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I was reading an article on Victory Gardens from 1944 and thought how such an idea might apply to hoodoo. Victory Gardens were plots of private or public land used to grow vegetables and herbs in order to supplement national shortages. At their height, they were responsible for growing roughly 40% of the vegetables consumed in the U.S.
Anyway, I know that at least a few of the herbs we use are threatened or endangered, and to the general public they have no use as medicinal or aesthetic plants (though this is certainly not always the case). Pharmacies, candle shops, etc. are surely on the decline, and without shops like Lucky Mojo and people like Cat, larger portions of this knowledge would already be lost. Education will increase the demand for these products, which may keep them profitable to some companies, but I think more community-grown curios would be a good PLAN B, similar in idea to the small farms started in order to save naturally seeded banana trees.
For those of us capable and willing, what could be grown by the rootworker to either increase shops' supplies or for personal/community use?
Anyway, I know that at least a few of the herbs we use are threatened or endangered, and to the general public they have no use as medicinal or aesthetic plants (though this is certainly not always the case). Pharmacies, candle shops, etc. are surely on the decline, and without shops like Lucky Mojo and people like Cat, larger portions of this knowledge would already be lost. Education will increase the demand for these products, which may keep them profitable to some companies, but I think more community-grown curios would be a good PLAN B, similar in idea to the small farms started in order to save naturally seeded banana trees.
For those of us capable and willing, what could be grown by the rootworker to either increase shops' supplies or for personal/community use?
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What a great question!
Here's what i would grow in a Hoodoo Victory Garden.
Most requested: Devil's Bit root. It's common Scabious! Easy to grow where there is summer water, not a great choice for those who must irrigate. I would buy the whole dried roots in quantity for the shop.
Second most requested: Poppy Flower petals. They must be the red Poppies, and well dried. We used to have a great source for these, but she quit growing them, so we had to discontinue carrying this valuable herb. Recently we found another source. Hurray.
Third most requested: Patchouli root: Used to be commercially available, but somehow along the way it went missing and then some joker began indiscriminately substituting Lemon Grass or Vetiver root for it (not even in the same family!!!), and that was the end of that. Not for sale anywhere in the world now, as far as i know.
There are others. If you are serious about growing, call the shop and ask to speak to me.
Here's what i would grow in a Hoodoo Victory Garden.
Most requested: Devil's Bit root. It's common Scabious! Easy to grow where there is summer water, not a great choice for those who must irrigate. I would buy the whole dried roots in quantity for the shop.
Second most requested: Poppy Flower petals. They must be the red Poppies, and well dried. We used to have a great source for these, but she quit growing them, so we had to discontinue carrying this valuable herb. Recently we found another source. Hurray.
Third most requested: Patchouli root: Used to be commercially available, but somehow along the way it went missing and then some joker began indiscriminately substituting Lemon Grass or Vetiver root for it (not even in the same family!!!), and that was the end of that. Not for sale anywhere in the world now, as far as i know.
There are others. If you are serious about growing, call the shop and ask to speak to me.
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This is a great idea. My husband and i have been dreaming about creating a magical garden when we get a house. choosing to include species that need to be saved could be an important part of the garden design.
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I am serious about growing. I don't know on how large a scale, but my wife and have grown various things everywhere we've ever lived. Once I deploy back to the States, I will PCS to an as-yet-undetermined new fort though, so it might be a while before I have a place to garden again. I'll let you know when I'm settled!
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Does the species of poppy matter? Or only the colour red? Poppies grow beautifully in this climate, and I really love them, so drying the petals would not be a problem if it might help someone else out. Let me see if I can get a plot started - always glad for an excuse to garden!
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Well, truth to tell, the Opium Poppies are the best, because they are the most ... confusing, as it were. Any Poppy should do, though -- but the petals must be Poppy-Red. I would love to get a source back; they are very popular, and we have had none in stock for about a year now.
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Hi, I was wondering if anyone knew where I vould get a whole Devil's Bit Root. I couldn't find it in the Lucky Mojo Curio Company.
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I remember that as being one of the herbs miss cat recommended for "victory gardening" -- for those interested, it's her most requested herb for which she has no grower and thus cannot carry in the shop.
Depending on where you live, it may be easier to grow them yourself from seed (or try a nursery this spring to see if they are offered with the perennials). Pincushion flower is a short-lived perennial, so it may be with annuals or perennials.
Depending on where you live, it may be easier to grow them yourself from seed (or try a nursery this spring to see if they are offered with the perennials). Pincushion flower is a short-lived perennial, so it may be with annuals or perennials.
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EDIT: Drat! Beaten again.
Sorry, I don't know where to find Devil's Bit. It was Miss Cat's most requested herb in the Hoodoo Victory Garden thread.
According to the USDA, it can be found in the wild in Massachusetts and Rhode Island in the U.S.

Sorry, I don't know where to find Devil's Bit. It was Miss Cat's most requested herb in the Hoodoo Victory Garden thread.
According to the USDA, it can be found in the wild in Massachusetts and Rhode Island in the U.S.
