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Post by mabsan5x5 » Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:58 am

Okay that's some great information thank you! One more question - can disposing of the bath water in running water have the same effect as tossing it at crossroads?

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Post by suzyparker » Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:28 am

Hello All, after taking a long time off and doing much peace and tranquility work, I want to undo any negative spells I have sent others in the past.

Cat mentions it briefly in a previous post:

"If you cannot dig up and dismantle the spell work remains, then your next option is to bathe, cleanse, and bless the person you attacked.

The blessing and cleansing of the former victim can be done in person or by proxy. A more remorseful option would be to reverse the spell to yourself -- for instance, you were angry and sent pain; now you have to reverse the pain into yourself.

This should be followed by restitution and restoration, such as performing a spell for their happiness.

After that you would perform a sin-removing cleansing spell on yourself, such as reciting the 51st Psalm while bathing with Hyssop."

Just wondering, how do you reverse the spell to yourself.. would you do the exact ritual you did to the other only ask that the pain you caused them be brought on to yourself, etc?

Many thanks to anyone who has ever un-done past work they regret.

Thank you.

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Post by Devi Spring » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:15 am

When reversing the spell to yourself, work it as any other reversing spell (butting a black candle, Reversing oil, etc), only you're putting YOUR name in place of the enemy name - because you were the enemy in that work. Pray that the work be reversed off of your target and sent back to you.

You can read more about Reversing work here: http://www.luckymojo.com/reversing.html
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Post by suzyparker » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:12 am

Devi,

thank you so much for the clarification on the Psalm and how to proceed. I really just to put myself in a place where I'm all about positive energy and want to wash away any harm I've caused any others.

Thank you. I will proceed accordingly.

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Post by catherineyronwode » Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:58 pm

wanderingknits -- Devi gave you some great advice.

For a set of general traditional guidelines regarding disposal of ritual remains of all kinds, please see my "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice" web page "Laying Down Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remains" from my free online book "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice:

Laying Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remains in the Hoodoo Tradition
http://luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html

In addition, these are the forum threads that deal with ritual disposals:

Disposal of Spell Kit Remains Questions and Answers
disposal-of-spell-kit-remains-questions ... 12316.html

Disposing of Bath Water and Floor Wash Remains
disposing-of-bath-water-and-floor-wash- ... ml#p120548

Candles: Disposal of Ritual Remains
candles-disposal-of-ritual-remains-t7525.html

Using Leftover Incense Ash in Rootwork
using-leftover-incense-ash-in-rootwork-t24073.html

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Post by mojojunkie » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:29 pm

first i have to say if ur a beginner u should definitely check out the lucky mojo hoodoo rootwork hour audioblog. ive known about lucky mojo for a couple years now and have learned tons since but last weekend i actually checked out the audioblog. even though ive only heard a few of them so far i feel like im learnin all over again. lots of great info.
You can link to it from this page

http://luckymojo.com/radioshow.html

anyways im slowly getting away from the theory of everything and attempting to actually put it all into practice and since i dont have much to work with, common sense says work with what u got, right?

my beginning focus has been to set up a spirit table, ancestor shrine, boveda whatever u wanna call it and go from there so im in the process of getting pictures of deceased relatives and finding statues and stuff like that to complete it. so naturally i really enjoyed the radio show about ancestor work & altars and i forgot who said it but there was a woman using trees as a metaphor to explain the spirit world…the roots represent our ancestors, the trunk represents the crossroads and the leaves the spirit world. she mentioned if u wanted help from the spirits to simply talk into the water and after throw the water into a crossroads so ur request can be carried out.

i LOVED that metaphor and really connected with it so i guess my question is instead of goin to a crossroads would it be acceptable to take the water to a tree and throw it on the roots as way of giving the spirits (roots) the request (water) so it can be taken through the crossroads (trunk) n sent to the spirit world (leaves)? does that make sense? that thought just came to me the other day n i was curious what others thought.

anyway thanks for hearing me out!!

