Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
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Allow me to begin by saying that I was directed to your site at - http://www.luckymojo.com/ - by a colleague and have found it to be a fascinating and enlightening site, I thank you for your work there.
I am a Ceremonial Magician, Thelemite, and Hellenic Pagan with an interest in Christian Magick and I have been considering adding the use of your spiritual baths to my ongoing practice; however I am somewhat confused on the proper timing of these. You have mentioned in your exhaustive writings that these baths should take place before dawn however due to my particular practice I am wondering if the act would retain its worth if performed during other times as I would like to align this to certain planetary hours.
I thank you in advance for what I am sure will be an illuminating response.
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Allow me to begin by saying that I was directed to your site at - http://www.luckymojo.com/ - by a colleague and have found it to be a fascinating and enlightening site, I thank you for your work there.
I am a Ceremonial Magician, Thelemite, and Hellenic Pagan with an interest in Christian Magick and I have been considering adding the use of your spiritual baths to my ongoing practice; however I am somewhat confused on the proper timing of these. You have mentioned in your exhaustive writings that these baths should take place before dawn however due to my particular practice I am wondering if the act would retain its worth if performed during other times as I would like to align this to certain planetary hours.
I thank you in advance for what I am sure will be an illuminating response.
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Re: Timing and Baths
In the traditions of conjure, as I learned them, the taking of a spiritual bath for cleansing or for drawing helpful things usually takes place with the dawn. There are other times when one would take ritual baths, and the hour or timing of the bath is not as indicated as being as important. For example, after performing a curse on someone, one would cleanse oneself of the evil act with a hyssop bath. It doesn't specify when it should be performed, other than, after you are finished, you should immediately go and cleanse yourself. Of course, if you are performing a curse, you might end up doing it at night, and it could take all night, and so your bath may very well end up being at dawn, come to think of it.
As there is a following of conjure folk who do follow magical timing (days, planetary hours, moon cycles and such) for doing their magical work, and the ritual bath is part of the magical work, I don't see why you couldn't time the magical bath for certain planetary hours that are conducive to your goal, using the appropriate bath products.
As there is a following of conjure folk who do follow magical timing (days, planetary hours, moon cycles and such) for doing their magical work, and the ritual bath is part of the magical work, I don't see why you couldn't time the magical bath for certain planetary hours that are conducive to your goal, using the appropriate bath products.
Re: Timing and Baths
Has anyone experienced a Rue, Rosemary and Basil bath?
According to LM website it is used to improve health matters, remove jinxes and for protection.
As for disposal I would think to throw in front yard because you want the work to strengthen, am I right?
Also is it thrown at sunset, to remove negativity, or when you complete the bath at sunrise?.
According to LM website it is used to improve health matters, remove jinxes and for protection.
As for disposal I would think to throw in front yard because you want the work to strengthen, am I right?
Also is it thrown at sunset, to remove negativity, or when you complete the bath at sunrise?.
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Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
I see the instructions for bathing with herbal bath crystals before sunrise....and I'm looking for some a little guidance. I'm wondering what the "before sunrise" window of opportunity entails...30 minutes, 1 hour, 2 hours or a little more?
At almost 42, I still work as a bartender in a nightclub Wed/Thurs/Fri/Sat nights...the schedule works while I'm working towards my Master's. Truth be told I still love the energy from the music too. Anyway I will be doing some conjure work on Friday...I bartend this Thurs and don't get home until sometime between 3am-4am Fridy morning. With that being said, I always hop in a shower to wash off the bar schmeg (liquor, beer, sweat, smoke etc...) and then finish unwinding with a cup of hot herbal tea before I crash. I was wondering if it would be appropriate to incorporate my spiritual bath at this time? Sunrise for this Friday is circa 6:08am...I'd be completing my task between 3:30-4:30. And there is a crossroad very nearby...so I can toss a basin of my bath water over my shoulder towards the sunrise and walk home and crawl into bed. Is this workable, or not close enough to sunrise?
Thanks ahead of time for your thoughts...
