Love Spell with Alcoholic Addict Angry Argumentative or Abusive Person

justme2 · Unread post by **justme2** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:40 am

Hi there,

I recently had some break up, roadopener and love me candles set for me by LM and gosh, they work pretty fast! Signs and a little contact from the target. I'm a new convert and am wondering what other candles I could use to "keep heat" on the situation?

The situation being the man I love is possibly in a live-in relationship with his girlfriend/ex-girlfriend. He might still be with her.

He has a lot of issues (fear of commitment, alcoholic, financial problems etc), blows hot and cold AND has a pattern of dating older, divorced women with kids. He is divorced with a child too.

We've never dated but have been in touch as friends over the past year. I'm younger and unmarried, no kids (although I love them!). I know I can't change a person's inherent nature/tastes through spellwork but are there some candles we could use that could make him turn my way and help the situation? His ex is also VERY tenacious and stubborn, I suspect she'd resist very much and he well, has his personal issues I'm happy to work through with him. The eventual result I'd hope for is a happy relationship with him leading to marriage and a child. But that is further down the road, I hope to date the man first!

I have had divinations and they are mostly positive but as he is very mercurial, they sometimes change so I reckon I'll give it my best shot!

I've heard the hot foot is a good one to get rid of the ex, and is there a strong blockbuster of sorts besides the Roadopener, and perhaps something else that could help him act on his feelings for me? Any advice would be appreciated! I've checked out the LM selection and it is so vast, I'm not sure which is best for my situation. There's also the fire of love, bewitching, follow me boy which all look so good.

Thanks so much!
JustMe

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:36 pm

Hot foot is serious stuff. If you want her out that bad you could hot foot her, or keep up on the break up vigil and maybe do a moving candle spells where you move his and her candle away from one another while moving his closer to yours.

For him, I'd do Follow Me Boy and Fires of Love or Kiss Me now, you can also set another Break Up Vigil. There is a problem, though, because alcoholism is involved. You might not get exactly what you want, when alcoholism is a factor.

sofia · Unread post by **sofia** » Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:48 pm

Please help I need help with my boyfriend who has become very possesive jealous and controlling lately. What can I do I have a honey jar but don't know if it's working had it for 2 weeks now. Any suggestions feel like I'm goin to crazy now he even has a problem with me goin back to school!!

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:57 pm

Well, thats sounds like an abusive relationship in the making. I suggest you leave him and move on before it gets really bad. But we aren't here to offer relationship advise. So, you want to start working Peaceful Home products. Two weeks is not very much time at all, especially for a honey jar which are notoriously slow. This is the luckymojo page on Peaceful Home products : http://www.luckymojo.com/peacefulhome.html
Do keep in mind that if it is in his nature to control and abuse all the magic in the world will not change him.

Also I strongly suggest you get a reading from someone at the AIRR. There website can be found here: http://www.readersandrootworkers.org

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:20 am

I agree with HD - those behaviors are big red flags!! And magic will not change a person's basic nature.

Get a reading to get more perspective, but it's likely in your best interests to get out of there before things get really ugly.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:47 pm

You want to be careful, those are some dangerous warning signs. Get a reading to get a better perspective and find out what is causing this behavior. If its in his nature, very little can be done other than to mitigate some of the damage.

Try to work with Peaceful Home products to calm things down. Since you have a honey jar you can add two candles to either side of the honey jar, or create a triangle with the honey jar in the center using light blue candles and Peaceful Home products along with Healing. This will help calm things down.

Once you've calmed things down, you want to gain the upper hand in the relationship by creating a commanding jar aimed at giving you the upper hand. The key here is command not dominance. Commanding products are aimed at giving you the upper hand through shining in on your leadership qualities and other admirable characteristics. This can be done by putting his personal concerns in a bottle filled with Commanding Powder, oil, Calamus, Licorice, wafting a bit of incense smoke from Commanding incense into the jar and trapping it in. Then you stick 9 pins into the top of the jar. Everytime you want to add some pressure and get him to listen to you you simply turn the jar upside down and let his personal concerns get pricked by the pins. Some people like to anoint the pins with their urine before this stick it through the top of the bottle. This will help you get the upper hand, but please healing work first and a reading. It may be necessary to cut all loses and leave before it turns abusive.

cancankant · Unread post by **cancankant** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:26 am

I am 36 yrs old and have been married to my husband, 39 yrs old, for 11 yrs. We have a good relationship generally, but of course have our ups and downs. We've always been able to work through things, but once again, we are starting to fight constantly and it's taking a toll on me. He is currently going to school (pre-Nursing if it makes a difference). He has waffled between really wanting to do this as a career and thinking it's not for him. He admits that he is scared about school and wondering if he "can do this (i.e. nursing)" as a career. He is unhappy with his current job, and while he has other education (Bachelor degree in an arts field), he doesn't feel he has "any choice" but to go with nursing. I don't want him to go into something he isn't interested in out of desperation.

Any suggestions for a good peace and prosperity spell? I'd also like to find something that might bolster his confidence with school.

Thanks in advance!

niteraptor · Unread post by **niteraptor** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:51 pm

i am a druid/Wicca priestess new to using this, but my New Orleans bred auntie taught me many things i have seen on this site. so im here. (r.i.p. Auntie Sue, miss you)

Before I married 12 years ago we had an astrologer and my teacher check our auspices, we have 8 houses fused and 3 in harmony. one in opposition. all signs were good. once we were together, it seemed nothing could stand in our way, we had good jobs, good luck, got a huge house for a song, i had 3 quick labors of 3 wonderful boys. we had a strong coven, we were very happy and thankful with our lives.

