Spells to Influence, Overcome Resistance, and Change Someone's Mind

LMFan · Unread post by **LMFan** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:37 am

What combination of oils would you recommend to Change Someone's mind? Any recommendations would be appreciated!
Thanks

Unread post by **carolina_dean** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:33 pm

Hi LMFan,

Without knowing the specifics of the situation I would generally say a 50/50 mixture of Controlling Oil and Compelling Oil. You can read more about each of these products here...

http://www.luckymojo.com/oil-controlling.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/compelling.html

Carolina Dean
56 (G)

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:00 pm

influence oil...bend over and do as i say oils are good too

LMFan · Unread post by **LMFan** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:35 am

This is my first foray into mixing my own oil combinations.. I'm doing Influence and Road Openener.. The first to influence a change of heart and the second to open the way for it to happen? I'm thinking maybe I'll add a little Controlling to it now

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:23 pm

add controlling oil, calamus or licorice root

LMFan · Unread post by **LMFan** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:30 am

Thanks Stars.. I added some controlling oil last night, candle is burning like a house a fire!Not sure if that's good or not-- I'll let you know if/ what happens

LMFan · Unread post by **LMFan** » Sun May 03, 2009 7:30 am

Thanks! It feels good..

LMFan · Unread post by **LMFan** » Sat May 16, 2009 6:40 am

Well update.. it's been 2 weeks with nothing -- I'm thinking maybe I need to up the ante a little bit -- maybe use a 7 day Vigil candle instead. Any recommendations?

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sat May 16, 2009 7:06 am

I am not familiar with 'influencing" oil. Is this for love? pay back of money?

Unread post by **Literarylioness** » Sat May 16, 2009 12:18 pm

jwmcclin wrote:I am not familiar with 'influencing" oil. Is this for love? pay back of money?

It can be used for any situation where you want to influence the thoughts of others. Here is the link to the oil: http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatspells.html

Mary

kechara · Unread post by **kechara** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:50 am

Ok my last topic post got a bit long so since I’m sure my first order with LM is going to be a big order again I want to make sure I am purchasing supplies that I need.

Have a situation where I want a person to change his mind/decision to go on a trip with someone. I want my uncle not to go on this trip with his wife, no amount of discussing, pleading and asking him not to go has gotten me nowhere. I want to change his decision of yes we are going to such and such a place to a big fat NO WE ARE NOT GOING on this trip.

Read on a few other topic threads that Do As I Say, Influence & Essence of Bend Over oils would both be ideal to anoint a piece of paper with said person’s name and place the anointed paper in their shoes, not sure if I read those topics well enough but is there another way to conduct a trick of this type in a another discreet way…maybe anointing a purple taper candle with my uncle’s name on it with all 3 of those dressing oils and take the remainder of the purple candle wax and place it in both his shoes ( or do I place it in his right or left shoe??), would that be enough to change his mind????

Thank you all again for fielding my questions.

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:13 am

kechara wrote:\
Read on a few other topic threads that Do As I Say, Influence & Essence of Bend Over oils would both be ideal to anoint a piece of paper with said person’s name and place the anointed paper in their shoes, not sure if I read those topics well enough but is there another way to conduct a trick of this type in a another discreet way…maybe anointing a purple taper candle with my uncle’s name on it with all 3 of those dressing oils and take the remainder of the purple candle wax and place it in both his shoes ( or do I place it in his right or left shoe??), would that be enough to change his mind????

Thank you all again for fielding my questions.

You put the name paper in YOUR shoe, so every step you take your walking all over them, not in there shoe.(Tho there are many many many tricks where you do get something into their shoe.)
And you tell the person what you want, so if you think you can look your uncle in the eye and order him not to go on a trip with his wife then go for it...

I would do a skull candle, name the skull candle for you uncle, load it with some of his hair, dress it with Commanding oil and burn it over nine nights when he is asleep and tell the candle what you want as if it was your uncle.

kechara · Unread post by **kechara** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:23 am

HailDiscordia wrote:
You put the name paper in YOUR shoe, so every step you take your walking all over them, not in there shoe.(Tho there are many many many tricks where you do get something into their shoe.)
And you tell the person what you want, so if you think you can look your uncle in the eye and order him not to go on a trip with his wife then go for it...