At almost 42, I still work as a bartender in a nightclub Wed/Thurs/Fri/Sat nights...the schedule works while I'm working towards my Master's. Truth be told I still love the energy from the music too. Anyway I will be doing some conjure work on Friday...I bartend this Thurs and don't get home until sometime between 3am-4am Fridy morning. With that being said, I always hop in a shower to wash off the bar schmeg (liquor, beer, sweat, smoke etc...) and then finish unwinding with a cup of hot herbal tea before I crash. I was wondering if it would be appropriate to incorporate my spiritual bath at this time? Sunrise for this Friday is circa 6:08am...I'd be completing my task between 3:30-4:30. And there is a crossroad very nearby...so I can toss a basin of my bath water over my shoulder towards the sunrise and walk home and crawl into bed. Is this workable, or not close enough to sunrise?
Thanks ahead of time for your thoughts...
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Re: timing of my bath...
jwmcclin,
That would be a sunrise bath, to bring in peace, power, and protection, and you would dispose of it in your front yard, to "mark" your property.
Kimberlyanne,
I'd think that be fine, also if your doing it Friday, would it by any chance be a love drawing bath or something of that sort? If so throw the water into your front yard rather then to a crossroads.
That would be a sunrise bath, to bring in peace, power, and protection, and you would dispose of it in your front yard, to "mark" your property.
Kimberlyanne,
I'd think that be fine, also if your doing it Friday, would it by any chance be a love drawing bath or something of that sort? If so throw the water into your front yard rather then to a crossroads.
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
What if I live in an apartment building and need to throw leftover bath water for love work?
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Re: timing of my bath...
cabriellenlil,
Works that are for drawing can be tossed onto your front lawn, if you don't have one, you can pour the water into a plant at the front of your house, I've been told. You can also dispose the water by tossing onto the foot tracks of your target .
Works that are for drawing can be tossed onto your front lawn, if you don't have one, you can pour the water into a plant at the front of your house, I've been told. You can also dispose the water by tossing onto the foot tracks of your target .
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Re: timing of my bath...
Turnsteel...it certainly is love work
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I have received my order from LM, which includes Chuparrosa & Marriage products. I already have a red bride & groom candle...so I figured I'd take a nice bath with the Chuparrosa Bath Crystals, burn a little incense, dress and light the candle while I wait on my order to do perform the other conjures we have discussed. At which time I will then use the Marriage Bath Crystals & Oil, Lodestones, White Bride & Groom Candle and the herb(s) blend(s) we had talked about.
BTW...Thank you for letting me know about dumping the water in my front yard instead of a crossroad. I live in a townhouse, and that will work perfectly! Should that be tossed to the east towards the sunrise as well? backwards over my shoulder or facing the sunrise? No looking back?
Just want to have as many of my ducks in a row as possible....
I have received my order from LM, which includes Chuparrosa & Marriage products. I already have a red bride & groom candle...so I figured I'd take a nice bath with the Chuparrosa Bath Crystals, burn a little incense, dress and light the candle while I wait on my order to do perform the other conjures we have discussed. At which time I will then use the Marriage Bath Crystals & Oil, Lodestones, White Bride & Groom Candle and the herb(s) blend(s) we had talked about.
BTW...Thank you for letting me know about dumping the water in my front yard instead of a crossroad. I live in a townhouse, and that will work perfectly! Should that be tossed to the east towards the sunrise as well? backwards over my shoulder or facing the sunrise? No looking back?
Just want to have as many of my ducks in a row as possible....
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That is all up to you, I would throw it towards the east personally, over your left shoulder, turn around, head inside and don't look back. You said you like to drink an herbal tea before bed yes? I suggest Cat Nip tea after your bath, its very good for drawing men and it helps you sleep betterkimberlyanne wrote:Should that be tossed to the east towards the sunrise as well? backwards over my shoulder or facing the sunrise? No looking back?
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Re: timing of my bath...
Hmmm...good to know. I will do just that...Cat Nip Tea it is!
AND I will throw it over my left shoulder, to the east...and directly in the house, up the stairs and into bed I will go!!! Am I safe in presuming that all will not be undone when I exit my front later morning/early afternoon? Weather here in Greensboro is suppose to be around 70...and since I don't have classes on Friday I was thinking about taking myself to the park for an afternoon of reading, yoga and a good walk!