But since we legalized our wedding with his mom and sister there our world has gone to hell in a hand basket. we had to change our plans to accommodate them. we didnt have it at a cemetery as i wished, we had it at a covener's farmhouse. we had an uninvited guest, a handicapped person i give lifts to, turn up but he was really cool about it. but even still my wedding ended up a disaster, my youngest son mysteriously got a head injury, that was later found to be the farmhouse owners child attacking him, my maid of honor had her gallbladder explode that nite and we had to take her for emergency surgery, the best man lost his job and his car in the same weekend.

then my husband soon had a knee and hip injury resulting in disability, addiction to pain killers, and mysteriously losing his wedding ring on the farmhouse property. he was a community leader and now people avoid him.

the farm owner who wanted to be my maid of honor and was not, (i have a bff ya know) has lured him into illicit activities that i was not aware she was doing way back when and is now telling people that im dead, in in jail, im crazy etc.

my kids are in custody.

hubby is still addicted, has refused to go find work because believed that people "Know hes so much better then them and they wont hire him. (note, he never even left his chair. preferring to watch porn and sleep there away from the family or disappear over to the PHArmhouse) while i was at work leaving the children alone. SCARY!!!

a few months ago, after a months of this. i had had enough, i read him the riot act, clean up, try to get his head together and stop hanging with the trash, he ran out the door.

i then did an uncrossing on the house with my bff using kosher salt and mojo products that was like lighting. bff suddenly found an aunt on line and moved to a new apt.

the illegally acting x coveners lost jobs, got arrested,and one moved out of town.

Mother in law had her gallbladder explode, sister in law had her car stolen. the pharmhouse owner who has been supplying my husband has filed for bankruptcy and now has her family farm up for sale. shes asking 200k but it was just appraised at 65k. locals tell me shes still gossiping about my insanity and violent divorce with her much younger new groupies (shes 47 her friends are about 18/25) and she has now started stealing from her work to support her habits. i really dont want to be anywhere near that mess.

hubby is currently living out of town with friends who are getting aggravated with his teenage behavior. last week he asks me for help fixing his life and then we took a shower with the last of the uncrossing oil. he says he wants to restart our marriage BUT he has memories of things happening that our family knows NEVER happened.

now as of today, he's still an addict, just lost his drivers license, his car was almost impounded and he still has no job and is still disabled and not doing a good job of pain management. one moment hes the kind and loving man i married and the next hes a narcissist bombastic selfish jerk yelling at me punching the walls and running out the door again.

im looking for options and ideas to trying to guide him to peace.

i have just purchased tranquility and peaceful home products because my children need stability. but as his wife of these many years i feel the need to try to heal him somehow.

i have set up a honey jar so far.

Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated thank you everyone.

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:55 am

He sounds like he needs psychiatric and addition help, not magic.

thelightfantastic · Unread post by **thelightfantastic** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:10 am

Agree with Turnsteel- if your husband is acting violently at any time and has a physical addiction to substances, he needs professional help. You can help him along with healing products, but real world solutions (ie rehab and therapy) are probably best in this situation.

You might also want to look into protection work for your home and your family.

niteraptor · Unread post by **niteraptor** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:58 pm

Thank you for your advice, i have spoken with the family dr, and she will be testing him to find out what he may be doing as he is only prescribed a muscle relaxer, one pain med and a mood stabilizer at the moment. I used his car today and found many prescription bottles NOT HIS under the seats.

yesterday my kids and i washed the whole house with Chinese wash and took salt (and bubble) baths. my youngest's floor, which is white painted wood, coloured the water red (?) and hard wood floor of the master bedroom coloured it a nasty green, rather odd i think as both of these rooms are on the second floor away from any outside dirt. i have obtained blue and green candles for peace and prosperity that i will light tonite. I changed my idea and am now thinking the a honey jar to sweeten him to the idea of peace or at least counseling.

off to work i go!

thank you all

niteraptor · Unread post by **niteraptor** » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:43 pm

I am quite surprised at the rapid positive response to the jar and cleaning. i have gotten 2 call backs for jobs and the house is much quieter. i was also called by friends to go to a party that hubby was going to, and there he was cornered not by me but by others there at his general uncouth behavior over the past months. he then came home for a few days to talk things out. he has admitted to having a substance problem and will talk to the dr about counciling.

i was not been able to get him to understand the people he was hanging with are trouble in general, for this im going to need to think of an option. as this small bit that i did seems to have helped in the i was thinking of a go away spell for that household, as they are already bankrupt and up for sale, and their neighbors have called in the house violations and reported the parties. (hording animals and trash, roof falling off, constant traffic) i was also thinking something along the lines of justice or revealing. so that no one else would be harmed. any thoughts on this are also appreciated

thank you again all, i am in your debt! :>

Unread post by **JayDee** » Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:15 pm

for the neighbors it really sounds like you want to hotfoot them outta of town, being they lost everything anyways might be an easy hotfoot lol

niteraptor · Unread post by **niteraptor** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:24 am

in the past 24 hours, i learned that 2 carloads of persons turned up at the apt house where hubby is staying, at 1 am much to the upset of the neighbors, its 50+ miles from here! i have run into a lady who told me horror stories about the family who owns the farm and how happy people are to see the for sale sign up. and i have also heard that the farm owner, the woman who is filing bankruptcy, has smarmed her way into being taken on a week long island vacation with, you got it, a married man!

omg is this shit going to EVER STOP!!! i wonder if i had not found that bottle of uncrossing lucky mojo would i be knowing all this.

so i do not have hot foot at this moment as i am waiting for disposable income, and i am reading over inventory to make a proper order. but i am thinking of doing a kind of union of opposite working till then. the freezer working of dr e', and a vinegar/hot spice/pin bottle both for all those disruptive creeps, keep that hot one behind the stove. its a new moon and i wanted to do clean work, finding job work but it seems i have to get this out of the way first.

sigh. guess this is what miss cat was talking about when she said things have to get out of the way before a reconciliation can be clear.

peace and love

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:18 am

"He's such a douche bag" is not a term of endearment. I think you need a better man, one whom you can love and trust.

