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Thank you Brother Christopher!
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Brother Christopher!,
Fantastic astrology tip! I never knew this, thank you for sharing your expertise!!
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Full-size tarot deck at a bargain price — from China. We are selling these at the Lucky Mojo Curio Co. in Forestville, California for $14.00 a deck, and although the colouring is not super gorgeous, they are the greatest bargain for a “learner’s” tarot we have seen in decades. The supply we have in stock is limited; no wholesale orders on this item at this time. Also a must for completeist collectors, of course. The SKU number is DIV-TAR-RWSC — limit 3 per customer.
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This just in:
Rider Waite Smith Tarot Deck from China
Use in Magic:
The tarot or tarocchi deck is the most popular system of playing card divination in America. The illustrated faces of the cards help make memorization of the card meaning for the reader and understandable to the sitter.
Spell Methods:
Tarot cards can be used in spells of magic by treating them as the basis for petition papers that relate to the specific situations they depict or as personal links to the particular people they represent.
Product Details:
A full-size English language tarot deck at a bargain price — from China. Although the colouring is not super gorgeous, this is the greatest bargain for a “learner’s” tarot we have seen in decades. The supply we have in stock is limited; no wholesale orders on this item at this time. Also a must for completeist collectors, of course. Limit 3 per customer.
DIV-TAR-RWSC
Rider Waite Smith Tarot Deck from China
$14.00


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Rider Waite Smith Tarot Deck from China
Use in Magic:
The tarot or tarocchi deck is the most popular system of playing card divination in America. The illustrated faces of the cards help make memorization of the card meaning for the reader and understandable to the sitter.
Spell Methods:
Tarot cards can be used in spells of magic by treating them as the basis for petition papers that relate to the specific situations they depict or as personal links to the particular people they represent.
Product Details:
A full-size English language tarot deck at a bargain price — from China. Although the colouring is not super gorgeous, this is the greatest bargain for a “learner’s” tarot we have seen in decades. The supply we have in stock is limited; no wholesale orders on this item at this time. Also a must for completeist collectors, of course. Limit 3 per customer.
DIV-TAR-RWSC
Rider Waite Smith Tarot Deck from China
$14.00


You can order right here in the Forum by clicking on the blue Add To Cart button.
For more information, see:
https://www.luckymojo.com/cartomancy.htm ... waitesmith
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At that price, i think I will pick up three, for my students.
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This would be a great set to purchase if you want to incorporate Tarot cards into your magic by using the cards, without fear of accidentally damaging an expensive set of cards. In the book " A Deck of Spells", this type of work is discussed.
A Deck of Spells: https://www.luckymojo.com/adeckofspells.html
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Rider Waite Smith Tarot Deck from China
Use in Magic:
The tarot or tarocchi deck is the most popular system of playing card divination in America. The illustrated faces of the cards help make memorization of the card meaning for the reader and understandable to the sitter.
Spell Methods:
Tarot cards can be used in spells of magic by treating them as the basis for petition papers that relate to the specific situations they depict or as personal links to the particular people they represent.
Product Details:
A full-size English language tarot deck at a bargain price — from China. Although the colouring is not super gorgeous, this is the greatest bargain for a “learner’s” tarot we have seen in decades. The supply we have in stock is limited; no wholesale orders on this item at this time. Also a must for completeist collectors, of course. Limit 3 per customer.
DIV-TAR-RWSC
Rider Waite Smith Tarot Deck from China
$14.00


You can order right here in the Forum by clicking on the blue Add To Cart button.
For more information, see:
https://www.luckymojo.com/cartomancy.htm ... waitesmith
Use in Magic:
The tarot or tarocchi deck is the most popular system of playing card divination in America. The illustrated faces of the cards help make memorization of the card meaning for the reader and understandable to the sitter.
Spell Methods:
Tarot cards can be used in spells of magic by treating them as the basis for petition papers that relate to the specific situations they depict or as personal links to the particular people they represent.
Product Details:
A full-size English language tarot deck at a bargain price — from China. Although the colouring is not super gorgeous, this is the greatest bargain for a “learner’s” tarot we have seen in decades. The supply we have in stock is limited; no wholesale orders on this item at this time. Also a must for completeist collectors, of course. Limit 3 per customer.
DIV-TAR-RWSC
Rider Waite Smith Tarot Deck from China
$14.00


You can order right here in the Forum by clicking on the blue Add To Cart button.
For more information, see:
https://www.luckymojo.com/cartomancy.htm ... waitesmith
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The AIRR Tech Team shuffled together today to deal a set of five revised web pages on the Secrets of Card Reading, featuring Suits, Courts, Pips, Trumps, and Card Layouts. Catherine Yronwode, Nagasiva Yronwode, Briana Saussy, and Dr. E. wrote the pages, and we included illustrations by Pamela Colman Smith, Frieda Harris, and three unknown artists. If you are learning to read cards, this is vital information you will need -- and if you like to get your cards read by a psychic, these pages will teach you what your reader is looking for in the cards. Catherine Yronwode edited the text and provided site-wide linking; Reverend James wrote the announcement text; and Nagasiva Yronwode created the graphic announcement. Check out our informative pages on the Secrets of Card Reading!