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Devil's Bit is endangered here in massachusetts.
it likes acidic moist soil. i live on a lake surrounded by pine, oak, maple and birch.
i think i will find some seeds and encourage re-forestation (not quite right).
as it doesn't flower every year this plant has a hard time reproducing.
nasmaste.
it likes acidic moist soil. i live on a lake surrounded by pine, oak, maple and birch.
i think i will find some seeds and encourage re-forestation (not quite right).
as it doesn't flower every year this plant has a hard time reproducing.
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Oo! I have been trying to find some interesting and useful plants to grow in my garden. I'll try my hand at growing some of these. I have a friend with enormous amounts of poppies, so that shouldn't be a problem.
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Hi all,
After several hours of scouring websites (I am a data analyst by day!), I have not located Devil's Bit root or Scabiosa, Succisa pratensis, for sale in root form.
That being said, I notice others have stated to grow it yourself.
Scabiosa is mostly native to the UK but UK sites cannot ship plant products like seeds to the USA due to USDA regulations...remember when you go through customs and they ask if you have plant products?
On the bright side, there are also US companies from which you can purchase seeds.
Happy gardening! I realise how lucky I am to have plenty of space for a garden, the hard part is keeping my horses from munching! It's harder than you think!
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After several hours of scouring websites (I am a data analyst by day!), I have not located Devil's Bit root or Scabiosa, Succisa pratensis, for sale in root form.
That being said, I notice others have stated to grow it yourself.
Scabiosa is mostly native to the UK but UK sites cannot ship plant products like seeds to the USA due to USDA regulations...remember when you go through customs and they ask if you have plant products?
On the bright side, there are also US companies from which you can purchase seeds.
Happy gardening! I realise how lucky I am to have plenty of space for a garden, the hard part is keeping my horses from munching! It's harder than you think!
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If Devil's Bit were for sale in whole root form in wholesale quantities, we would carry it at the Lucky Mojo Curio Co.
We grow many roots and herbs here ourselves and we contract with growers and wildcrafters throughout the nation to supply us with their regional specialties. However, as stated elsewhere in the forum, our climate, water availability, and soil conditions are not suitable for growing this plant on a large scale. Wild-crafting the plant is not sustainable, and despite our repeated requests to our regular plant sources, no one has yet come forth with an offer to contract-grow us a yearly supply of the whole, dried root.
We look forward to hearing from interested hobby and commercial growers who may be able to supply us with whole Devil's Bit root on an ongoing basis, as it is indeed the most-requested root for which we have no source.
We grow many roots and herbs here ourselves and we contract with growers and wildcrafters throughout the nation to supply us with their regional specialties. However, as stated elsewhere in the forum, our climate, water availability, and soil conditions are not suitable for growing this plant on a large scale. Wild-crafting the plant is not sustainable, and despite our repeated requests to our regular plant sources, no one has yet come forth with an offer to contract-grow us a yearly supply of the whole, dried root.
We look forward to hearing from interested hobby and commercial growers who may be able to supply us with whole Devil's Bit root on an ongoing basis, as it is indeed the most-requested root for which we have no source.
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I live in a pretty agrarian, rural area here in Western Washington. I own some acreage but it's either forest or pasture.
However, we do have several co-ops in our area, and some farmers in this area might be willing to undertake this venture. With the weather and climate nearly identical to that of the UK, Devil's Bit ought to thrive here. I know a couple smallholders who grow custom crops on occasion.
I know the plant ought to bloom between July and October, and is hardy to -20F...my main question: how long before the root matures? Before I go asking local farmers to plant this, they will want to know days to harvest. Does anyone happen to know? As far as water requirements, I think we have that met...it is currently sunny and snowing as I type.
To LM: Should I be able to locate a willing grower, how much Devil's Bit root do you anticipate requiring annually? I certainly don't mind trying to facilitate this, but any answers I can have before I go asking would be most appreciated.
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However, we do have several co-ops in our area, and some farmers in this area might be willing to undertake this venture. With the weather and climate nearly identical to that of the UK, Devil's Bit ought to thrive here. I know a couple smallholders who grow custom crops on occasion.
I know the plant ought to bloom between July and October, and is hardy to -20F...my main question: how long before the root matures? Before I go asking local farmers to plant this, they will want to know days to harvest. Does anyone happen to know? As far as water requirements, I think we have that met...it is currently sunny and snowing as I type.
To LM: Should I be able to locate a willing grower, how much Devil's Bit root do you anticipate requiring annually? I certainly don't mind trying to facilitate this, but any answers I can have before I go asking would be most appreciated.
Thanks!
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Hi, Morrigan --
We have no idea how much Devil's Bit we could handle and this is a doubly unusual situation for us in that there is no known value structure to help us set the price per pound of whole roots. Also, since this is a flowering plant with a beautiful flower, i would prefer to contract with a florist's grower, who could have profit on both top and bottom of the plant and thus would not expect to make all of his or her profit off of my need for the root.
We have no idea how much Devil's Bit we could handle and this is a doubly unusual situation for us in that there is no known value structure to help us set the price per pound of whole roots. Also, since this is a flowering plant with a beautiful flower, i would prefer to contract with a florist's grower, who could have profit on both top and bottom of the plant and thus would not expect to make all of his or her profit off of my need for the root.
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Re: How to Use Lucky Mojo Magical Herbs, Roots, Seeds, Flowers Questions and Answers
There are too many herbs you offer to go through and list which are and are not edible. However I have been studying and working with herbs for many years and have even started getting into wild greens, so I do know which ones not to eat or drink tisanes made from them, or use only externally.