You answered one of my previous questions (thanks!), but not the other:

Have you set a time limit for your work?

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:43 am

I have bundled several of your related threads into one thread. I have also retitled it. Please title threads with a description of the problem, and please reply to the original thread rather than starting new threads on the same subject, so that those who try to help you can be kept aware of any developments ongoing in your situation.

I am still waiting for an answer to this question: You say that in 2008 a psychic told you that your friend and his ex will break up this year. Have you set a time limit for your work accordingly?

It also strikes me that no one has yet commented on the fact that you say the man always turns up for sex drunk. I have a suspicion that drink may be interferring with his ability to function on other levels as well, and is impairing his development as a mature, natural man who can make clear, forward-looking decisions, including the decision to move on from his already-partnered ex or to tell you either "I love you" or "Goodbye."

I suggest that the man you called -- in TWO separate posts -- a "douche bag" is not your idea of a lover either. He may love you, but the relationship is spiraling down into chaotic turmoil, probably as a result of his mental incapacities, including drink, and it is time for you to walk away.

You have detached to the point that you no longer allow him free access to you sexually. This is a good, strong boundary to make. We, as women, have no need to give our bodies, our love, and our sacred sexuality away to "douche bag" men.

You have gone from psychic to psychic, and tried a number of spells. You want the psychics to somehow "fix" this problem for you. It cannot be fixed. He may love you, but at this time he is not suitable timber for a relationship. He may never be.

There are six billion people on this earth. Three billion of them are male. One billion of them are single. Three hundred million of those probably fall within your preferred age-range. One hundred million probably are satisfactory in looks, according to your preferences. One million -- AT LEAST -- will also find you to be of an acceptable age and appearance according to their preferences. Of that one million, five hundred thousand will be gainfully employed or have another form of legal steady income, will not be drug addicts or drunks, and will be looking for someone just like you.

Five hundred thousand men.

It's time to start checking those men out, one by one. No time to waste now -- your life is ticking away while you futilely wait for Mr. Drunk-Douche-Bag-With-An-Ex to get his life together.

Start with a Black Walnut Bath and a Cut and Clear Spell Kit.

Good luck

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:01 am

I think its important to also recognize this fact, even if the reader is right and this guy "loves" you he obviously is neither mature enough to appreciate that, nor decent enough to treat you well. What I see is that he turns to you for comfort when he's most vulnerable because he knows you're reliable, but then walks away to pursue what he desires. He's trying to have his cake and eat it to.

Speak to your reader in a consultation to find out what specific actions would be good for you.

beautiful · Unread post by **beautiful** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:15 pm

catherineyronwode wrote:"He's such a douche bag" is not a term of endearment. I think you need a better man, one whom you can love and trust.

You answered one of my previous questions (thanks!), but not the other:

Have you set a time limit for your work?

Catherine,

Thank you for investing your time to try to understand what's going on with my situation. I had a palm reading actually in the past 2 years by a man. I am sorry if I did not mention this part. This man he is in his 50s late 60s. Gifted, kind and helpful. He was also a friend to my aunt's family and had a great circle of clients. I was on vacation to visit my aunt so this is not in California but another state. What he did for me was he read my palm (which I allow a person to do so for the first time of my life) and he said a lot of things that were very true about me in finance, money and my life. Now for love and marriage, he pointed out that I have already met two of my life time committed soul mates. He said there was one who would be taller with light skin and the other who is shorter with darker skin. If I married the first option it would lead to a life time committed love marriage relationship but for this one I need to be patient for. The other option would be easy to talk to and the opposite of the first but our marriage would only be for short term.

When I asked him was this guy was one of the two? He answered yes but he was still involve with another woman. This man told me that I need to be patient because after two years, he will be mine. He sees that this guy really loves me even if he does not voice it he shows it and that is true. Now after two years I do see this starting to come true but just a lot of 'no movement action and etc.'

And the last question yes I have set a time limit for my work.

I know in my heart that there are plenty of fishes in the sea and I am not waiting for a miracle to happen between me and the target. I am going to allow another year to see if my palm reading comes true. If not I will move on and forget all about it. At this time I want to keep myself open to possibilities out there because I don't want to miss out on life missing out if target was not Mr. Right at all and could have been Mr. Wrong all along. I am seeing and dating other people at this time. I follow my mom's advice that if a man loves you, you don't have to have sex with them, they'll work for you and you'll see if they are the one or not. I made mistakes with the target and I have corrected myself already.

And the part about going from psychic to psychic well actually no I don't do that at all because I know there are too many fake ones these days. The most I do is talk to my friend who is gifted and a tarot reader. I only ask for his advice once in every one or two months.

One more thing I want to share with you all that with my first petition pink glass jar candle, prior to my second one, I saw the flame was really small and it took a very very long time for wax to melt. It was so tiny that you see more of the blue and barely any yellow flame. I thought this candle was not going to make and may extinguish itself but I was still confident and did some extra prayers for that day. The next day the candle was burning in a positive state. The flame came out it was about half an inch this time compare to less then a quarter of an inch before. (Phew!) After it burning for over 4 days it burned really well and there's little wax left at the bottom only which I see there may still be some "unfinish business" on his side but for the most part I believe it is going ok but who knows what might happens next. I am on my second candle by the way.

