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Unread post by MarrymeD2015 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:17 am

Thank you j82

I have question though I know you said I should call and apologize which I don’t have an issue with that because I’m always calling him to apologize but this time he called me a B***h because he was caught in a lie and last time he put his hands on m because he was caught in a lie. Should I still be the first to apologize? I just don’t want him to think that his behavior is ok. I tried calling and texting him since the argument but now he won’t talk to me at all. I’m currently doing a spell 7 day candle with return to me and reconciliation oil added to it.

I know I should leave but I think he just needs some help because he always stressed at work and he doesn’t have a lot of emotion support. I believe in him that’s why I’m still trying and we were together long enough that I know he’s just mad right now and the more I reach out the more likely he won’t reply because I think he likes me begging and apologizing all the time.

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Unread post by JayDee » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:59 pm

MarrymeD2015,

I am concerned with him touching you. If he needs emotional support pr anger management issues he should see a professional. I would extend the call to apologize because he is clearly head strong, use wording like I am sorry we are fighting and I do not want to fight or end things. The candle you are doing is great. I also strongly suggest cleansing yourself and home then dressing in the reconcilation and return to me oil when you message him. Issue with breakups is neither party will extend the olive branch ( peace offering) to the other. Open communication is necessary. If you need to say a simple I am sorry we are fighting it is not what I want to do, burn your candle and find a way to sprinkle powder and bath water at his door then do it.
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Unread post by MarrymeD2015 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:12 pm

Thank you again j82... Also he lives in a building I can not get into with being let into so can I put it outside of the apartment building front doors? Or by his car doors?

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Unread post by JayDee » Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:45 pm

MarrymeD2015,

Yes you can put it outside an apartment building door, and if you have powders and oils you can put them on his car door handle to get it on him.
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Unread post by Haegtesse » Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:54 am

My ex and I were together for almost 12 years. He left a year ago, and we've spent the last year dating each other a bit. We've had some movement. It's more like 2 steps forward and 1 step back sort of thing. It seems like he's dragging his feet right now. I'ts almost as if he's being blocked.

Last night I did a honey jar:

I used:
  • Personal Concerns: His hair and my semen.
    Lavender
    Cinnamon
    Ginger
    Holy Basil
    Dragons Blood
    2 lodestones
    2 Balm of Gilead
    Rose Buds & Petals
    Damiana
    Honey
I wrote his full name in cursive 4x, then crossed it with my full name in cursive 4x. I circled the crosed names with my petition, which I wrote in cursive all the way around without lifting up my pencil. I put the 2 lodestones on the paper, his hair, 2 balm of gilead buds, a pinch of the herb mixture. Then I masturbated while thinking of him, and put my semen on the paper, and a bit in the jar. I folded the items up in the paper. I folded it towards me, turned it clockwise, folded it towards me, etc. The whole time, reciting what I wanted.

I had already placed some of the herb mix, honey, and some semen in the jar. I placed the folded up petition in the jar, and added more honey and herbs. Still reciting what I wanted. The feelings and energy continued to build. When the jar was full I held the jar, stared at it and continued to recite what I wanted. When the energy built up to a peak, I blew into the jar and around it. I then capped it tightly. I had a red candle and anointed it with my saliva as I didn't have any oil. I rubbed the candle with my saliva as I prayed what I wanted. I lit the candle, placing it on top of the jar and prayed.

I left the candle burning and went to bed. I had a dream that my ex and I were living together, and seemed like we were back together. I don't really remember any details of the dream. I remember waking up feeling confident that he was already on his way back.

Any advice on whether I did this right,or what I can do to back up my work? I was thinking of making a mojo bag as well.

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Unread post by JayDee » Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:24 pm

Haegtesse,

Sounds like you are a gay male working with another gay male? I will list a few items that LM sells that would benefit you in the future to order. Honey jars are prayed over regularly with intent and focus on the desired outcome as you work the jar. Also its important to pray over each item and what it is being used in the jar. I dont leave candles burning when I go to bed unless its glass incased or it is secure, if it was secure great! If you do not have an oil on hand at the time, you can dress the candle with your cum, and olive oil. I would get an oil because it is conditioned to the situation and will help the cause. Take the candle carve it around with your petition like John Does marry me all around the candle. Then dress it with cum/oil as you pray over it. Then place it on the jar, light it and pray over it as your also read Pslams 23 and 32 which go well together for reconciliation work. You may want to read the Songs of Solomon one chapter a night as each candle burns to increase and draw the love, After I read a passage I tend to reinforce my intention by pray ing and stating my petition.

The dream would seem to be a sign of the work, keep watching for signs and movement till manifestation.

Lavender love spell kit used by homosexuals: http://www.luckymojo.com/spell-lavender-love.html
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Q oil another homosexual product: http://www.luckymojo.com/q.html
Queen Elizabeth root to cause men to love you: http://www.herbmagic.com/queen-elizabeth-powder.html
The whole root used in mojos: http://www.herbmagic.com/queen-elizabet ... small.html
High John root, used for luck but also used in gay male work to represent the top and the queen elizabeth the bottom, used in a mojo : http://www.herbmagic.com/john-the-conqu ... small.html
Lodestone pair, let LM know if you need two male stones they will match them, great size for a mojo: http://www.herbmagic.com/lodestone-small-pair.html
Little way down the page has groom groom candle: http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatcandles.html#figural
LM book on reconciliation spells: http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodooreturnan ... pells.html
LM book on honey jars and sugar spells: http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodoohoneyandsugarspells.html
LM book about making mojos a great book by Cat: THE ART OF MAKING MOJOS
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LM book on how to create name papers and petitions: http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatbooks.html
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Unread post by Haegtesse » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:12 pm

Thanks for all the info @JayDee.

I was praying my petition the whole time I assembled the jar. I'll add the Psalms, and use 2 pink birthday candles, to represent each of us, and I'll dress them as you've suggested. I'll do this every day.

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Unread post by JayDee » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:03 pm

Haegtesse,

It is traditional to work a jar Mon-Wed-Fri, but you can work it each day. It is a combination spell of 1. a container spell ( the honey jar ) and 2. a candle spell. They work well together. Pray over the jar daily while you rock it gently or hold it and pray over it for the cause. You can burn a taper pink candle on top one with your petition covered around it, a tea light, or yes a birthday candle. Id suggest eventually moving to taper candles, they burn about 2 hours and allow you to work them and can give signs to the work based on the wax melting.
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Unread post by MarrymeD2015 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:40 pm

Hi guys... quick question what can I use during the process of my reconciliation spell to get my ex to put aside his pride? And or to get him to stop being so strong willed when it comes to contacting me? I want him to respond to my efforts or contact me his self but his is very stubborn and has a LOT of pride.

I also saw someone said they used their menstrual blood on a candle and he returned in 3 days.

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Unread post by JayDee » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:08 pm

MarrymeD2015,

Many spells exist to dominate a man and make him bend to your will, essence of bend over. Now the issue with a prideful man is this is his nature. I see this all the time with reconciliation work both parties are filled with pride and wont move even though both want it. Try and not message too much it will make you look desperate and trying too hard. Personally I would use reconcilation products along with sugar on a strong personality to sweeten him to it, A skull candle telling him to lower his pride and come to you and love you again. Love me, return to me, stay with me, reconciliation. I dont use dominate items on strong will people I find they fight it more, I use the opposite sweet. This is my method, many workers have different styles.