What I want to know though, is of the ones that are edible, have they been wildcrafted or grown with "food-safe" chemicals/organically?
For example, if I make a tisane of your rose petals, would it be OK to drink (unlike rose petals from the average florist)?
What I want to know though, is of the ones that are edible, have they been wildcrafted or grown with "food-safe" chemicals/organically?
For example, if I make a tisane of your rose petals, would it be OK to drink (unlike rose petals from the average florist)?
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That is a good question, especially concerning Rose petals and florists. Everything that we do grow here at Lucky Mojo is gardened organically (Rose petals included) -- but we cannot grow everything we stock. Of the herbs we pruchase, you will find three types: certified organic, wildcrafted (no pesticides), and commercial food or medical grade. When we can, we purchase from certified organic growers or wildcrafters. The rest of our "edibles" are all food-grade, but may have been commercially grown -- and thus they would not differ from regular, non-organically-grown food-grade herbs purchased elsewhere in the form of teas.
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Thank you. That's just what I wanted to know. I figured with your background in writing as a gardener and for gardeners, that that would be the case, but I didn't want to assume (considering that your labelling does say "sell as Curio only").
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In HHRM, Shame Brier is listed as Mimosa quadrivalvis or a number of the Schrankia L. Our nurseries here grow Mimosa pudica. What, if any, are the overlaps in hoodoo usage?
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Good evening everyone,
I have read 90% of the book "Hoodoo Herb and Root magic" and it is fascinating!!! (I stop and re-read and continue).
My question is, is it my understanding most of the roots can be found in oil or powder form as well? Is this where the worker chooses to use either powder or oil versus the root?
I have a rather lengthy list of items to be ordered and not sure as to order the oil, powder or the actual root. Perfect example is Adam & Eve, there is the root, powder and oil, is it which ever I feel more comfortable working with?
I know that there are some powders in distinct color and an oil would be better as to being unnoticeable. Thank you!!!
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I have read 90% of the book "Hoodoo Herb and Root magic" and it is fascinating!!! (I stop and re-read and continue).
My question is, is it my understanding most of the roots can be found in oil or powder form as well? Is this where the worker chooses to use either powder or oil versus the root?
I have a rather lengthy list of items to be ordered and not sure as to order the oil, powder or the actual root. Perfect example is Adam & Eve, there is the root, powder and oil, is it which ever I feel more comfortable working with?
I know that there are some powders in distinct color and an oil would be better as to being unnoticeable. Thank you!!!
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The major use for herbs, roots, minerals, and so forth is as curios in and of themselves -- that is, as ingredients in mojo hands.
Some curios are added to oils or powders or incense -- others seldom are. Only a few of the natural curios listed in HHRM are the major ingredients in an oil that is named after them -- John the Conqueror Root in oil, for example, or Lodestone Oil.
Adam and Eve root is an endangered species. The oil, powder, and so forth no longer have the actual root in, because collecting it is against the law and against common sense.
Topic is being moved to the herbs, minerals and curios section.
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Some curios are added to oils or powders or incense -- others seldom are. Only a few of the natural curios listed in HHRM are the major ingredients in an oil that is named after them -- John the Conqueror Root in oil, for example, or Lodestone Oil.
Adam and Eve root is an endangered species. The oil, powder, and so forth no longer have the actual root in, because collecting it is against the law and against common sense.
Topic is being moved to the herbs, minerals and curios section.
The magical qualities of our herbs are described in this book, with folkloric hoodoo spells for use in practical conjure,
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Thank you for the clarification and sorry for the mis-posting. I will continue to read and re-read the contents.
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As you already know, Mimosa pudica or Sensitive Plant is not Shame Brier or Shaming Judy. Shame Brier is a little scraggly ground-crawler native to the American South. Sensitive Plant is an ornamental bush native to Brazil.
However, despite the differences in plant size and point of origination, both Sensitive Plant and Shame Brier are related members of the Legume family with leaves that suddenly droop downward when they are touched.
It might be interesting to use Sensitive Plant as a substitute for Shame Brier, as it is a fairly common plant and the principle of action would be the same.
I've long considered making such a substitution myself, but i never gave it a try as it would require buying a Sensitive Plant for my property. Let us know how it works out for you. Maybe i'll try it too and we can report back on that to one another.
However, despite the differences in plant size and point of origination, both Sensitive Plant and Shame Brier are related members of the Legume family with leaves that suddenly droop downward when they are touched.
It might be interesting to use Sensitive Plant as a substitute for Shame Brier, as it is a fairly common plant and the principle of action would be the same.
I've long considered making such a substitution myself, but i never gave it a try as it would require buying a Sensitive Plant for my property. Let us know how it works out for you. Maybe i'll try it too and we can report back on that to one another.
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Thanks, Miss Cat! I was wondering because I've seen Shame Brier before and it's "scraggly ground-crawler"-ness definitely gives it the shamed, low-down vibe even before it's drooping takes effect. The proud, more ornamental nature of M. pudica does kind of work against it, but as you say, the principle of action would be the same. It's at least worth further investigation.
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Is Arnica ever used (and for what?) in hoodoo practice?