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AND I will throw it over my left shoulder, to the east...and directly in the house, up the stairs and into bed I will go!!! Am I safe in presuming that all will not be undone when I exit my front later morning/early afternoon? Weather here in Greensboro is suppose to be around 70...and since I don't have classes on Friday I was thinking about taking myself to the park for an afternoon of reading, yoga and a good walk!
I am so blessed to be a part of this forum...and I am so thankful for your shared knowledge!!! Thanks
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Re: timing of my bath...
Conjur Man...I like the idea of putting water into his foot tracks. I will do just that next time I am with him in NY...or he comes to NC.
Could you also put the water in his foot tracks at his workplace? Might seem silly, but there is good reason for my question. My sweetie is involved in racing, both asphalt and dirt racing. Sometimes he's inside and this would probably get a little messy...and sometimes outside, like on race days. Dirt track would be interesting because it can get pretty muddy, and I could defiantly see the demarcation of his footprints. Does the direction of a foot track matter? Not sure if there is significance in walking towards or walking away from...
Thank you for your input!
Could you also put the water in his foot tracks at his workplace? Might seem silly, but there is good reason for my question. My sweetie is involved in racing, both asphalt and dirt racing. Sometimes he's inside and this would probably get a little messy...and sometimes outside, like on race days. Dirt track would be interesting because it can get pretty muddy, and I could defiantly see the demarcation of his footprints. Does the direction of a foot track matter? Not sure if there is significance in walking towards or walking away from...
Thank you for your input!
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Re: timing of my bath...
For any work to draw something to you, the bath water can be poured outside the front door. If you live in an apartment, save a little and dripple it all the way up the stairs so that the last drops falls on your threshold...or all the way in to your bed, if you are drawing something all the way there.
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Re: timing of my bath...
so if you are trying to banish something you would throw it away from where you live at a crossroads no where near your property? and I am assuming towards the west since HD mentioned East. Just trying to get it right myself 
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Re: timing of my bath...
If it was connected with something severe I would throw it far from my property, yes. If it was a part of a weekly cleansing or a minor issue, I usually settle for the toilet or a nearby tree. Personally I throw things I want to have removed towards the north. But then I am following the Scandinavian tradition and not Conjure.
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Re: timing of my bath...
Thank you for your kind reply Johannes. I got a 13 herb bath thats why I wanted to make sure.

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Re: timing of my bath...
Mission accomplished...the bath part anyway. This was the first time I've used any of the bath crystals (for this occasion I used Churparrosa), and I have to say that the aroma is/was divine and my skin feels incredible! Enjoyed my Cat Nip Tea....and slept like a baby.
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Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
I have been told I should have a reconciliation bath at dawn for 3 days (Fri, Sun, Tue), problem is dawn is 05:00am and my central heating system is so loud it wakes my family up. Would I be able to bath at 7:00am which is 2hrs after dawn?
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You should follow traditional timing if you want to do things right. As many people before have suggested, if you're THAT concerned about being a bit chilly, then buy a small space heater. You can get decent ones for like $10 if you look around.
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
Yeah I suppose I could keep the water from the night before in some bottles to fill the bath, saves making a noise when turning the water on.
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
You don't need that much water at all if you bathe with a bucket (which is how I do it), so you should be able to work this out.
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
You will not regret following the traditional timing. There is a certain beauty and power behind waking up before dawn, taking a spiritual bath while calling out the Spirit and finally disposing of the bath water.
Plus you'll smell great the rest of the day after you air dry.
Plus you'll smell great the rest of the day after you air dry.
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
I can't wait to start the bath, just waiting on instructions.
I had rootwork done for me and since the spell my thoughts have been quite negative, I'm thinking the thoughts I am having are the same as the target, so hoping the bath will remove these.
I had rootwork done for me and since the spell my thoughts have been quite negative, I'm thinking the thoughts I am having are the same as the target, so hoping the bath will remove these.
Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
I'm curious about something to do with ritual baths, particularly cleansing ones.
Is there any consensus on whether they need to be done late at night before going to bed or very early in the morning after waking?