I would do a skull candle, name the skull candle for you uncle, load it with some of his hair, dress it with Commanding oil and burn it over nine nights when he is asleep and tell the candle what you want as if it was your uncle.

Unfortunately Hail I'm gonna have to stick to tape candles (cause I can't keep too many big spell ingredients products hidden in my room).
I have plenty of purple ones that I am going to divide up into 7 knobs but my question is: Are Do As I Say, Influence & Essence of Bend Over oils enough to get this decision to come out NO to the trip after burning the purple candle 7 days also is there a specific cycle of time I need to follow like moon cycles to make my spell last long and more potent or do I need to keep lighting candles every day to keep his answer still NO???

Thank you so much for you help again Hail.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:21 am

If you are unable to work a skull candle I'd burn a purple candle carved with your intent and dressed with commanding oils (Essence of Bend Over, Do As I Say or another of your choice) on his picture.

Get yourself some of the sachet powders and sprinkle where he will walk.

Good luck!

kechara · Unread post by **kechara** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:12 pm

ConjureMan wrote:If you are unable to work a skull candle I'd burn a purple candle carved with your intent and dressed with commanding oils (Essence of Bend Over, Do As I Say or another of your choice) on his picture.

Get yourself some of the sachet powders and sprinkle where he will walk.

Good luck!

ConjureMan I am going over my list of anointing oils I am going to purchase for this candle spell...

would you be able to tell me which combination of these oils are most strong to change a person's mind from a yes to a no... there is Essence of Bend Over, Do As I Say, Influence Oil, Compelling Oil, & Commanding Oil? Which of these oil or oils pack an decision altering kick?

Not sure how many of these I even need...

Lucylookingskyward · Unread post by **Lucylookingskyward** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:29 pm

Hi, Kechara!

If I wanted to change someone's mind I use a scull candle fully loaded with hair of the intended, Do As I Say Oil, Commanding Oil, Influence Oil, various herbs of mastery, and a petition paper. You can also load up a regular purple candle in the same way. I would also get the sachet powders that correspond to the oils I listed above, and sprinkle them in key places where you know your uncle is going to tread. This is also easier for you to hide in shoes.

I like the format of the honey jar petition paper, with the names crossed (In this case, since you're looking to master someone, his name first three times, yours crossed over it three times, and the command in an unbroken circle surrounding it) mostly because it encircles the target with your will.

In addition to doing these things, it might suit your purposes to create a bottle spell like the one I mentioned (search "easiest bottle spell in the world") to strengthen your spell. Doing this spell together with others sometimes helps focus intent all the more, as you'll be interacting with the bottle spell as well as allowing your other ritual to work.

Good luck! I hope all works out for you.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:07 pm

Which oils you use its up to you. Contemplate the different qualities of each and pick the one that suits your needs; Influence=gets people to listen and agree with you, gives you sway over them etc; Essence of Bend Over= dominates them and gets them to "bend" to your will etc etc.

kechara · Unread post by **kechara** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:23 am

ConjureMan wrote:Which oils you use its up to you. Contemplate the different qualities of each and pick the one that suits your needs; Influence=gets people to listen and agree with you, gives you sway over them etc; Essence of Bend Over= dominates them and gets them to "bend" to your will etc etc.

Ok Conjureman that why I askebfore which of these oils render more of a staying power to have a person chnage their YES we are going on this trip to a NO we are NOT going on this trip???

Do As I Say, Compelling Oil, & Commanding Oil are they harsher than the two you've explain up in your previous post (otherwise I am going to spend money I don't have on all 5 oils just to get to this relative to keep his mind/decision to stay on a NO)....not looking to hurt the guy just reverse his stupid decision about this trip. I just hope anointing his shoes with a big fat NO in them will work & keep it that way for a littel while

just don't want to lose the potency of this trick after a few hours.

Thanks again ConjureMan and thank you too Lucylookingskyward

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:59 am

Do As I Say and Commanding are considered harsher than Compelling as compelling is more like 'make good on your promise' whereas the two previous are 'do what I say.'

kechara · Unread post by **kechara** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:43 am

jwmcclin wrote:Do As I Say and Commanding are considered harsher than Compelling as compelling is more like 'make good on your promise' whereas the two previous are 'do what I say.'

Gotcha jwmcclin....I now know what to order Bend Over, Do As I Say and Influence oil.

Thank you all for helping me make an informed decision.

