Oh, my God. There is just so much to unpack, here. I don't know where to begin.
I'll start by saying that you have mixed information from two of my posts, for one thing. There is no reference to sweeteners in this one. You should be paying more attention to the text if you expect to be able to help me at all . That wasn't the first time I noticed you weren't paying attention to what I write, plain and simple. And not only that, scolding me with what you had misunderstood from my text, due to your own reading inadequacies.
Now, as to my choice of materials employed. Let's start with myrrh. Dr Johannes, a certified AIRR member, has said in this very forum that myrrh had somewhat intoxicating capacities and could be an aid in preparing instruments to hypnotize people. In the article there is in the Herb-Magic website under myrrh there is reference to it being "almost intoxicating" and of this property being employed in the equivalent manner - ironically, in an incense to create a sexual atmosphere. Added to that, there is the element of it being an inducer of a spiritual sentiment. It has both things in it, both convenient to my goal, and that is why I chose it! I need something to lower their resistance, thus the intoxicating aspect; and there's the spiritual aspect, which is pretty much to symbolize the goal of this whole endeavour.
As to shame briar. Miss Cat and I have discussed here:
viewtopic.php?f=39&t=20352&p=386561#p386561 how it could be used to cause someone to become a prude. She said it wasn't strictly traditional, but based upon some solid principles and thus it would probably be effective.
See? you censored me for things that for other people would have made sense. I can tell you that a moderator would have understood what I was saying, or at least would have been open to say, if I were insisting too much on something and realising that I had some references to show for, "this doesn't make any sense for me, here, but since you've insisted so much in this, let's hope Miss Cat intervenes here". But you are so absolutely sure that you bear the ultimate truth that you cannot stop yourself from trying to embarass me. This is all very afflictive.
I do not like your tone. Don't bother repplying to me ever again, JayDee . And "the other convo" was not about this topic which you would have known if you had actually read any of what I've written with care, and I will have you know that I have invested years of paid consultation with AIRR members and books bought to further my education. How dare you tell me something rude like that? what kind of authority do you think you have? Even if I were saying something inadequate, you should just leave me be and have an actual forum moderator adress me. Has this new badge thing gone up your head?
As to how I would manage things. I will describe it step by step so that no one else will have the wrong impression about it, as you did. And then they can tell me if there is something wrong with how I thought this through or give me helpful suggestions, because I don't even trust your answers anymore.
I. I'll go to the grave of a minister of God and tell them that someone I know hasn't been religious enough. I'll tell the deceased that I need their help in teaching this person to become more religious and morally righteous. I will be hiring this spirit to cast it's influence over that person, so that it may help me with the task of effecting change in their mentality and behaviour, by buying dirt from their grave. That dirt I will bring home with me to use it in further steps.
II. I will pick up the shame briar and allow it to dry after passing my fingers through it and telling the person to be shamed of their life conduct, in being immoral and not respecting God.
III. I will then mix the leaves of the shame briar, after they have dried up, with bits of calamus and myrrh resine.
IV. I will then prepare a petition paper in the back of the person's photograph using the verses from Scripture I have mentioned. It is a pescription, by Paul the apostle, on how the new christians should go about in their mission of conversion - relentlessly, in continuous prayer and applying a certain degree of force. The sentiment is very fitting for what I am trying to achieve here, which is the conversion of someone who has a great resistance to christian faith. This work has a strong alignment of domination to it.
V. I will then cross those verses with a prayer. "May so and so be ashamed of the lifestyle they've been leading as it has been leading them astray from God. May their resistance be broken and may them be brought to morality and religion on their knees. Amen". Something like that.
VI. I will then place my herb mixture atop of the petition paper, which will be over a plate.
VII. I will then light three candles around that plate, symbolizing the holy trinity and to add potency to the work.
VIII. I will then light a candle right in the middle of everything, right atop of the herb mixture, right atop of the petition paper, calling for the intercession of God's prophet Jeremiah as I light it. He spent his life warning people to do the right thing and to do right by the Lord. Basically I will say "I light this candle to God Almighty, in the name of his son Jesus Christ, and to his prophet Jeremiah, asking for help in this situation".
IX. I will then pray the portions of the book of Jeremiah in which he warns people to be righteous or otherwise punishment will fall upon them.
X. I will then speak to the spirit of Jeremiah in my own words, telling him that so and so haven't been leading their life accordingly to God's will and that I need his help in bringing these people down. In the book of Jeremiah, he foretold punishment for those who would disobey the word of the Lord, and for that, for that violence contained in his portion of the scripture, one can understand that it can be used in such a manner, to get people who are doing imoral things to be righteous. Instead of calling out to his spirit I could just pray the portion of the book of Jeremiah describing the warnings and the punishments that followed, but I am chosing to adress the spirit itself, much as it is commonly done to Moses when people ask him for help in civil rights causes and such - since it was a struggle he lived through, as we are told by the portion of the bible describing his life's story.
XI. Just before the candles burn down, I will lift the middle candle from it's holder in order to pick up the petition paper that is underneath - thus causing the herbs to fall directly into the plate, which is ok - and burn that petition paper in the flame of that candle.
XII. I will then take the ashes from the petition paper and mix it with the herbs.
XIII. I will divide the herb mixture into three different portions. The first portion I will use as incense, which I will burn over their name written on paper, in order to influence their thoughts.
XIV. the second portion I will mix with dirt from my previously gathered dirt from the grave of the spirit that agreed with teaching a lesson on morality to the target of this work. This portion I will use to sprinkle where the target will have direct physical contact with it.
XV. the third portion I will place into an empty jar, along with another petition paper - perhaps with the same written information written on it, as before -, along with some needles. Since there is much of domination involved in this - the calamus, the strong words in the scripture I have chosen - one can say that there is a certain coercive aspect to the work, to coerce the person to be righteous, moral and religious. The needles will help with that, by causing them discomfort when they are doing the wrong thing, or by taking the other elements to "Prick deep" into the person's mind. It is the same principle as adding needles into love jars, for instance.
This is it. I just spent nearly two hours writing it down with the uttermost detail and clarity I could manage, and it was absolutely worth it. I am sure that for most people that answer questions here it wouldn't be necessary to break this down into 15 different steps, but I wanted to make sure ir was perfectly clear, either way.
Now if someone competent and with adequate reading skills may do me the kindness of repplying to my question - namely, one of the moderators -, whenever it is possible, please review my work concept and tell me if it is proper, if there is anything frail in it or that could be improved. [/b] Thank you very much!