Come to me: http://www.luckymojo.com/cometome.html
Return to me: http://www.luckymojo.com/returntome.html
Stay with me: http://www.luckymojo.com/staywithme.html
Reconciliation: http://www.luckymojo.com/reconciliation.html
Honey Jar: http://www.luckymojo.com/honey-jar-spel ... ation.html
LM reconciliation book: http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodooreturnan ... pells.html
Honey jar, sugar jars book: http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodoohoneyandsugarspells.html

To influence him try using a skull candle dressed with influence oil and love or reconciliation oil, add deers tongue to the candles mouth to talk ( its an herb), balm of gilead buds. Pray over it and speak to it as him and how he thinks of you.

Influence oil: http://www.luckymojo.com/influence.html
Deer's tongue herb: http://www.herbmagic.com/deers-tongue.html
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Unread post by MarrymeD2015 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:16 pm

Thanks JayDee.. My boyfriend asked me to mail a belt and some tee shirts he left at my house. I wasn’t going to but I was thinking it maybe a great way to get some of my return to me and reconciliation oils and powders on to him. What do you think?

Side note his ex works in the same office and they’ve been over for years I’m not concerned about about her other wise but would him wearing the oils on his items affect there relationship? I want him to come back to me not another ex.

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Unread post by Angelzwing03 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:18 pm

Hello All,

I may be posting this question in the wrong section..but long story short, I live with a guy who I have had an on and off again, love/hate relationship for the last 6 years. We were just getting to the point of permanence when he started a new job and met a much older woman. I had a rootworker perform a binding and repellent on him, but only the binding worked. He started changing, spending nights away from home, texting her, etc. I have confronted her about their relationship, and of course she denies it. But he still comes home to me and “plays house”. My question is: what spell kit(s) or jar spells should I do to 1. Get rid of her permanently & 2. Get his fidelity and permanence (such as a proposal)? I’d like to order what I need ASAP.

Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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Unread post by JayDee » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:31 am

Angelzwing,

You would be interested in doing a break up kit on them and a honey jar to sweeten him to you. You can also hotfoot her to send her away. Many workers use figure candles for this work. Then I would make a nation sack and tie his nature. This will keep him tied to you.

Break up: http://www.luckymojo.com/spell-break-up.html
Honey jar: http://www.luckymojo.com/honey-jar-spel ... ation.html
Hotfoot: http://www.luckymojo.com/powder-hot-foot.html
Break up book: DESTROYING RELATIONSHIPS
by Miss Aida
Reconciliation spell book: http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodooreturnan ... pells.html
Honey jar book: http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodoohoneyandsugarspells.html
Nation Sack: http://www.luckymojo.com/nationsack.html
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Unread post by Angelzwing03 » Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:08 am

Thank you so much! I will place my order right away!

Many Blessings!

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Unread post by dazexwolf » Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:36 pm

Hello Ladies,

Really need some help.

Soooo my ex and I sleep like across the hallway.

He is dating a girl rn, but before that he was involved with me. I was hurt because he was seeing her on the side while telling me he wasn’t seeing anyone. Anyways he is really confused with what he wants and I’m a dummy for telling him if he’s talking to other girls then to not talk to me.
But what I want is that he is only involved with me. Because for months we would sleep in his room, go out like a couple & be all lovey dovey.

Now I have the advantage that he lives right next to my room but how can I use these oils to help me get him to come to me? And follow me around. I’ve realized that my hurt feelings aren’t going to help my goal. Which is a relationship with him. But first I need his attention and his time. And later for him to just forget about her completely because she knew we were still involved and she decided to take him away from me. We were together for almost 3 yrs now and our relationship ended because someone did a break up spell on us. But for now I just need him to follow me around like a dog as it is expressed this oil does, obsess over me and just have him with me all the time when I’m not working.

He still shows interest in me but I just need a little push to get him where I want him.

Time is running out tho he says he’s going to move out but hasn’t told me when. But meanwhile we live right next door and we share a restroom I feel like I have more of an advantage.

I’m full of faith & ive decided to push aside my hurt feelings I realized it doesn’t help cuz I end up pushing him away to her more.

Can someone please guide me to accomplish my goal?

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Unread post by JayDee » Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:26 am

dazexwold,

You are correct on pushing past the feelings and doing what needs to be done to get the person back. Many people sabotage their own work by doing just that. If you believe a spell was put on you, you can do an uncrossing spell and bath to remove it, and a reversing on them. While you are living with him, steal hair, personal items anything you can of his that is a concern to use him. You will want to do a honey jar to sweeten him to you and a break up to end them. Reconciliation products also are great for this work with come to me oil. You can sprinkle powders on his stuff, oils on things he will touch, put some period blood in a drink of his or food to make him crazy for you. Use follow me boy on candles and catnip bath on yourself use some of the water to cook for him. If him and the girl sleep in the same bed wash his bedding and rinse it with break up bath water so they will sleep in break up. There is a whole thread on vinegar jars and lemons to break a couple up. End of the day you need to : 1. Break them up 2. draw him back to you. Work both at the same time. You can read Psalms 23 and 32 while you do reconciliation work and read Songs of Solomon one chapter a day over the work to draw him to you.

Honey jar to sweeten him: http://www.luckymojo.com/candle-reconciliation.html
Come to Me oil, mixes well with Follow Me Boy oil: http://www.luckymojo.com/cometome.html
Follow Me Boy oil, mixes great with Come To Me oil: http://www.luckymojo.com/followmeboy.html
A book on reconciliation spells: http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodooreturnan ... pells.html
Break up kit to end them: http://www.luckymojo.com/spell-break-up.html
Great book on breaking people up: Destroying Relationships by Miss Aida
Link to lemon spell to break up: lemon-and-lime-break-up-spells-question ... ilit=lemon
Vinegar jar link: general-vinegar-jar-questions-and-answe ... it=vinegar
Uncrossing products to take the spell off of you: http://www.luckymojo.com/uncrossing.html
Reversing to send it back: http://www.luckymojo.com/reversing.html
LM sets the candles on the church altar if you wish for them to do that and send a candle report: http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatcandles.html#vigil
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Unread post by dazexwolf » Sun Sep 02, 2018 3:50 pm

Thank you so much Jaydee for the reply🌙

I’ve taken my notes and I can’t wait to start. But I have so questions..

What did you mean about; personal items that is a concern to use him? Like things he’s going to use?

Would that be for the honey jar or use the oils & powders on his belongings ?

I don’t doubt the work, but I’m worried if I use the oils like on his door knob from his room or the restroom we share etc, like will it make him obsess over me or her? I guess I’m confused on how it will work, not that I think it won’t work.

I like being precise with my work so I don’t mess up 😌

I ordered the Come To Me and Follow Me Boy oil from Lucky Mojo, recommended me to use any first?

Can I mix my juices or blood with the oils?

Reconciliation products, would they be used for the honey jar or his belongings?

Also I’ve fed him my blood before and I did see him question me a lot where I’m going, who I’m going with, checking my phone asking to hang out.. but not enough make him stay and not be with other girls. I was told if there was work done on us that no matter what I do it won’t be as potent, also I don’t know if the girl he’s dating now is feeding him her menses. If so how can I undo her work?

He is the father of my child & she’s putting lots of things in his head, we had gotten into a nasty argument & she used that for her advantage. I love this man, and my love is very patient but persistent. I won’t give up until I’ve done all that I can in the mean time momma is doing her job 🌙

For the reversal, I don’t know who did it, I got my tarot cards read twice & it said the same thing that someone split us up and put us against each other. I believe if they were able to split us up then I can undo their work & get him back.

So well the uncrossing spell work to remove that for both him and I? Or just me? I would like to cleanse him but I know he won’t let himself cuz he would get weirded out.