Now I can't wait to get all these goodies.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:55 am

Hey! Bend over actually tops all of them in terms of cohersion. I must have mis-read you.

gbenson · Unread post by **gbenson** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:11 am

I want someone I don't know to tell a friend (they know each other) that they think they look fine in their appearance. The person is being quite nasty and its upsetting my friend, a kind word would go a long way in helping her fight an issue she has.

kechara · Unread post by **kechara** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:16 am

jwmcclin wrote:Hey! Bend over actually tops all of them in terms of cohersion. I must have mis-read you.

ohhh ok even better you just saved a few dollars bless ya...bend over is just enough thanks jwmcclin

desesperada · Unread post by **desesperada** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:22 am

Hi everybody, I am new to this forum however I know the website previously.
I need your help: I just got married three months ago, when finally I found the right relationship my husband insists that he doesn't want kids, he says he is too old to have kids (we both are 45 years old, I know it is a risk but want to give it a try)
How can I change his mind about this issue and not harm him? Please as a woman, understand my situation….Your answers would be of a great help.

Thanks to all.

MightyAphrodite · Unread post by **MightyAphrodite** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:05 pm

desesperada wrote:Hi everybody, I am new to this forum however I know the website previously.
I need your help: I just got married three months ago, when finally I found the right relationship my husband insists that he doesn't want kids, he says he is too old to have kids (we both are 45 years old, I know it is a risk but want to give it a try)
How can I change his mind about this issue and not harm him? Please as a woman, understand my situation….Your answers would be of a great help.

Thanks to all.

Hi desesperada. Welcome. You'll get more replies if you start a new thread with a descriptive title about wanting to change your hubby's mind about having kids. As far as the topic goes, I suggest you look into sweetening spells to open his heart to the idea.

desesperada · Unread post by **desesperada** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:02 am

Thanks MightyAphrodite for the advice, I have no idea how does this work but I'll give it a try..
Thanks again.

MightyAphrodite · Unread post by **MightyAphrodite** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:46 pm

desesperada wrote:Thanks MightyAphrodite for the advice, I have no idea how does this work but I'll give it a try..
Thanks again.

There's a small learning curve, but you'll get the hang of it. Here's how you make a new post:

1. Go to the appropriate forum category.
In this case, you want "Ask for Help with Your Situation." Here is the link: ask-for-help-with-your-situation-f24.html

2. Click on NEW TOPIC. It's in red, on the left side about the topic lists.

3. Name your post something very clear, such as "Persuade my husband to have a child" so people can tell at a glance what your question is about.

desesperada · Unread post by **desesperada** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:42 pm

Thank you MightyAphrodite.
I don't know what I would have done without you...I just made the new post, the information you gave me was real helpful

Unread post by **wraithklewn** » Mon May 17, 2010 9:20 pm

this is a question concerning vigil candles. when a candle divination indicates resistance from a target( sooty haze at top and clean burn for the rest of candle) is it never wise to redo another vigil of the same nature if it is just a vigil of the same type shortly after the first has burned? ive read that you can if its for the self but how about on a target? and yes i do realize that a different angle approach is usually advised

just curious on firing up another vigil only.

apologies if its here on the forum somewhere but i cant seem to find it for the time being.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Mon May 17, 2010 11:41 pm

If your target is showing resistance indicated through the candle, then you need to address the resistance. You can do a bend over candle, something with domination, or something else where you have power over them. Then repeat the previous candle that was done.

Unread post by **J Simulcik** » Tue May 18, 2010 4:35 am

I agree with stars...there are also cases where there is another product in the same family that has a more coercive side to it. Same nature, just a little more push.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Tue May 18, 2010 4:59 pm

Or you can break resistance with confusion products, especially if this work is for domination.

Some people keep repeating candles until they break through resistance, but that just seems like running into a wall over and over again. You want to find out which angle would be the best to take. Usually divination can show you that route.

As long as people have free-will there will be resistance to you trying to force your will on others so be prepared to deal with such resistance.

