How to Use Lucky Mojo Magical Herbs, Roots, Seeds, Flowers Questions and Answers

broomhilda · Unread post by **broomhilda** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:42 pm

Thank you so much! I ordered the book this evening, and I can't wait for it to arrive.

I also want to thank you for your radio show I have learned so much in the short time I have been listening. I can't wait for the next show.

MojoMama · Unread post by **MojoMama** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:54 pm

Hello,

I'm in Western Colorado, and I would like to grow a few hoodoo herbs in pots. What would you recommend I start with? I'm thinking about 10 different herbs to start with. Also, where should I go to get them?

Thanks!

snake · Unread post by **snake** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:33 pm

I'm a magical gardener in CA, and I really love growing my own magical herbs. I don't know how much advice you'll find in this forum about where to buy seeds or seedlings, but you should flip through your copy of Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic to see which plants that you know grow locally have magical properties.

MojoMama · Unread post by **MojoMama** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:58 pm

Thanks, Snake... thing is, I'm a "transplant" myself from the South. Things I used to be able to go out into the woods and gather (poke berries, maypops, and the like) aren't out here. However, I find desert sage a plenty, and on occasions, white sage. Sometimes, I find lavendar as well, but other than that, I'm not sure what plants are around here. I was thinking about growing in pots to start with, so they can be brought inside when needed.

fleegle · Unread post by **fleegle** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:48 am

Does anyone know where to get the seed to grow the plant high John the. Conquerer root comes from? I asked this in another post and it was deleted for being unrelated. I hope it fits in this one. I've looked everywhere and emailed the site customer service, but so far nada.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:50 am

If you get Miss Cat's book Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic, it lists the Latin botanical names of all the conjure herbs, which will be very helpful when starting a garden.

Unread post by **aura** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:28 am

Hi fleegle,

although I am still waiting for Miss Cat's book (which as Devi Spring suggested is probably your best source of information) I did do a bit of rooting (

pardon the pun!) around on the internet and found a couple of tidbits which might answer your question:

on Wikipedia there is an extensive article on John the Conqueror which not only covers the herb/root but also the legend, related herbs such as low John and chewing John and offers a multitude of blues lyrics related to the subject. Surprise surprise! (NOT!) the main reference for the information in question is Miss Cat's book

If it's ur first attempt at gardening: I suggest starting small (3 herbs x 3 plants / herb) out of which you keep the strongest ones and nurture them throughout growth with your intentions. Perennials are also a smart start since they generally (although not always) require less ''pampering'' than annuals.

Hope it helps!

[Ophelia] · Unread post by **[Ophelia]** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:26 pm

Sorry if this is the wrong place for this question (feel free to tell me off!

) but... How would I go about drying herbs in the miserable English climate? Many thanks.

MojoMama · Unread post by **MojoMama** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:57 pm

Ophelia,

The English climate is not that unlike the climate in the American South, which is also very damp and humid. If you use gas or wood heat in the Winter, herbs can be hung over the register to dry. I have heard in the case of flowering herbs such as lavendar, it is best to place a brown paper sack over them to catch the flowers as they fall off. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong

Unread post by **aura** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:21 am

Hi Ophelia,

I agree with MojoMama's suggestions: particularly given that if there's any way to avoid the last resorts (mechanical means) I'm about to suggest - do it! If however you've tried everything and your herbs are still collecting mildew and rot rather than fine smells, there are two last ditch solutions:

1 - herbs can be dried using a food dehydrator. Given the means is a little impersonal to my taste, perhaps an experienced rootworker would be able to suggest the most appropriate way to ''personalize'' the method

2 - only in case of direst need: an oven at very low heat or a microwave (

I'm embarassed to even be mentioning a microwave...) can be used. this method can scorch or burn your herbs however. furthermore, just like cooking destroys some of the essential nutrients in the food we eat - it will do the same to the herbs.