Aina2 · Unread post by **Aina2** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:33 pm

You can try a Love Me spell kit. Wasting another year to see results with that guy is entirely too long, btw. I see that you choose to ignore the advice of THREE ethical and experienced readers/rootworkers given to you here and go with the palm reader, because he said what you want to hear. If you MUST have him despite being such a "douche bag", you are bound to try.

beautiful · Unread post by **beautiful** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:47 pm

I am not ignoring anyone's advice. I am doing some work myself now and follow the rule of thumb 3 days, 3 weeks, 3 month etc etc. If it works great, if not hey I will move on thanks.

and I AM getting my first reading from a student of Catherine for the past ten years here in my town tomorrow morning FYI

beautiful · Unread post by **beautiful** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:48 pm

ConjureMan wrote:I think its important to also recognize this fact, even if the reader is right and this guy "loves" you he obviously is neither mature enough to appreciate that, nor decent enough to treat you well. What I see is that he turns to you for comfort when he's most vulnerable because he knows you're reliable, but then walks away to pursue what he desires. He's trying to have his cake and eat it to.

Speak to your reader in a consultation to find out what specific actions would be good for you.

Agree and will do.

route95 · Unread post by **route95** » Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:35 pm

Good luck with your reading and work!Everyone here has given you such great advice. I hope it all turns out well.

beautiful · Unread post by **beautiful** » Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:12 pm

Hello everyone. I got my reading today. She used cowrie shells to answer yes or no on my questions and all said yes to questions like, "does he have plans to be with me for the long run, does he love me, are his intentions pure for me, is he the one, will he marry me, does he care about me and etc." It was yes for all of the questions I asked such as the one above. She also stated that this man was a little bit slow.

We had a big reading done and she suggest that I work on other parts of my life such as my career. The most important thing is that this man is not going to go anywhere and he'll be mine.

It's a relief.

I know where I stand now.

Lily · Unread post by **Lily** » Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:12 pm

That is great news!

I hope things work for you the way you want them to, and the guy is truly worth the years you've spent waiting for him.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:00 am

That's great. Now, no matter who you went to for a reading -- and i understand the one you saw is a graduate of my course -- i would still ask you this: Did she encourage you to select a time-frame for your work, or have you selected a time-frame for your work on your own?

Willowspell · Unread post by **Willowspell** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:51 am

While I do sincerely hope that you gain what you are seeking. I would be extremely aware that on several occasions you made derogatory statements about this man that you are so desperately seeking commitment and affection from. "douche bag? arrogant? selfish?" saying things about this man is a major indication while you may feel sexually attracted to him and would prefer a stable relationship it is simply my opinion that regardless of what spell works you may enlist for assistance here may very well fall sort in the long run. ask yourself, "What qualities does this person have that indicate compatibility with me?" "why do I love him?" or has it gotten to a point where it is no longer about love and now simply a matter of "principle" that you have held on for so long, you feel you must have some kind of results in your favor?

Now I myself am in a VERY difficult situation with my husband. But if you are to look at ANY of my posts, not once do you see me calling him awful names. I love my husband. Even though I do not like what he is/ has done I would NEVER refer to him in such a way as you have about this man of yours.

But like others have stated, You will do what feels right for you. I know the feeling like you should still try. Been there. It just seems to me that instead of focusing your time drawing this man towards you perhaps consider changing your approach a bit and work more on healing yourself in life and in love so that you are available for something that is even quite possibly more then you ever expected. who knows? perhaps if you focus more on yourself and feeling better and being the person you want to be that it could be enough to "wake up" this man you desire.

We can not truly love someone else until we truly love our self.

I have seen that LM has many products that can assist in self healing. I hope you look into them a bit.

I am sorry if anything I said hurt or offended you in anyway. I just hope all the best for you. I call them like I see them.

Good Luck! and Blessed be your days

Willowspell · Unread post by **Willowspell** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:03 am

Sorry, I must have missed this last update from you prior to my post. LOL

I'm glad to hear that there is hope for your situation and wish you all the best! I would still be cautious though. It will probably be a bumpy road. and my suggestion of self healing still stands.

May the road rise to meet you!

beautiful · Unread post by **beautiful** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:11 pm

She recommended me the candle work and the honey jar with some specific ingredients. She wants me to work on these to see what happens first. If nothing then we can try other things. She did not talk about time frames with me but reference about some people's situation how it can take over 7 burning glass candles to get what they want etc. To wear an oil when I am close to him, and keep the honey jar going. That's about it.

She also said that he was already in process moving on from the ex too so I wouldn't have to do any break up work. Unfortunately I do not have a clue on how she looks like so I think a break up spell might not work if I don't have anything on her part except where she lives, her name, number and date of birth. LOL

Cat, What would you recommend in this case without any domination?

A love me spell kit, right?

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:20 pm

Sure, a Love Me spell kit might be of use.

But if you were my client, i would teach you to get control of your emotions before i encouraged you to practice conjure on your own -- because your moods, from "he's a douche bag" to "he loves me and i love him", are too wide a swing for me.

Then, when i add your fluctuating statements about your emotions to your statement that "he's drunk every time he comes around," the whole situation looks awfully unstable to me, and not like a solid base upon which to attempt to build a life of happiness.

beautiful · Unread post by **beautiful** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:43 pm

catherineyronwode wrote:Sure, a Love Me spell kit might be of use.

But if you were my client, i would teach you to get control of your emotions before i encouraged you to practice conjure on your own -- because your moods, from "he's a douche bag" to "he loves me and i love him", are too wide a swing for me.