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Psychic Readers' Fortune-Telling and Divination Special (10 Books)
Use in Magic:
This awesome array of books will help you see what the future holds in store. Included in the The Psychic Readers' Fortune-Telling and Divination Special are catherine yronwode's "Throwing the Bones," Michele Jackson's "Bones Shells, and Curios," Rev. Dr. Jon Saint Germain's "Crystal Magic" and "Lithomancy," Professor Porterfield's "A Deck of Spells," Dr. Jeremy Weiss's "Vulvamancy," Valentina Burton's "Fortune Tellers Guide to Success," Dr. Roy Page Walton's "The Secret of Numbers Revealed," edited by cat yronwode, "The Stranger in the Cup" by Gregory Lee White and catherine yronwode, and last but not least, Claude Alexander Conlin's "Secrets of the Crystal Silence League."
Spell Methods:
Lucky Mojo Books are filled with authentic and easy to follow instructions for practical spells of magic and fortune-telling. Enhance your success in spells of love, luck, happiness, and wealth by learning time-tested folkloric traditions of hoodoo, rootwork, psychic reading, spiritual sorcery, and herbalism.
Product Details:
In this ten-volume set -- a total of 960 pages! -- you will learn the history, methods, and techniques of psychic reading and divination with bones, coins, crystals, stones, numbers, cards, and observation of physical traits, and you will also receive a career-building manual on how to set up your own professional psychic reading practice. These ten books regularly sell for $12.00 each (a total of $120.00). Pay only $10.50 each when you buy all ten as a package deal -- a total of only $105.00 (a savings of $15.00). Order "The Psychic Readers' Fortune-Telling and Divination Special" and you will receive one copy each of these 96-page books:
• Bones, Shells, and Curios by Michele Jackson
• Crystal Magic by Jon Saint Germain
• A Deck of Spells by Professor C. D. Porterfield
• The Fortune Teller's Guide to Success by Valentina Burton
• Lithomancy by Rev. Dr. Jon Saint Germain
• The Secret of Numbers Revealed by catherine yronwode, Dr. Roy Page Walton, Lewis de Claremont, Godfrey Spencer, and Frank Householder
• Secrets of the Crystal Silence League by Claude Alexander Conlin, edited, annotated, restored, and revised by catherine yronwode and Deacon Millett
• The Stranger n the Cup by Gregory Lee White and catherine yronwode
• Throwing the Bones by catherine yronwode
• Vulvamancy by Dr. Jeremy Weiss
Format: Ten 96 page books (960 pages), trade paperbacks, illustrated
Publisher: LMCCo and MISC
Publication dates: 2013-2020
ISBNs: Various
Tagged: Divination, Spells and Magic, Specials
BOO-SPE-DIVI
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Re: Cartomancy Tarot Playing Cards Oracle Deck Lenormand Loteria Card Divination Questions and Answers
The Four Aces or Cutting Aces method shared by Miss Cat on this forum is actually awesome to say the least. I've used it recently with great success. Interestingly enough, the aces that appear are also relevant to the question, so for example if I ask anything love related, I get the ace of hearts, if it's money related, the first card is the ace of diamonds and so on. Great methodology!
I am curious if people are drawn to a specific way to pick the cards, particularly as it happens during the radio sessions. Whether it's forming a fan, or picking from the top. I've started to shuffle them while picking randomly from the deck without making a fan as I end the session. With great result!
I am curious if people are drawn to a specific way to pick the cards, particularly as it happens during the radio sessions. Whether it's forming a fan, or picking from the top. I've started to shuffle them while picking randomly from the deck without making a fan as I end the session. With great result!
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BalkanDiviner ,
What a great question! I have had readings from 100s of readers, many of the AIRR members, Miss Cat, and locals. I have noticed many have their "own way", often taught to them, passed down from a teacher or family member. I have noticed some do it differently each time I have seen them, sometimes they use the same method. I assumed their intuition told them how to select the cards for that reading. I have a friend who reads and has several decks out, she listens to her intuition on which deck to use, sometimes switching decks for other questions.
There are many books on different reading methods, how to cut the deck, how to pick the cards, how to create the reading with the cards. These can be a great start when learning how to read the deck and to practice the skill of using different patterns and methods. For example, I have seen a heart shape layout used to help divinate about a specific lover. Sometimes when a client asks about a prospective lover, I will do that layout first, then move into another to get more details.
I personally prefer to shuffle them, sometimes really mixing them up, as I pray over them, then dealing them out. I do not like the fan it just does not resonate with me, but others it does. A big part of learning is also determining what works for you, what produces the right results and doing more of it.