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Um, what kind of arnica?, Its a broad genius. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you meant Arnica montana which is the most well know plant form that genius. I don't think it has use in conjure but it might. Maybe under a different name.
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Arnica is not used magically in hoodoo but does see use in European-style folk-medicine.
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Cat - I'm reviving this old thread because it just occurred to me that you might want to contact a wholesale florist. That lists scabiosa in their inventory of flowers.
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What is the function of Hemlock in hoodoo?
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I don't know of any, but if anyone does, you will probably have to differentiate between poison hemlock, water hemlock, and hemlock- the tree.
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Poison Hemlock is an herb with well-known European symbolic associations, but it is not treated as such in American folk magic. It is not an ingredient in conjure hands or tonics.
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Ok, I'm curious and my books haven't arrived yet, so if I am asking a stupid question, please forgive my temporary ignorance.
What is the root used for? I can't find any info.
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What is the root used for? I can't find any info.
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OH!!! Found it! Thanks.
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So, after reading the above posts, I became a little obsessed with trying to find Devil's Bit herb and I decided to grow it myself. But I am about to turn you onto one of my best resources for plants and herbs and I am hoping you will follow up because I think it could provide LM with a great resource for the hard to find items they can't get elsewhere.
The Veteran's Administration here in Los Angeles runs a 15 acre garden - all organic, where they use horticulture as a means to treat PTSD in veterans. The special thing about this garden that can help you is that they have an affinity for special projects. They have 2 huge greenhouses and they also do flower arrangements as well as have a bird sanctuary where dozens of rescued exotic birds are fed handmade organic food on a daily basis and live in cages larger than my apartment.
1 - They could make a profit off of both the root and the flower as they can use the flowers in their floral arrangements
2 - It would help vets learn to care for plants that are more suited to other zones (The garden is in Zone 10 - Devil's Bit only goes up to Zone 9)
3 - You could bring in a little extra revenue for the garden year round - They also grow the microgreens for the Playboy Mansion (so you don't have to be a vet to work with them) and sell them for a fraction of the cost when they could charge Mr. Heffner a fortune considering the amount of work they go through to grow them off the ground.
The Vet's Garden doesn't work for profit - it is funded by the Veteran's Administration for its basic operation - to provide a work-therapy and horticulture/pet therapy resource for the Veteran's Administration. All the money they make by selling their goods is spent on parties for the vets and Summer barbeques for the 2 dozen veterans who work there.
I went through their program and I learned so much. At one point they gave me my own 12' x 12' plot where I grew tomatoes, watermelons, string beans, eggplant and a whole bunch of herbs. It cost me absolutely nothing - they even gave me the seeds, fertilizer and all the water I desired. On top of that, but they gave me pounds and pounds of free produce just to take home for myself. Like I said - they aren't there for profit. Striking up a relationship with them could possibly prove to be ideal - otherwise I wouldn't suggest it.
Just a thought. I hope it helps.
Jewelz
The Veteran's Administration here in Los Angeles runs a 15 acre garden - all organic, where they use horticulture as a means to treat PTSD in veterans. The special thing about this garden that can help you is that they have an affinity for special projects. They have 2 huge greenhouses and they also do flower arrangements as well as have a bird sanctuary where dozens of rescued exotic birds are fed handmade organic food on a daily basis and live in cages larger than my apartment.
1 - They could make a profit off of both the root and the flower as they can use the flowers in their floral arrangements
2 - It would help vets learn to care for plants that are more suited to other zones (The garden is in Zone 10 - Devil's Bit only goes up to Zone 9)
3 - You could bring in a little extra revenue for the garden year round - They also grow the microgreens for the Playboy Mansion (so you don't have to be a vet to work with them) and sell them for a fraction of the cost when they could charge Mr. Heffner a fortune considering the amount of work they go through to grow them off the ground.
The Vet's Garden doesn't work for profit - it is funded by the Veteran's Administration for its basic operation - to provide a work-therapy and horticulture/pet therapy resource for the Veteran's Administration. All the money they make by selling their goods is spent on parties for the vets and Summer barbeques for the 2 dozen veterans who work there.
I went through their program and I learned so much. At one point they gave me my own 12' x 12' plot where I grew tomatoes, watermelons, string beans, eggplant and a whole bunch of herbs. It cost me absolutely nothing - they even gave me the seeds, fertilizer and all the water I desired. On top of that, but they gave me pounds and pounds of free produce just to take home for myself. Like I said - they aren't there for profit. Striking up a relationship with them could possibly prove to be ideal - otherwise I wouldn't suggest it.
Just a thought. I hope it helps.
Jewelz
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Good Morning everyone,
I'm at in the process of trying to locate Toloache, I looked it up in my HHRM book but found no reference to it. Is Toloache the same thing as Datura and Moonflower? and does LM carry this product in either power/root or oil form? This is what I found about Datura....Datura has been used to hex and to break hexes, to produce sleep and induce dreams, and for protection from evil (perhaps in the fire against fire sense). It has also been used for divination in Native American milieux, to find one's totem animal, for communing with birds, to allow one to see ghosts,
Daturas, much like its siblings belladonna, mandrake, and henbane, contain dangerous tropane alkaloids--atropine, hyoscyamine, and scopolamine. The flowers are extraordinarily beautiful and often have a very powerful, lily-like or lemony fragrance; people who sleep in the presence of the blooms can have intense nightmares caused by psychoactive properties of the flowers' scent.