Then, when i add your fluctuating statements about your emotions to your statement that "he's drunk every time he comes around," the whole situation looks awfully unstable to me, and not like a solid base upon which to attempt to build a life of happiness.

Yes that's true I should help myself first in a way.

He used to come over drunk in the beginning in the first year we knew each other after that he comes over sober. He holds me close to him when we sleep and kisses me. If he wanted sex I refuse him kindly. He shows me he loves me but he doesn't say those three magic words.

He tells me he wants to be in control and doesn't like a woman to run his life for him etc.

Is there a spell kit to break through his head for this? I know he acts like that because he had a really crazy ex girlfriend before who was very controlling and crazy. The type that cuts themselves and stalks you etc.

Any suggestions Cat to break his barrier down?

Aina2 · Unread post by **Aina2** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:14 pm

Two days ago you said there wasn't much communication between you two any more and he showed up only once in a blue moon. Here you are now, saying that he shows you that he loves you.

You can try the Love Me spell kit, as it was recommended several times to you on this very thread. Seems like you want to be in control of him and he is resistant. It could be easier to "break that barrier" once you establish a romantic relationship with him, so don't get ahead of yourself. However, if he doesn't like being bossed around by a chick in general, no matter how much he loves her, you may be in for a struggle. You can get a Nation Sack once you two start seeing each other again, but I would focus on bringing him around first.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:17 pm

Thank you, Aina, for the reality check.

Beautiful, you have posted so many contraditictions or rapid changes in the situation, this is becoming a difficult thread to respond to.

Aina2 · Unread post by **Aina2** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:25 pm

Miss Cat,

Thank you for the continuous inspiration and wisdom that you share with all of us here! Many of us owe our successes to your wise advice.

Willowspell · Unread post by **Willowspell** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:37 pm

It seems to me that there is a lot missing to this situation. It is extremely difficult to give sound advice and guidance when the person requesting the information keeps flip flopping on whats going on.

My suggestion: sit and write down exactly what has happened between the two of you over time,(Not to us to your self), Positive and negative. Then think about how you Really feel for this person write that down as well. Write out exactly what you want in a serious relationship. Can this man give this to you? can you give this to him? When I was seeking I wrote out a "What qualities I want in a man" list. do this from a general perspective do not try to make it suit this man in particular. Be honest with yourself in what you want! Try that. See how many qualities this man matches up to.

I seriously think that you should focus more on helping yourself move on happy and healthy. IT does not seem that there is a good foundation here to work from in this relationship. It sounds like you literally would have to attempt to change everything about him in order for him to suit you. That is not fair to either of you. And if he has a big problem with someone trying to control him. If you truly loved him the LAST thing you would want to do is force more unwanted controlling energy onto him.

I would not suggest your doing any conjure work until you sort out your mind and feelings.

Willowspell · Unread post by **Willowspell** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:39 pm

I have to completely agree with Ania. Thank you Miss Cat. You are amazing

beautiful · Unread post by **beautiful** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:50 pm

Ok let me put it this way:

In the first year of knowing each other we used to talk and after a few months I told him that I had feelings. Then he started to see me less and communication with me lessened. I was confuse at that time but today it makes sense why he would do that because he was already involve with his ex who I didn't know existed until I sneaked into his phone that year.

We stayed friends and I tried to be there for him expecting nothing. He gives me mix messages etc.

I knew everything about the ex but kept it to myself and he told me about it at the end of that year. He said he wasn't going back but unfortunately fell back into that relationship which ends one year later in 2009 because he was caught cheating with me. I had marks all over his neck the night before he was going to do something with her the next day. I didn't do that on purpose because he was doing it to me so why not do it back rofl. I had no idea she was coming over either. Until I saw those text messages a month later when he came over again. She's from another city 8 hours from here where I live.

That whole time he was like any guy who was 'trying to have his cake and eating it too." He was with her only for the wrong reasons and he tried to make up for it by buying her stuff etc. But it's over now between them.

About that seeing me once in a blue moon was in the past 2 years. But this year everything between him and I shifted to a different level of a deeper understanding thing but there isn't much happening either. I get the feeling like he still needs time to work that ex out of his system.

But after getting a reading from Jacqueline confirmed his feelings for me. Because there isn't much going on is because this guy is afraid to screw up with me. He does not want to lose me and etc and this reminds me of what he said before too. What happen will happen. I am just trying to find something that could help give it a small push into the right direction. But if it does not happen I am okay because I am seeing other people too. I don't want to waste my life waiting for a person who may not be the one for me.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:27 pm

I actually took a whole hour and sifted through all of your posts, beautiful, and i sorted your statements into general topic-headings. Now, if you read these through, -- and they are all from you -- you will see why several of us have said that you are contradicting yourself, flip-flopping, and otherwise describing the situation inconsistently.

1) What Beautiful says about him ("David")

Positive feelings:
I know my friend likes me
I know he cares about me
He does not want to ruin our friendship
he does not want to leave me
He does not want to lose me
this year everything between him and I shifted to a different level of a deeper understanding

Communication failures:
In the first year of knowing each other we used to talk
I told him that I had feelings [and then] communication with me lessened
He is a very secretive person
He shares some things with me
didn't know [his ex] existed until I sneaked into his phone that year.
I knew everything about the ex but kept it to myself
He does not know how to express his feelings nor does he likes to.
he does not like to express himself
There is not much communication at all.
there isn't much communication flowing between us anymore.
there isn't any communication at all between us
He doesn't communicate at all.