How can I cleanse him w/o him knowing.?

And to break him up with the girl he’s seeing atm,

she doesn’t come over so they don’t sleep in his bed so I won’t be able to use the breakup bath water in his bed. Is there anything else I can do ? Plus if he were to invite me to sleep with him I don’t want it to back fire on me haha gotta watch my steps further ahead.

Which would be stronger/faster ? The lemon spell or vinegar jar? Can I do both or is that too much ?

I heard it back fires onto the person who does it, or that they get bad karma. But that you can protect yourself, I don’t know how to protect myself from that type of work, is there a rootworker that can do that for me? Since they know how to protect themselves.

For the honey jar or candles, I really would want to do it in my room but we share mutual responsibility to a cat we love and care for so he has access in my room and he does snoop around and afraid he will see my work. Would the church be able to do my work or what can they do to help?
I’ve done the honey jar before but after being done I would hide it and remove the candle, then when I work on it again let it stay lit for the night & in the morning put it away.

Is that ok or does that interfere ? I’m sorry I’m all over the place I wish I had a bigger screen to type. Also I’ve been a little emotional because he left with her for this memorial weekend. I know he will be back by Monday but it really hurts to think of how they are together rn.

Thankyou so much for your patience, I’ll keep doing research, I’m patient but I would love to start working on something soon, but I’m afraid of breaking them up & it back firing on me. I would really like to protect myself for this work & my loved ones. I’ll stay positive

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Unread post by JayDee » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:48 pm

1. I meant to get a personal item which serves as a personal concern to use in the work on him such as: Hair, nails, blood, semen, dirty clothing ( dont wash it).

2. You always want a personal connection to the person its what links them to the work. If you do not have anything use their name and photo. Yes I meant to use this in the honey jar but you can use a personal concern in any working.

3. Reconciliation products have a variety of items, including incense, oils, bath crystals, spell kits etc. You can use the oil on things he touches, the powder on things he will touch, the bath crystals take a bath with them pray for him to reconcile with you and add some to the rinse cycle of his clothing ( wash it for him being a friend and helping out lol). Can add reconciliation oil to his shampoo or body wash.. many many ways to use it. Dress candles and pray. Dress tea lights around the apartment when he is around and have them burn.

4. Who did you get a reading from, was it an AIRR reader or another reputable reader? Sometimes people tell you things to sell you things, like a gypsy saying you have a curse and need a $50 candle to take it off (this actually happened to my friend Dave in France). But uncrossing would take it off.

5. You can dress the kid lightly with powders or oils praying to return him to you, the kid is not part of the work, he is rather carrying it to him when he holds and plays with the child.

6. Uncrossing would work to take it off. You can also but a bottle of the oil, mix it with his body wash and everyday when he showers he is uncrossing himself from this working. You can also take one of those personal concerns we discussed in (1) and make a doll baby of him and use that to cleanse him from any break up spell on you two. http://www.luckymojo.com/uncrossing.html

7. It wont backfire it hits the target or it does not hit at all. But no I would not want to lie in breakup bath either lol. Do you know where she lives? you can pour the water their, you can take the break up powder mix it with local dirt and sprinkle outside her door, in her pathway she walks, outside her car. You can also do a break up jar or vinegar to break them up.

8. Both are strong and fast. that question depends on your ability level, concentration, prayer, Gods will, authentic items. People always ask whats more powerful, or strongest, I dont know the one that gets the job done lol.

9. Karma is not a hoodoo idea and does not apply. The work is only done if it is justified by God and allowed by God, he is the ultimate decider of fate. I would think God would support breaking up this girl who took your guy and reunite him with you and his child.

9. You can hire a worker from AIRR: http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/wi ... ootworkers
You can also wear protection oil such as Fiery wall everyday on your body. http://www.luckymojo.com/fierywall.html

10. If you cant do the work the Church can light candles for you and an AIRR member can make a honey jar for you. AIRR link is above. You can also hide a honey jar make a tiny one out of a baby meal jar and hide in your purse when you leave the house. http://www.missionaryindependent.org/ca ... vices.html

11. Does hiding the jar interfere? No many people hide their work this is normal.
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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:58 pm

Hey, azexwolf --

I think a number of the men in this forum -- JD, nagasiva, Rev Ernest, Dr Johannes, ConjureMan Ali, Deacon Millett, Joseph Magnuson, Carolina Dean, and Rev James among them -- will be surprised to be addressed as "ladies." We are a pretty mixed bunch of genders here!

Anyway, i moved your posts and JD's incredibly detailed response (YAY, JD!) from the "Follow Me Boy Oil" thread to the "Spells for Ex-Lover Ex-Spouse to Return Reconcile Reunite" thread, because that is what it is actually about.

This is one of the longer and more active threads in the Forum, with 95 pages and 5,645 posts! I recommend that you read from page one all the way down to here -- it's practically a book's worth of information for free.

Then, when you get ready to work on breaking up your ex from his current partner, please post about THAT topic in one of the threads that best suits your interests in the "Break Up and Hot Foot" section of the forum, which is a pile of threads situated here:

ask-us-for-conjure-help-with-break-ups- ... e-f45.html

Good luck to you in all your work.
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Unread post by virgo_girl » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:42 am

Hi everyone I'm new to all of these spiritual things and to this forum so please forgive me if I sound completely ridiculous or if I've placed this in the wrong board.

I guess i'll explain my situation

I've been in a committed relationship with my college sweetheart for about 4 years. We used to be basically attached at the hip over this period and it caused us to not really have as much self-development as we would've wanted. Our relationship wasn't toxic but we could've benefited from some space at that time.

We recently decided to end our romantic relationship to take time for ourselves but we both agreed that we are still very much in love and that we want a relationship together in the future and to ultimately be together. However, over time I've begun to feel that maybe we could space out our time while also maintaining our love and intimacy/affection towards one another. He disagrees and thinks it too much of a risk and that if we were anything more than just friends we'll end up falling back to where we were. As a result he even told me that he's been blocking off his romantic feelings for me just because he's afraid of that. Basically we want the same end goal but we have different views on how we should get there. I'm not too upset about us maintaining just a friendship but at the same time I still feel strongly for him and I want us to still be affection and in love just without the stress of everything.

My friend practices hoodoo and a week ago she gave me a spiritual bath to take and told me to also pray and petition to Oshun. Yesterday she also preformed a Blockbuster spell as well. In the meantime I also have a come to me candle that she told me to not light until the Blockbuster is complete and I was given a Follow me oil to wear around my ex.

I'm here because I'm wondering is there anything else that I should do in the meantime or is there nothing else to do but wait? Will the oil still be effective even though the Blockbuster isn't done yet? How long do these things typically take?

I love him a lot and I'm desperate for this to work, which I guess is why I'm so impatient haha.

Once again, I'm sorry for the long post and if this is in the wrong board. I'm also open to any suggestions. This has been a tough time for me and I'm trying to stay positive but its hard

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Unread post by RevJames » Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:38 am

Mysticn00b -

Welcome! You don't sound ridiculous, we all start somewhere! To learn more though, I encourage you to read Hoodoo In Theory and Practice (click every link, there is a lot of info!) - http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodoo.html - and to go back and read through the other 93 pages of this topic to learn more about reconciliation workings, over 5,600 posts!

First I want to address your username, being a n00b, aka "newbie", is usually used in a derogatory way. Even here, you are using it to show all of us how "new" and "inexperienced" you are. You may want to portray something a little different if you plan to stick around. Just a thought. ;)

Now about your situation. You say you both agreed to end the romantic relationship and remain friends so you two can grow and learn to be yourselves and who you are instead of constantly being together (smothered). Then you decided you wanted intimacy and romance, but still stay distant from one another, friends with benefits as it were. You also say your not upset about maintaining just the friendship but you still want the relationships without the "stress of everything". I have to say I'm a bit confused as to exactly what you want.