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Post by catherineyronwode » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:33 pm

I believe the show you are referring to is this:

2005-3) Wed. Mar. 2, 2005: The Lucky Mojo Hoodoo Rootwork Hour
Ancestor Work: Altars and Offerings,
Dr. Kioni and catherine yronwode,
with Mambo Angel, Dara Anzlowar, and Eoghan Ballard
Audio Archive Status: Dr. Kioni's Audio Blog

I know many people who work with trees to take off negative things, but no one i know works with trees as a substitute for a crossroads. The crossroads is so important to our way of working that i would be reluctant to recommend that you make a substitute for it.
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Post by mojojunkie » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:13 pm

i definitely dont want to stray from tradition n have no problem working with crossroads but i think the gemini in me just got curious :] thanks for the advice cat!

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Post by ConjureMan » Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:39 pm

A tree has a spirit all its own. Some people work with trees and some even call upon trees to remove negativity. This latter is seen in egg spells and bath water that is tossed at a sturdy tree to take the mess off of you. Things are also buried in tree roots to tangle things up and hide them, things are hung on tree branches to protect or draw luck (think blue witch bottles), things are hammered into tree trunks to stop them up. So trees are seen as helpful spirits (Dr. K often mentions how he works with the spirit of trees), as spirits that are deeply rooted and sturdy.

Yet, none of this carries the same power of the crossroads. The crossroads is the meeting place between this and that, here and there, our world and the beyond. That's why such water is tossed into the crossroads.

You can learn more about crossroads in hoodoo here: http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/in ... Crossroads

http://www.luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html#crossroads

and

http://www.luckymojo.com/crossroads.html

To learn how trees are traditionally employed in hoodoo you can read here:

http://www.luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html#tree
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Post by mojojunkie » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:53 am

thanks conjureman. yea actually when cat mentioned people use trees to take off negativity i said to myself "oh thats why eggs are thrown at trees." like i said above im getting away from just reading and trying to get over myself n just experience already...i tend to doubt myself and over analyze but im getting over that as well. thanks again for your reply!!

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Post by Mr Howard » Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:28 pm

We have recently bought a new home which has sat empty for the last 2 years. In the process of deep cleaning the house, meldew etc; we have found 3 packets of assorted herbs with buttons and what appears to be hairs. One packet was wrapped in tin-foil the other 2 were wrapped in cloth. They were all 3 placed up high on the back of shelves in 3 different rooms. Not knowing whether this is someone else's work or attempt at work, what is the best way to dispose of these packets. In addition to these the walls through out the house appear to have what looks like tobacco or snuff spit residue on them in unusual places. Any thoughts? I would appreciate your input.

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Post by Miss Tammie Lee » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:49 pm

Hi and welcome to the forum. I would take them to the crossroads-- away from the home to the city limits.
I would then do a cleansing of that home starting with a White Sage Bundle, Salt, Lucky Mojo Chinese Wash
http://www.luckymojo.com/chinesewash.html
and after you are done cleansing, Lucky Mojo Peaceful home and/or Lucky Mojo Money House Blessing incense
http://www.luckymojo.com/products-house-blessing.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/products-money ... ssing.html
Good luck to you!
PS... I would also want to know about what was "it all about" "and what to expect" and "Do I need Protection right now?" and I would have a reading through the AIRR:
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Post by catherineyronwode » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:49 pm

Great advice, Triplethreat. Thanks!
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Post by Miss Tammie Lee » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:13 pm

Thank you Miss Cat!
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Post by jwmcclin » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:39 pm

I agree...great!
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Post by Mr Howard » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:48 pm

Thanks Triplethreat for your advice. I was already planning to do a cleansing after the heavy duty cleaning is done, I did not want to dilute the effect of the cleansing. So you were ahead of the game in your suggestions on the cleansing. Why Chinese wash over Van Van?
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Post by Miss Tammie Lee » Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:15 pm

http://www.luckymojo.com/vanvan.html
The Lucky Mojo VANVan Spell Kit includes both!
The Van Van choice is EXCELLENT! Good for you!
I have Lucky Mojo VanVan and Chinese Wash and I would NEVER be without either. Here is a declaration (I know what it says about a cleansing for the home... when I shower daily and wash my hair daily I even take a tiny drop work it up and go from head to toe "washing down" get it?-- now people might think this is nuts, but I do it.) I also sip Four thieves Vinegar every morning, but I am very into Protection. (drops) The spell kit for VanVan would be GRAND in this case and again GOOD FOR YOU for having the knowledge and "the get go" and talent to find what is needed in your case! YES to the kit-- because you are indeed correct!
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Post by Miss Tammie Lee » Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:23 pm