The Red Folder and A Deck of Spells, both have card reading information in them and are a great asset.
Red Folder: https://www.luckymojo.com/theredfolder.html
A Deck of Spells: https://www.luckymojo.com/adeckofspells.html
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What a great question! I have had readings from 100s of readers, many of the AIRR members, Miss Cat, and locals. I have noticed many have their "own way", often taught to them, passed down from a teacher or family member. I have noticed some do it differently each time I have seen them, sometimes they use the same method. I assumed their intuition told them how to select the cards for that reading. I have a friend who reads and has several decks out, she listens to her intuition on which deck to use, sometimes switching decks for other questions.
There are many books on different reading methods, how to cut the deck, how to pick the cards, how to create the reading with the cards. These can be a great start when learning how to read the deck and to practice the skill of using different patterns and methods. For example, I have seen a heart shape layout used to help divinate about a specific lover. Sometimes when a client asks about a prospective lover, I will do that layout first, then move into another to get more details.
I personally prefer to shuffle them, sometimes really mixing them up, as I pray over them, then dealing them out. I do not like the fan it just does not resonate with me, but others it does. A big part of learning is also determining what works for you, what produces the right results and doing more of it.
The Red Folder and A Deck of Spells, both have card reading information in them and are a great asset.
Red Folder: https://www.luckymojo.com/theredfolder.html
A Deck of Spells: https://www.luckymojo.com/adeckofspells.html
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Hello, BalkanDiviner --
Thanks for your praise of the Four Aces or Cutting Aces method -- and for those coming in later to this thread, i posted it back on page 2!
As to you your question: i usually do The Old Three Card Cut on the radio shows, and the Nine-Patch (three rows of the Old Three Card Cut) on longer paid readings.
The Nine Patch allows me to read the rows of three and then to re-read the entire square by rows, columns, and diagonals, looking for:
* Colour Patterns (e.g. yellow skies, blue skies, horse colours, clothing colours -- all important on the RWS, but not all other decks),
* People-Position Patterns (e.g. solitary or grouped; seated or standing, left-, right-, forward-, or backward-facing; in nature or on a theatrical stage),
* Repetitious Presence of Notable Entities or Objects (e.g. angels, fishes, ships, castles, horses, flowers, mountains, towers, cliffs, and so forth),
* Repetitious Presence of the Same Actors Posing for Different Cards (e.g 2 of S and High Priestess; Magician and 3 of W, Kn of P and K of P -- all important on the RWS, but not all other decks),
* Repetitious Presence of Suits, Numbers, or Court Cards (e.g. any suits, court cards, or pip numbers that are statistically over or under represented in the layout, for example five assorted Wands, three Knights, all four 5s, six assorted Trumps, three 2s plus three 3s, and so forth), and that brings us to ...
* Winning Poker Hands (This is idiosyncratic and i know of no other tarot readers who use this method of reading. From the same mind that brought you "Cutting Aces": Having a pretty good grasp of the way winning rankings are composed in the game of poker, i apply the presumed probabilities to tarot, despite the difference in deck layout. For example, the full house, four of a kind, and straight flush rank high in 5-card draw poker, so similar runs of numbers and suits in a Nine Patch tarot layout hold strong weight for me as "winning" the client's desires in a psychic reading, because as i am laying out the cards, i am visually scanning them and silently, secretly planning what my discards would be in poker! If you are interested in pursuing this idea, you can either skip trumps (my preference), or consider the deck as consisting of five suits with the trump numbers in Roman numerals. You will also have to make allowance for the fourth court card, so a royal flush would be A, K, Q, Kn, P -- with the P replacing the 10. Oooops, sorry to go off on a tangent!)
As for why i use short rows of three cards rather than a fan: There is no psychic or spiritual reason for this. I am extremely near-sighted, with a very limited field of vision, and so i work on a 12" square table with a mini-deck.
Here is a radio podcast on card layouts:
The Now You Know Show #107: Recipes, Playing Card Layouts and Spreads, and Agrimony
post437184.html?hilit=tarot%20layouts#p437184
Thanks for your interest!
Thanks for your praise of the Four Aces or Cutting Aces method -- and for those coming in later to this thread, i posted it back on page 2!
As to you your question: i usually do The Old Three Card Cut on the radio shows, and the Nine-Patch (three rows of the Old Three Card Cut) on longer paid readings.
The Nine Patch allows me to read the rows of three and then to re-read the entire square by rows, columns, and diagonals, looking for:
* Colour Patterns (e.g. yellow skies, blue skies, horse colours, clothing colours -- all important on the RWS, but not all other decks),
* People-Position Patterns (e.g. solitary or grouped; seated or standing, left-, right-, forward-, or backward-facing; in nature or on a theatrical stage),
* Repetitious Presence of Notable Entities or Objects (e.g. angels, fishes, ships, castles, horses, flowers, mountains, towers, cliffs, and so forth),
* Repetitious Presence of the Same Actors Posing for Different Cards (e.g 2 of S and High Priestess; Magician and 3 of W, Kn of P and K of P -- all important on the RWS, but not all other decks),
* Repetitious Presence of Suits, Numbers, or Court Cards (e.g. any suits, court cards, or pip numbers that are statistically over or under represented in the layout, for example five assorted Wands, three Knights, all four 5s, six assorted Trumps, three 2s plus three 3s, and so forth), and that brings us to ...