Good Luck! Please do share the results of your drying efforts

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:07 am

aura wrote:Hi Ophelia,

1 - herbs can be dried using a food dehydrator. Given the means is a little impersonal to my taste, perhaps an experienced rootworker would be able to suggest the most appropriate way to ''personalize'' the method

A food dehydrator is a fine method, and how LuckyMojo drys a lot of their herbs if I recall correctly. I'm not at all sure what you mean by "personalize"...

aura wrote:2 - only in case of direst need: an oven at very low heat

There is no reason this method should be saved for "direst need". I will say however that a lot of the time the pilot light on a gas oven is enough to dry many herbs so I suggest only using that unless you are sure that your oven can hold a steady and very low heat.

aura wrote: or a microwave ( I'm embarrassed to even be mentioning a microwave...) can be used

Don't be embarrassed, its a great method when you need a small amount of herbs dried immediately, tho it can be tricky to get it right and not cook them.

You seem to have the idea that drying herbs in any but the most old ways is somehow wrong, and that just ain't so. Hope this helps

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:54 am

In addition to the issue of cooking rather than dehydrating the herbs, drying herbs in a microwave is ridiculously energy-wasteful and should never be considered a reasonable solution.

I strongly and adamantly DIS-agree with turnsteel that when you reject a microwave for herb dehydration, "You" [in his words] "seem to have the idea that drying herbs in any but the most old ways is somehow wrong."

This is NOT about "the old ways" versus "the new ways." It is about efficiency versus inefficiency and about good results versus poor results.

No, to me you seem to be saying -- and i am affirming, with 50 years of experience growing and drying herbs, first with my mother and then as an adult, both on a small-scale and a production basis -- that dehydration of herbs by microwave is generally a bad idea because the results are inferior and the waste of energy is unconscionable.

And what is so "new" about microwaves, anyway? The first commercial microwave ovens were produced in 1947, and by 1975 microwave sales exceeded conventional oven sales. Yet despite their popularity for cooking moist foods, microwaves have never been used for home or commercial herb dehydration for the simple reason that microwaving of herbs is both an INFERIOR METHOD and a STUPIDLY COSTLY way to dry them.

Yes, microwave herb dehydration can be done in an emergency -- and i myself have used it thus -- but you need to hit the herbs repeatedly with 15 second bursts, and move and turn them in between each burst, and even then, if they are moist-type herbs, you will be very hard-pressed not to cook them and thus to ruin them.

If microwave ovens were so dang good as herb dryers, don't you think that after 60-some years on the market they would have become really popular for drying herbs? Well, they have NOT become popular for drying herbs, and now you know why.

Dry your herbs with solar power, or through use of excess cooking heat by hanging them in trays about your kitchen stove, or with excess room-heater heat, or in a production-level food dehydrator with a fan in back.

i don't understand what Aura means by stating, "perhaps an experienced rootworker would be able to suggest the most appropriate way to ''personalize' the method" of using a food dehydrator. Aura, a food dehydrator is a very efficient tool. Why would i need to "personalize" my method of using it? My relationship is with the HERBS, not with some mass-produced stainless steel drying machine with a fan in the back.

(For the record, i also don't "personalize" my method of using my stainless steel mixing bowls, my cobalt blue bottles, my flint glass bottles, my brass scales, my aluminum feed scoops, my Tyler standard sieves, my white plastic five-gallon buckets, my shovels, my rakes, my Felco clippers, my Wiss scissors, or my recycled paper brown towels. I just use them the same way any gardener, herbalist, or pharmacist would -- carefully, with respect, and in a manner intended to extend their years of usefulness,)

This topic thread started out with inquiries from Lucky Mojo's herbally wise gardening customers about which plants we would purchase if folks grew them, but it turned into a discussion of how to locate other suppliers, and now it is about how to flat-out avoid buying herbs from us! I have had to delete repeated off-links to other suppliers and to correct inaccurate information. The discussion is no longer serving my customers, nor is it serving me as an herb grower, herb purchaser, and co-proprietor of the shop that runs this forum. I am locking it now.

peggy · Unread post by **peggy** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:15 pm

HELLO EVERYONE I WAS JUST WONDERING

1. CAN YOU BOIL FIVE FINGER GRASS, VERBENA HERB, OR DEVIL SHOE STRING AS A TEA TO DRINK -- WOULD THESE HARM YOU?

2. AND IF YOU JUST BOIL THE HERBS ON THE STOVE WOULD THE STEAM BE BENEFICIAL?

THANKS

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:58 pm

Hi, Peggy.

Please turn off your CAPS LOCK. It is very difficult for me to read text in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS. Thanks!