My advice? Talk to him. You two are still friends. You need to figure out together what the game plan is for the future of your relationship.

As for what your friend has done and suggested, I can't speak on Oshun, she is an orisha from Santeria and/or Ifa/Lucumi and I am not an authority on that subject. Nor is Santeria, Lucumi or other ATR really in the scope of this forum.

I suggest you read this page for more information - http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodoohistory.html

Regarding the Blockbuster spell, I'm going to be honest I'm not really sure what barrier you were trying to break down other than the self built wall you two built when you decided to take a break from one another for self-development. Also, to me this seems a bit forceful - speaking of forceful, Follow Me Boy is a commanding/controlling/dominating love product, and if anything, as you two agreed, you two need space. Willingly entering a "break" and then turning around and trying to force the situation back to the way it was before, seems a bit counter productive.

Products/Workings I think would be more beneficial to your situation include:
Reconciliation - http://www.luckymojo.com/reconciliation.html
Chuparrosa - http://www.luckymojo.com/chuparrosa.html
Adam and Eve - http://www.luckymojo.com/adamandeve.html
Love Me - http://www.luckymojo.com/loveme.html
Dixie John - http://www.luckymojo.com/dixiejohn.html
Dixie Love - http://www.luckymojo.com/dixielove.html

If you feel he's starting to move away from you, Attraction - http://www.luckymojo.com/attraction.html or Magnet - http://www.luckymojo.com/magnet.html

If you still want to try to introduce intimacy into your friendship, Bewitching - http://www.luckymojo.com/bewitching.html or Look Me Over - Look Me Over - http://www.luckymojo.com/lookmeover.html

Once you two are together again you may look into Stay With Me - http://www.luckymojo.com/staywithme.html

You ask "how long do these things typically take?", well that depends on many factors. You can read about that here - HOW LONG SHALL I WAIT FOR REAL MAGICK SPELLS TO WORK? -http://www.luckymojo.com/spells/real.html#1

Love is a roller-coaster. There will be ups, there will be downs. In a relationship one usually relies on the other to help pick them up when they are down, but how can you do this if you've always been dependent on the/another person? Being together awhile, and since high school, I think you two made a very mature and wise decision to improve yourselves independently and do some introspection, if you both are truly doing it for the benefit of the relationship in the future.

You may take all of this with a grain of salt, as I could be wrong but all in all, I would suggest you get a reading by a qualified professional worker. Someone you can explain the situation to in detail, get a reading from to see what would be the best action to take, and to either help you do your own workings, or do a working on your behalf. - http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/

Best of luck and I hope you two work it out!
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Unread post by JayDee » Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:54 am

mysticicn00b,

Hoodoo is African American conjure and predominatly the practitioners of this form of folk magic are Christians. Your friend's mention of Oshun is something relating to Santeria, which is an African Diasporic religion.

To read more about hoodoo as practiced by members of various faiths, see this web page, which is part of catherine yronwode's free online book, "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice":

Hoodoo and Religion:
http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodooandreligion.html

As for the ex, seems to me interesting he only wants to be friends to make this result of falling back in love with one another? Hm im sorry thats not how love works. I strongly feel you need to get a reading to make sure he is not feeding you a line of BS and breaking off with you. AIRR members which we recommend on LM website can give a reading and tell exactly what is going on with him and you.

Here is how you contact the members:
http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/wi ... ootworkers

I dont know how long it will take, one issue is we do not know the materials used by your friend, are they authentic, are they lucky mojo products? Without knowing its a shot in the dark. Generally how long does this stuff take depends on how gifted the person is, the petition, prayer, authentic materials and Gods will to let it happen.

I would 1. Get a reading from an AIRR member , 2. While you do this make a honey jar to sweeten him to you, 3. Do a freezer jar to freeze out any competition or other people he may be talking with. 4. Start collecting personal concerns of his: hair, nails, semen, photos, handwritings, dirty clothing. Those will all be used in work to get him back around.

Here are some links to hep you learn more about what Hoodoo is and is not, as well as herbs, oils and such.
About hoodoo: http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodoohistory.html
About personal concerns: http://www.luckymojo.com/bodyfluids.html
Free spells from LM including this topic: http://www.luckymojo.com/spells.html
Freezer spells:http://www.luckymojo.com/freezer.html
Reconciliation products: http://www.luckymojo.com/reconciliation.html
You mentioned "follow me oil", LM sells Follow me boy or girl oil, here is a link to the boy: http://www.luckymojo.com/followmeboy.html
A great book on reconciliation work: http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodooreturnan ... pells.html
Reconciliation honey jar: http://www.luckymojo.com/honey-jar-spel ... ation.html
Balm of GIlead Buds to bring a lover back: http://www.herbmagic.com/balm-of-gilead.html
Bring back a lover: http://www.herbmagic.com/damiana.html

This is just some ideas to get you started with your work, but I really strongly suggest a reading before you spend a lot of money, the reading can tell you whats going on, and what specific work to do.
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Unread post by virgo_girl » Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:43 am

JayDee and RevJames

Thank you both for your responses and for sharing those resources with me. First I'd like to add a bit more clarification to my situation. A lot of the blockage we had mostly came from how we went about addressing the issue of us needing a bit of space. Neither of us communicated clearly or really sat down and said what our intentions were so things were muddy and it ended up causing us to have a lot of arguments which led to us both being distant and reserved from one another. Thats when I told my friend about it and when she gave me the bath as well at the candle (I don't know if its LM or not). Since then our communication has gotten a lot better.

Admittedly, neither of us want to be in a set boyfriend/girlfriend relationship at this time but whenever we talk about it we both agree that we do love one another and want to be together in the future and to be married. Just not right now. That idea has always been a common theme in our relationship though--We used to joke a lot that we wished that we'd met when we were older because we know that things would be a lot smoother haha. I think a lot of that stems from us being so smothered for the last few years as well as the fact that this is our senior year of college and we have certain major decisions to make, this is also his first real relationship. I also think that since we have been together since our freshman year of college we didn't really do a lot of the personal self growth that happens during this time. Instead, our personalities kind of just morphed into one if that makes sense.

As of right now we have been talking consistently and we have been spending time together. It hasn't been as much as it was during our romantic relationship but its still good.

Rev James, I definitely agree with you that being aggressive is counterproductive. I didn't know that follow me was a more controlling product which is my fault for not looking into it deeper. That isn't what I want at all. I got the oil on Saturday so I've only worn it around him twice. I don't want to domineering at all though. I genuinely just love him and what I truly want is something that will keep our feelings of love towards one another present even though we aren't in a set relationship. I'm worried that in just our friendship we willl become distant from one another and eventually fall out of love. Which I know that is a risk regardless but I'd like to do whatever possible to give us the best shot.

I'm sorry that my first post was perhaps not as informative as needed I was trying to summarize and keep it from being too long but I see now it could've benefitted from more detail.

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:11 pm

Hi, virgo_girl --

I am doing admin work today, not replying to conjure questions, but yes, there is a way to change your user-name.

Go into your profile and revise the user name field. That's it ... i thnk!

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Unread post by virgo_girl » Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:22 pm

Thank you so much! I changed it.