* Winning Poker Hands (This is idiosyncratic and i know of no other tarot readers who use this method of reading. From the same mind that brought you "Cutting Aces": Having a pretty good grasp of the way winning rankings are composed in the game of poker, i apply the presumed probabilities to tarot, despite the difference in deck layout. For example, the full house, four of a kind, and straight flush rank high in 5-card draw poker, so similar runs of numbers and suits in a Nine Patch tarot layout hold strong weight for me as "winning" the client's desires in a psychic reading, because as i am laying out the cards, i am visually scanning them and silently, secretly planning what my discards would be in poker! If you are interested in pursuing this idea, you can either skip trumps (my preference), or consider the deck as consisting of five suits with the trump numbers in Roman numerals. You will also have to make allowance for the fourth court card, so a royal flush would be A, K, Q, Kn, P -- with the P replacing the 10. Oooops, sorry to go off on a tangent!)
As for why i use short rows of three cards rather than a fan: There is no psychic or spiritual reason for this. I am extremely near-sighted, with a very limited field of vision, and so i work on a 12" square table with a mini-deck.
Here is a radio podcast on card layouts:
The Now You Know Show #107: Recipes, Playing Card Layouts and Spreads, and Agrimony
post437184.html?hilit=tarot%20layouts#p437184
Thanks for your interest!
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How do you handle third person readings? I’ve met throughout my cartomancy journey peope with obvious different perspectives. Some people right off the bat refuse any sort of question based on a person that is not present ( save for “does my crush like me” type of questions). I’ve also met some people, admittedly in neo-pagan circles especially, that consider how a third person reading is impossible “as there is no energetic link”.
I’ve considered those assumptions inaccurate, but that’s only from my part. You can definitely divine on another person without their direct request, and third person readings have a history and are accepted even in the radio show each Sunday.
My personal approach is that I can peer into the cards in regard to a third person as long as the answer is helpful to the querent in one way or the other. I would obviously not pull some cards only for stalking reasons…which would be creepy.
Any other thoughts?
I’ve considered those assumptions inaccurate, but that’s only from my part. You can definitely divine on another person without their direct request, and third person readings have a history and are accepted even in the radio show each Sunday.
My personal approach is that I can peer into the cards in regard to a third person as long as the answer is helpful to the querent in one way or the other. I would obviously not pull some cards only for stalking reasons…which would be creepy.
Any other thoughts?
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Hey BalkanDiviner!
My approach is much like your own, and I really appreciate how succinctly you explained that!
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I would like to add in addition to Miss Cat's terrific recommendation on page 5 that involves either (or both) self educating yourself through books or paying for professional readings in order to start reading professionally as a psychic, that an affordable method is to listen to the radio show each Sunday and do the reading in your own place as the client is presented, afterwards check how much it actually resonates with the guests from AIRR's interpretations for the respective person (almost as if you were a third guest so to speak). Last Sunday I've done that and the results were incredible. You get accustomed to the cards symbolism and also their links to hoodoo and folk magic, while also checking if your interpretation resonates with what the other readers see.
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BalkanDiviner,
Going back to the first thing you mentioned — the need to establish an "energetic link" to the "third party" in certain questions — i think you may have figured out my general techniques from listening to me on the radio show. I can list them as follows (and be aware that not all are possible toobtain -- or even relvant -- with any given radio show reading):
Trying to preserve the client's privacy on the podcast, i consider and i may ask for:
I also want to hear the client's voice,
These small on-air touch-points form the entirety of my "energetic link" to the querent and from that querent to any other parties involved. Such links are very tenuous when compared to the personal contact established in a one-on-one telephone reading or an in-person reading, but i have a certain gift for reading and have been a card reader for decades, so i can create a link from very little, if i must.
In a one-on-one reading i often have photographs to dowse, and i can go far deeper in my card reading as well, with a series of three card cuts.
Going back to the first thing you mentioned — the need to establish an "energetic link" to the "third party" in certain questions — i think you may have figured out my general techniques from listening to me on the radio show. I can list them as follows (and be aware that not all are possible toobtain -- or even relvant -- with any given radio show reading):
Trying to preserve the client's privacy on the podcast, i consider and i may ask for:
- the region of the nation where the querent lives (we get this information on the intake form and i can use it through visual memory, as in map dowsing)
- astrological Sun signs,
- first names,
- length of time together (if relevant; for love questions),
- length of time apart (if relevant; for love questions),
- field of occupation (if relevant; for money and job questions; i often relate this to the Sun sign).