I understand the midnight to six am is when they should be done.
I ask because I was raised in a house with very specific ideas about being 'clean' and having everything 'clean' before sleeping, so it feels 'right' for me to do the bath and disposing of the water before going to bed rather than waiting until I wake up.
Is there any consensus on whether they need to be done late at night before going to bed or very early in the morning after waking?
I understand the midnight to six am is when they should be done.
I ask because I was raised in a house with very specific ideas about being 'clean' and having everything 'clean' before sleeping, so it feels 'right' for me to do the bath and disposing of the water before going to bed rather than waiting until I wake up.
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
Traditional hoodoo says you should do it right before sunrise (I think that's what I read here).
And, the bath isn't so much about physical cleanliness. If you want to be clean then take a regular bath or shower before bed, but I'd get up and do the ritual bath in the early morning.
Ruth.
And, the bath isn't so much about physical cleanliness. If you want to be clean then take a regular bath or shower before bed, but I'd get up and do the ritual bath in the early morning.
Ruth.
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It's not just about physical cleanliness in the way I was raised. There was definitely a spiritual aspect to it as well, and as I said, that spiritual aspect is what is so ingrained in me to this day.
And I'm more than capable of taking a regular bath or shower before bed.
And I'm more than capable of taking a regular bath or shower before bed.
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
If it's that important to you then you should do it when you feel you need to. I often change spells based on my instincts about a particular method or ingredient. But, traditional hoodoo as is taught here says to do it in the morning.
Ruth.
Ruth.
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
Obviously there are no magical police that are going to come to your house and arrest you for taking your cleansing baths before bed.
Other traditions may have different timing for baths -- however, in hoodoo, spiritual bathing is done just prior to sunrise.
Other traditions may have different timing for baths -- however, in hoodoo, spiritual bathing is done just prior to sunrise.
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Thank you Devi. I'm a night person to begin with and that combined with a traditional 9-5 job, plus some health issues that already make getting proper rest difficult, I'm finding it easier to do them and dispose of the water before bed, rather than attempting to wake up 'too early' then dealing with the physical repercussions during the day.
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
Maljen,
Either you wish to follow our traditions or not. Our traditions are firmly, deeply ("concensus-wise") committed to bathing "soon in the morning," AT SUNRISE.
You know, as Devi said, 'there are no hoodoo police," but, also, as Ken Kesey said, "You're either ON the bus or OFF the bus."
Thanks for considering that this is not a make-it-up-and-do-what-feels-good tradition, but a living, culturally defined, respected tradition which it is not your place to remake in your own image.
Either you wish to follow our traditions or not. Our traditions are firmly, deeply ("concensus-wise") committed to bathing "soon in the morning," AT SUNRISE.
You know, as Devi said, 'there are no hoodoo police," but, also, as Ken Kesey said, "You're either ON the bus or OFF the bus."
Thanks for considering that this is not a make-it-up-and-do-what-feels-good tradition, but a living, culturally defined, respected tradition which it is not your place to remake in your own image.
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
As for being clean before bed...I've always understood that you should be physically clean before beginning a cleansing bath i.e. you don't want to take a bath, shampoo your hair and rinse it in the bathwater, and then add your bath crystals to this and cleanse with the mix, etc; so taking your normal bathing routine in the evening and then waking before dawn to take your spiritual bath should be appropriate.
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Right on, GoddessMojo!
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
And here's my opinion:


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^^^ LOL That is wonderful! Hoodoo-meme is the "wave of the future!" Hee, hee...
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Bathing at Sunrise
Does an uncrossing need to be done only at sunrise? I am in the process of doing an uncrossing bath cleansing and the problem for me is that I work at night and do not get up until the mid afternoon.
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Can I do the 13 day 13 herb baths at night?
Hi all,
I would like to start the 13 day 13 herb baths. I want to know 2 questions:
1) Can I bath at night, save a portion of bath water, and dump it at a crossroads the next morning before dawn? Technically the bath is at night, which is before dawn (I have no time to do this ritual and get ready for work, so can I bath around 8pm on, let's say a Thursday night, and dump the water on Friday morning before dawn?)