Is this an investment property?
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Post by Mr Howard » Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:47 pm

Thanks again. No,this will be a private residence for me, for now.
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Post by 40thblack » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:05 am

Hi, Is there another way to bury or dispose used materials other than the crossroads??? :D :D

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Post by Devi Spring » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:22 am

Depends on the trick. Running water or graveyard are the other two most common options.
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Post by 40thblack » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:36 pm

Thank you Devi Spring

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Post by catherineyronwode » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:43 pm

For a set of general traditional guidelines regarding disposal of ritual remains of all kinds, please see my "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice" web page "Laying Down Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remains" from my free online book "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice:

Laying Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remains in the Hoodoo Tradition
http://luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html

In addition, these are the forum threads that deal with ritual disposals:

Disposal of Spell Kit Remains Questions and Answers
disposal-of-spell-kit-remains-questions ... 12316.html

Disposing of Bath Water and Floor Wash Remains
disposing-of-bath-water-and-floor-wash- ... ml#p120548

Candles: Disposal of Ritual Remains
candles-disposal-of-ritual-remains-t7525.html

Using Leftover Incense Ash in Rootwork
using-leftover-incense-ash-in-rootwork-t24073.html

Good luck!
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Post by maryj020 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:23 am

Good Morning,

Before doing any hoodoo on my own, my friend told me to do a break up ritual, and she told me to bury the bottle in MY BACK YARD, and now I am looking back at this situation and the couple are still together, and I feel ther is some blockage. I am thinking that I buried it in the WRONG PLACE :o . Is it a good idea to digg it up, deploy it elsewhere, and do a cleansing bath, with LM products?

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Post by Miss Bri » Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:28 am

You did indeed get misguidance from your friend. We do not bury negative things in our own backyard--think about all the hatred, anger, and sadness you put into that jar while you made it and worked it--is that the kind of stuff you want hanging in your backyard? No! The proper method of disposal for a break up bottle is to bury it where the couple you wish to break up will step over it everyday--typically close to their front door. There are other methods of disposal as well, but that one is especially effective. For more on proper disposal techniques, please see:
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Post by maryj020 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:12 am

Thank you sooo much, I am buying a shovel today, and do you think I should take a hyossp bath afterwards?

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Post by BlissfullyBastet » Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:10 pm

Hello,
I will be in need to dispose of unused material from my Uncrossing Kit, as stated in the instructions.
My questions is: do I need to removed whatever I did not used from the packets and toss the empty packet in the
trash or do I need to leave the material in the packet for the disposing at the cross-road.

I will appreciate any help.
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Post by ConjureMan » Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:37 pm

You dispose what you used. What's left in packets can be used later. It is the remains that you want to dispose of.
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Post by catherineyronwode » Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:05 pm

Correct. Anything unused can be safely stored for later use.
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Post by BlissfullyBastet » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:03 am

Thank you both for your reply.
The only reason I asked it was because in the instructions for the clean up day it say to disposed of the unused materials
in a white cloth as long with all the other remains.

Thank you again and blessings.

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Post by invizweb » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:31 am

Cat Yronwode wrote specifically on the Look Me Over page that the remains (candle wax, incense ash, etc) be buried in the front yard in front of the house. What if one does not have a front yard?

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Post by catherineyronwode » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:35 am

Well, the idea of burial of the spell kit remains in your front yard is to draw the person toward your home.

So what i would do is to dispose of everything in a nice park, someplace i might wish to visit and hang out with him on a sunny day, or in the front yard of a church where i wished to be married to him, or some such.

But i would also reserve some of my bath water from the rite and splash a little of that across my front door area. You can put a bit in a water bottle and then just "accidentally" spill the bottle out.

