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Re: General Honey / Sugar / Sweet Jar Questions and Answers

Unread post by JayDee » Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:07 pm

aniviel ,

Great that the prayer was answered today, that is a good sign. Open a window if you can to allow the smoke out, or do it in a garage then open it and let the smoke out ( what I do when I am sick and cant have smoke around). Iv accidentally blew a candle out before praying over it too hard, I understand! Honey jars are container spell, the jar itself is a spell and is working upon its conception, another method often deployed with them is a candle to work them, so yes you are correct.
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Unread post by aniviel » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:05 pm

The problem is actually smoking the cigar when my throat hurts, of course. That's not very good for my throat! :lol: but I'll find a way.

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:43 pm

Aniviel,

Tobacco is a toxic poison. The practitioner's use of cigars in magic is not part of hoodoo per se. It is, however, a liturgically and clerically endorsed practice in a few Afro-Caribbean religions and their associated magical traditions. In the USA, Native Americans smoke sacred tobacco in a pipe.

African American hoodoo practice, insofar as it does call for tobacco, is not specific as to whether a cigarette, a pipe, a cigar, or burning the tobacco as incense is preferred.

I am sure that no one here or who is coming out of old-school hoodoo told you to smoke a cigar on a honey or sugar ja to "wake up spirits." You are on your own -- or coming from an Afro-Caribbean practice with that idea.

If you are a member of a religion in which the smoking of a cigar on your honey jar is clerically or liturgically indicated, by all means feel free to practice your religion -- but if you think that this is somehow a hoodoo practice ... it's not.

What is much more typical of hoodoo-style is praying over a name in sugar or honey, cooking with the sweetener, and feeding it to the one you wish to sweeten.
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Re: General Honey / Sugar / Sweet Jar Questions and Answers

Unread post by Fawd2019 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:41 am

Hey, how do i “work” a honey jar? Without using candles? How can I put my intentions into it everyday? I have a honey jar that’s just sitting in the corner, what should I be doing to it? I’ve had some contact with my target she texted my twice but when I texted her she didn’t respond.. Can someone tell me why does that happened? I’ve also had two readings done.. one said she’s in the “Knight of pentacles” and needs time to develop her feelings but she feels that the future will be with us together.. the other said “she’s my soul mate” but communication is hard right now.. can someone help!! Thanks..

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Unread post by Fawd2019 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:41 am

I wish someone could please answer why when you text a target sometimes they don’t respond even if the day before you were having a long great conversation with them..

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Unread post by JayDee » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:06 am

Fawd2019,

A honey jar is a container spell that works as itself, meaning the jar is a spell, many people (including myself) also add candles to it ( another spell) because they work well together, however it is not required. Many ways to work a honey jar even without burning candles. I know people who tap the side 3 times as they call the person and their petition, then lightly rock the jar ( not shaking ) back and forth as they say their petition and prayer with psalms. Another way and a very common way is to use the honey to cook with and feed to your lover.

Why does a target comment then not comment? This is common, you are doing love work on an individual that is not ready ( according to your statement from a reading), this is also what many people experience which is not being patient enough. Magic is not like the movies where it happens that second (though it can). You may also be experiencing what we call movement, the girl reached out to you but is not fully where you want to be. This would indicate to keep the work up.

I would also try doing other spells to assist with this, including a mojo, and having candles burned for you at MISC if you cannot burn them yourself.

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Unread post by curiouslyhere » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:18 am

I have a honey jar going for reconciliation work and have burned dozens of candles on it, and none of them have ever left any residue other than a tiny piece of wick left at the bottom. Today, for the first time, I had residue from a candle I was burning. There were three trails of tears (is that right?) that were left after the candle had burned down. They went down over the lid and onto the honey jar. Looking at the honey jar, one was in the back, one was in the front, and one was at the right corner of the jar. I've never wondered what to do with honey jar remains since I've never had any. I'm wondering what this sudden change could mean and if I should dispose of the remains from candles on honey jars or not (since honey jars are continual)? Thank you

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Unread post by Miss Athena » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:25 am

Hi Fawd2019,

From all of your posts that I have read and answered, it seems you are overly anxious and have difficulty finding patience in your own work. I know that you have a difficult situation on your hands that has caused you much agony, and I am extremely sympathetic, but your best ally here will be your own calmness and faith in your work.

Please trust me when I say that it's not helping your cause to fret over not having an instant response from her. This is sending a signal to Spirit that you don't trust it to help you, and this is not the energy you want to be putting out there. You have already been getting movement, so don't question why she doesn't respond to a text with the speed you want. Her delay may have absolutely nothing to do with her feelings for you. She may just have other things going on, so give it time.

The moderators on this forum volunteer their time to answer questions posed to us here, and I can assure you that every question will get an answer. Please don't repeat a question as your first one will be seen. Once again, having patience is a virtue.