2)What day would be best for me to start the baths (Sunday, Monday, etc.?
Thanks in advanced for all the replies and advice
I would like to start the 13 day 13 herb baths. I want to know 2 questions:
1) Can I bath at night, save a portion of bath water, and dump it at a crossroads the next morning before dawn? Technically the bath is at night, which is before dawn (I have no time to do this ritual and get ready for work, so can I bath around 8pm on, let's say a Thursday night, and dump the water on Friday morning before dawn?)
2)What day would be best for me to start the baths (Sunday, Monday, etc.?
Thanks in advanced for all the replies and advice
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Re: Can I do the 13 day 13 herb baths at night?
1. I think you should be fine with dumping the water before dawn the next morning. To my recollection, I think you are doing it the right way as long as you dump the water before the next morning.
http://www.luckymojo.com/baths.html
2. You can start the baths as soon as possible, but if you have time to wait then I would do it on Sunday.
http://www.luckymojo.com/baths.html
2. You can start the baths as soon as possible, but if you have time to wait then I would do it on Sunday.
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Re: Bathing at sunrise
Generally speaking you'll hear the sunrise timing for all spiritual bathing.
However, there are other traditional forms of timing. One of them is working by sunrise for drawing works or works of increase, and by the sunset for banishing works or works of decrease. By that system of timing, sunset would be an ideal time to do your Uncrossing baths, throwing the water into the crossroads towards the West and the setting sun when you dispose of it.
Also, I just noticed you posted this same question in the Spiritual Bathing thread. Please do not double-post, as it is against the forum Terms of Service and makes extra work for us mods who have to wrangle your posts and bundle them together into the right places.
However, there are other traditional forms of timing. One of them is working by sunrise for drawing works or works of increase, and by the sunset for banishing works or works of decrease. By that system of timing, sunset would be an ideal time to do your Uncrossing baths, throwing the water into the crossroads towards the West and the setting sun when you dispose of it.
Also, I just noticed you posted this same question in the Spiritual Bathing thread. Please do not double-post, as it is against the forum Terms of Service and makes extra work for us mods who have to wrangle your posts and bundle them together into the right places.
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Re: Can I do the 13 day 13 herb baths at night?
Bathing at dawn is bathing at dawn. To save time, make the bath-tea the night before and heat it in the morning.
Your post has been added to the Bathing at Dawn Litany of Excuses Thread. The answer never changes.
The sun comes up at sunrise. When we say "bathe at sunrise," we mean, "bathe at sunrise."
If we did NOT mean for you to "bathe at sunrise," we would tell you some other time of day or night to bathe -- but we don't tell you some other time to bathe. We say, "Bathe at sunrise."
Your post has been added to the Bathing at Dawn Litany of Excuses Thread. The answer never changes.
The sun comes up at sunrise. When we say "bathe at sunrise," we mean, "bathe at sunrise."
If we did NOT mean for you to "bathe at sunrise," we would tell you some other time of day or night to bathe -- but we don't tell you some other time to bathe. We say, "Bathe at sunrise."
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
I like the name of this thread. Well said cat!
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
Okay. I understand. So I wiil bathe at sunrise, and I made the tea last night, (Sunday) and planned on waking up Monday to do the ritual bath. However, I woke up sick and decided to do the bath tomorrow morning. Can I still use the tea I brewed Sunday night for Tuesday morning? (It's been in my refrigerator untouched since I brewed it). Or should I throw it out and brew a new batch?
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
Sure, you can save the tea in the refrigerator.
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
Thank you Cat 
Bathing Before Dawn
Hello all,
I was just wondering when we bathe before dawn, does it have to be just before dawn?
Or can we bathe, let's say midnight, save the water in a jar and take it to a crossroads either at midnight or dawn?
Thanks
I was just wondering when we bathe before dawn, does it have to be just before dawn?
Or can we bathe, let's say midnight, save the water in a jar and take it to a crossroads either at midnight or dawn?