Trust and Betrayal issues
I feel like he doesn't trust me enough to love me
he's soooo afraid of getting hurt.
this guy is afraid to screw up with me
He also has commitment issues.
didn't know [his ex] existed until I sneaked into his phone that year.
he was caught cheating [on his ex].
he was like any guy who was 'trying to have his cake and eating it too."
He's been the type of guy that takes one step forward and two steps back.
in his own words, "I don't want to be control by a girl."
he won't allow himself to fall in love with me

Past Differences:
we did had some break downs before
I wanted a relationship and he didn't
I told him that I had feelings. Then he started to see me less

Alcohol
He always shows up drunk or pretending to be drunk once a night
He used to come over drunk in the beginning in the first year
he comes over sober.

Lack of Contact:
He only likes to show up at my place once in a blue moon
we see each other like once in a blue moon.
seeing me once in a blue moon was in the past 2 years
he would leave me alone for months and then come back and talk to me again.
he disappears [...] for a long time.
[He] disappears for months.
we see each other if lucky once in every 2 months
He'll do the routine disappear for 1-3 month and whatever
I told him that I had feelings. Then he started to see me less
[His staying away] really angers me

Sexual Disagreements:
He holds me close to him when we sleep and kisses me.
He only contacts me when he wants to get intimate
the only time he talks to me is when he wants to come over and get hot between the sheets
I have put a stop to this. I don't want a bed buddy
[a mere sexual connection is] not what I want
If he wanted sex I refuse him kindly.
I follow my mom's advice that if a man loves you, you don't have to have sex with them,

Resistance to Change:
he won't make any move
there is no action or movement what so ever
there is no action on his part at this point
but there isn't much happening
there isn't much going on
He shows me he loves me but he doesn't say those three magic words.
He's always saying that he wants to be friends and get to know me first
There is so much interferences between the two of us

Personality deficits
He's such a douche bag.
I am shock to believe that such douche bags exist.
he's not seeing [who] I am at all.
He has too much pride in himself
he puts his friends first
He says one thing and does another.
He is selfish and arrogant.
he is super stubborn
trying [to contradict his statements] will make him run into his cave
He is a good guy but just makes really stupid decisions.

2) What beautiful says about the man's "ex"

there is an ex he still can't move on from
he still cares and desires his ex
he was caught cheating [on the ex]
They are long distant
She's from another city 8 hours from here where I live.
I didn't know [his ex] existed until I sneaked into his phone that year.
I knew everything about the ex but kept it to myself
He said he wasn't going back but unfortunately fell back into that relationship
[They broke up a second time] in 2009 because he was caught cheating with me.
I had marks all over his neck the night before he was going to do something with her the next day.
I didn't do that on purpose because he was doing it to me so why not do it back rofl.
I had no idea she was coming over either.
he tried to make up for [cheating on her] by buying her stuff
He would send her presents and buy her expensive gifts
[he] Spends tons of money on her when she doesn't even ask for anything
He's trying hard to get her back after almost 2 years.
he's holding on to her for the wrong reasons only
He was with her only for the wrong reasons
he still needs time to work that ex out of his system.
His ex is not interested in going back to a relationship with him anymore
they have just been friends lately for the past two years
she doesn't really care
she's not attracted to him anymore.
she's dating someone else already
[she] doesn't give a $#!T about him

3) What Beautiful says about herself:

I have stayed friends with him
I have been such a supportive friend to him.
I have only stayed friends and have zero expectations.
I can see that I do make him happy
there is something that he and I can do so much more then friendship and lust
I want a real relationship that leads to commitment and marriage.
I just want his commitment and love.
I need something that will purely attract him to love me and desire a romantic relationship.
He knows that I love him and that I care
I don't want a bed buddy
[I don't want] to be a doormat.
[a mere sexual connection is] not what I want
I am not demanding for him to change over night
been beyond the limit of patient
I am not waiting for a miracle to happen between me and the target
I don't want to waste my life waiting for a person who may not be the one for me.
[He] angers me and then I love him at the same time.
I thought I can move on
I am really sick of this routine
[He] makes me so frustrated with him!
I want to put an end to this nonsense
I feel like we are cursed or something
I have no idea what is the right path to choose.
I am seeing and dating other people at this time.
I am seeing other people too

4) What beautiful has been told by psychics:

[he] is suppose to be my other half
He is definately a soul mate
I have already met two of my life time committed soul mates.
for this one I need to be patient for.
he was still involve with another woman.
Psychics tell me all the time that they aren't meant to be
[Psychics tell me] they will break up naturally
[reality check: if she's an EX, why do they need to break up?]
In 2008 i was told [...] they would separate by this year
he was already in process moving on from the ex too so I wouldn't have to do any break up work
he's not interested in a committed relationship with me because of his unstable financial issues
this guy really loves me even if he does not voice it
he know he loves me
a reading [...] confirmed his feelings for me
this man was a little bit slow.
this man is not going to go anywhere and he'll be mine.

Willowspell · Unread post by **Willowspell** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:46 pm

WOW Cathrine! your dedication to laying it all out there for this girl is amazing! As if I hadn't had a fantastic amount of respect for you already, this just moved it up a notch.

Look Beautiful. I know you have feelings for this person. What these feelings are defiantly completely uncertain. These are your own words. Think REALLY hard before you put any efforts towards this man.

I honestly do not see how this situation could end with the happily ever after that you seem to think you desire, sometimes... lol.

Please focus your energies on yourself.

route95 · Unread post by **route95** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:59 am

This is a great exercise I think anyone should do when considering if/when to move forward with someone. You laid it out well, Cat. THanks for sharing with us!

Also, beautiful, keep in mind that you were told that you have more than one soulmate. I know it sucks and can be scary to move on especially after investing so much time. However, good luck. Maybe by concentrating on yourself and your career everything could shift.