- children (if relevant, and, if so, their ages and genders),
- pets (if relevant).
I also want to hear the client's voice,
- for breathing (this can alert me to medical issues),
- for any unusual word usage or vocal affect.
These small on-air touch-points form the entirety of my "energetic link" to the querent and from that querent to any other parties involved. Such links are very tenuous when compared to the personal contact established in a one-on-one telephone reading or an in-person reading, but i have a certain gift for reading and have been a card reader for decades, so i can create a link from very little, if i must.
In a one-on-one reading i often have photographs to dowse, and i can go far deeper in my card reading as well, with a series of three card cuts.
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Your knowledge is vast, Miss Cat! These links are surely important, and a telephone (or even better a one-to-one reading) provides a different connection. I am one who shies away from psychic calls at the moment, and prefer email readings. How do you shuffle cards? I am asking because as I've noticed you draw them fairly quickly, and usually I tend to shuffle a bit longer (hence why I am terrified of taking too long to draw cards in a telephone reading and prefer to give email ones).
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Here is how I do it on my pre-scheduled readings, BalkanDiviner:
"I'd like you to select the cards for this reading. I'm going to spread them all out in front of me, and then I'll run my fingers over the cards. When you say STOP, I will pick a card. We'll do this ten times until we have all ten cards for our reading. Sound good?"
I feel this is too time-consuming on Hoodoo Psychics readings, since they are paid by the minute. To refresh my deck for those, I place the cards one at a time into five piles then pull those together and shuffle a little more. This preps my deck for 21 3-card pulls, which I can use to answer 21 different questions from various clients before reshuffling.
"I'd like you to select the cards for this reading. I'm going to spread them all out in front of me, and then I'll run my fingers over the cards. When you say STOP, I will pick a card. We'll do this ten times until we have all ten cards for our reading. Sound good?"
I feel this is too time-consuming on Hoodoo Psychics readings, since they are paid by the minute. To refresh my deck for those, I place the cards one at a time into five piles then pull those together and shuffle a little more. This preps my deck for 21 3-card pulls, which I can use to answer 21 different questions from various clients before reshuffling.
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What a great question! First, i just HATE IT when a phone psychic makes you pay for the time spent shuffling! So rude! In person, such a pause to riffle and flourish and make rainbow spreads may be part of the performance, but on the phone, where it can't even be seen -- NO!
To understand how i shuffle, and why i chose the method that i use, you need to know that there are several ways to shuffle a deck. Here is a basic guide, from Wikipedia:
Wikipedia - Shuffling
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuffling
There are many shuffles described there, but i am going to deal with the five most often used by card readers in America
Riffle Shuffle: Most Americans, both card players and card readers, use the riffle shuffle, which i think takes too long on the phone. Nobody who calls for a psychic reading wants to pay to hear the endless ASMR sound of a Riffle Shuffle!
Schwirsheling: Some psychic readers with a big table -- and especially those who read reverses (which i do not) -- prefer to Schwirshel the cards, which i view as messy and a time-waster. For some reason, this method is very popular at Psychic Fairs. I hate it.
Pile Shuffle: The pile shuffle is also seen at psychic fairs. It may attract attention to your table, and it is less messy than Schwirsheling, but on the phone, it is another useless time waster.
Hindu Shuffle: When i used to work with standard-sized cards, i did the Hindu Shuffle, also known as the Asian Shuffle or Indian Shuffle. With the smaller cards i use now (see below), this is awkward for me, so i prefer the Overhand Shuffle, simply based on the size of the cards.
Overhand Shuffle: I work with a U.S. Games Rider Waite Smith mini deck. This is a bit larger than a European Patience deck, but at approximately 1 ¾ inches by 3 inches, it is a lot smaller than a standard deck of cards and does not lend itself to to the Riffle, due to the lack of card flexibility. The size is also a bit awkward for the Hindu Shuffle. I happen to have fairly (maybe very) small hands with thin little fingers, so this mini deck fits directly in my palm, and therefore i use the Overhand Shuffle. I am autistic, and as a "fidget," i shuffle overhand continuously while talking to the client, and when a question is asked and i repeat it out loud, i stop shuffling .
The Old Three Card Cut: The moment i have stated the question and stopped shuffling, i set the full pack on my small wooden desk-side table (which has a total area of 12 by 12 inches) and i make two cuts, resulting in three stacks, which i array from left to right across the middle of the table. This gives me the three cards which, from left to right, are the cards i will read. I draw each card off the stack, flip it, and set it closer to me, in front of the stacks. This is the method you hear me perform on the radio.
