Water from Ocean River Spring Rain Church Questions and Answers

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:12 pm

Dear lbcamera ,

To make the Water of 7 Waters:

1) You collect 7 small bottles of the water from your sacred source and send 6 of the bottles my mail to the each of the other 6 women When they have all 7 (including their own) they blend them

2) You mix together the water from all 6 small bottles you receive, plus your own small bottle from your own sacred source -- and that gives you a large bottle of all 7 waters.

markwillson · Unread post by **markwillson** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:42 pm

jwmcclin wrote:To prevent nightmares, you can place a glass of water at your bedside before going to sleep and dispose of it in the morning (in the toilet)

Ya, that's right. I have also heard about that.

Unread post by **Mary Bee** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:44 am

I put a glass of water by my bed and anoint my forehead with Psychic Vision oil when I want to make sure I have true dreams.

Mary Bee

Mister Lee · Unread post by **Mister Lee** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:43 pm

Does it hurt a pet (cat, in this case) if it drinks from the glass?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:31 am

Well its just water. So I would think not.

Unread post by **Doctor Hob** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:15 am

This is good to know. As many good (horror) stories as I write from my dreams, several nights in a row of that is like taking a beating. Maybe this can help me change the channel when I need a break from "inspiration".

Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:58 am

Placing an opened bottle of Psychic Vision Oil or Spirit Guide Oil on the nightstand or pouring it out on a saucer before going to sleep is an alternative to anointing oneself. Same goes for protective purposes with Fiery Wall of Protection oil. Burning a pinch of Benzoin is also a way to enhance dreaming and keep the bedroom clear of nasty stuff at the same time.

http://www.luckymojo.com/oil-psychic-vision.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/oil-spirit-guide.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/oil-fiery-wall ... ction.html
http://herb-magic.com/benzoin.html

Mister Lee · Unread post by **Mister Lee** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:14 pm

starsinthesky7 wrote:Well its just water. So I would think not.

An espiritismo practitioner from whom I learned the practice thinks the water actually traps bad spirits, and was not sure that it was safe for a pet to drink. He said that when pets unexpectedly die, they sometimes understand this as the pet "taking a hit" for the owner.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:45 pm

Well it depends what you are using the water for. I assumed they were just using the water to dream true, and not for nightmares and other bad things that can inflitrate your sleep. But I definitely agree if you are using the water to trap spirits and keep them from getting int your dreams then it would be bad for the kitty. But if you are using it to simply dream true then I dont see the harm.

Mister Lee · Unread post by **Mister Lee** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:49 pm

I don't really see any difference. Doesn't the glass of water aid true dreaming because it traps and keeps away bad spirits?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:56 am

Regardless, if a person feels that their pet is going to be negatively affected by the water I would do a cleansing on them asking that the negativity be removed from them. An egg cleansing may an easy way to do this.

The use of the water can be both ways...it can prevent nightmares, and it can help a person dream true. When I think of dreaming true I think of you having the psychic clarity come through in your dreams. i think of it as wiping the cobwebs away from your ability to see true. That doesn't necessarily mean there are evil spirits standing in your way of dreaming true. I see the water as a way as helping a person develop their psychic vision or intuition.

Like I said, if a person thinks their pet is endanger due to drinking the water regardless of the purpose...I would do a cleansing.

Unread post by **BLindstrom** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:25 am

Does it hurt a pet (cat, in this case) if it drinks from the glass?

If you have cats/dogs or children at home, you should think about what remedies and materials you use and have around in your home. Water is just water. But place it out of reach anyway, especially if you have added camphor or any oils to it. Placing an egg by your bedside will also be helpful removing bad dreams, as an alternative

Unread post by **queen2be** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:40 am

Since I started doing cleansing and spiritual work on myself and the house I have been good about keeping two glasses by the bed, one covered for me, one uncovered to absorb. Last night I was just tired and a bit hoarse so I brought my hard plastic cup with the lid and a plastic straw sticking out and set it by the bed. During the night I did have more fitful sleep than usual, but nothing terribly wrong. This morning I lifted my cup to drink and the water looked clear and still. When I sipped it however, my mouth felt funny inside and I immediately ran to the sink and spit it out. I had a living spider in my mouth, her fat egg sac straining with babies! I have never seen spiders in this room in five years of living here. It had been in the darker colored straw apparently. I'm sure it could be coincidence that the one night I don't leave a glass out this happens, but...

yesterday I felt I needed a little extra boost as I dealt with impending lay offs and new opportunities so I carried my dressed John the Conqueror with me all day. I tucked it back in its place last, giving thanks and feeling like I'd had protection and power from it. Whenever I work with John the Conqueror I always find that any negativity that comes my way after is from an unusual source, like the universe is bringing out big guns to fight the strength of the root.