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:11 am

Now reread the incredible post that Miss Cat gave --again -- where she puts everything out on the table for understanding. It is deserving of acknowledgment and sincere appreciation.
Many of some of the best and The Best gave some great advice and food for thought in this entire thread.

Until you work on some issues of your own in both mind and spirit, the base foundation for this or any future relationship will not be solid. After resolving some of your own issues and opening up youself for a heathier, happier, trusting relationship, you might also discover it is time for a new beginning and a new chapter in your life.

Good luck to you.

beautiful · Unread post by **beautiful** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:39 am

Thank you everyone and cat for putting everything together. I agree, I need to focus on my needs now before I expect any love from anyone. It is good to be at a place where people care.

Willowspell · Unread post by **Willowspell** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:31 am

We do honestly care. I myself have felt more grounded as of late because of this forum and all of the wonderful people who take their time to help each other.

I have said this for many many years. "I know who I am, I love who I am. I have always tried my best to stay true to my intentions, intuition and promises. I will continue to learn and grow from my victories as well as my mistakes."

A personal "touchstone" I suppose you could say.

Keep us posted on your progress. Never stop asking questions. In every step in life there is a lesson to be learned. Continue to learn and grow.You will find great joy when you find love within and for yourself.

Blessed Be your days to come!

fiestyram · Unread post by **fiestyram** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:32 pm

Hi Beautiful-
Let me add this, as a customer of LM products for over 6 years, as an amateur practioner, and having Miss Cat read for me numerous times; please listen to her advice.
Not only does Miss Cat have a fantastic & uncanny ability as a reader, rootworker, entrepeneur, you name it, but she also has a lifetime of wisdom AND personal experience, of which she graciously shares.
What she says, is not only important for you to listen to and read, but to actually incorporate in your life and current situation.
She has never failed me with her advice, foresight, and compassion and TRUTH about situations. Never. Even though it may have not been what I wanted to hear at the time. And trust me when I say, I can be the thickest person around at times, however, I do know when Miss Cat tells me something, it's the way it is regardless of how I WANT it to be.
So with that, I'll get off my soapbox and wish you much luck and blessings!

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:07 pm

... very nice fiestyram and VERY TRUE!
and, beautiful, everyone here does care A LOT

Some of the Greatest Minds and BIGGEST WARM HEARTS of people from around the world.

beautiful · Unread post by **beautiful** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:48 pm

=) Yes! I am so thankful that I found a place where I can learn so much from. =)

niteraptor · Unread post by **niteraptor** » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:15 pm

In the last couple of days the people where hubby is staying found out their building didn't pass its inspection and they may have to move. hes trying to help everyone but his unemployed state and additctionproblems are weighing on him. now a friend out there has suddenly passed away.

just as things are looking up for me here, all the bad stuff seems to be starting to focus around him where he is.

he insists its just bad luck but Im beginning to wonder if my cleaning our house sent everything over to him.

is there anything anyone can suggest for this one?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:27 pm

The cleaning of your house did not all of a sudden send bad luck to him. If anything you need to cleanse him, and that is what you did not do obviously because you do not have access to wear he is. If he does not mind doing hoodoo tricks than you can send him a back of 13 herb mix, or a back of rue, kosher salt, and hyssop that he can use in his bath every night. If you want to buy a lucky mojo bath salt then you can do that as well. If not, then you can create a doll for him that is baptized as him and cleanse him in the bath that way, or you can do an egg cleansing. Follow up with some van van products, and do some other work to help him.

June · Unread post by **June** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:40 am

Hi, my boyfriend is switching apartments. I want him to get an apartment on his own. Right now, he is thinking about sharing an apartment. He wants to share because he moved to a new city and doesn't really know anyone and thinks a roommate can help him with a social life. I want him to get his own apartment because he's never lived alone and I think it will be good for him. It's time. He's in his 30s! He has maturity issues, which I knew but it also came out in a reading.

How can I get him to see it my way and how can I ensure he gets that apartment alone? I thought of commanding products but I want to work it from both ways meaning I want to also be sure that no shared apartments are available to him. So how can I work this from both angles?

thank you

Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:11 am

I see three angles here:

Prosperity: rents are high.
I Can, You Can't: http://www.luckymojo.com/oil-i-can-you-cant.html
Any kind of love drawing work, with the notion that "Baby, a place of your own means more privacy for you and me."

Hope this helps,

Miss Michaele

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:37 pm

I think Attraction and influence work.

A white skull candle loaded and then dressed with Influence and Compelling can help you get the suggestion firmly implanted in his head. Around this candle I'd set up helper lights dressed with Clarity and King Solomon's Wisdom so he can see how the decision to get his own place would be right for him.

Follow up by Attraction to help him find the perfect apartment that he'd absolutely *love* to have. A bit of Money Drawing, Prosperity, or Steady Work would go a long way too.

http://www.luckymojo.com/attraction.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/compelling.html

moonmaiden · Unread post by **moonmaiden** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:57 am

Merry meet once again everyone!

I need a little help with my situation, hopefully i can get some good advice (as i always do here)

Firstly,
I have been with my boyfriend for a bit of time now, we HAD been happily dating, when we decided to move in together. It was all going okay until i came to a realization i was not ready, which somehow led to splitting up, or something...We are still talking and very much want to be together, but he is hurting and also in a bad situation. So he has other things on his mind.

His two boys are staying with their mom at the moment, and hes just in a rut! He has virtually no money and doesn't have a stable line of work. THOSE were the main factors of why i was afraid of living with him.....He had just lost his job and is living pay to pay cheque doing temporary work. I really adore this man, i want to marry him, and have his children but i am someone who needs stability.