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Unread post by JayDee » Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:27 pm

Virgo_girl,

To me it sounds like a honey jar is the work you want to use. You can use pink instead of red candles to keep the love between you nd him always to be sweet to you. Deers Tongue (its an herb) is used in love work to keep communicating, order that herb to keep communication open between you.

One issue I feel you will face in your work is the fact that you do not know what you want. You love him, want to be with him, don't want to be with him, want to be friends with him.

That is why I suggest a honey jar dressed with love me oil to keep him always loving you, if that turns to a friendship, marriage or what not.

Here is a link to the jar you would want: http://www.luckymojo.com/honey-jar-spel ... ve-me.html
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Unread post by virgo_girl » Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:46 pm

Jaydee,

Thank you for your help. I'm sure of what I want; I do love him and want to be with him. But right now I know that a relationship is not good for either of us given our current situation at this moment in time. We are currently friends who love each other deeply but want to wait until later to resume our romantic relationship. I want to just mantain the love that we have and keep it strong until we reach the point where we can have the relationship.

I saw earlier on another board that for the jar you need to have their hair for it to be effective. What would I do if I'm unable to get his hair would another thing of his work?

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Unread post by RevJames » Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:54 pm

Virgo_girl

Like the new name, and it helps people answer you with insight who are knowledgeable in astrology! Much better choice!

There are other personal concerns you can use. However I think that hair, particularly from their head, is pretty potent for doing works that "keep you on his mind" as it were. If you two are communicating and talking it shouldn't be very hard to get this. Either in the vehicle seats when you go out to eat or something, or even if your hanging out you can say "Oh there's a bug!" *snatch a hair* "Got it!" and there you are!

Read more about personal concerns and honey jars here - http://www.luckymojo.com/honeyjar.html# ... rnquestion
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Unread post by virgo_girl » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:07 pm

Rev James,

Thank you so much again for all of your insight! I should be seeing him soon so I'll try my hardest to get one. His hair is loced which is the only reason why I think getting a hair may be a bit tricky.

One more question--

Should I wait until my friend is done with the Blockbuster candle or does it not matter? She told me it would burn for 7 days.

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Unread post by JayDee » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:49 pm

virgo_girl,

Try and get any personal concern you can, collect as many as you can then decide what to save and what to toss later. Biggest issue people have is no concern. I tell my friends collect you never know when you need it. A razor blade has hair in it, a brush, a grooming kit, towel, shower, bed, etc.

You can start a block buster suppose to bust open through the issues clearing a path. It is common for them to burn 7 days.

LM block buster candle and description: http://www.luckymojo.com/candle-block-buster.html
Personal concerns, what they are etc: http://www.luckymojo.com/bodyfluids.html
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Unread post by WaGaBa » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:34 am

Hi Everyone,

So I’m a bit new to the hoodoo maybe 4 to 6 months now. I have a lot of the lucky mojo books and I’ve been doing work on my own with the help of the books. I decided to join the forum for a bit of help because I’m a little confused and I’ve already had a reading about my situation.

This is my situation my boyfriend and I broke up a few weeks back. I did some reconciliation work and then had a reading done by 3 awesome readers (why 3? Because I like the number 3 and I like more then one readers opinion at a time) anyway all 3 told me the same thing (that me and my boyfriend would get back together) so here’s where my confusion comes in at. He wouldn’t talk to me for a couple of weeks and now we are at least texting (which is movement) I’ve been doing my honey jars 4 times a week and until last Thursday he was completely ignoring me but since last Thursday we’ve seen each other 3 times (in a group setting only) I was burning a skull candle in addition to my honey jar and the glass plate that the skull candle was on broke and caught on fire (however I think that was just users era because the candle wax was almost completely melted and it was just my petition from inside of the skull burning on the plate but I didn’t want to put it out so I let it burn. That same day I saw him so I lite two white candles on my honey jars with reconciliation, return to me and follow me boy oil. Everything was fine when we saw each other but later that day I sent him a text and he took like 3 hours to respond which isn’t like him and his response was short. However let me just state that I am happy he even responded given the fact that he ignored me for weeks.

My question is did I do something wrong with my spell or am I just looking to much into a short interaction? And if I am looking to much into it. What should my next spell be to bring him back? More then just texting? I’m waiting for my return to me candle from LM so I need to do something else in the meantime.


Note: He’s stubborn and I’ve read on here that I shouldn’t use anything forceful like commanding oils, just sweetener. Is that true?

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Unread post by Sister Jean » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:46 am

Hello WaGaBa,

Welcome to the Lucky Mojo forum. We're happy to have you here! It doesn't sound like you did anything wrong in your work except burning a skull candle on a flimsy plate that broke under the heat. I would just repeat that skull candle spell if you are worried about it. I think you need to just give your work more time, keep at it and keep the faith. You could also do some spells specifically to enhance communication, which you can find here:

spells-for-more-communication-between-l ... t4483.html

If he is very stubborn, yes, I would take it easy on any really forceful oils. Just keep things sweet if that's what you feel is right.

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Unread post by WaGaBa » Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:19 pm

Thank you so much Sister Jean!

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Unread post by Maddyfan2020 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:13 am

Not sure if I’m under the right thing. I’ve started a reconcile spell. I’ve got everything as I bought a kit from Lucky Mojo. My question is I burned the 4” pink candle I did use oil on the candle ect. It burned in like 15 minutes. That’s the fastest I’ve ever had a candle burn. Is that a good sign, or a bad sign?

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Unread post by JayDee » Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:19 am

Maddyfan2020 ,

That is a fast burn for a candle. Normally when a candle burns really fast it means that the work will happen but may not be long lasting, will probably have to repeat or continue to work on the person to keep them.

Here is a helpful link: http://www.luckymojo.com/candlemagicdivination.html
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Unread post by Maddyfan2020 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:46 am

Ok I think I figured out what happened there was a lot of air hitting it from the air conditioning. I just tried to repeat it. It’s burning much slower in the new location, & the flame, & everything seem to be burning much nicer. Thank you for the link I was trying to find something online, & couldn’t find anything.

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Unread post by Maddyfan2020 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:32 pm

The second time took an hour in a half so it relaxed me more I was like crap if it burns fast I’m not gonna get the outcome I’m working toward. I don’t want a temporary fix I’m aiming for a longer lasting working.

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Unread post by JayDee » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:43 pm

Maddyfan2020,

Add stay with me oil to the candle to keep him their longer as well.
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Unread post by Rose_joy » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:19 am

Is it possible to have reconciliation without direct communication?

How to clear misunderstanding with someone who is stubborn. Sex happened 1 month ago...and last communication 25th Aug, and last time I saw the person was on 5th Nov

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Unread post by Sister Jean » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:54 am

Hello Rose_joy,

Welcome to the Lucky Mojo forum! We're happy to have you here :)

As miss cat says on the following page about Reconciliation products, she recommends doing some Return to Me work before trying Reconciliation work on someone who isn't part of your life anymore. I'd recommend reading this page carefully:

http://www.luckymojo.com/reconciliation.html

You can read about Return to Me work here:

http://www.luckymojo.com/returntome.html

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Unread post by Rose_joy » Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:44 am

Thank you Sister Jean,

1) I am looking for someone who can help me with the work. Anyone you can recommend who can take tough cases?

I feel mine is tough as there has been a lot of misunderstand and negativity. He is paranoid as he smokes weed. I will see him on 5th Nov next. He lives locally, but we don't cross paths.

I am in dilemma on how to start...

2) I have a sugar glass jar I started with pictures facing each other, with hair wrapped in the picture, some herbs - rose petals, lavender, catnip, 2 buds balm of giled, coffee, cinnamon powder, vanilla pods 2, cardamon, coriander seeds, dill, basil, jasmine buds and rose quarts stone with petition paper with his name 3 time and my crossing his 3 times and in circle written "love me" without lifting pen.