I did a cleansing rue and hyssop bath this morning, dried between the burning candles. First, I rinsed my mouth with whiskey, rebuking any evil trying to attack. I set a vigil candle of St Michael. I don't have my FWP yet, so I used blessed olive oil in place, calling for protection. Has anyone heard of this kind of thing before? As I said, it's significant for me that I've never encountered large spiders like this in the house until I find one in my mouth!

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:01 am

Hmm...I would love to hear what others have to say about this. BUT I can say that it isnt unusual for humans to swallow spiders in our sleep. We supposedly swallow so many kinds of bugs in our sleep a year.

but perhaps this is a warning about something. I understand that you are cleansing but as much as you cleanse you need to make sure that you are protecting yourself as well.

I would get a reading about this as its best to be safe than sorry.
www.readersandrootworkers.com

Unread post by **queen2be** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:21 am

Protection is an area where I have not been taking as much care and I really need it.

If it were any other time, I think I might chalk it up to coincidence, but it comes hard and fast on the heels of what feels like a number of personal breakthroughs that have been hard-fought, all involving the voice, literally, for speaking with authority, persuasion, and singing (new opportunities have suddenly opened up). So the appearance within days of a painful throat and then nearly swallowing a pregnant spider was worrisome as my dreams have also been about feeling trussed around the neck. As a newbie to the practice (after years of exposure) of hoodoo, I"m sure I have the "zeal of the convert" when it comes to signs and wonders, but there are big things at stake and I don't want to miss any actual signs!

GinnyMule

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:58 am

Sounds frightening. You should do a 13-herb bath to get rid of anything negative that is in your space, as well as using Chinese Wash to cleanse your house. The Uncrossing Kit contains both, as well as Uncrossing products.

You might also work with Archangel Gabriel since you are focusing on communication, finding your voice, and singing.

Unread post by **queen2be** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:10 am

Thank you Mama Micki--it WAS frightening! The spider lay there in the sink and then suddenly opened its legs and I could see that translucent sac on its back about to burst and I thought I'd fall out...

I will definitely see if the angel will work with me too. How can I thank the angel? Make donations to charities in his name maybe?

I will ask him to protect my voice.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:25 am

Since Gabriel is an angel who helps parents and children, a donation to a children's charity would be appropriate.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:42 am

I understand that uncrossing is a main focus after this spider. But there to me...protection is what you are truly lacking.

Its like cleansing yourself after youve had mud thrown at you, to only get mud thrown at you again. It would be better if you cleanse and then protect yourself from whatever you believe is at stake here.

I dont know what your living situation is, but you can work with archangel michael to protect you. All you need to do is get a tea light his picture and some whatever. You can wear fiery of wall oil or bathe in the bath crystals

You need to make it work despite your living situation if you want to defend yourself.

Unread post by **Doctor Hob** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:34 am

There are certainly coincidences, but it is never a bad thing to be mindful of the signs that come our way. I guess the trick is to learn not to become so enthralled by the omens that we miss the immediate. This is a spooky occurence. Take care.

GoddessMojo · Unread post by **GoddessMojo** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:45 pm

starsinthesky is right. Someone told me once, when you cleanse yourself, and wash away the negativity and evil affecting you, you also leave a void where that stuff was. Which is why it's important to follow up cleansing with protection work, fill in that void with something good instead of leaving it open for something else.
A few years ago, after I made a serious commitment to learning conjure, and just after a personal ceremony to seal that commitment, my home became filled with spiders. FILLED. For three days. With spiders I had never seen before. It terrified me. Some here suggested it was a helpful sign, nature responding to my reaching out to it. I find it significant your spider survived the ordeal.