1) Many magical herbs make wonderful and healthful teas, but not all of them. Some herbs are toxic. Lucky Mojo herbs are food-grade in quality, and those we grow ourselves are organically grown or wildcrafted without pesticides -- but still, i repeat, not all herbs are edible -- and of those that are edible, some are very bitter and would not make a flaourful tea. That being said -- here is a link to a list of edible herbs that are used in magic:
http://www.luckymojo.com/conjurecookoffherblist.html

2. Steaming herbs and breathing the vapour is an excellent alternative to burning incense, and the boiled herbs may, in many cases, also me used as an addition to a magical bath. Againl, not all herbs are skin-safe, so dilute, silute -- and know your herbs before you bath in them.

Good luck!

coyalxauhqui · Unread post by **coyalxauhqui** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:34 pm

Hi all -

I was wondering: do pieces of turtle shell have any place in hoodoo? I've never seen them mentioned, but at the same time, I don't see why they wouldn't have a purpose! I have a red-eared slider turtle and she regularly sheds scutes (aka a whole "tile" layer of her shell comes off in one piece - it's pretty cool!) and if they're gonna be useful, I want to collect them.

Thanks!

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:39 pm

Live river turtles -- cooters -- are employed in hoodoo spells. I have never heard of anyone using turtle shells, however.

Read about how live turtles p;ay a part in conjure in my book "Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic."

Good luck.

MojoMama · Unread post by **MojoMama** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:07 pm

I was just given a 1 lb bag of what I am told is Jerusalem root. Does anyone know about this or its possible uses in hoodoo? With a name like Jerusalem root, there's gotta be some use for it, lol. I looked in Ms. Cat's green book, but couldnt find it.

Thanks!

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:46 pm

To my knowledge Lucky Mojo doesn't carry Jerusalem root. It is a violation of forum rules to promote products not related to Lucky Mojo. As you know, this forum is an extension of the Lucky Mojo Curio Company and is not an appropriate venue for the advertising of other companies, web sites, businesses or services.

MojoMama · Unread post by **MojoMama** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:53 pm

I wasn't advertizing or promoting anyone else's site. A friend at work gave me some, and I'm just asking what to do with it; what it could be used for. I'm not trying to mess with anyone's business, not step on any toes. I've got some on hand, and it's gotta be useful for something. She got it through an organic food co-op (one of those you get a box of various stuff a month) and doesn't have a use for it. The way I was raised, if Spirit gives you something, it's for a reason, and I'm trying to suss out what that reason is.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:11 pm

Jerusalem Root, also called Jerusalem Artichoke and Sun 'Choke is an edible root from a member of the Sunflower family, and not related to Artichokes, despite the name. It is just a food, not considered magical. It is considered especially good food for diabetics, as it is low in carbohydrates and sugars. I used to grow it when i lived in Missouri -- it's okay with butter on it -- not like a potato, not like an artichoke, not like a parnsip or a turnip -- just its own very simple root-tasting root.

I am glad you consulted my book -- but it wasn't there because it's not considered a magical substance.

Folks unfamiliar with the "green book" mentioned above and who have questions about "the use of this or that botanical, mineral, or zoological item in hoodoo" -- one good way to learn more is to consult my book "Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic." It probably doesn't list everything -- but there are 500 items listed, many more than we sell in the shop. For a one-time investment of $14.95, that book will supply you with a LOT of information, as others here will testify.

Good luck!

MojoMama · Unread post by **MojoMama** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:55 pm

Thank you, Miss Cat. Does the Jerusalem root typically have that many nobby bits on the side (I'm assuming sprouts?) Because what I have doesn't. The coworker that gave them to me first thought they were ginger, but then saw a cooking thing on Jerusalem root and thought that's what they were (the co-op was kind enough not to label it, lol). I haven't cut into one yet to see. It's been years since I've used ginger root, and that was just to make homemade ginger ale.

Unread post by **Miss Ida Lundin** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:57 am

Sounds like ginger. You could tell by the scent if you cut into one.

Artaynia · Unread post by **Artaynia** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:11 pm

When placing herbs behind someones picture should the herbs? be held in foil?