Thank you for any comments and imput!!
Nati
I'm at in the process of trying to locate Toloache, I looked it up in my HHRM book but found no reference to it. Is Toloache the same thing as Datura and Moonflower? and does LM carry this product in either power/root or oil form? This is what I found about Datura....Datura has been used to hex and to break hexes, to produce sleep and induce dreams, and for protection from evil (perhaps in the fire against fire sense). It has also been used for divination in Native American milieux, to find one's totem animal, for communing with birds, to allow one to see ghosts,
Daturas, much like its siblings belladonna, mandrake, and henbane, contain dangerous tropane alkaloids--atropine, hyoscyamine, and scopolamine. The flowers are extraordinarily beautiful and often have a very powerful, lily-like or lemony fragrance; people who sleep in the presence of the blooms can have intense nightmares caused by psychoactive properties of the flowers' scent.
Thank you for any comments and imput!!
Nati
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I don't know of it, but if you want to know if LuckyMojo carries it, I would suggest looking in their catalog.
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Hi nati1,
Lucky Mojo does not carry Datura, nor Toloache (which often does contain Datura and/or similar ingredients).nati1 wrote: I'm at in the process of trying to locate Toloache, I looked it up in my HHRM book but found no reference to it. Is Toloache the same thing as Datura and Moonflower? and does LM carry this product in either power/root or oil form?
Peace be with you,
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How do I know if it's real Adam and Eve root? I see many places selling them, but the "Adam" root looks like "balm of gilead". Is there a scientific name for the real root? I have access to a greenhouse and may be able to grow them myseelf (how magically appropriate would that be?). I'm having to do the same for Devil's Bit.Good luck finding real Adam and Eve roots, they are endangered and quite rare and so aren't on the market, tho, some less then reputable shops will sell you something that they say is Adam and Eve root but its almost always, we're talking 99% of the time, some other herb. Now Hypothetically if you had two Adam and Eve roots you could tie them, if that's what you felt was right.
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According to ms.cats lovely book Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic Aplectrum hyemale is the one usually ID'd as Adam and Eve root in America. And yeah a lot of places try and sell Balm of Gilead as Adam and Eve root, Its usually a bad deal because they mark them up and Balm of Gilead is not by any stretch expensive. If you can get some seeds and grow them good for you, I wouldn't have any use for them myself but I imagine you'd be the envy of many. But like I said they are quite rare so getting stock to grow may be just as difficult as getting the root/s for a spell.
I think growing them yourself,if you can, would be very appropriate, I grow a few of my own herbs and they are quite powerful, its the care and energy you put into raising the plant.
I think growing them yourself,if you can, would be very appropriate, I grow a few of my own herbs and they are quite powerful, its the care and energy you put into raising the plant.
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Thanks for the info. Actually, I just got 5 live bulbs/roots off for about 3 bucks per plant with shipping. I'm going to go ahead and grow one or two in my home just because they are so beautiful, but the others, I will cultivate for spellwork.
It's confusing, I had read in a different part of the LM site that the name for the root was Orchis Mascula:
(FROM THE LUCKY MOJO FREE SPELLS ARCHIVE: MAGIC SPELLS: TOOLS and MATERIALS used in SPELL-CASTING compiled from usenet, 1995 - present, by cat yronwode):
Adam and Eve root (also called Eve and Adam root in the
Southern USA) is the root of an orchid, Orchis mascula. You
should get two of tem in a pack, one Adam and one Eve. The
species is very closely related to lucky hand root (also
called salep or saloop or putty root orchid). It is
EXTREMELY RARE in the wild at this time and i have found no
reliable source for domestically grown or wildcrafted roots.
Orchis Mascula is actually the "Early Purple" variety of orchid - I didn't know if this was a magical conversion for purposes of Hoodoo. Though the roots do look remarkably similar to the "Adam and Eve Orchid".
It took me all day to figure this out - I'm a research fanatic. When I finally did try searching for the Aplectrum Hyemale, it was a lot easier to find than the Orchis Mascula. The roots of both look a lot like testes with one being dark and the other light (or at least this is what I see in the pictures).
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Jewelz
It's confusing, I had read in a different part of the LM site that the name for the root was Orchis Mascula:
(FROM THE LUCKY MOJO FREE SPELLS ARCHIVE: MAGIC SPELLS: TOOLS and MATERIALS used in SPELL-CASTING compiled from usenet, 1995 - present, by cat yronwode):
Adam and Eve root (also called Eve and Adam root in the
Southern USA) is the root of an orchid, Orchis mascula. You
should get two of tem in a pack, one Adam and one Eve. The
species is very closely related to lucky hand root (also
called salep or saloop or putty root orchid). It is
EXTREMELY RARE in the wild at this time and i have found no
reliable source for domestically grown or wildcrafted roots.
Orchis Mascula is actually the "Early Purple" variety of orchid - I didn't know if this was a magical conversion for purposes of Hoodoo. Though the roots do look remarkably similar to the "Adam and Eve Orchid".
It took me all day to figure this out - I'm a research fanatic. When I finally did try searching for the Aplectrum Hyemale, it was a lot easier to find than the Orchis Mascula. The roots of both look a lot like testes with one being dark and the other light (or at least this is what I see in the pictures).