Unread post by **wraithklewn** » Tue May 18, 2010 6:27 pm

would a separation vigil suffice for the confusion? im not exactly sure what is for oils an herbs on that one. and of course im out of black candles and no imflammatory confusion oil. i got poppy seeds though.. and a vinegar jar i started today with poppy seeds in that as well.

if i had recieved my other order id have a vigil ordered, black candle dressed with vinegar and poppy seeds and work that new vinegar jar along with it.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Tue May 18, 2010 7:46 pm

Poppy seeds are used to confuse a target...(http://www.herb-magic.com/poppy-seed.html) also consider a road opener (http://www.luckymojo.com/roadopener.html). Read about Separation supplies here http://www.luckymojo.com/separation.html

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Wed May 19, 2010 12:28 am

Black mustard seeds, red pepper, and poppy seeds are all great for confusion. Poppy seeds are great for weakening a person as well in any situation as well. Separation could cause some confusion, but I would add the previous ingredient I mentioned.

Buttercup · Unread post by **Buttercup** » Wed May 19, 2010 3:57 am

I agree with the above posters,if there is resistance a reading will help determine the reasons and help you decide what you should do next. Since it's separation though,which is not easy work I believe that repeating the same spell could be helpful if you're out of the supplies needed to work this in a different way. People tend to resist when you're trying to influence them (especially if the change you want a big one) but if you persist there's a great chance that he'll get tired and won't be able to resist that much.

Unread post by **wraithklewn** » Fri May 21, 2010 1:21 am

thanks everyone. i may get the reading here soon. i may also see if LM can make me a "special" vigil hehe. so ill call them to see if thats possible beforehand. was thinking a break up vigil with inflammatory confusion oil added in. have them burn it and i do my thing at home.

and my order will be here on wed.. very excited woohoo!!

Sebastien · Unread post by **Sebastien** » Sat May 22, 2010 4:50 pm

When burning a bend over/domination candle to overcome resistance would we have to change our petition asking for power over the target or would we use the same petition?

lunatrix · Unread post by **lunatrix** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:29 am

I've been steadily performing a couple different things to get an ex to repay me.
I did receive a sign on the 3rd day to continue, but the court date is approaching fast.

My goal is to have him pay so we will not have to go to court. Found out he's at casino's today.
He has money to gamble, but doesn't feel he owes me money and has lied on court documents as well.

I am on a deadline(so to speak). Any suggestions to break down the wall?
Using honey jar, Just Judge, pay me candle, ancestors, and just added a dollie.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:49 am

Have you had a reading to determine what the nature of the resistance is, so that you have a better idea how to break through? If not, it is something to consider if you've been working but not getting the results you desire. Since there is a deadline involved, it would be best to get a divination done to take the guesswork out of any further action.

lunatrix · Unread post by **lunatrix** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:08 am

I have had several readings. Just saying he's resistant.
And they have been with AIRR readers.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:08 am

If you've been taking a sweet approach, which the honey jar indicates, then it may be time to start adding some push to your work to break through the resistance. On your dollie try to warm up its feet while telling him that he needs to run to pay you, tell him that its getting hot for him and he needs to get to you quick.

You can also start working with the Green Devil Candle spell: http://www.luckymojo.com/compelling.html

lunatrix · Unread post by **lunatrix** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:58 pm

Thank you,Conjure Man. Excellent idea.
The work has been a mixture of compelling and sweet...to warm his heart to see clear to pay me.
And being forceful in my petitions involving a saint, spirit helper, and my ancestors.
There is also a situation that just developed today that I am confident the powers that be were waiting for...
can't begin to tell you how perfect it is. Patience is a virtue that I need to develop.
The wait makes sense now.

Time to crank it up

This will be fun!

lunatrix · Unread post by **lunatrix** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:04 pm

Oh, and I have a name paper in my shoe, so I can walk on him all day long : )

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:18 pm

I agree with ConjureMan...sometimes more is needed especially with a resistant nature.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:23 am

i would work with St. martha, and a bend over candle. In addition, you can try to do some confusion work so he will be so confused that he can no longer be as resistant.

lunatrix · Unread post by **lunatrix** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:52 am

Thanks Stars.

Not familiar with confusion work, but I'll search the site.

Thank you!

lunatrix · Unread post by **lunatrix** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:53 am

Also, would you recommend a Cut and Clear as well?
This anger is getting to me.