I have mine in a plastic sachet behind a picture. I dont no if I should place protective herbs in the foil instead but I dont want to reverse the effect if I transfer it from the platic to the foil.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:15 pm

No such thing as 'reversing the effect.' by placing it in a different container. I do not personally like plastic for holding ritual items; so I understand your wanting to change it. I try to select appropriate containers like a mojo bag or a special container. The use of foil in spell work was discussed in these two posts...
foil-usage-in-freezer-spells--t4303.html
can-candles-be-set-on-foil-or-wax-paper--t12116.html

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:25 pm

Thank you for that quick answer jwmcclin! Also for the links! Helpful!

-Joseph M.

Artaynia · Unread post by **Artaynia** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:48 pm

Thanks for the information and the links.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:19 pm

You two are quite welcomed, we are here to help when needed.

2jazzy · Unread post by **2jazzy** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:55 am

If the Orange flower you need is not readily available is it ok to use a orange root from the orange tree?

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:04 am

HI Jazzy,
I would say no and here is why. Orange flowers are used in love, attraction, and marriage work. Why? Because they have a long history of being incorporated into festivals and rites celebrating love, marriage, and fertility. Oranges have also been associated with the Sun thus symbolizing all of the positive energy of that star. But the flower is the specific part of the plant that is used in the above types of work (and I am assuming you are working on a ritual along those lines) so the root would not be a suitable substitute. A different flower, herb, or root that has similar associations would be a better choice.
Blessings,
Bri

2jazzy · Unread post by **2jazzy** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:00 pm

Thanks so much. I appreciate that very much

mysticguy · Unread post by **mysticguy** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:52 am

I don't know if this is true or not, but I heard someone one mentioned that gunpowder helps add a bang or some extra power to speed things up in spells. I know its have to be handled with care.

I was wondering if it's possible to use gun powder for spells like money, love, reconciliation, domination, breakup, road opening and jinx removing?

Can a pinch of gunpowder be added in oils, jars, incenses or vigil glass candles?

Can someone explain what gunpowder is used for?

What should gun powder should be kept in and stored in?

How gunpowder is best used?

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:05 pm

Gun Powder can be used in spells that involves volatile effects like breakup work. Therefore, I wouldn't use it in any of the spells except for jinxing. cat explains it further here...http://www.luckymojo.com/saltpeter.html

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:43 pm

mysticguy wrote:Can a pinch of gunpowder be added in oils, jars, incenses or vigil glass candles?

Oils,yes, jar spells, sure, Incense or candles? Heck no! Its gunpowder! Do not put it into candle spells or incense

mysticguy wrote:I was wondering if it's possible to use gun powder for spells like money, love, reconciliation, domination, breakup, road opening and jinx removing?

I've seen it used in money spells, break up spells, some cleansing spells and lots of road opening work, but I personally cannot recall a love spell or domination spell using it.

mysticguy wrote: Can someone explain what gunpowder is used for?

It brings power and speed to spells as I said, think about it, its an explosive, it's not hard to figure out what kind of energy it brings to a spell. Now this does not mean that you should add gunpowder to every job you do. Their are plenty of cases where it should be avoided, blessings and gentle work for example. Really I suggest that people who are starting out leave it alone.

mysticguy wrote:What should gun powder should be kept in and stored in?

The container that you buy it in. As a side line, I strongly council against making your own gunpowder. It's very dangerous to make if you do not know what you are doing, it's more likely to blow up in your face if you make it yourself.

jwmcclin wrote:Gun Powder can be used in spells that involves volatile effects like breakup work. Therefore, I wouldn't use it in any of the spells except for jinxing.

I must respectfully disagree jwmcclin. I was taught, and have had great success, to use Gun Powder in many kinds of work besides a jinx. It can bring a lot of speed and power to a spell. I personally use it fairly often for heavy duty Road Opening work, and Money Drawing work.

mysticguy · Unread post by **mysticguy** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:21 pm

Thank you for your replies. Reason why I asked someone posted on here they put a pinch in a candle awhile back.

Is it possible to pot a pinch of gunpowder in like road opener, fast luck or uncrossing oils and anoint your hands and dress a vigil candle with?

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:26 pm

Remember the purpose of Gunpowder...adding heat to it (picture that) read the link above cat gives ideas or substitutions if you are wanting to use it in Road opening, Fast Luck type work...

lajolli79 · Unread post by **lajolli79** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:29 am

This is a great post thank you for sharing all this information.