You want to mark the approach to your dwelling -- get it?

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Post by starsinthesky7 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:41 am

You can also put the remains in a potted plant, and keep them at the front door, porch, window sill, etc. Make sure you keep the plant alive and well too.
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Post by jwmcclin » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:13 pm

cat and starsnthesky7 gave you some great ideas on ritual disposal, however, have you read this website where cat discusses the Disposal of Ritual Remains in the Hoodoo Tradition (found here http://www.luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html)? Good Read!
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Post by BlissfullyBastet » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:08 pm

hello everyone,

I am feeling a little confused about the disposal of ritual remnants at the cross-roads.
I just read the Laying Down Tricks and disposing of Ritual Remants page.
If I well understood it says "to decrease throw it west, to increase throw it east".

My confusion started because I have been reading a lot in the forum and I have read some estate to throw it east regardless of the purpose of the bath.
I had, not to long ago completed the Uncrossing Kit, and if I well remember it said throw the nwater to the east?????
Did I do this wrong? I have also done 13-herbs and throw the water to east as well, wrong, too??

Could anybody be so kind to help me with this confusion?

I am really new on this, and the uncrossing kit was my first product I have used from LM.
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Post by trish76 » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:37 pm

Hello :)

You may have been on the wrong page because the uncrossing page doesn't have much about laying tricks because it's purpose is the opposite. Here is a link to the Uncrossing spell kit page, where other workers, including cat are giving advice and instruction on how to work this.

uncrossing-spell-kit-questions-and-answ ... 94s30.html

personally, I think I read somewhere else, either in that thread or another, that you throw it over your left shoulder. In any case, that link will be helpful to you.
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Post by BlissfullyBastet » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:52 pm

Thak you trish76,
I believe we are probably be talking of two different pages---- I have also read that page.
But, what I am really talking about is the instructions that comes with the kit itself, not the online instructions.
I am guessing that all my work was in vain. :( and maybe I am going to have to re-do the whole thing again.

Thanks anyway.

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Post by jwmcclin » Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:04 pm

How is your work in vain if you have completed the spellkit and all that's left is disposal? Follow the instructions given or if you feel the need to throw to the West...that is fine as it is appropriate for what you are requesting.

By the way, the links on the web gives the various traditional methods for ritual disposals. cat designed this page because many people take issue with certain types of disposal for example, burial in a graveyard, or burial in an apartment etc etc...
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Post by BlissfullyBastet » Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:53 pm

You know jwmcclin, now that you put it that way---- it really makes sense.
Thanks for posting--- I was feeling a little discouraged, I don't even know why.

I read your response and I was like--- yeah, I remember reading somewhere that some people choose to dispose to the west/east or east/east---
Thank you for your time and effort on making me feel I was making a mistake buy doubting what I have done so far. To removed all the negativity in my life.

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...thats one of my purposes!... ;) Glad I could help!
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Post by Miss Bri » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:42 pm

Proper ritual disposal--especially of bathwater--is one of the hotly contested issues in Conjure :-)
It seems that everyone has been taught a specific way and no two people have been taught the same way. A general rule of thumb and way to think about disposal in terms of East and West though, is in terms of the Sun and its daily arc across the sky. The sun rises in the east--so anything that you want to strengthen and draw more of into your life is represented by that direction. The sun sets in the West so anything that you want to get rid of, let go of, or negatively effect can be worked in that direction. For things like uncrossing you may be instructed to dispose of the water in the east because what is being strengthened is you shiny, new, uncrossed self.
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Post by jwmcclin » Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:47 pm

Great examples Miss Bri!
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Post by catherineyronwode » Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:58 pm

As Bri said, different families and communities hold different traditions. I have heard East more often than West, even by those who wish to remove things. But many people use both East and West, exactly as Miss Bri explained it. The bathtub was simply tipped so that the water flowed in the indicated direction:

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One way i was taught to pray on it, which also will help you remember it, is this,

"As the Sun rises (you have to face to the East to see the Sun rise!), bring my [whatever] to me."

versus

"As the Sun sets (you have to face West to see the Sun set). remove this [whatever[ from me.