I would suggest that you do some work for yourself to calm your energy and allow yourself to breathe. Tranquility products are perfect for this, and I believe I've recommended them to you before. Please take advantage of them as they can help you feel better about your work and your situation, and you will gain some needed perspective to help optimize your chance of success.
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I hope this helps, and I keep you in my prayers. Good luck.
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Unread post by aniviel » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:05 pm

Thank you Catherine,

It was actually here that someone suggested blowing cigar smoke into the candle's flame and speaking to it (I believe it was in this topic even, some pages back). I don't remember who, but I've been using it with the candles on my honey jar. It became a part of my ritual.

My honey jar has completely shaken up this precious friendship of mine, so I am grateful to you, LM and all the tips I've been getting here. It's been more than helpful in ways I didn't imagine. But truthfully the spirits were on the side of this friendship from day one, the both of us have spoken of that.

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Unread post by JayDee » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:02 am

aniviel ,

It is a trick to puff smoke in the face of a figure candle, skull candle, photo as you state the intention. Tobacco can also be used for communication, as is deers tongue.

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Unread post by aniviel » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:55 pm

I guess I didn't make it clear that that is exactly what I've been doing..

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Unread post by Miss Athena » Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:07 pm

Hi aniviel,

No worries, we understood you correctly. I share your dislike of cigars. Miss cat gave us all a great lesson in her response.

As a non-smoker myself, I personally don't use cigars etc. in my work. I do leave unlit cigars on my ancestor altar, as offerings to my relatives who enjoyed them but that is the extent of my use of them.

I'm thrilled to hear you've been getting good results from your honey jar. Nice work!
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Unread post by aniviel » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:16 am

Thank you very much Miss Athena

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Unread post by alexinmadison » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:14 am

I’d like to dispose (not deploy) a honey jar. I’ve read through every post I could find on the subject, including miss cat’s article here: http://www.luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html

but I’m still confused by what to do.

A honey jar is full of sticky goo and it’s a glass jar. Do I separate the contents from the jar for disposal? I simply can’t visualize how to dispose of it at a crossroads - do I dump all the contents out of the jar? What do I do with the jar then? I could, certainly, bury the whole thing at a graveyard but it’s the middle of winter and the ground is frozen solid. What about a water disposal? Are there options beyond putting it in natural running water (down the toilet or in the sink)? If I did dispose of it in a lake or a stream, do I punch a hole in the lid??

All insight will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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Unread post by JayDee » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:56 am

alexinmadison ,

You can pour the content out at the crossroad, pour it out, pray to the spirit to take it, leave an offering of coins, go home and wash the container and recycle it. Put in running water, pour out at a tree stump. You pour the content out and recycle the lid, dont throw the jar in the lid. IF you toss the honey jar still intact in running water you still are keeping the individuals sweetened just downriver. I would not do a toilet because of the possibility of that clogging a pipe.

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Other post about this question with answers: post391321.html?hilit=disposal%20of%20h ... ar#p391321
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Unread post by Miss Athena » Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:53 pm

Hi alexinmadison,

There is a big difference between disposal and deployment, and your list of suggested actions mixes up these two intentions.

To dispose of a honey jar, meaning you are ending the work entirely as it is no longer needed, you can open the jar and run the contents under the faucet using warm water to break up the honey. Tell Spirit you are ending the spell as you do so. Remove any large articles from the jar, such as a petition packet, and rinse them in ammonia. Clean and recycle the jar. Put the large articles in the garbage.

Deploying the jar, such as taking it to a crossroads or throwing it in running water, will not end the spell but do the opposite.

Please read this post that Miss cat wrote, which includes information on disposal and deployment so you can get a better idea on how to handle spell remains.

I hope this helps. Good luck.
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Unread post by forgiveness » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:30 pm

What does it mean if a bug flies into your candle and dies in the wax? I’m assuming it can’t be a good sign. I feel bad for the little guy. Also I’ve been lightning candles on top of that jar for weeks and nothing has happened- my boyfriend hasn’t come back, I haven’t heard from him, he doesn’t contact me... he seems to be living his life just fine & happy. I need him to forgive me and come back to me. I did a really fucked up thing. I feel so guilty. I miss him so much.

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Unread post by Miss Athena » Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:33 pm

Hi forgiveness,

It can mean a number of things. Either someone is interfering in your work, or the bug took a hit for you, or something else.