Jane2011 · Unread post by **Jane2011** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:54 pm

Hi, Can someone help with this query? Last year May, my Partner bought me a Asiatic Lily plant, which grew and blossomed into beautiful flowers. My relationship with my partner ended quite abrubtly in July and at the same time I noticed the plant he had given me was slowly dying. I then put the plant outside on my balcony and last week I was surprised to see that the plant had come back to life and is growing quite rapidly...and, my Ex-partner seem to be wanting to get closer in our frindship again. Is there a spiritual connection with the plant and our relationship? Many Thanks

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:10 pm

There may be a connection, but don't read too much into it -- Many species of lily plants go dormant every year, and to an inexperienced gardener it may look like they are dying. If watered, they come back next year, and every year for many years.

Jane2011 · Unread post by **Jane2011** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:39 pm

Hi Catherineyronwode. I see. I had not realise that this particular plant dies and grow back every year. Many thanks for the info. Peace, Love and Light.

Jane2011 · Unread post by **Jane2011** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:00 am

Hello

Last year after the break up of my relationship with my partner, I had lit a candle with a written parchment paper underneath with both our names on and a petition. After the candle burnt out it also burnt the parchment paper so I buried the parchment paper in a money plant that I had previously planted myself. Since then my money plant has been growing beautifully.

Of late, I have been asking the money plant questions regarding my relationship with my Ex-partnter using a pendulum. So far it has been giving me positive answers.

Is it okay to use the pendulum with my money plant? Also, I have noticed that my Ex-partner is getting a bit more closer to me in our friendship.

Peace, Love and Light

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:17 am

Jane, working with living plants -- that is, casting spells by means of plants that are still alive or using them as a form of communication with others -- is quite common in hoodoo. Some species are more often used this way than others. For more details, see my book, "Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic."

Jane2011 · Unread post by **Jane2011** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:06 pm

Many Thanks Catherine.

heartexalted · Unread post by **heartexalted** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:52 pm

Mulling spices, as I'm sure most of us are aware, contain things like cinnamon, cloves, nutmeg, allspice, sometimes cardamom, etc. These spices, of course, have various magical properties, as indicated in sources such as this website. I was just wondering if anyone had any clue as to whether the preparation and drinking of spiced cider has any origin in folk magical practices -- and why one would be compelled to drink it during the winter, in particular? (Besides the obvious, counteracting the cold weather.)

Most of the herbs common to mulling spices seem to deal with money and luck...

rs2010 · Unread post by **rs2010** » Mon May 09, 2011 9:24 pm

I was curious if anyone knew or could maybe tell me if Mockingbirds were related to Hoodoo?
I had a few I saw come into my sight and stay there as it was waiting on me to acknowledge it then flew off.
I have been working with money drawing products and I was curious if it might be a good sign.
Since I know sometimes other birds may not be good signs. I was curious is all.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Tue May 10, 2011 7:34 pm

Mockingbirds are indeed mentioned in conjure tricks. They represent speech, for obvious reasons.

And get this:

The 2011 Hoodoo Food! Coookbook is now available.

Yes, friends, the Ladies Auxiliary is back -- with the second annual Conjure Cook-Off and Rootwork Recipe Round-Up cookbook featuring magical foods from contributors all around the country. We know you will want to prepare and sample these brand new taste-treats that incorporate hoodoo-style herbs and spices traditionally used in spells for enhancing romance, promoting prosperity, attracting abundance, and providing protection. Even if the ingredients were not magical -- Hoodoo Food is mmmmm, sooooo good!

INDEX

Adam and Eve Love Salad 8
Aioli, the Protective Mayonaisse 3
Anise Overnight Dream Cookies 12
Catfish Work Against a Love Rival 4
Celtic Scottish Harmonious Office Shortbread 6
Four Thieves Vinegar BBQ Sauce 9
Golden Fortune Corn Fritters 13
Granny’s Magical Miracle Mashed Potato Salad 10
Honey Cake to Sweeten Business Associates 7
Kiss Me Now Balls 2
Lovin’ in the Oven Lasagna 14
Miss Bri’s Fiery Wall of Protection Lentils 11
Momma Hen’s Passion Punch 15
One Pot Protection 16
The Secret Language of Chocolate Candy Fillings 8
The Secret Language of Edible Flowers in Salads 10