For a Private Reading: If the reading will continue past three cards, as on a private phone call, i pick up the three stacks, and continue to shuffle Overhand as the client presents me with the next question. I move the first three cards away from me to leave room for a second row of three cards. I again cut and make three stacks, but now the stacks are father away from me, and the new three cards are arrayed closer to me, in front of the first three. If a third question is asked, i repeat this with a third row, producing an array of 9 cards, which i can now read across by rows or top to bottom by columns, like a nine-patch in quilt making or a game of tic-tac-toe. (I described this above.) If the call will go longer than a half hour, i will go to twelve cards, but at this point i will run out of table room, so i overlap the cards a bit to accommodate new rows. On a very long phone call i can go through the entire deck.
I hope this helps.
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What a great question! First, i just HATE IT when a phone psychic makes you pay for the time spent shuffling! So rude! In person, such a pause to riffle and flourish and make rainbow spreads may be part of the performance, but on the phone, where it can't even be seen -- NO!
To understand how i shuffle, and why i chose the method that i use, you need to know that there are several ways to shuffle a deck. Here is a basic guide, from Wikipedia:
Wikipedia - Shuffling
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuffling
There are many shuffles described there, but i am going to deal with the five most often used by card readers in America
Riffle Shuffle: Most Americans, both card players and card readers, use the riffle shuffle, which i think takes too long on the phone. Nobody who calls for a psychic reading wants to pay to hear the endless ASMR sound of a Riffle Shuffle!
Schwirsheling: Some psychic readers with a big table -- and especially those who read reverses (which i do not) -- prefer to Schwirshel the cards, which i view as messy and a time-waster. For some reason, this method is very popular at Psychic Fairs. I hate it.
Pile Shuffle: The pile shuffle is also seen at psychic fairs. It may attract attention to your table, and it is less messy than Schwirsheling, but on the phone, it is another useless time waster.
Hindu Shuffle: When i used to work with standard-sized cards, i did the Hindu Shuffle, also known as the Asian Shuffle or Indian Shuffle. With the smaller cards i use now (see below), this is awkward for me, so i prefer the Overhand Shuffle, simply based on the size of the cards.
Overhand Shuffle: I work with a U.S. Games Rider Waite Smith mini deck. This is a bit larger than a European Patience deck, but at approximately 1 ¾ inches by 3 inches, it is a lot smaller than a standard deck of cards and does not lend itself to to the Riffle, due to the lack of card flexibility. The size is also a bit awkward for the Hindu Shuffle. I happen to have fairly (maybe very) small hands with thin little fingers, so this mini deck fits directly in my palm, and therefore i use the Overhand Shuffle. I am autistic, and as a "fidget," i shuffle overhand continuously while talking to the client, and when a question is asked and i repeat it out loud, i stop shuffling .
The Old Three Card Cut: The moment i have stated the question and stopped shuffling, i set the full pack on my small wooden desk-side table (which has a total area of 12 by 12 inches) and i make two cuts, resulting in three stacks, which i array from left to right across the middle of the table. This gives me the three cards which, from left to right, are the cards i will read. I draw each card off the stack, flip it, and set it closer to me, in front of the stacks. This is the method you hear me perform on the radio.
For a Private Reading: If the reading will continue past three cards, as on a private phone call, i pick up the three stacks, and continue to shuffle Overhand as the client presents me with the next question. I move the first three cards away from me to leave room for a second row of three cards. I again cut and make three stacks, but now the stacks are father away from me, and the new three cards are arrayed closer to me, in front of the first three. If a third question is asked, i repeat this with a third row, producing an array of 9 cards, which i can now read across by rows or top to bottom by columns, like a nine-patch in quilt making or a game of tic-tac-toe. (I described this above.) If the call will go longer than a half hour, i will go to twelve cards, but at this point i will run out of table room, so i overlap the cards a bit to accommodate new rows. On a very long phone call i can go through the entire deck.
I hope this helps.
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Deacon Millet, thank you so much for your input. It's also creative and not a method I've personally heard before. In the past a reader told me that he used to let his clients pick the cards from a fan in a face-to-face session, but since virtual readings are now more popular and accessible, such practices tend to be rarer.
Miss Cat, wow your depth and knowledge into asking my questions are mesmerizing. Thanks a lot! As a fun fact, I am autistic also and use the overhand shuffle so I shake your hand in this regard. It crossed my mind the way you stop as the question is asked by the client, it's overall a perfect method to read the cards and to not waste the client's time as that's my fear too. And I detest passionately the riffle shuffling, ugh, never got into me.
Miss Cat, wow your depth and knowledge into asking my questions are mesmerizing. Thanks a lot! As a fun fact, I am autistic also and use the overhand shuffle so I shake your hand in this regard. It crossed my mind the way you stop as the question is asked by the client, it's overall a perfect method to read the cards and to not waste the client's time as that's my fear too. And I detest passionately the riffle shuffling, ugh, never got into me.
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Do you use cards that jump out of the deck while shuffling in any meaningful way? In the past, some people advocated using them as the first cards of your line or placing them as additional information, but recently I've found myself simply placing those back in the deck.