<3
Jewelz
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Awesome, good for you. Sorry if I gave you the wrong name, I may have spelled it wrong or have been looking at the wrong entry. 

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oh no, you gave me the right name, it was the other info that messed me up. Your smiley made me laugh! I guess that stuff doesn't come across in the forum format.
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Re: How to Use Lucky Mojo Magical Herbs, Roots, Seeds, Flowers Questions and Answers
HI Cat,
I live in the Uk, and I actually bought some seeds of the Devil's Bit, and I'm growing some right now, once I get going I could always grow some here for you. I bought the seeds funnily enough from an American website. But I would be happy to grow them as i have some space. I'm also trying to grow Masterwort but thats more of a challenge. though oit grows wild here it can be mistaken as another poisonous varity of Umbillifer.
Hope that helps
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I live in the Uk, and I actually bought some seeds of the Devil's Bit, and I'm growing some right now, once I get going I could always grow some here for you. I bought the seeds funnily enough from an American website. But I would be happy to grow them as i have some space. I'm also trying to grow Masterwort but thats more of a challenge. though oit grows wild here it can be mistaken as another poisonous varity of Umbillifer.
Hope that helps
Oliver
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Hi Cat,
I have alot of Opium Poppys in my garden they are really more a violet almost purple colour can they stilll be used? And would they be more for confusion or more for psychic opening?
Oliver
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I have alot of Opium Poppys in my garden they are really more a violet almost purple colour can they stilll be used? And would they be more for confusion or more for psychic opening?
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I wasn't sure this is the appropriate place to put this, so please someone move it if need be.
Reading Miss Cat's book, I came across the grape entry. My question: Is muscadine wild grape? We have muscadines growing wild all over the place down here. Or is it another animal all together? I know vitis is the genus, but is the species that are included in "muscadines" the appropriate plant?
I'm very interested in identifying any local plants, roots, etc that may be used in hoodoo. Finding and collecting just seems more powerful to me. So any knowledge that can assist in that respect is my cup of tea.
Thanks
Reading Miss Cat's book, I came across the grape entry. My question: Is muscadine wild grape? We have muscadines growing wild all over the place down here. Or is it another animal all together? I know vitis is the genus, but is the species that are included in "muscadines" the appropriate plant?
I'm very interested in identifying any local plants, roots, etc that may be used in hoodoo. Finding and collecting just seems more powerful to me. So any knowledge that can assist in that respect is my cup of tea.
Thanks

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I think I will attempt to see if any of these will grow down here in the gumbo that passes for dirt on the texas coast line.... will report back if theres any success.
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Yes, Muscadines are "wild grapes."
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Thank you. I was getting too specific I think in looking at individual varieties and wondering about cultivated vs. native. 

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Re: How to Use Lucky Mojo Magical Herbs, Roots, Seeds, Flowers Questions and Answers
Hello, all! I'm new to the theory/practice of Hoodoo, and I was curious to know what those who were more experienced in these sorts of things would use Poison Ivy for?
Re: How to Use Lucky Mojo Magical Herbs, Roots, Seeds, Flowers Questions and Answers
Im new too but I didnt see it offered either for sale or in this online reference http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodoo.html some things are just better left alone...but if I hear of something I will post
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Hi,
I read about how hard it is to find real adam and eve roots and all the fakes going around. I found a packet of them and they come in a little colored paper envelope with english and spanish. This is the same company that also sells little amulets and charms in the same colored envelpopes. Any body seen these? Are these also fake or could they be the real deal?
What other herbs beside adam and eve would be a good addition to a love honey jar?
Thanks,
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I read about how hard it is to find real adam and eve roots and all the fakes going around. I found a packet of them and they come in a little colored paper envelope with english and spanish. This is the same company that also sells little amulets and charms in the same colored envelpopes. Any body seen these? Are these also fake or could they be the real deal?
What other herbs beside adam and eve would be a good addition to a love honey jar?
Thanks,
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Fake. One Balm of Gilead Bud and one fat seed of some species or another.
The real ones are not just hard to find -- it is ILLEGAL to wild-craft them because they are an endangered species of rare orchid.
The real ones are not just hard to find -- it is ILLEGAL to wild-craft them because they are an endangered species of rare orchid.
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Has anyone heard of this and how to implore its usage? Any spells on using it. Thanks!!
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Hi there,
Do you have the newest addition of Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic?
http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodooherbmagic.html
Its available here and Cruel Man of the Woods has his own little entry!
take care,
Bri
Do you have the newest addition of Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic?
http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodooherbmagic.html
Its available here and Cruel Man of the Woods has his own little entry!
take care,
Bri
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Re: How to Use Lucky Mojo Magical Herbs, Roots, Seeds, Flowers Questions and Answers
I haven't read the book.
Exactly what is "Cruel man Of the Woods"??
Exactly what is "Cruel man Of the Woods"??
Re: How to Use Lucky Mojo Magical Herbs, Roots, Seeds, Flowers Questions and Answers
According to HHRM its a mushroom.
I love my copy of HHRM its one of 3 magical oriented herbal books I've collected in over 25 years of research (and over 70 books on herbalism) that I would recommend without hesitation, and in fact would heartily endorse if a testimonial were requested. If you don't have a copy its well worth the cover price and is signed in person by the lovely cat herself. Would that I had run across it much sooner in my travels.