Which Forum thread deals with sugar jars?

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Unread post by Sister Jean » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:10 am

Hello Rose_joy,

We don't recommend specific workers here, but If you go to http://www.readersandrootworkers.org, you can read through all the workers profiles and see what kind of work they specialize in and go from there. You can also contact them and ask questions.

Here is the forum about sweetening jars:

http://www.luckymojo.com/honeyjar.html

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Unread post by WaGaBa » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:43 pm

Greetings again!

So here’s an update, everything is going pretty well my ex and I are texting more but no sex yet and no phone conversations. Which is fine for now but I take that as a sign he’s coming around but not quite back yet. I’ve made advances via text but he doesn’t seem to bite the way he use too. I know it’s because his graud is still up with us.

So question is I’m going to see him in the next few day and I want him to at least kiss me or try. How can I accomplish this? It has to be him who try’s and not me because of how stubborn he is. If I try he may shut down and back away again.

I have a honey jar that I pretty much light 4 to 5 times a week. I’m going to dress it with some come to me and kiss me now oil. It I’ve been using reconciliation, love me and return to me. And I’ve been loading the candles with roses petals and balm of gil.

On Friday I’m thinking of lighting pink 7 day Candle with kiss me now, come to me, reconciliation and return to me oils. Along with balm of Gil, deer tongue, lavender, five finger grass, roses petals from a rose he once gave me, cinnamon.. Would you guys recommend anything else?

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Unread post by JayDee » Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:24 pm

WaGaBa ,

The work on Friday sounds great. When you meet him wear the oils after you prayed over them the petition you want. Also bath in catnip and air dry that makes guys crazy for a gal.
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Unread post by WaGaBa » Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:43 pm

Thank you JayDee! When you say the petition I want? Do you mean write out a petition or hold the oils and say what I want them to do?

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Unread post by Luckybb886 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:07 am

I want to know how to make my boyfriend not be indifferent to me. We are all Pisces and have been dating for one year and five months. He does not reply text, don't meet with me, and starts with separation. :cry: :cry: :cry:

I hope he can be active, passionate, caring and romantic.

I have his cigarette butt. What kind of spells can I use with that?
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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:18 pm

Luckybb886 --

I know of some ways to increase bonding, and, no offense, but i certainly would not an ugly, stinky, addictive, and unhealthful cigarette butt to try to do so. UGH!.

Start with a photo of him and a photo of you. If you have a photo of the two of you together, so much the better.

Using honey as a kind of "glue," dab a little on your lips, and a little on his. Stick the two papers together or fold the single photo together. place the paper(s) in a packet of paper on which you have written your wish for more communication and closeness. Add some dried red rose petals into the packet before sealing it. Pray your desire and petition over the packet and place the packet between the box springs and mattress of your bed. Dress your phone lightly with Chuparrosa Oil for honesty and affection in communication. You may also light a small 4" pink candle dressed with Chuparrosa Oil at the same time, and drip a circular ring or heart-shaped outline of honey or sugar draw around the base of the candle-holder as it sits on a tray or plate. Text or call him while the candle is burning.

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Unread post by Sister Jean » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:20 am

Hello WaGaBa,

I'm not JayDee, but just to chime in on your most recent question, you can say your petition as you are bathing yourself and as you're applying the oils. Just pray out loud.

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Unread post by Luckybb886 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:42 am

Catherine,

I will try this spell, thank you for your suggestion.

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Unread post by MoonGoddessKat » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:52 pm

HI everyone! I've been a reader on these forums for some time now but this is my first time posting. I'm not entirely sure if this is the correct place to be posting this, if there is a better thread I will gladly repost there, as I am looking for help and advice. And I apologize in advance for the story I am about to write!! :oops: I just wanted to include as much information on the situation as I could, sorry if I repeat myself.