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:37 pm

Thank you for the egg suggestion, Miss Benedikte. I had a hard time keeping our cats from drinking from the glass of water I kept next to the bed to rid myself of the night terrors I was having. The egg would work great as an alternative for people who have small children or pets around. I will need to remember this!

Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:16 pm

Poppy flowers will enable you to dream true and lucky. I've been advising clients to tuck a little bag of them into their pillowcase.

Buy Poppy Flowers
http://herb-magic.com/poppy-flowers.html

Hope this helps,

Miss Michaele

Unread post by **queen2be** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:43 pm

Thank you everyone. I lit a St Michael vigil candle this morning and asked for his protection after I did the rue/hyssop bath. I am waiting on an order so I don't have any FWP oil at home yet. I prayed over olive oil I had on hand and dressed the candle, anointed myself and my children.

My living situation isn't physically dangerous but it is emotionally toxic. I have made breaks to some extent by establishing separate living space within the home and trying to keep peace as much as possible as I make plans and gather resources. (Miss Cat's suggestion of the Psalm 23 bible savings was a fantastic beginning point).

Thank you for the thoughts about the void left by cleansing as I have certainly felt that. Protection seems to be the key I'm missing. I checked Miss Cat's post on spiders this afternoon and it seems spider eggs in hoodoo are a bad sign...the spider ran down the drain but it was alive.

Any recommendations on herbs I might use for protection until the oils arrive?

Unread post by **BLindstrom** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:56 am

Hi Joseph!

The egg would work great as an alternative for people who have small children or pets around. I will need to remember this!

Before going to bed, pray over the egg and ask it to keep away bad dreams.

Sweet dreams

/Benedikte

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:16 am

Look into this list as it has many herbs that are recommended for protection.
www.luckymojo.com/hoodooataglance.html

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:47 am

Funny how folks here who practice magic don't all know the signs of spider dumplings.

Please go here;

http://www.luckymojo.com/bluesspidersnestmjb.html

Please read the lyrics!

More information here:

http://www.luckymojo.com/spider.html

Eating spiders is ... let's say ... a bad sign.

Unread post by **queen2be** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:46 am

Miss Cat's understatement is both funny and terrifying!

So I know eating spiders is bad, but exactly what to make of that mama spider not getting past my mouth?

I've kept a St Michael vigil burning since that morning, I did my cleansing and I'm careful to put out a glass of water and Bible by my bed. I have rosemary, devil's shoestring, bay leaves. And I put Van Van Oil with them in a spritz bottle, prayed over it, burned a candle by it until it was completely burnt out. I put the little bits of candle in the bottle and used it to spray my living space and my car.

If spider eggs are a sign of someone or something seeking to harm you, I'm now wondering about who that might be though...

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:28 am

I would think that you did not entirely consume the baby eggs, and you caught it before you did...serves as a warning. And perhaps you need to pay closer attention to things. There is a reason why you are cleansing yourself, and the negative energy.

But I would still get a reading to see what exactly does this mean for you.

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:21 pm

Listen to this episode of the Lucky Mojo Hoodoo Rootwork Hour:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/luckymojoh ... path-curse

This is one of the many reasons why The Show is so important. We all can learn a lot just by listening.

Miss Cat gave me the suggestion with the water of Seven Waters for the Gulf Coast oil spill in this thread, too.

Take care

luckynumbersix · Unread post by **luckynumbersix** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:52 am

Hi. I was wondering how one could use holy water to cleanse and/or protect like a Hyssop bath while waiting for actual Hyssop. Thanks a lot!

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:04 pm

Hello, luckynumbersix ,

There's an old Catholic saying that one drop of Holy Water in a tub of water turns all of the water into Holy Water.

So, fill your tub up with water and drop some holy water in it.

Then, do the same as you would for a spiritual bath.

Take care

LunarPriestess · Unread post by **LunarPriestess** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:41 pm

Hello All!

I am currently snowed in and would hate to see all of this go to waste. Any uses for melted snow? Thanks!

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:39 am

Snow, like any natural water can be used for bathing or washing and for blending into the Water of Seven Waters.