My only concern is if I perform the Cut and Clear, it will interfere with
the work.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:44 pm

If you do a cut and clear it will not interfere with the work because you are trying to get your money back. It will deaden your feelings for this person, but that does not risk your pay me now work. As for the confusion, look for inflammatory confusion products.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:10 pm

I actually wouldn't use Inflammatory Confusion products in this case. Mind you this is my personal opinion, but generally I find that when you use Inflammatory Confusion you have your target blowing up at all sorts of people including yourself. He's confused and he's pissed. That's not a state you want him to be in when you ask for your money back; it may lead to him lashing out at you.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:46 pm

That is a possibility. Then you could work with regular confusion products, and/or poppy seeds to disrupt him. You can work with the inflammatory confusion if and when you go to court. Let him get all hostile, and angry in court to help your case.

lunatrix · Unread post by **lunatrix** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:50 pm

Thank you Stars and ConjureMan.

Heating everything up. Adding some confusion to the mix.
Green Devil/St. Matha/Skull Candle/ Need to choose.
I'm doing a lot and am feeling the effects today...hardcore spiritual bath time.

Last question (unless your answers lead to more questions...).
If I perform a Cut and Clear, will it interfere with future work on the target.
Especially if it is of a pseudo-reconcilatory (not a word but it should be) nature.

Believe me when I say, this is a Justified work. And I am finding that I am not very lady-hearted.

Thank you.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:16 am

It depends what you are doing the clear and cut for. Are you doing it for the target, and cut your emotional tie to him? Or are you doing it to release yourself from the situation? If its from the target, I mean you cutting and deadening your feelings will cause yourself not to want to be with him anymore, or not want to find yourself attracted or whatever to this person. Now if its from the situation you may lose and interest in doing spells for the situation. It will help you move on.

lunatrix · Unread post by **lunatrix** » Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:45 am

Thanks Stars.
The Cut and Clear would be to relieve my attachment to the target.
He's taken up way too much of my energy for someone who is not around.

Yes, I want my money. But I also want Justice after the fact.
Meaning, he was a dog(sounds awful I know) and I want him to know what it feels like
to be treated this way by someone you love.

I have never wanted revenge in my life. Wish I could be saintly and let go, but it isn't happening.
So, the question is will the cut and clear negatively effect any spell work I perform after the money situation is cleared up.
For example petitioning St. Martha to have him come back for awhile, so I can be his karma : )
This is not someone who has the emotional capacity to be a life time partner.

Does this make sense?

I have not decided if this is the best course of action. Money first. Attachment cut. Then see if it's even worth my time.

BarefootHoodoo · Unread post by **BarefootHoodoo** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:39 am

I have found the perfect house for our family to buy. Problem is, my husband does not believe in having debt, which I understand. I would love to be able to get him to see my side of the issue- that our family needs a bigger house, and it would be impossible in this day and age to be able to buy a house without a mortgage. Even if it's not this house we buy, I want him to want to purchase a bigger house for us. I thought Essence of Bend Over might be too harsh...I just want him to see my side of things. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thank you so much!

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:09 pm

You can try this trick
a-spell-to-help-influence-others-t4452s1800.html

Or you can do an influence another's mind for any good purpose sweet jar which you can find here

http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatspells.html#honeyjar

theusurper · Unread post by **theusurper** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:22 pm

After i made a lot of work for my BF i discovered that he is taking reiki classes and now is more resistance to work. he was taking about that he can see spirits and all that stuff.

he's very cold and distance from me and even he broke me and told me that he want just to be my friend because he need to find himself.

i don't understand what happened.

even when i work with my Saint Marhta i feel that something is wrong.

he's acting like a crazy man with the things he's talking.

my question are:

1) he can be resistance to any kind of work because he's taking that class?

2) what i can do to controlling and make him don't take anymore those classes?

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:41 pm

I suggest you use my "Overcoming Resistance in a Lover" conjure. It may help to overcome that block you are sensing.

GoldenFlow7 · Unread post by **GoldenFlow7** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:07 pm

Hi Theusurper,
Firstly your post helped to remind me of something important. I have Reiki and once you recieve your attunement you have a shield around you. I believe you can try ConjureMan Ali's suggetion or go for more loving approach because the energy is love and love conquers all. If you love him allow him to walk his path. The energy calls you. It took me one year after Reiki entered my path and beckond to me and I followed not realising it was the Energy working out my path to it. It took me across the ocean just to get my Attunement. I know when you love someone its hard but supporting him can be the greatest gift you can give him and yourself.

Blessings!

theusurper · Unread post by **theusurper** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:54 am

Thank you GoldenFlow7, yes i very hard, i will try to support him. To CM Ali, can i work with Saint Martha, too.