When i was told to "Work by day and by night" or to "Pray by day and by night," what was meant -- and what i teach to my students -- is to perform the rite twice a day, one as the sun rises, to draw in the good, and once as the Sun sets, to send away the bad.

For instance, if the issue is money, then "to work by day and by night," you will pray to the East in the morning ("As the Sun rises, bring my money to me") and to the West in the evening ("As the Sun sets, remove this poverty from me").

For a set of general traditional guidelines regarding disposal of ritual remains of all kinds, please see my "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice" web page "Laying Down Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remains" from my free online book "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice:

Laying Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remains in the Hoodoo Tradition
http://luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html

In addition, these are the forum threads that deal with ritual disposals:

Disposal of Spell Kit Remains Questions and Answers
disposal-of-spell-kit-remains-questions ... 12316.html

Disposing of Bath Water and Floor Wash Remains
disposing-of-bath-water-and-floor-wash- ... ml#p120548

Candles: Disposal of Ritual Remains
candles-disposal-of-ritual-remains-t7525.html

Using Leftover Incense Ash in Rootwork
using-leftover-incense-ash-in-rootwork-t24073.html

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Re: Disposal of Ritual Remains Questions and Answers

Post by Thassa » Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:45 am

I live in an area where right now, the ground is frozen, the water ways are frozen and everything is covered with over a foot of snow. Any ideas for disposal of left over spell materials that would be normally buried or thrown into water? I have a vinegar jar that I am done with and need to dispose of and I really don't know what to do with it. Also I want to goofer dust someone and I don't know how I'm going to do that. Maybe mix it with sand? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!

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This topic was discussed in this post (doll-baby,-voodoo-doll,-poppet-question ... 6s150.html)
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Post by Maljen » Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:57 pm

Dump the contents of the jar at a crossroads, then recycle the glass. Goofer dust...maybe a salt/sand mixture. Might melt the snow a bit and the goofer dust might stick more with the wet.
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Post by AMSetti » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:41 am

Hello everyone

I am making food offerings to relatives and loved ones who have passed away on a special table in my home. I know that you aren't supposed to consume food that has been offered to the dead. I was wondering if once their essences have partaken of the food is it alright to simply discard it? I live in an apartment and burying it isn't really an option for me. I wouldn't want to offer it to animals either since it is the food of the dead.

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Post by Devi Spring » Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:12 am

I just place such offering outside for nature to take care of.
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Post by Jaime Banks » Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:48 am

I have a double question concerning the burial process. I live with a family member and I was wondering, because I will soon be getting an apartment. I have a few things buried in the front and back yard of this house I am currently staying in, what would I do if I were to move out and get my own apartment? (i.e. do I leave it there? rebury it in my complex?) also would I be able to live in a 2nd level apartment or would it be better for me to live in a first level for future rituals? (Personal and Helpful advice is most appreciated) THANKS :)
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Post by trish76 » Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:36 am

I'm thinking if you have already completed a spell and buried the ritual remains, there really wouldn't be anything to gain by digging the remains up and transporting them anywhere. I was thinking of it kinda like a garden. If you had a garden, you wouldn't pull the flowers out and try and replant them somewhere else. Wouldn't have the same effect and the plants might actually die. You'd be better off planting a new garden. So when you get to your new apartment, you should just redo the work as needed.
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Post by jwmcclin » Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:10 am

Good example and advice trish76.
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Post by Jaime Banks » Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:25 am

Greeeeat Example! I totally needed that. Now I assume I will need to be on the first level in order me to do the burials since I have the back of the apartment to bury my work. Instead of filling my house with plants. Thanks Again!!! :)
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Post by Jaime Banks » Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:49 am

Okay ummmm....UPDATE:

Bad News. The apartment I am going to be getting soon, umm my friends and family are telling me to NOT get a bottom floor apartment. So with having nice furniture, people may break in. So they want me to take no risks. I'm stuck in getting a 2nd or 3rd floor apartment. So how am I still able to do Burials if I am not on the ground floor?
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Re: Disposal of Ritual Remains Questions and Answers

Post by estar » Sat Jan 01, 2011 3:44 pm

I'm curious about my options for disposing of ritual remains/spell material. I've read the LM pages below regarding and the information on about disposal:
-http://www.luckymojo.com/candlemagic.html
-http://www.luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html


However, the few issues are presented for me given the disposal options. I'm not working on anything right now. There are a few positive spells that I am interested in doing, and few negative that I have tabled for now, but don't want to begin these spells unless I can dispose of the remains appropriately.