Also, a client from Radio Show today brought an interesting topic concerning life readings. I am aware myself that cartomancy or tarot or any other system of reading cards really can peer far into the future and give meaningful information. But how does a life reading essentially take place? It's a one hour or more reading and similar to an astrological session or geomancy chart, because traditionally long-term predictions are associated with those methods rather than card readings. As in, at the birth of a baby for instance, an astrologer would come to give plenty of information about his/her life rather than a card reader. It's an interesting phenomenon but one that I have not read too much about.
Also, a client from Radio Show today brought an interesting topic concerning life readings. I am aware myself that cartomancy or tarot or any other system of reading cards really can peer far into the future and give meaningful information. But how does a life reading essentially take place? It's a one hour or more reading and similar to an astrological session or geomancy chart, because traditionally long-term predictions are associated with those methods rather than card readings. As in, at the birth of a baby for instance, an astrologer would come to give plenty of information about his/her life rather than a card reader. It's an interesting phenomenon but one that I have not read too much about.
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BalkanDiviner --
Great question!
I use the overhand shuffle with mini-cards, so it is exceedingly rare for a card to jump out of the deck for me. If it does, i tend to read it last, as the "by the way" card.
More likely, but also extremely rare, due to years of my using the same pack and eating lunch at my desk (YES! The truth is out!) i will get two cards lightly stuck together. When this happens -- and i think i can remember it happening maybe twice on all these radio shows -- i do read both cards in succession, in the same position as the one card would have been.
Regarding life readings -- you caught the fact that on this week's radio show that flustered me. Like, Whaaaat? I do give a Wheel of the Year reading with twelve cards placed in the twelve astrological houses, plus three packs of three cards on three of the houses selected by the sitter -- and i can rush it in one hour, but if it is the client's birthday, i take it at my normal pace and give them a free extra half-hour and it is then called The Birthday Special. It is a one year reading only.
Interesting enough, the woman i read for today got some pretty strong timing cards in her reading, which proved to run from her birthday in early Gemini through the six months leading to Sagittarius. So she did get a "long reading" out of three cards, but not a life reading, by any means.
For life readings, i prefer astrology combined with palmistry and numerology.
Great question!
I use the overhand shuffle with mini-cards, so it is exceedingly rare for a card to jump out of the deck for me. If it does, i tend to read it last, as the "by the way" card.
More likely, but also extremely rare, due to years of my using the same pack and eating lunch at my desk (YES! The truth is out!) i will get two cards lightly stuck together. When this happens -- and i think i can remember it happening maybe twice on all these radio shows -- i do read both cards in succession, in the same position as the one card would have been.
Regarding life readings -- you caught the fact that on this week's radio show that flustered me. Like, Whaaaat? I do give a Wheel of the Year reading with twelve cards placed in the twelve astrological houses, plus three packs of three cards on three of the houses selected by the sitter -- and i can rush it in one hour, but if it is the client's birthday, i take it at my normal pace and give them a free extra half-hour and it is then called The Birthday Special. It is a one year reading only.
Interesting enough, the woman i read for today got some pretty strong timing cards in her reading, which proved to run from her birthday in early Gemini through the six months leading to Sagittarius. So she did get a "long reading" out of three cards, but not a life reading, by any means.
For life readings, i prefer astrology combined with palmistry and numerology.
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As to the question on using cards that jump out, I usually do not.
This is because I live with a disability that affects my hands, making it common for me to drop cards or for them to seem like they are "jumping" at times.
However, there are a few instances where a card does "jump," but the feeling is not the same as when I am shuffling and a card falls out due to how I hold the cards. It's an unusual experience, and that is likely the only time that I will take a look and read with the card or cards that came out.
This is because I live with a disability that affects my hands, making it common for me to drop cards or for them to seem like they are "jumping" at times.
However, there are a few instances where a card does "jump," but the feeling is not the same as when I am shuffling and a card falls out due to how I hold the cards. It's an unusual experience, and that is likely the only time that I will take a look and read with the card or cards that came out.
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When it comes to Cartomancy I usually read the jumpers as a shadow card. Influencing the entire situation.

When it comes to Cartomancy I usually read the jumpers as a shadow card. Influencing the entire situation.
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Msmoody ,
Reading cards is a skill that is taught but also one that becomes personalized to the reader. I read jumpers as part of the theme but not as a specific card. For example, if a client asks me if they are cursed and how while shuffling the Devil card jumps out I know work is happening, then I do the reading to determine more.
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Reading cards is a skill that is taught but also one that becomes personalized to the reader. I read jumpers as part of the theme but not as a specific card. For example, if a client asks me if they are cursed and how while shuffling the Devil card jumps out I know work is happening, then I do the reading to determine more.
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Hi JayDee,
Yes the devil in tarot can represent negative work. In Carto Mancy, it is Jack of spades, which I consider as a devil card. In tarot It can be the devil.