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Tue May 10, 2011 9:26 pm

Read Harry M. Hyatt's page (found here) http://www.luckymojo.com/hyattinformants.html, you will find discussion and spells that include the mockingbird.

sacred healing · Unread post by **sacred healing** » Sun May 15, 2011 10:18 am

is there any significance to using black spiders in conjure work

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun May 15, 2011 11:16 am

Miss cat wrote about it here http://www.luckymojo.com/spider.html

Crankyfish · Unread post by **Crankyfish** » Wed May 25, 2011 1:13 pm

Hi all I'm a newb to hoodoo,I love this forum and website though! I can't wait for my first orders

Is there a creative way to utilize contained moving water for magical workings? I have some new filters and fishless tanks that I'd like to put to good use. From my understanding, you usually use moving water to flush away a factor in your workings. Perhaps contained water would be good in a 'change this negative to a positive' or visa versa, annointing the tank with oil and herbs in the filter, then burning the filter cartridge after 7 days or what have you.

Looking forward to your ideas!
CF

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Wed May 25, 2011 10:22 pm

Your question comes under the heading i call, "Is there a use for X in hoodoo?" and, generally, the answer would appear to be no. Folks want to know if there is a use for this that or the other because they like the things or have the things around.

But let's look at what hoodoo is -- and is not.

It is not a set of building blocks. It is a living family-based and community based tradition.

You cannot say, "Hey, guys, how about if we add aquariums to hoodoo, okay?" and get folks to agree, because, frankly, aquariums are not a long-held part and portion of the culture in which hoodoo is based or the natural world which informs all of folk magic.

Moving water spells are derived from the nature of moving water. People long ago learned the power inherent in tagging one's spell along to a natural force. Trying to invert that idea and place a lot of magical power on the act of changing a filter in an aquarium sounds silly to me. I mean, sure, if aquariums are really dear to you and you know them inside and out, perhaps you could use the power of changing filters to change a situation... but at that level of metaphor, i think you would be more or less making a stretch into something unique, not community-based, not family-based, not culturally embedded.

Perhaps you are working from the standpoint of chaos magick, the old mix-and-match let's-make-a-spell thing. You know -- "Hey, there's an old World War Two bomber in a park in my town, can i use it in magic?" or "I have a set of Mary Engelbreit tea pots on a shelf -- can i use them in magic!" Chaos magick is okay in is own right, but it ain't conjure.

Crankyfish · Unread post by **Crankyfish** » Thu May 26, 2011 6:32 am

Ahhh that makes sense Catherine...Thank you for clarifying.

I won't be mixing them with any hoodoo at all, I want what I do
to stay true to the source for max potency.

gremlin · Unread post by **gremlin** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:45 pm

I was sifting through my conjure notes I had taken down whilst learning from my mentor. I came across this little number, as I recall I conveyed an interest toward environmental manipulation while learning that’s how I received this one.

I have to apologize as the wording may be a bit off but the paper I had this written on was accidently left in a box outside during a storm. Some of this is direct quotation while other parts I wrote from memory. But either way this should be a interesting piece of info for you all!!

Beforehand take a piece of string (the size depends on the plant you will be working with) dip it with controlling oil as you close your eyes and say inwardly:

By the powers vested in me and the forces that are without, I ask this string to be the spiritual link from my world to yours. Amen.

Cut the string exactly in half. Store one end in a dark area away from all other energy sources (light, heat, ect) or other hoodoo items as well.

Keep the other end with you.

At dusk go to the establishment you wish to be under your influence. Find the nearest seed producing vegetation by the building or establishment.Extract a few of the seeds (the more seeds the better as you know not all seeds will germinate). Dig the plant up gently as not to disturb the roots too much very LIGHTLY dust the hole with controlling powder and pulverized tobacco. Place a White candle into the hole (making sure it stands upright) light this and say outwardly:

As nature is connected by time and space. My mind, heart and soul are one with them. May the string tie this plant (as you tie the half of string around the plant) to its offspring, by doing so may it in turn tie the existence of __(such and such establishment)___ to it existence as well. Extinguish the flame and collect the candle. Replace the plant but keep the original dirt that was removed. Use new dirt to fill in the hole. The ritual is finalized as you leave tossing some of the remnants of the tobacco and powder mix over your head into the air (this part is important as the dust goes into the air and not the ground).