Now, this man :roll: I have never felt so strongly for anyone in my entire life. I find him very attractive, sure, but he’s by no means the hottest man I’ve ever laid eyes on. People would always ask why I like him. :lol: I was always inexplicably drawn to him. Something keeps pulling me towards him, call it a soulmate if you will. I know we have to each other. I met him in August of 2017 at my job. When we first saw each other, something just clicked. We got to know each other a little bit and bonded over a lot of the things we have in common despite a 10+ year age difference. In September of 2017 he switched shifts so we didn’t talk as much but he added me on Facebook so we kept in touch. At the beginning of this year, 2018, we started talking more and had gotten much closer. In February he let me know that he was incredibly attracted to me, as I was him, and he really wanted to be with me. Then comes the BUT: But he is in a difficult living situation right now that is making that impossible. He is currently living with his best friend, who is a female. Which, no big deal, people room with the opposite gender all the time now. He lived with people of all sexes, races and religions when he lived in another state years ago, so it wasn’t anything new to him. But she has feelings for him, and she wants them to be more. He told me he has feelings for her, but it doesn't go past friendship, not the same sort of feelings he has for me. She isn't anything he is attracted to. He can't bring himself to just leave even though he said he has thought about it. He got in some trouble awhile ago, and she helped him out a great deal during that time, so he feels as if he owes her his life, (his words, not mine). She helped him when he was at the lowest he has been and no one has ever been so kind to him in his life, not even his family. He doesn’t have many close friends, so he doesn’t want to abandon her. He told me that he thinks of me and wants to be with me but his conscience is holding him back, he feels like he is in debt to her. That if he left, she would have a hard time and he would feel rotten because he feels like he still owes her. It is money issues as well, she isn’t good with money and he was trying to get her on the right path. They’re both living pay check to paycheck and she also doesn’t have a car, so he is her ride everywhere so they are always together. We stopped talking for awhile in March, but kept in contact thru comments on Facebook instead of messages, and started again in April. It was an ongoing thing. We talked just about every day. He opened up a lot more and we got much closer. Too close I think, because he pulled away. That seems to have been a pattern with him. We will get close to being together, that I think its finally going to happen and he pulls back again. Which is what is happening again right now. We will communicate on Facebook in comments on pictures that he comments on but no messages, which is how we communicated before. Back in March when we stopped in messages, we would still communicate in comments every other day. This time it’s more like once a week if that. We still work at the same place but on different shifts. I'm leaving as he is getting there so I see him briefly for a few minutes while I’m waiting to leave. I always catch him stealing glances or see him staring at me. This has gone on for over a year now. He and I have feelings for each other, we have told each other we are interested in one another and want a relationship. But the relationship with his best friend is holding him back from us starting something. He has said he feels very stuck and lost because he doesn't want to do her wrong as she is the best friend he's ever had his whole life. So when we stopped communicating as much, I believe it is because he's unsure of what to do and doesn't want his feelings to go any deeper than where they are between us currently. Because it is always after we get closer that he pulls away again. He goes thru moments of depression from feeling this way, he would reach out to me and talk to me about it when he was, and it would always be the same thing : I’m the woman of his dreams and he wants us to be more, but he won’t ever get to have me because he can’t bring himself to just walk away. Its like he is stuck in a circle. I told him all it takes is a conversation with her to draw a line saying they aren’t ever going to be more than friends and he wants to start seeing someone. He would always say he could have that conversation with her but he dreads it. Because he doesn’t want to hurt her. Or times he would say he wishes we could go do something together, or he wishes he could hold me and come see me, I would tell him let’s do it, and it would be “I don’t know how I could come see you without her wondering where I am and her being upset. I could just tell her I’m going somewhere but she always invites herself and has to come with me.” Again, a circle. :o It’s like she owns him. He feels as if he is bound to her and has obligations to fulfill until he can move on. That is what he told me after he said he wanted to be with me it just isn't a good time during a previous conversation. I don’t want him to feel like that. I want him to get over the hesitation he has about her so we can finally be together. To bring back the loving feelings we had and the infatuation. For him to feel like he doesn't owe her anything. I just want her to let him go and get out of his life. I am into the craft myself, which is why I am seeking help here. I have done/am doing spells on him and had spell work done back in April. That was another of the things he and I bonded over. He liked that I was into it because it is something he has always been interested in, but I don’t think he really practices. I think it’s something he just likes. He’s told me he doesn’t go by moon phases, or days of the week, or herbs, or do rituals or anything. But said he is very in tune with energy and he loves/carries crystals, something else we bonded over, as we both have extensive collections . But things seemed to be moving in the right direction. He would talk often about us being together, it just hadn't happened. I feel like he and I had gotten closer after April, we were talking a lot more and opening up more, like I said. In July is when I really got my hopes up. :D It felt very close to happening. He said he had been gathering his things together at his roommates, cleaning all his clothes, and preparing himself to leave if it came to that. But hadn't spoken to her about anything, about he and I or even him going. Because as I mentioned earlier, he “dreaded it”. But he was obviously thinking about it since he was getting his stuff around. One of our last conversations he said that he has a keen sense of timing and can feel the shift in energy and didn’t believe it was the time, but he would be prepared when the time came, because he didn’t want to stay there forever, and wanted me in his future. He is so back and forth at times. I know there are feelings there. I just feel like we take a step forward then two steps back. So currently, I haven't spoke to him since July 20th thru texts and the 23rd in person. As I mentioned, we work at the same place but he is on a different shift, I see him every night as I am getting around to leave when he gets there, but that is about it. I'll still catch him stealing glances when he thinks I don't see him, something he has always done. I'm not sure what he is thinking or feeling at this point. Things were going soo well between us. We got closer as far as opening up to each other about what we want. He was getting closer to him moving on or for us to at least start spending time together outside of work. We were talking all the time on our phones. Then he just stopped again. I'm not sure what has gotten into him this time. I know he is stuck between not wanting to hurt his roommates feelings and wanting us to be together, he has told me so multiple times. He can't get past it and is at war with himself. He does go thru his hot and cold phases, that seems to have been a theme since he's been living there and those hindrances between us. It's like he gets too close, feels too much and has to pull away. But this is the coldest he has been. I'm just unsure to why he keeps pulling away again and acts completely uninterested when he's told me otherwise for over a year. Or why it's so hard for him to set things straight with her so we can finally be together like he has talked about. I understand he wants to protect her feelings but he is robbing himself of happiness in the process. He talks often about it upsetting him that he feels this way. Stuck between us being together and not wanting to hurt her. I feel like we are close yet far. I am wondering if he thinks while he is living with his roommate, there is no way for us to be together so that is why he started ignoring me. To try and get the feelings he has for us to go away. He is loyal, to a fault, and a stubborn goat (so am I). I just want him to get over the hesitation he has about his friend and to come back so we can finally be together. He is just STUCK. We have still had no contact, other than 2 comments he has left on 2 of my pictures on Facebook over the past several weeks, but no conversation ever came from them. So this makes it the longest it has ever been with no type of contact. I still feel so strongly for him, more than I have ever felt with anyone. I feel in my heart that we would be together, I can see us having a future together. I just don’t see how right now with the way he’s acting. Things were going so well then out of nowhere, he just disappeared, with no explanation. The last conversation was just a normal one between the two of us, then he never replied, and hasn’t bothered messaging me again after I did. Again, I’m sorry for the length but I wanted to explain my predicament in it’s entirety, I hope I didn’t leave anything out. But if you have questions, by all means, ask and I will answer. I’m a single mother of a young daughter so money is a concern of mine, but I do hope everyone has some recommendations. I do have a short reading scheduled with someone from AIRR this week just to get a general idea if he's worth more work on my part. Trying to put extra money back so I can get a more in depth one done. But fingers crossed for positive news. Like I said, I've never felt like this before, and he has indicated the same feelings as well, so there has to be something there, right?

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Re: Spells for Ex-Lover Ex-Spouse to Return Reconcile Reunite

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sat Sep 29, 2018 11:47 pm

MoonGoddessKat --

I read your long narrative and got this:

August 2017, you met an older man at your job who flirted with you.

September 2017, he switched shifts and you saw each other only in passing; he friended you on Facebook.

January 2018, you began talking and admitted mutual attraction.

February 2018, he finally revealed that he is actually living with another woman.

March 2018, you stopped talking to one another; communication was only through Facebook

April 2018, you did spell work; the two of you resumed talking by phone.

July 2018, your hopes were high; he was talking of packing up and leaving the other woman, then ...

July 20th - 23rd, he cut off communication and you have not talked since.

August 2018, you now merely pass each other at shift changes at work and he makes rare Facebook comments to you.

I can see you are hurt, but my opinion is that this older man flirted with you for about a year while living with another woman, and told you some fancy story about being obligated to her. Then he cut the flirtation off. Maybe she found out and put her foot down, or maybe he felt he had taken the phone affair as far as he could without getting in trouble.

You could resume the type of spell work you did in April (you don't describe it, but it does seem to have worked) and maybe you could get him to resume talking.

But i don't see much of a "hook" here on which to do conjure or rootwork on.

After a year of this, you have no physical tokens of him with which to work contact magic, and he has played his hand very close to the chest, giving you nothing but hope -- and you a single mother with a child and on a short budget -- he ought to be ashamed.

Sorry, i think you've been strung along by a guy who wants to flirt, but is not going to leave the woman he lives with. I'm not saying he is wicked -- i am just saying that it sounds like you got played.

I hope your reader has better news for you, because i just see a dead end here.
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Unread post by MoonGoddessKat » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:48 am

Thank you for your reply cat. I do have personal concerns of his. I have a few crystals he has given me, and papers from work that he has written on, that I continue to collect to use. His roommate actually also works with us and knows who I am and knows we were involved. She would see all of our exchanges on Facebook and see us with each other at work, so I'm not worried that he was lying to me about who she is.
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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:08 am

MoonGoddessKat,

Thanks for clarifying the nature of the triadic relationship and thanks for providing focus to your interest in posting here.

Okay, now, as i understand it, and forgive me if i misinterpreted it earlier, the woman he lives with is totally aware of the flirtation you two have engaged in. This does not mean it is okay with her. Awareness is not necessarily acceptance or approval.

Ask your reader these questions:

About her:

* Does she believe they have a sexual, romantic, or spiritual bond?

* If they do not have sex, has she got a love-interest or lover of her own or is she asexual?

* If they do not have sex, is she okay with the two of you hanging out together?

* If they do not have sex, and she is not okay with the two of you having sex, what hold does she have over his will?

About him:

* Does he believe they have a sexual, romantic, or spiritual bond?

* If he is not sexually connected to her, why does he not have sex with you?

* Why does he use his connection to her as an excuse not to speak to you?

* Why does he use his connection to her as an excuse not to have sex with you?

As a reader myself (but not your reader), i would ask each of these questions before recommending any root doctoring.

Now, as to root work, i recommend that since you have his handwriting, you use one of the papers on which he has written as the paper on which to write your petition. At this point, because he seems to be hiding his feelings (either negative or positive feelings), i would not try to influence him, but simply to get him to reveal his truth.