Thanks
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
To bathe at sunrise, and take the bathwater (or a portion) to the crossroads and/or pour it to the East are not abitrary details in Hoodoo bath working. These elements are deep in the tradition, and very very old. Some say they may go back past the Middle Passage to Africa, with the emphasis on the sunrise being a reference to the old worship of the Sun. In like manner offering the bathwater to the crossroads may very well go back to the ancient African customs of pouring out libations to the crossraods spirit. Since the baht rite is similar in many ways (including it's emphasis on sunrise) to Jewish ritual baths, some have speculated that both the Hoodoo rite and the Jewish rite go back to ancient Egypt. In any event, when you follow the Hoodoo bath rite according to the tradition, you are participating in a very ancient custom. And, if you follow the rite as it is traditionally observed, then you are also helping in preserving that rite.
Think about it: this ritual survived slavery. That's pretty amazing!
So, to make a long story short, if you're going make changes to something this old, with this much meaning in all it's parts, then it better be for a really good reason, and not just because of a desire to not be personally inconvenienced.
My two cents. Said in love.
Think about it: this ritual survived slavery. That's pretty amazing!
So, to make a long story short, if you're going make changes to something this old, with this much meaning in all it's parts, then it better be for a really good reason, and not just because of a desire to not be personally inconvenienced.
My two cents. Said in love.
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
And very WELL said, Jibrael! Thank you.
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
Hello all,
Thanks for the replies.
Having full respect for the traditional rites, I'm just looking for some clarity.
No it's not bathing at midnight out of convenience.
It's because I work from 2 am onwards, sometimes way past the sunrise.
So, what I was thinking was, if I were to bathe before work and keep the water with me to throw just before dawn.
I'm just wondering if that is okay.
Thanks for the replies.
Having full respect for the traditional rites, I'm just looking for some clarity.
No it's not bathing at midnight out of convenience.
It's because I work from 2 am onwards, sometimes way past the sunrise.
So, what I was thinking was, if I were to bathe before work and keep the water with me to throw just before dawn.
I'm just wondering if that is okay.
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
I'm doing some love work. I'd like to do two baths in order to further this-- a cleansing bath or a gentle love-drawing bath (Come to Me, something like that) in addition to something stronger and more coercive, some sort of Love Me or Follow Me, Boy bath. I feel like one bath directly after another is silly and maybe even ineffective. What I'd like to do is take the cleansing bath/gentler bath in the evening before I got to sleep-- give it a chance to set, soak in, and maybe even affect my dreams-- and then take the second bath upon waking first thing before dawn.
Would this work, or is it better to simply take the two baths one after another somehow?
Would this work, or is it better to simply take the two baths one after another somehow?
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
prayerandwill --
It is traditional to bathe at sunrise.
Your concept about how you want to "give it a chance to set, soak in, and maybe even affect my dreams" is your attempt to force a well-known, oft-used, and well-loved tradition into YOUR imaginative scenario. Feel free to do so, i mean, go ahead and knock your self out.
But please don't expect me to say, "Sure, honey, that's exactly what i meant all along when i said 'bathe at sunrise' -- i really meant 'bathe right before you go to sleep.' Because that ISN'T what i said and it ISN'T what i meant.

I am telling you to do the cleansing bath once, at dawn.
After that, i am telling you to perform the love-drawing bath either daily at dawn or at least weekly at dawn until you find love.
Good luck and blessings.
It is traditional to bathe at sunrise.
Your concept about how you want to "give it a chance to set, soak in, and maybe even affect my dreams" is your attempt to force a well-known, oft-used, and well-loved tradition into YOUR imaginative scenario. Feel free to do so, i mean, go ahead and knock your self out.
But please don't expect me to say, "Sure, honey, that's exactly what i meant all along when i said 'bathe at sunrise' -- i really meant 'bathe right before you go to sleep.' Because that ISN'T what i said and it ISN'T what i meant.

I am telling you to do the cleansing bath once, at dawn.
After that, i am telling you to perform the love-drawing bath either daily at dawn or at least weekly at dawn until you find love.
Good luck and blessings.
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
Thank you =) I appreciate the reality check. Two days at dawn it is, plus additional baths as needed.
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
Ok I want to start with I'm not trying to make excuses. I am looking for honest clarification, do to my own lack of understanding of what I have read.