Return to your home or wherever you plan on planting the seeds. At dawn plant the seeds using the dirt from the original parent plant mixed with a very small amount of tobacco and controlling powder. Light the same candle used before and say outwardly: The seeds of connection have been planted, grow well and grow steady and as you grow may your connection to your parent grow as well.

Extinguish the candle.

When the first sprout is seen it is taken careful note of as that’s the one that will be used in the final spell.

When it’s matured the other half of the string is tied around it as you say: I now bind the power of the soil you grow in to the power of the soil that you were created from. The plant now acts as a spiritual link to the establishment from which you took it from. Whatever is done to the plant in ritual will convey over to the place which you took it from on a more ambiguous but much larger scale.

If I recall correctly this was used as a way to either bless or curse a specific area of land to bring about or attract very very bad happenings or very very good ones depending on the rituals used incorporating it. Also I did not write it down but I remember my teacher telling me this becomes much much stronger when you place a small representation of the establishment around the plant.

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:21 am

This is nice--it strikes me as a blend of old fashioned Hoodoo with some new age aspects thrown in (the use of the word "energy" and some of the more formal ritual language).
Thanks for sharing!
Blessings,
Bri

Donnalee2 · Unread post by **Donnalee2** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:18 pm

Dear Gremlin, This is a very spiritual connection to generational Magic. I love it. I will use this. Thank you for sharing.Blessings always
donnalee

TresIsIs · Unread post by **TresIsIs** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:46 am

I am a self taught herbalist, I love herbs and herbal teas. I know there medicinal properties of herbs and now that I am studying Hoodoo, I am learning the magical properties. I wanted to try my hand at it to know my magic.

I purchased herbs after careful study and perusing the herb-magic site. I have solomon seal root, alkanet, boldo leaf, fumitory, alfalfa, sassafras, thyme, peony root and others.

I am considering order a prepared money drawing bag to give me a boost. I plan on getting a whole queen elizabeth root, ginger, cleo may oil, bewitchingoil, and others when I have successful worked my magic. I am going to order a lot. I am writing down scriptures, affirmation, and psalms as well as clearing a space for Money drawing. I have money drawing bath ingredients from Scott Cunningham's book.

I read that one should soak love drawing herbs in Florida water before use to bring out the ashe.

I wanted to know if herbs must be ground to powder with a mortar and pestle or should I just going to use my coffee grinder because I need to work this money magic during the full moon.

I must set up a regimen to fortify my aura with money magnet energy. I was considering formulating a money drawing diet of greens and more greens to enhance the electromagnetic pull of my being on a cellular level.

I think 21 days is customary to see results or benefit for a new behavior.

Thanks for your suggestions.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:00 am

TresIsIs,

Ashe is an African concept meaning the power of nature. Herbs do not need to be soaked in Florida Water; they are powerful as God made them.

Scott Cunningham's book is on the subject of Neo-Pagan or Wiccan herb usage and methods. There are some similar and shared usages in hoodoo -- and some differences as well.

I'd suggest that you get a copy of Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic by catherine yronwode. (The owner of Lucky Mojo and this website)

She also wrote this book for herbal practitioners who want to garden with magical, medical, culinary, and decorative plants -- "The California Gardener's Book of Lists." It came out in the 1990s -- but copies are still in stock in the Lucky Mojo shop -- it lists herbs, flowers, trees, bulbs, and vegetables by California micro-zones and by preferred light and water conditions.

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Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:12 am

I agree with Mama Micki, purchase (http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodooherbmagic.html) cat's book Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic; also listed here are excerpts from the book.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:37 pm

I'm with the above posters. Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic is the way to go to learn how to work with herbs and roots in *Hoodoo.* Cunningham's book is derived from other traditions.

In conjure we use herbs whole, ground up into powders, and in a variety of ways and now we don't need anything other than prayer and the herbs themselves to bring out their power.

keysha · Unread post by **keysha** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:16 am

I saw an interesting herb/plant Devils Claw and one named Devils Club. Has anyone used Devils claw in rootwork? If so, how is it used?

Unread post by **dorothybaez** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:01 pm

I have searched the site as well as the net, and have found nothing on the use of shrimp in rootwork. I've been told that they can be used for dark work, but the person who told me this didn't know anything more. Anybody know anything about this? Thanks!