Long overdue introduction

mastersirius678 · Unread post by **mastersirius678** » Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:46 pm

Hi I am masterfu678, I don't think I had properly greeted you all yet. So here it is.

I had been known about Magick since 2007, and LuckyMojo was actually one of the sites that came up in a Google search when I was doing my research back in 2007. So I had known about this site for a really long time, but never took a serious look at it until a few weeks ago. After 10 years, I had finally decided to join you all, lol.

I still got a lot to learn about Magick, I taught myself from online research and books. But I never truly saw any blatant effects of past spell I had cast. I do not follow most general guidelines of casting spells or online spells. I used to, but then I decided that spells I made by myself is more effective, that includes pre-cast preparations (grounding, invocation etc). Right now I use spells I found online as a way to help me to come up with my own spells.

What I am working on right now is exploring sachet powders, which I ordered a LOT from LM (gotta be a while before I receive them). I am also planning that at some point dive into chinese Taoism, I am chinese and it is only natural for me to explore witchcraft from my own culture.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:00 pm

masterfu678,

Welcome to Lucky Mojo forum it is owned and operated by Lucky Mojo Company. We discuss the use of Lucky mojo products as it relates to hoodoo and the practice thereof. You will learn in your journey some of the things used in other forms of magic do not apply to hoodoo such as Karma, or drawing circles etx. Some people use them in their personal practice but it is not an element of hoodoo. Cat the owner discusses on her online forum and online book what hoodoo is and is not. I would read it and learn about the culture which derives from African Americans, southern with African roots, mixes with native american work and influenced by european work as well. Enjoy the journey!

Cats online book: http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodoo.html

A book on North Asian Magic published by LM: http://www.luckymojo.com/northasianmagic.html

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:51 pm

Hello, masterfu678.

Your order shipped on August 14th. Sorry for the long delay... one of our best product makers cannot work on sachets due to her asthma, so sachets always take longer to make.

mastersirius678 · Unread post by **mastersirius678** » Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:40 am

j82

ah I see, i don't know much about hoodoo/voodoo as my path of magick had always been a white-ish Wiccan, but I don't follow rules, as long as I don't cause unneed harm to anyone. (unless it is needed).

catherine

That is good news, I do hope the last few days of Mercury Retrograde don't cause any delays for the package. Hope the maker get well soon.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:29 am

masterfu678 --

Referring to what we do here as "hoodoo/voodoo" is not helpful to understanding our work. It's like referring to "blues/shoes" or "forest/florist." The two words -- hoodoo and voodoo -- come from different languages in different parts of the world and just happen to rhyme.

Hoodoo is African-American folk magic, also called rootwork or conjure; it is not a form of religion per se, although its practitioners are generally Christians and its pantheon includes Trinitarian concepts.

Voodoo is am African diasporic religion popular in Haiti, which has its source in the indigenous religion of African nation of Benin; its pantheon includes the veneration of ancestors as well as specific deities called the Lwa; it is not a form of magic per se, although its practitioners may employ magic.

Wicca, which you also mentioned, is a 20th century religion based on reinterpretations of ancient pre-Christian European religions; its pantheon includes one or more goddesses (often a triple-goddess) with or without male consorts; it is not a form of magic, although its practitioners may employ magic.

See also:

http://luckymojo.com/hoodoohistory.html

Unread post by **nagasiva** » Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:36 pm

Here's something i created to help with the distinctions!

mastersirius678 · Unread post by **mastersirius678** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:51 am

I see, it is very hard to distinguish, but can you at least call all this "Pagan"? I know Chinese Taoism is a philosophy of a sort, focusing on obtaining The Way, but a Taoist also knows magick and able to do work like cleansing evil spirits, negative energy and such. There is an asian guy on Youtube that calls himself a Taoist, his background is full of Taoism tools, much like a magick practioner in the West.

Maybe I should stop calling myself a Wiccan and just call myself a general magick practioner?

I got the order by the way, I like how it was ordered in four bags, also the fortune teller fish, the indian (?) text, and a catalogue. I'm good with supplies for a while lol.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:14 am

masterfu678 --

Nope. As noted above, most hoodoo practitioners are Christian, hence you cannot call them Pagan!