Yes the devil in tarot can represent negative work. In Carto Mancy, it is Jack of spades, which I consider as a devil card. In tarot It can be the devil.
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Have you guys used cards for finding lost objects? In the Italian methodology I've learned we can certainly do that and it's certainly an interesting way of reading. Each card has an assigned location ( say, 8 of diamonds represents a storage room, 6 of spades the bathroom, 4 of hearts the bedroom) In my understanding, people would think of using the pendulum or dowsing rods for this sort of thing, but unbeknownst to some, card reading can be just as effective.
Fun story, I once lost my earpads. I've drawn a card that was exactly 4 of hearts ( the bedroom card, also the bed in general). Immediately, I've located them under my mattress.
Do you have any interesting story to share?
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Do you have any interesting story to share?
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Hi, BalkanDiviner,
I have never heard of this technique. It sounds great. Can you explain it in greater detail?
I have never heard of this technique. It sounds great. Can you explain it in greater detail?
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Hi, Miss cat! It's not a technique per se. Simply put, if a client comes asking "where can I find my (insert lost object)?", the reader lays down three cards. It's not recommended to use more than those as the reading becomes blurry. The specific location will be given, whereas the other two cards will pin point additional information about the object.
It's tricky. And it depends on the system used by the card reader. But in this methodology there are several cards that have a location assigned to them. You use your intuition, combined with mixing numerology and suit association and voila. For instance, if I ask where are my keys and I get the Queen of Hearts, The Ace of Hearts and the 5 of hearts. First, I look at the suit and I am reassured that my keys will be found. Afterwards, I notice that the Queen is a motherly figure (say my mother), the Ace of hearts is the home and protection (so they are not damaged) and the 5 of hearts in this system is linked to female clothing. Next, I find the keys hidden in my mother's wardrobe.
Hearts indicate protection and safety, as well as closeness. Spades would indicate the possibility that the object is lost or damaged or, worse, stolen. Clubs and diamonds are a bit more open to interpretation. I know the system works wonderfully with playing cards, but I believe it requires more experience from the reader as you need a clear, creative and focused mind. Each card generally has a modern Cartomancy meaning assigned to it, so you would search and learn step by step those.
It's tricky. And it depends on the system used by the card reader. But in this methodology there are several cards that have a location assigned to them. You use your intuition, combined with mixing numerology and suit association and voila. For instance, if I ask where are my keys and I get the Queen of Hearts, The Ace of Hearts and the 5 of hearts. First, I look at the suit and I am reassured that my keys will be found. Afterwards, I notice that the Queen is a motherly figure (say my mother), the Ace of hearts is the home and protection (so they are not damaged) and the 5 of hearts in this system is linked to female clothing. Next, I find the keys hidden in my mother's wardrobe.
Hearts indicate protection and safety, as well as closeness. Spades would indicate the possibility that the object is lost or damaged or, worse, stolen. Clubs and diamonds are a bit more open to interpretation. I know the system works wonderfully with playing cards, but I believe it requires more experience from the reader as you need a clear, creative and focused mind. Each card generally has a modern Cartomancy meaning assigned to it, so you would search and learn step by step those.
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BalkanDiviner,
Very interesting, can you give an example, such as how would a person use this for a client with a two-bedroom home, living room, dining room, kitchen, and bath?
Do they use a whole deck or part of a deck, do they pull and assign all the cards or a few cards?
JayDee
Very interesting, can you give an example, such as how would a person use this for a client with a two-bedroom home, living room, dining room, kitchen, and bath?
Do they use a whole deck or part of a deck, do they pull and assign all the cards or a few cards?
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Jaydee,
Thanks for your interest! You use the whole deck. It's basically another three card line as any other question, you're only required to understand specific locations. First, the row tells the reader whether the object can be or cannot be found anymore. From then, you wave a story by peering at the cards. It's not rocket science, obviously. But your intuition acts as a guide. There is a list of modern location meanings for each card but I am afraid I cannot share those in this forum as it goes against the rules and it has not connection to hoodoo or Luckymojo products.
Each room has a card association. In this line, one of the cards gives the location, whereas the other two offer additional information. So for instance, you may get a bedroom as the response, but the surrounding card would describe whose bedroom by pointing out masculine/feminine energies, etc.
Thanks for your interest! You use the whole deck. It's basically another three card line as any other question, you're only required to understand specific locations. First, the row tells the reader whether the object can be or cannot be found anymore. From then, you wave a story by peering at the cards. It's not rocket science, obviously. But your intuition acts as a guide. There is a list of modern location meanings for each card but I am afraid I cannot share those in this forum as it goes against the rules and it has not connection to hoodoo or Luckymojo products.
Each room has a card association. In this line, one of the cards gives the location, whereas the other two offer additional information. So for instance, you may get a bedroom as the response, but the surrounding card would describe whose bedroom by pointing out masculine/feminine energies, etc.