It has extensive and multiple uses for herbs where indicated, as well as cross referencing of common names for them, next to impossible to find in herb books. It also has handy charts for quick reference if your looking for an herb for a certain predicament or situation which is a bit more common, but wonderful just the same.
This product gets 2 thumbs up and makes me wish I had another thumb to deliver lol....and I am going to post this over to testimonials as well I think for any who might be hesitant about purchasing this.
I love my copy of HHRM its one of 3 magical oriented herbal books I've collected in over 25 years of research (and over 70 books on herbalism) that I would recommend without hesitation, and in fact would heartily endorse if a testimonial were requested. If you don't have a copy its well worth the cover price and is signed in person by the lovely cat herself. Would that I had run across it much sooner in my travels.
It has extensive and multiple uses for herbs where indicated, as well as cross referencing of common names for them, next to impossible to find in herb books. It also has handy charts for quick reference if your looking for an herb for a certain predicament or situation which is a bit more common, but wonderful just the same.
This product gets 2 thumbs up and makes me wish I had another thumb to deliver lol....and I am going to post this over to testimonials as well I think for any who might be hesitant about purchasing this.
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Hi Lucylookingskyward,
While individual sensitivity might limit the practicality of harvesting it for use in oils or sachets, I can definitely see using poison ivy as a place to deploy a work meant to keep an enemy bound and in extreme discomfort--tying and burying the work in the roots of the poison ivy, specifically.Lucylookingskyward wrote:Hello, all! I'm new to the theory/practice of Hoodoo, and I was curious to know what those who were more experienced in these sorts of things would use Poison Ivy for?
Peace be with you,
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Re: How to Use Lucky Mojo Magical Herbs, Roots, Seeds, Flowers Questions and Answers
Do dried herbs lose their power over time? Say you have a package of pennyroyal that's a couple years old, for example. Will it be as effective as more recently gathered pennyroyal?
(I admit I'm embarrassed to ask this because I'm sure I knew the answer once upon a time, but it's completely gone from my memory. I have a few sage wands for smudging, a couple of which are a couple years old, and though I have been told sage loses its potency after a year they seem to have the same 'nature' as ever to me. I realize that smudging with sage is not a part of hoodoo, however, so I'll be interested in hearing other's answers.)
(I admit I'm embarrassed to ask this because I'm sure I knew the answer once upon a time, but it's completely gone from my memory. I have a few sage wands for smudging, a couple of which are a couple years old, and though I have been told sage loses its potency after a year they seem to have the same 'nature' as ever to me. I realize that smudging with sage is not a part of hoodoo, however, so I'll be interested in hearing other's answers.)
Re: How to Use Lucky Mojo Magical Herbs, Roots, Seeds, Flowers Questions and Answers
Hi Silverpony,
Most practitioners of hoodoo live in places that have climatically-defined growing seasons. This means that there are portions of the year when fresh herbs are simply not available, barring one's ability to grow them out of season indoors or in a greenhouse (unlike the sub-tropical and tropical Carribean, where fresh plants may be had year-round). As a result, most hoodoo practitioners make use of dried herbs and roots, with no worry of "loss of power", provided the herbs/roots are properly dried/cured and stored so that they do not rot, become infested with insects, or suffer from exposure to extremes in temperature or light. In the case of the years-old pennyroyal, examine the herb, and smell or taste it. Does it still smell like pennyroyal? It is free of mold/insect infestation? Does it appear to be intact and of good color? If yes to all three, it is probably still usable. Some practitioners do use a one-year rule of thumb for leafy herbs (longer for barks or hard roots), but ultimately, direct inspection and knowledge of how the material was dried/stored are likely to be more reliable guides.
The Lucky Mojo Curio Co. is proud to announce a new book in our series on practical folklore.
This Amazing Book - Hoodoo Herb and Root Medicine is restored, revised, and edited presentation of a little-known classic of medical herbology, first published in 1947 by the Sunrae Products Company of Ogema, Wisconsin. In this new edition, catherine yronwode teaches you the "other" side of magical rootwork — the down-home, historical, and practical medical side of the work. With new added illustrations, and pages of practical recipes for home-made medicines, this book is designed as a page-by-page cross-reference to the author's previous best-seller, Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic. Use these two books in tandem to get the best of two worlds from Nature's herbs, roots, barks, flowers, and seeds.
Read more here: http://www.luckymojo.com/thisamazingbook.html
BOO-BOT-TAMB
This Amazing Book by Sunrae Products Company, ed. cat yronwode
$12.00

Hoodoo Herb and Root Medicine Opens the Door to Better Health
You can order right here in the Forum by clicking on the blue Add To Cart button.