Pretty much i am wondering what can i do!?

I love this man, the bad and good, and even though he is closed off, i love it still. I just want him to get some stable money and a decent job so its less worry...It's at a point where i can't just cut my losses and move on. He is everything i have ever wanted (scary!) and i am willing to work for this. There are just problems along the way.

I am a tad worried because although we've been 'broken up' for about a week, today was the first day we didn't talk. He did not respond to me at all! Now i knew he'd be busy today but my insecure side is stepping out here....

When we first started dating i had a reading done, liked what i was hearing and proceeded, but since this situation change i have not had one, should i? I honestly believe once he gets some stable cash flow and job we will get back together, but is there a way to know for sure? ALSO am i able to help at all with spellwork if i am not around him? i HAVE considered letting him move in to where i am living currently (a cramped house) until we smooth things over.

WELL enough of this rant, please touch on any topics i have above mentioned and thanks in advance!!

Unread post by **JayDee** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:53 am

Im not sure are you in love with him or his money? Is money a specific requirement you have to be with a man? if you really do love him and just want to be with him then regardless of his job senario you would still be with him. There is a way to know forsure if you will be together and thats if you call him up and ask him to get back together. You broke up with him because he lost his job and is not ready and now you want to know how to get him back in love, honestly you made the mess. Of course a reading will help shed light on the situation and tell you what will happen and career advice for the ex bf. You can use the steady work spell kit to help him find a job that supports him and that he loves, you can dress his resume and applications with powders as well when sending them off to companys. you can also pray to st joesph to help him find a job.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:18 am

First off, YOU need to make up your mind. You have been broken up for a week, yet the previous week you felt you werent ready for this relationship right?

So i highly suggest that you work some clarity and king solomon wisdom on yourself so that you can help gain some clarity and make a good decision on what you want here.

www.luckymojo.com/products-clarity.html
www.luckymojo.com/kingsolomonwisdom.html

Next, why are you compromising your own values such as needing stability in a relationship, and having a man being able to take care of HIMSELF?

Those seems like important factors to you, and if he cannot maintain a job or take care of himself...then what are you waiting for? I would definitely move on. I dont see why you should help him move in especially if he is not trying to help himself.

So again, the clarity and wisdom is going to give you some insight if this is what you need and help you to see it clearly.

And you definitely should get a reading to see if this relationship is even worth it.

moonmaiden · Unread post by **moonmaiden** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:50 am

Hello everyone! I should be more clear

It is not about money, but we can't exactly move out if he has none, i just don't make enough to do that.

Technically i did not break up with him, i told him we should be apart so we can work on him, get him in a stable place so we can have a stable relationship.
I think i will try the steady work spell!

@starsinthesky7, i never felt i was not ready for the relationship. Just not to move out with him yet. It's not exactly my dream to move in with him and struggle with money and have it cause tension on the relationship. Also they are important factors to me, but prior to losing his job things were fine. Its just the money situation i am worried about with him, since we were splitting everything financially i just need to make sure he can do that because i can't pay for him....

I have had a reading as i stated, but it was before things took a turn. To me, this is the realtionship i want. He is everything i have wanted. So now i just need some advice on how to help him so we can be together.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:12 am

You need to get another reading as things have CHANGED.

I hate to say it...but finances do matter in a relationship. Not in the sense that someone must take care of you financially, but they must be able to take care of themselves.

You stated this in your very first paragraph

I have been with my boyfriend for a bit of time now, we HAD been happily dating, when we decided to move in together. It was all going okay until i came to a realization i was not ready, which somehow led to splitting up, or something...We are still talking and very much want to be together, but he is hurting and also in a bad situation. So he has other things on his mind.

So did you break things off because you werent ready? That is clearly stated in this paragraph, and you stated this lead to you breaking things off.

So that is why this needs to be addressed as there seems to be more than a money issue here.

Again, a reading is need to see if fixing his job troubles are going to actually do anything for this relationship.

moonmaiden · Unread post by **moonmaiden** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:48 am

Yes i agree, which is why im trying to help him get his life in order, so that we can have a life together.

BUT no, i said i was not ready to move in, which led to some sort of split, i never broke up with him. He was hurting and pulled away and we decided to focus on getting him on hid feet alone then worrying about us. I never once said i broke up with him, things just led to a split of some sort.

I think that for us to have a good stable relationship, he needs to be a stable person on his own two feet, thats why i am focusing on helping him so much, because the potential is there and in the end it will be worth it.

I will however get another reading, which the situation change it will probably help, thanks!

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:53 pm

Do a Steady Work spell for him and some Money Drawing or Wealthy Way work for yourself. If money is the main issue in your relationship, make it your priority.

MsHooDooPrincess · Unread post by **MsHooDooPrincess** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:48 am

What do I need to buy to remove evil spells on myself and him, repair our relationship/love, and for his alcohol addiction? Thanks

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:54 am

I'd suggest Uncrossing for any evil magic aimed at you, Cast Off Evil for his alcoholism, and Peaceful Home. For your relationship, Chupparosa, Adam and Eve, and/or Marriage.

Unread post by **Miss Ida Lundin** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:41 pm

I would suggest you get another reading from an AIRR reader and ask for suggestions of work that could be done to improve your situation. If the reading were with a reader at AIRR maybe you can get a followup with that person. If it were with another reader I strongly suggest you book an AIRR worker this time for some spiritual counseling. Perhaps having that worker and you do work together.

There are so many different things going on I think you could benefit from some assistance.
I hope things get better for you soon.