I got on here to ask one question and got another one I was not expecting, which was extremely helpful. Thanks to everyone who posted, and thanks for all the reply's.
My spell say's: "Take a bath "Before Dawn" then carry the basin of bath-water to a crossroads and throw the water over your left shoulder toward the sunrise in the East."
It say's before Dawn (So, obviously I can translate that to just before sunrise, thanks to all the replies), but when it says throw it over your left shoulder toward the sunrise, does that mean exactly at sunrise? Toward the Sunrise would mean to me that the sun is actually coming up??? Am I correct??
I want to make sure I'm reading this correctly. That would give me just enough time to finish my bath before sunrise (just before dawn, keeping it mind it say's to air dry, and dress before I leave for the cross roads), then get to the cross roads as the sun is actually rising, and toss it over my shoulder into the rising sun.
I just ordered the 13 Herb Bath as well, so this question should apply to that order when it gets here as well, or do I bath with that spell AT SUNRISE, and then just go straight to the cross roads.
I wake every day, happily at 3am, so I don't care how early, I just want to do it right, the proper Hoodoo Way.
Thanks
Battie Vamp (I love bats)...
I got on here to ask one question and got another one I was not expecting, which was extremely helpful. Thanks to everyone who posted, and thanks for all the reply's.
My spell say's: "Take a bath "Before Dawn" then carry the basin of bath-water to a crossroads and throw the water over your left shoulder toward the sunrise in the East."
It say's before Dawn (So, obviously I can translate that to just before sunrise, thanks to all the replies), but when it says throw it over your left shoulder toward the sunrise, does that mean exactly at sunrise? Toward the Sunrise would mean to me that the sun is actually coming up??? Am I correct??
I want to make sure I'm reading this correctly. That would give me just enough time to finish my bath before sunrise (just before dawn, keeping it mind it say's to air dry, and dress before I leave for the cross roads), then get to the cross roads as the sun is actually rising, and toss it over my shoulder into the rising sun.
I just ordered the 13 Herb Bath as well, so this question should apply to that order when it gets here as well, or do I bath with that spell AT SUNRISE, and then just go straight to the cross roads.
I wake every day, happily at 3am, so I don't care how early, I just want to do it right, the proper Hoodoo Way.
Thanks
Battie Vamp (I love bats)...
Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
Hello, Battievamp!
Yes! You got it
Take care
Yes! You got it
Take care
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
Hey guys I have gotten a little confused reading this thread. Today I just took an uncrossing bath at Sunrise. Was this wrong or should I have waited till sunset to do this? (I was taught that if you do bath at Sunrise or in the morning to work by clock i.e if the clock is moving down to banish, and if moving up to draw things to you)
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
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Nope, do it at dawn. Throw bathwater at sunrise in crossroads, walk away without looking back at it.
When I originally learned spiritual bathing it was through Mayan traditions who do spiritual bathing traditionally in the evening, and a tradition that does spiritual bathing at full and new moons. I have grown to really appreciate the Hoodoo traditional bathing at sunrise and find it a really powerful way to start the day. I am not an early riser either. If I can do it, anybody can
Nope, do it at dawn. Throw bathwater at sunrise in crossroads, walk away without looking back at it.
When I originally learned spiritual bathing it was through Mayan traditions who do spiritual bathing traditionally in the evening, and a tradition that does spiritual bathing at full and new moons. I have grown to really appreciate the Hoodoo traditional bathing at sunrise and find it a really powerful way to start the day. I am not an early riser either. If I can do it, anybody can
Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
Hmm, I'm discovering something quite interesting about taking spiritual baths. Has anyone else noticed that the spirits will wake your butt up when you're procrastinating on cleansing. Their favorite time to wake me seems to be between 3-4 a.m. : If I don't do what I'm supposed to, I'm up for the day. Take the bath & I get to go back to sleep (like a baby). No cutting corners for me 
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
Hello, AlyssaH,
That's great!
WOW!
That's great!
WOW!
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
Greetings!