Crossroads: Heavily trafficked
My yard: I have nosy neighbors, the yard itself is very public and currently covered in snow
Running water: No local bodies of running water
Graveyards: Only one local graveyard, but it's in front of a heavily trafficked road, gets frequent visitors, and is well maintained (caretakers and visitors would notice a new small mound with a tiny headstone)

Can remains be buried in the soil of a household plant (or outdoor planter), hidden in the structure of a house (e.g. a crack or unfinished wall), flushed down a toilet, or thrown in the trash after a ritual is completed or the results of a spell have been achieved?

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Post by trish76 » Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:13 pm

I believe someone posted about disposal at a croosroads while driving. I mean of course be conscious of where you are and don't throw large objects out of the window while driving. If it's just remants of candle wax or bath water, I think this should be fine. If concerned about being noticed, you could also drive by it at night where at least noone will see what you're disposing of. I live in a fairly large apartment complex and when I need to dispose of something I just do it. You are not performing a ritual out there, just toss and go. You can do it while crossing the street. Sitting and worrying about it, you can always come up with one reason or another why it can't be done.
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Post by trish76 » Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:38 pm

Unless you're moving to a shady area, bottom floor apartments aren't that bad. You could get renter's insurance if necessary. In any case, technically in an aprtment complex, other than your front door and inside your apartment, everything else is really community property. It's not really anyone's personal front yard or backyard per se, so it's not like you can only use it if you live above it instead of directly in front of it. I think as long as the yard is in front of or behind your building, you should be fine. Of course thats just my opinion.
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Post by Jaime Banks » Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:40 pm

Ok. Because I dont wanna end up trespassing on someone elses property. But what else would you suggest? The apartments arent necessarily bad nor ghetto orr hood. Its just that everyone is nosey and observant. I can put latches on my door or bless my new and first place with no bad negative people breakng into my propertyy. Or get a Protection Kit. Or bless a new home kit. What else would you have in mind? I'm kinda lost Trish?
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Post by Seph » Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:20 pm

When you offer food to a saint, loa, deva, etc. do you eat it after a period of time or throw it out, and if the latter, how? The bourbon and rum are no matter as they are consumed (evaporate) quickly. But cake, fruit, honey, etc. linger and become a nuisance. I'd also rather not keep dead flowers around on my altar. When the petition has been granted, shouldn't the artifacts of the work all just be gotten rid of?

I've heard some say that eating it is tantamount to taking it back, but how does that differ from throwing it out?

And in Catholic/Orthodox Christianity the bread and wine are first offered, and when consecrated, consumed. Likewise, in Hinduism the food is first offered, and when prasadam, consumed.

Then there are the remains of numerous burnt candles. Sometimes they burn cleanly so that nothing remains. Other times they make a mess and run. For some kinds of work, it should be tossed in the river on in an intersection, but certainly not for everything. What then?

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Post by jwmcclin » Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:32 pm

I cannot say it better than how cat worded the reasons for ritual disposal, "Because hoodoo is a form of "natural magic," one of its axioms is that the herbs, roots, minerals, and other items used in root-work are themselves inherently powerful, rather than having to be "consecrated," "empowered" or "charged" with energy in the neo-pagan manner. For this reason it is also very important in the hoodoo tradition to properly dispose of any material remnants that are left over after a spell has been cast, a mojo hand has been created, or a trick has been laid."

With that said, offering of food items can be fed to the birds or another environmentally friendly method of disposal. And it is not 'gotten rid of' it is a ritual disposal. FYI Laying Down Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remnants in the Hoodoo Tradition http://www.luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html I hope this helps, if you have additional questions, please return to this post and inquire. (I renamed your topic for clarity)
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