can’t figure out why, since I’m burning them outdoors in a hurricane lantern. I can’t repaint every time, because it is happening fast and some of my ceilings are 17’ high. I’m halfway through the Unjinxing Kif, but I think I have to stop burning candles. What should I do?
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Unread post by jwmcclin » Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:59 pm

Honeybeelight, it appears you have three loaded questions here, are you asking about the candle burn, the soot, or should you stop based on the soot? Its just not clearly presented here...at least thats my interpretation.
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Unread post by Honeybeelight » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:58 pm

Should I stop based on the soot? I’m not worried about how the candles are burning just now, and I already have to burn them outside because of my health: it’s just making an almighty mess and I don’t know why. EDIT: I should add that I make an effort to do things exactly as Miss Cat instructs and I’m not looking for excuses or anything like that.
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Unread post by Miss Aida » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:16 pm

Hello, Honeybeelight,

Yu know what has my alarm going on?

The hurricane lantern. The construction (and the name itself) bothers me I am wondering if this is the cause of the problems

Why don't you change this and see what happens?

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Unread post by Honeybeelight » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:27 pm

Thank you, Miss Aida. I’ll try it. I have to burn the candles outside, and with dry stuff and Santa Ana winds, I worry about setting my house and the rest of the neighborhood on fire. The hurricane lantern could be it, though, or burning vigil lights 24/7. If I get into doing this a lot, I’m gonna go all mini-Deacon and build something out of concrete and cinder blocks!
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Re: Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic

Unread post by Winter_star » Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:16 pm

Cats! They are mischevious and in general have zero respect for altars or fire safety!

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Unread post by Miss Aida » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:21 pm

Hello, Winter_star,

That is very true.

And a GREAT reminder to EVERYBODY to PLEASE KEEP YOUR ANIMALS AWAY FROM ALTARS.

They should never have access to them

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Unread post by alchemyofmagick1206 » Wed May 09, 2018 8:00 am

Hi family,
I am so upset right now. I have been working my headwork, skull spell for the last 7 days now. I began last week Wed and have been praying and putting so much energy into this candle. I finally lit it this morning at 12 am and saw such a beautiful flame I have never seen before. It was so high and bright and I "witness the messages being carried", meaning there was a smokey black tip of the flame so high and just, idk was beautiful.

The candle burned all night and I had checked on it every 15 min literally and it was perfect. I knew my partner would be home today, so i left it to burn, instructing him how to snuff it out of need be (my dad is a retired fire lt so I know these things). He was to set his alarm clock to check it at least every 15 and fell asleep. He just called me (I'm at work) to tell me it caught on fire. All I heard in the background was the fire alarms. Instead of following directions, in a panic, he threw water on it twice (making it worse), then threw salt on it, it calmed down, and then threw more water which ceased the fire.

I am now so upset that he did not follow directions (which I can't be mad at him, this is really my fault for leaving this in his hands), but am wondering if anyone has suggestions on next steps. Should I do this over, should I leave it alone being the flame itself had been so successful for hours on end...any suggs welcome.

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Unread post by Sister Jean » Wed May 09, 2018 9:43 am

Hello alchemyofmagick1206,

I'm so sorry that this happened to your spell. If this were me, I'd start completely over, sorry. But throwing water on a candle spell is a pretty surefire way to kill it. Wishing you luck for next time!
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Unread post by alchemyofmagick1206 » Fri May 11, 2018 6:47 am

Sister Jean, thank you so much for your response. I have been practicing for years with my grandmother and mom. When my g-ma passed, my mom and I had a falling out and now that I am alone, I realize how many things I actually don't know when things go wrong. I am appreciative of your response and will be starting all over today, making it 5 days of intention and just being more careful this time around.

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Unread post by SugarLoveHoney » Tue May 29, 2018 2:20 am

Hey everyone, I just finished a 7 day love spell. There was some remaining wax after the candle burned down but the herbs around the candle started on fire and melted the remaining wax, which I took as a good sign. Also there was 2 fires that formed on each side of the herbs that became one which I took as a good sign as in trying to reunite someone with me. It became a mini fire and melted the remaining wax as well as starting to melt the candle next to it I had going with road opener that was taking a little longer than the other. The fire was kinda getting out of hand though...so I blew it out which I don’t do because I’ve read not to. I’ve now read that ends the spell Will that ruin my Spell even though the candle was already melted away and finished? I hope blowing out that fire didn’t destroy my spell but I was worried it wasn’t going to stop :?

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Unread post by Sister Jean » Tue May 29, 2018 9:41 am

Hello SugarLoveHoney,

I can't be sure if this will affect your spell. It might, because spells aren't supposed to be blown out. I'd say to just give it some time and see what results you get. If you don't get the results you want, do the spell again.

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Unread post by MissElisia » Thu May 31, 2018 6:13 am

Hi all, I was doing a relationship spell and placed the photo inside the holder, under the candle. Dumb, I know that in retrospect, but I didn't want my SO to notice I was doing work on him. Well, the candle burnt down and burned the photo to ash. This was intended to be a two-part work, restoring peace first, then burning a second candle on the photo w Adam and Eve oil. I'm not sure how I should interpret the photo being burned up or if I ought to continue the spell, or start over- it went for 3 days and peace has held, tho I've been using oil on the target and myself as well, to support the work.

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Thu May 31, 2018 9:27 pm

MissElisia --

I would start over. I do not consider the fire safety problems encountered by newish practitioners to be signs or omens i the normal sense. You did something unsafe, you learned a lesson -- try again.
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Unread post by Madhu » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:06 pm

I’ve been working a honey jar for 5 days. I was planning on lighting candles for 7 days for this spell.

Tonight the wax caught fire because I had put some rose petals under the candle. The rose caught fire and melted all the was from previous burns. The honey boiled and seeped out of the jar. Also the jar turned black on the outside glass. The fire spread to my cloth and I caught it in time to extinguish. The fire even burned my pearl mala necklace.

All the candles burned out.

My main question is do i continue using this honey jar or start over again? Are there negative forces working against me!

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:42 am

Madhu --

I am sorry that this happened to you, and glad that you were on-site when it happened, and not asleep, and so you were able to limit the damage and no lives were lost.

I have moved your query from the "Honey Jar" thread to the "Fire Safety" thread. This thread contains three pages of essentially similar stories, so you are not the first one to have stepped out of the safety zone. Read the above accounts, please.

I am not going to divine on the situation for you, but as a long-time worker who has read for folks in many such cases, i can say that in my opinion, your carelessness with fire does not indicate an attack. You were the one who placed a combustible item under an open flame. It was you who made that choice, not someone sending evil to you.

Dispose of the ruined honey jar and start again.
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Unread post by jon saint germain » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:24 am

I agree with Ms. Cat. As I say (it seems a lot) "Not everything is Spiritual. " Sometimes bad luck is just a result of normal conditions. Just because you stub your toe on the way to the bathroom in the middle of the night doesn't mean someone is throwin on you. Bless you Rev Jon SG
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