I am fairly new to the forum and have been looking around for several weeks learning. I am learning so much! I am completely new to hoodoo and - based on the responses of the seasoned practitioners to some questions - I have been reading way too much on the internet by people who are not as faithful to hoodoo and are re-creating it as they see fit. Because of that, I have a question… I will be completing the Look Me Over Spell and I plan on following it to the "T" and wish to get the best results. The part about the bath: air-drying: I have really dry skin and always have to put moisturizer on my skin after bathing. Could I use an unscented oil to moisturize my skin so as to not to interfere with the work (grape seed, hemp,…) or should I just suck it up and endure dry skin for the day? (I won't mind if this is the recommendation because I trust in Lucky Mojo products.) Could I add a bit of the Look Me Over oil to the carrier oil if one is permissible for me to use?
I look forward to your response(s)!
By the way, on the day the I received my order from LM, I noticed a ladybug on my window screen in my living room! That makes me happy!
I am fairly new to the forum and have been looking around for several weeks learning. I am learning so much! I am completely new to hoodoo and - based on the responses of the seasoned practitioners to some questions - I have been reading way too much on the internet by people who are not as faithful to hoodoo and are re-creating it as they see fit. Because of that, I have a question… I will be completing the Look Me Over Spell and I plan on following it to the "T" and wish to get the best results. The part about the bath: air-drying: I have really dry skin and always have to put moisturizer on my skin after bathing. Could I use an unscented oil to moisturize my skin so as to not to interfere with the work (grape seed, hemp,…) or should I just suck it up and endure dry skin for the day? (I won't mind if this is the recommendation because I trust in Lucky Mojo products.) Could I add a bit of the Look Me Over oil to the carrier oil if one is permissible for me to use?
I look forward to your response(s)!
By the way, on the day the I received my order from LM, I noticed a ladybug on my window screen in my living room! That makes me happy!
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
Hi MsTiye,
Welcome to the forum! If you haven't already done so (and assuming you wish to), please introduce yourself in the Introductions thread.
This is a wonderful forum for learning about hoodoo practices and how to employ Lucky Mojo products in your spell work. I'm so glad you are finding it useful and informative.
The Look Me Over spell is fantastic and it is encouraging that you wish to follow it precisely for the best results. You should allow yourself to air dry after the bath, as this is traditional in all hoodoo bathing practices. After you are completely dry, you could add some of the Look Me Over oil to a base carrier oil like grapeseed, or to an unscented moisturizer, and moisturize yourself with it to tend to your dry skin. It would keep the energy of the spell going, and you could always consider that as a daily moisturizer afterwards.
Good luck.
Welcome to the forum! If you haven't already done so (and assuming you wish to), please introduce yourself in the Introductions thread.
This is a wonderful forum for learning about hoodoo practices and how to employ Lucky Mojo products in your spell work. I'm so glad you are finding it useful and informative.
The Look Me Over spell is fantastic and it is encouraging that you wish to follow it precisely for the best results. You should allow yourself to air dry after the bath, as this is traditional in all hoodoo bathing practices. After you are completely dry, you could add some of the Look Me Over oil to a base carrier oil like grapeseed, or to an unscented moisturizer, and moisturize yourself with it to tend to your dry skin. It would keep the energy of the spell going, and you could always consider that as a daily moisturizer afterwards.
Good luck.
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
Miss Athena,
Yes, I've posted in Introductions; I made sure that was the first thing I did..
Thank you for your response and the idea of using Look Me Over as a daily moisturizer.
Yes, I've posted in Introductions; I made sure that was the first thing I did..
Thank you for your response and the idea of using Look Me Over as a daily moisturizer.
MsTiye
Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
I usually use an oil after I bathe, or add it to an unscented moisturizer. If I take the 13 Herb bath, I use Uncrossing or Protection oil after. It's important to apply the oils properly though. When I use Uncrossing I apply the oil so that I'm sending the energy outward; towards the hands for the arms / upper torso, towards the feet/ground for the legs / lower torso. You want to apply Look Me Over in an inward drawing motion, since you're drawing in attention.
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Re: Bathing at Dawn (the Litany of Excuses Thread)
Thank you, AlyssaH, I didn't even think about how to apply the oil.
MsTiye