Since you're not seeing signs or movement from your work, my best advice is for you to get a reading. This can help you gain clarity on your situation, and also get advice on any other rootwork you could be performing (or have performed for you by a professional). You can find qualified readers and rootworkers here:
www.readersandrootworkers.org/
www.hoodoopsychics.com

I hope this helps. Good luck.
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Unread post by alexinmadison » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:53 am

Miss Athena,

Thank you for the clear and concise answer. Even though I did read through the entirety of the Laying Down Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remains chapter of Hoodoo in Theory and Practice, and I read through a number of disposal posts on the forum, I obviously was still confused by the the results of the methods. Are there any “guidelines” that I can apply that differentiate a disposal from a deployment? For example, your solution would indicate dismantling of the spell components, “washing” them in such a way as to remove any residual energy, and then simply throwing out the bits. Anything that keeps the spell intact seems to be deployment. Is that correct? Also, would those same guidelines apply to ANY spell, not just jar spells? Finally, I’m curious about why one would “deploy” a spell jar. I have been under the impression that they work because the spellcaster actually works the jar. It seems that deployment defeats this purpose - the spellcaster would no longer be imparting personal energy into the spell.

Thank you for your help as I learn. I do very much appreciate it.

PS - in your reply, there wasn’t a link to miss cat’s post on disposal that you referenced. I’ll try to go find it with search but, just in case I can’t find it, I’d love it if you could provide that for me. :)

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Unread post by JayDee » Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:18 am

alexinmadison ,

There is no rule book in hoodoo like other forms of magic that we strictly follow, however that does not mean hoodoo is whatever you want it to be, we also have customs, traditions and methods that are used.

The first thing you seem to be confusing is the word disposal v deploying. Disposal is when work is done, you are done, you dispose of it to send the energy outward. The method to do that generally reflects the purpose of the work.Example: Break up work you can dispose of it at a crossroad to spread the energy, you can toss it in running water to send them away, you can bury in a grave yard to symbolically kill the relationship. Love work you can dispose of remains in your front yard to draw a person, a back yard to keep a person, a crossroad to spread the work energy. Deploying is still work being done, such as a break up jar made to cause a couple to break up and the spell calls to bury it under their front porch, or a freezer spell where it is required to put the jar in the freezer to freeze out competition, a sweetener spell where you use some of the honey to cook (deploying the honey in the work). Taking sachet powders and sprinkling at a persons door step. The use of a crossroad as Miss Athena explained above is used also with disposing of bath water since you cleansed yourself you set the work out, to the East to draw, because the sun rises in the East, and West to send away because the sun sets ( goes away) in the west.

I have never heard a person deploy a jar, they keep the jar, they work the jar, when the jar is no longer needed, the work is no longer desired they dispose of the jar the way Miss Athena stated above.

Webster dictionary defines:
Deploy as: bringing into effective action
Disposal as: Throwing away or getting rid of something.
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Unread post by Miss Athena » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:27 pm

Hi alexinmadison,

I am so sorry I neglected to include the link in my post above. Please forgive that error. Here it is:
http://www.luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html

There is a fundamental difference between deployment and disposal. Consider this scenario:

You work a candle spell to bring a new lover to you. You gather the wax remains and scatter them in the crossroads to unleash the energy of that spell out to the universe. You are continuing your spell by doing so, as you want the work to continue and you want Spirit to hear your petition. This is a form of completing a spell as in many cases, they are considered incomplete until they are deployed.

Now let's presume you work the same candle spell to bring in a new lover but before you deploy the wax remains, you decide you want to take a break from dating and that now is not a good time to bring in a new person. So you want to end the spell, not continue it. In this case, you would dispose of the wax remains in the garbage, thus telling Spirit "this work is garbage, I no longer desire this outcome."

See the difference?

As for jar spells, yes they are typically deployed. A break-up or vinegar jar is typically "worked" for a while by shaking and cursing them and burning candles on top of them. I generally work them for 1-3 months or until my candles start burning cleanly, and then deploy them by burying them where the couple or person would walk over it or by putting it in running water like a river, to keep that energy going. I don't like to smash them at a crossroads out of concern than animals may injure themselves on the broken glass or nasty things inside the jar. If the couple were to break up before I deploy the jar, I would still deploy it to keep them broken up for good.

The only exception I like to make for jar spells is honey jars, which are worked long term to keep a relationship sweet for as long as I desire to keep that relationship at all.

I hope this is making sense, and I hope this helps. Good luck.
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Unread post by alexinmadison » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:23 pm

Thank you, Miss Athena. This helps define things much better for me. I do recognize that there’s variation and flexibility in how an individual practitioner might address their work but the general “rules” of how to manage the energy produced/directed by the spell is my biggest concern as I realize that I could, potentially, create an unintended scenario if I mishandled the deployment or disposal of my work. I’m feeling more confident now. 🙂

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Unread post by alexinmadison » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:33 pm

Hi JD and thank you for taking the time to respond to my questions. I see some conflicts in the advice you’re providing versus what I received from Miss Athena - specifically, she suggests that burying is deployment, not disposal as you suggest above. I believe that the issue is word usage and I believe that I’ve figured out what you are trying to convey in regards to the various ways that a spell can/should be worked, either actively or via “deployment”. You may note that Miss Athena did provide a disposal option for a honey jar which, basically, involves dismantling the jar and “washing” the energy from the contents before throwing them away. I appreciate your time and insight as I continue to learn. 👍

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