I repeat, i would not use magic to try to control his mind at this point. I would use magic to try to get him to be truthful. Once he speaks his truth and you hear it or receive it telepathically or in a dream, you can then rationally decide what path you want to take, both socially and magically.

At this point, i am going to direct you to an online spell for psychic insight into the heart and mind of a reluctant lover:

Psychic Vision Spiritual Supplies
http://luckymojo.com/psychicvision.html

Please read this spell; it is helpful to anyone who has been placed in the kind of "hot and cold" or "stuck" situation you have been.

Good luck.
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Unread post by MoonGoddessKat » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:49 pm

Oh I am almost positive she doesn’t approve. She wants to be with him so there is a lot of jealousy and slight animosity towards me I feel, especially when things were hot and heavy between us. She probably felt like I was stealing him away. He and I were never in person physically intimate, but I took up a great deal of his time. When he and I first started talking and getting to know eachother at the beginning, she was pleasant. On nights if I had to stay over at work on their shift she would smile and make small talk. But once she started seeing us closer and see all of the back and forth flirting and loving behavior he and I were sharing, that all changed.

But thank you so so much Cat. As I said, I have been following these forums for awhile now and I always love seeing your advice on situations. I have a 10 minute reading scheduled for Wednesday morning, at that time I was just going to ask what is going on in his mind currently and why he pulled away before I do anymore work on him and ask if it is even worth pursuing. I feel that he is, my gut feelings are seldom wrong, but there’s a first for everything! They say love can make you blind so maybe I’ve fallen victim to it. I will write those questions down and schedule another reading for later on if I get a good vibe on Wednesday. I have a feeling about the answers to some of her questions. I know she hasn’t been with anyone in a while as he is who she is interested in. I feel like she is waiting around because the longer he is there she thinks maybe he will eventually give in and they will be more. I know what he “likes” and she doesn’t fit the bill so I’m not that worried about there being any attraction to her on his part. As I said, he doesn’t have many friends but he is loyal to those he has. I know he believes she wouldn’t want us to hang out outside of work, that’s why we haven’t. One night when she was at work and he wasn’t, we had talked about meeting up, but didn’t because he had the flu(which is why he wasn’t at work for several days). And about what sort of hold she has over him, that I would like to know. He always just says it is because of all she has done for him, he feels in debt and can’t just abandon her. But I will definitely jot those down for clarification. I have access to things with his writing from work all the time since he helps the area I work in. I did the simple name circle and pin spell 5 days ago today, just asking for a sign that he still thought of me. This morning he was interacting on Facebook again for the first time in over a week. So I’ll take that as a small positive sign.

And thank you for the link, I will read over the page right now and update further as I get news.
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Unread post by MoonGoddessKat » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:10 pm

Alright so I'm back! :D Wow, my reading was great to say the least. She backed up everything I was already feeling about the situation with the minimal information I gave her.

She said the problem with the situation that she was feeling was there's a conflict with feelings and timing (Something he had told me before. He feels like he met the right person at the wrong time and how the timing for us is never right) and there was insecurities and emotional instability on his part. But she said there is definitely something there between us. There is potential for something great, there are strong feelings there, but its not there yet. There are just obstacles and blockages in our way right now.

The imagery on one of her cards was there is a table set for a party, but the guests havent arrived yet. So everything is set up to happen, the stage is set, all the things for a relationship between us are there, but it's not at a point where it can be, which comes back to the things she said about feelings and timing not being good right now.

She ended up feeling the need to pull another card, and hitting the nail on the head and asking if there was a 3rd person involved (his roommate/best friend) She said this person is where his emotional instability comes into play, because this person is emotionally manipulating him.

My 10 minutes was up before I could ask what she recommends I start with, so here I am. So my question, or questions rather, are

1) Since his roommate is manipulating him emotionally and he is emotionally bound to her, which is what I had already gathered since he has told me he feels in debt to her and doesnt want to hurt her. What LM products could I use to help both her and him cut emotional ties with each other so they both can move on and he could come back to me?

2) I want to sour their feelings for one another so that they will both want to be away from each other and be able to move on. Would cut and clear work in this situation? I know it is mostly used on ones self but in the cut and clear forum I thought I saw sister Jean say that you COULD perform it for someone else just to buy an extra set of white and black candles.

3) Or can I do a break up ritual on them even tho it isn't a romantic situation?

4) Or both cut and clean and break up??

5) I'm not going to do any love work on him right now until Venus is out of retrograde next month (which my reader also coincidently mentioned) because it would put a damper on any love related workings. i figured I would work whatever is suggested for this predicament first before I start any love spells (or maybe lover return spells) later on. I did just order an LM honey jar spell to sweeten him towards me since he had pulled away, would that still be alright to use with venus retrograding or should I wait on that as well?

6) Oh, Cat, I also wrote down the questions you told me to ask my reader. I plan on scheduling another reading maybe the week after next and asking her those as well. I know she has in her about page that she is an intuitive reader so she can normally see beyond what the cards are telling her, but I was just curious since they are very specific questions -- if she uses tarot cards, would she still be able to give accurate answers to those specific questions?

Sorry for all the questions at once! :roll:
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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:24 pm

MoonGiddessKat,

1) Separation or Break Up

2) A vinegar jar or a lemon or lime spll will sour them on one another. I do not recommend Cut and Clear in this situation.

3) Yes

4) No, i recommend a lemon or line spell and Separation products.

5) If you follow astrology, by all means wait util Venus is out of retrograde to start the honey jar spell. However, if the situation is urgent, start now.

6) Yes, specific questions can be answered with tarot. I do it all the time, and so do many other readers. Providing answers to specific questions is not dependent on the reader's choices of tools or methods, rather it is a function of the reader's innate gifts, personal inclinations, and training.

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Unread post by MoonGoddessKat » Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:27 am

Cat, or anyone else who peeks on this thread, do you think any of the cast off evil or clarity products would be good to use on a skull candle or even a spell kit to do on him to help him break whatever bind she has over him? Or what do you recommend? I'd like to try and cut those emotional ties the reader talked about before doing any love work on him, to "clear out the competition" so to speak. I do plan on doing some break up and separation work on them as well, I want to give my honey jar a little while to work first.
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Unread post by JayDee » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:05 am

Hello MoonGoddessKat ,

Yes both products are great to use to help a person see clearly and to open their eyes. Clarity helps them see clearly on what is going on, cast off evil helps to rid bad habits or bad people in ones life. With a skull candle you will pray over it and talk to it as though its him since its his skull and you are trying to get it into his thoughts. Carve the bottom out and add herbs and a petition paper along with a personal item you have then reseal it. Put four holes in the skull ( carefully they can break), and add the oil and top off with herbs. The name and petition is also carved on the skull. Dress the skull with oil and dry herbs. Burn it in sections as you talk to it and pray over it as him. Puff cigar smoke into the face to help carry the message.
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Unread post by MoonGoddessKat » Sat Oct 06, 2018 4:11 pm

Thank you so much JayDee. I've been reading thru the skull candle thread on this forum as well. You said talk to it as if it is him, but the thoughts I want him to think. I've also seen people say to talk to it as if you ARE the target. For example, "I am thinking of xxx, I miss xxx". Are both ways alright, just whichever you prefer?
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Unread post by JayDee » Sat Oct 06, 2018 4:16 pm

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Yes I think we both are saying the same thing lol. Talk to the skull like you are the person being worked on. This is a man you want to talk sense into you may work the skull saying simple commands such as: Jane doe is no good for me, I am miserable with Jane Doe, I can see clearly now Jane doe is no good, she is a user.. etc Puff the cigar smoke into the face as you say these commands.
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