CONTENTS
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Dedication 3
Acknowledgements 3
Let Nature Help You 3
Introduction to the Revised Edition 4
Important Notice 11
A Guide to Medical Terminology 13
Alphabetical List of Herbs and Their Uses 19
How to Make and Use Simple Medicines 92
Traditional Herbal Remedies 93
Bibliography 96
Illustrations 18, 23, 28, 33, 38, 43, 48, 53, 58, 63, 68, 73, 78, 83, 88
First Edition 2017
Published by
The Lucky Mojo Curio Company
6632 Covey Road
Forestville, California 95436
http://www.luckymojo.com
Most practitioners of hoodoo live in places that have climatically-defined growing seasons. This means that there are portions of the year when fresh herbs are simply not available, barring one's ability to grow them out of season indoors or in a greenhouse (unlike the sub-tropical and tropical Carribean, where fresh plants may be had year-round). As a result, most hoodoo practitioners make use of dried herbs and roots, with no worry of "loss of power", provided the herbs/roots are properly dried/cured and stored so that they do not rot, become infested with insects, or suffer from exposure to extremes in temperature or light. In the case of the years-old pennyroyal, examine the herb, and smell or taste it. Does it still smell like pennyroyal? It is free of mold/insect infestation? Does it appear to be intact and of good color? If yes to all three, it is probably still usable. Some practitioners do use a one-year rule of thumb for leafy herbs (longer for barks or hard roots), but ultimately, direct inspection and knowledge of how the material was dried/stored are likely to be more reliable guides.
The Lucky Mojo Curio Co. is proud to announce a new book in our series on practical folklore.
This Amazing Book - Hoodoo Herb and Root Medicine is restored, revised, and edited presentation of a little-known classic of medical herbology, first published in 1947 by the Sunrae Products Company of Ogema, Wisconsin. In this new edition, catherine yronwode teaches you the "other" side of magical rootwork — the down-home, historical, and practical medical side of the work. With new added illustrations, and pages of practical recipes for home-made medicines, this book is designed as a page-by-page cross-reference to the author's previous best-seller, Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic. Use these two books in tandem to get the best of two worlds from Nature's herbs, roots, barks, flowers, and seeds.
Read more here: http://www.luckymojo.com/thisamazingbook.html
BOO-BOT-TAMB
This Amazing Book by Sunrae Products Company, ed. cat yronwode
$12.00


Hoodoo Herb and Root Medicine Opens the Door to Better Health
You can order right here in the Forum by clicking on the blue Add To Cart button.
CONTENTS
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Dedication 3
Acknowledgements 3
Let Nature Help You 3
Introduction to the Revised Edition 4
Important Notice 11
A Guide to Medical Terminology 13
Alphabetical List of Herbs and Their Uses 19
How to Make and Use Simple Medicines 92
Traditional Herbal Remedies 93
Bibliography 96
Illustrations 18, 23, 28, 33, 38, 43, 48, 53, 58, 63, 68, 73, 78, 83, 88
First Edition 2017
Published by
The Lucky Mojo Curio Company
6632 Covey Road
Forestville, California 95436
http://www.luckymojo.com
Peace be with you,
Lukianos
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Re: How to Use Lucky Mojo Magical Herbs, Roots, Seeds, Flowers Questions and Answers
We have a lot of medical issues in our household, and we need all the internal protection we can get, so I like to cook with Four Thieves Vinegar. A recent experiment ended up very tasty, and I thought I'd share. Here's what you do:
FOUR THIEVES VINEGAR BBQ SAUCE
In a large pot, combine
Ketchup
Four Thieves Vinegar
Sweetener of your choice (brown sugar, honey, molasses, or -- my favorite -- a combination of the three)
The proportions depend on your personal taste, so sample it a lot as it cooks down and make the necessary adjustments.
Add herbal seasonings that suit your tastes and your spiritual intention Some suggestions:
Red Cayenne Pepper and Black Pepper or Pepper Sauce to drive away unwanted people
Garlic for protection from all forms of evil
Oregano to keep off the law and bill collectors
Cinnamon to draw money to the home
Dittany of Crete for love enchantments
Cumin for fidelity and to protect a marriage
Really, you can throw in anything edible that fits your purposes. Barbecue sauce is very forgiving!)
Put the pot in the oven without a lid and cook it at 350 degrees, stirring every 15 minutes until it thickens up and reaches a taste and consistency that pleases you.
One important note: Lucky Mojo sells genuine Four Thieves Vinegar, which is safe to consume. Not all substances labeled "Four Thieves Vinegar" are edible, so be careful!
FOUR THIEVES VINEGAR BBQ SAUCE
In a large pot, combine
Ketchup
Four Thieves Vinegar
Sweetener of your choice (brown sugar, honey, molasses, or -- my favorite -- a combination of the three)
The proportions depend on your personal taste, so sample it a lot as it cooks down and make the necessary adjustments.
Add herbal seasonings that suit your tastes and your spiritual intention Some suggestions:
Red Cayenne Pepper and Black Pepper or Pepper Sauce to drive away unwanted people
Garlic for protection from all forms of evil
Oregano to keep off the law and bill collectors
Cinnamon to draw money to the home
Dittany of Crete for love enchantments
Cumin for fidelity and to protect a marriage
Really, you can throw in anything edible that fits your purposes. Barbecue sauce is very forgiving!)
Put the pot in the oven without a lid and cook it at 350 degrees, stirring every 15 minutes until it thickens up and reaches a taste and consistency that pleases you.
One important note: Lucky Mojo sells genuine Four Thieves Vinegar, which is safe to consume. Not all substances labeled "Four Thieves Vinegar" are edible, so be careful!
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Interesting. Sounds pretty good. Thanks for posting.