See this web page:

Is Hoodoo a Religion?
Who are the "Spirits" in Hoodoo?
But ... What About the Hoodoo Saints?
Can Catholics Practice Hoodoo?
Can Wiccans Practice Hoodoo?
Can Members of ATRs Practice Hoodoo?

http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodooandreligion.html

(You can call yourself Pagan -- that's on you!)

As far as Taoism goes, like Christianity, it has a religious / philosophical branch and a folk-practitioner branch which includes magic.

And, although this book is not about Chinese folk magic, it may be of interest to you, as it touches on Taoism and Buddhism as it teaches techniques of indigenous Mongolian folk religions and magical practices:

BOO-FLS-NORT
North Asian Magic, by David Borji Shi
$9.00

You can order right here in the Forum by clicking on the blue Add To Cart button.

mastersirius678 · Unread post by **mastersirius678** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:02 am

Hi Catherine:

Hmm, I will check that book out at some point.

I just remembered another word, what about "Occultists"?

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:14 pm

"Occultist" means one who knows hidden or secret things. In a sense, we practitioners are all occultists, but as the word is more usually applied, it refers to the study of secretly transmitted or even intiatic magical systems of a ceremonial or fraternal sort. It is rarely applied to folk magicians, even though it might properly be.

mastersirius678 · Unread post by **mastersirius678** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:14 pm

I guess there is no one fits all word for this, can't call this witchcraft since the hoodoo practitioners who are Christian are not considered a Witch and it will insult them.

Well, I guess I'll keep it separated then. Maybe I'll just call myself a "folk magician".

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:00 pm

Sounds about right. In hoodoo, a person who only helps him or her self and family is a practitioner, and a professional is a reader and root doctor or rootworker.

Unread post by **nagasiva** » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:28 am

If you're looking for catch-all terms which may cross over, then "folk magic" might do.

Also, there's a reference source which keyword maps the batch, some of which doesn't work for some people (but that's the case for almost all of these terms):

"Hoodoo - Conjure - Witchcraft - Rootwork" by Rev. Harry Middleton Hyatt

DOES include the term witchcraft.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:54 am

Nagasiva is right -- the term witchcraft has historically been used to describe African American folk magic by its own practitioners, especially in the state of Virginia -- but this usage, which was recorded in the late 19th century and well into the mid 20th century and is still used in its technical sense by academics (and thus was included in the title of Rev. Harry Hyatt's 5-volume compilation of black folk magic) has fallen away since the claiming of the term Witchcraft by (mostly white, mostly Anglo-Celtic) adherents to various Neo-Pagan religious and magical groups, e.g. British Traditional Witchcraft.

mastersirius678 · Unread post by **mastersirius678** » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:55 pm

especially in the state of Virginia?

I guess I am currently living in a state with deep magickal roots.

I got a lot to learn about magick, I will humbly learn from you all, as well as reading this forum.

My most current urgent situation is that I am trying to find an apartment to live, however, I cannot sign any contracts without having the approval from my leadership. I have all those sachet powders now, and I read about dusting papers with the powders. All i need to do is submit a request on paper to my leadership and wait for them to approve it, what sachet powder would be the best for this?

I do know that once everything gets approved, I'll fill out an application for my apartment of choice, and dust it with Money Stay With Me to try to encourage a discount on my rent.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:31 pm

masterful678,

This post is about introductions, you can find many other post about working with powders and how to influence others. I dont see much information on what you need or how, so I can suggest in general I would use a honey jar to influence them, I dont know what you ordered in powders but a controlling, commanding, attraction, influence, do as I say etc would work. For the apartment you want the best thing to do is dust it with attraction to draw it to you, then dust your money and checks with money stay with me to keep the money with you.

mastersirius678 · Unread post by **mastersirius678** » Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:06 pm

j82

that's it!! a mixture of commanding, influence, and do as I say will do, i ordered all those.

well, im not gonna push this topic off rails anymore, i did my introductions already, so see you in other posts.

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