HicksKicks · Unread post by **HicksKicks** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:45 pm

so it can use for bathing purposes. thanks for the info, Miss cat.

snouvavou · Unread post by **snouvavou** » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:48 pm

This was the only forum even close but I was wondering:
I collected some water during a very intense Category 5 Hurricane many years ago and have since kept it near my ancestor shrine.I was wondering if it would be effectively used as part of a spiritual cleansing to a dwelling or a person? Or do you think the energy would be too disruptive? (It was a humdinger of a hurricane!!!)
Any thoughts?

Unread post by **Ms Melanie** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:04 am

Hi snouvavou,

I do not recommend you use that water for a cleansing. Traditionally this type of water is used for war.

Hope this helps!

snouvavou · Unread post by **snouvavou** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:17 am

Used in war???? Holy cow...well,that makes sense.I had as an offering to the Orisha Oya...but now I'm wondering if it should be stored in my bedroom!

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:08 am

Hello, snouvavou,

I wouldn't store it there. I keep mine in my refrigerator.

Also, we don't discuss Santeria, Palo, or other religions on this forum. This forum is about folk-magic, not religion.

Take care!!

snouvavou · Unread post by **snouvavou** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:58 pm

Miss Aida-

Noted, no offense intended.

And I will move that water ASAP! Thanks for the heads up!

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:39 pm

It is worth noting that due to the Covid-19 pandemic, open fonts of holy water are no longer available to the public in many catholic churches.

You can always ask the priest for a bottle of holy water; it is perfectly normal to do so.

Unread post by **DrCalamusSweetflag** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:15 pm

I didn't see a "Holy Water" section so I will ask my question here:

So I went to a local catholic church on a Tuesday morning and got a gallon of holy water. On the main sanctuary floor they have a font that looks like a small built in hot tub where baptisms are done. I was instructed by a "church lady" floating around in the church to fill up my bottle in that tub. Then later on I found out that the water in that tub is used baptismal holy water. Water that has been poured over one’s head and allowed to deposit into the tub. The baptisms are done with fresh holy water and not the water that’s in the tub. What’s in the tub could have bacteria, virus, fungus, hair/body products, etc. in the mix.

Some regular folks say to boil the holy water to cleanse it. I thought of putting water based oregano extract in my jug to at least counter act the possible bacteria, virus and/or fungus. I wouldn’t want to use this to anoint someone or to add to a spiritual bath. For splashing a house or room it would be ok.

My question: Is there a way to clean the holy water without affecting the blessing placed upon the water?

Morbius · Unread post by **Morbius** » Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:14 am

DrCalamusSweetflag,

I would suggest kosher salt as being similarly holy. If water is salty enough it should kill off anything in there, while retaining the blessing.

Does anyone know if that would be okay?

Black witch's salt might be fun.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:52 am

Hi, Morbius,

You don't have to make Holy Water so salty that it will kill off anything, but the small amount of salt in many recipes for holy water does add a preservative function. The prayer is important as well.

As for making a sort of anti-holy water with Black Witch's Salt -- that is a cool idea. We also make something for similarly negative outcomes, which is called War Water. Read about it here:

War Water at "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice" by cat yronwode:
https://luckymojo.com/warwater.html

-- and see what users have to say about it here:

War Water Questions and Answers at the Lucky Mojo Forum:
https://forum.luckymojo.com/war-water-q ... =war%20water

Good luck!

Backfromthegrave · Unread post by **Backfromthegrave** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:19 am

Not sure where to post this question. I went to get baptized and the man doing the baptismal seemed angry and right before he anointed me he said he was turning my face away from god and then he put oil on one half of my body. What went wrong here?

Unread post by **JayDee** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:43 am

Backfromthegrave ,

This seems to be an issue with the person baptizing you and cursing you. I would cleanse with Uncrossing wash, follow it with Uncrossing oil and get a new baptism from someone you know and build a relationship with such as a pastor or deacon in your community.

Uncrossing: https://www.luckymojo.com/uncrossing.html

JayDee

Mr Christopher · Unread post by **Mr Christopher** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:57 am

Hi Backfromthegrave,

The Baptism most likely worked, if you feel more comfortable, you can find mass Baptism held on significate religious holidays like Easter and St John's day. If you live near a member of the Associate Independent Readers and Rootworkers, many are ministers and can perform Baptism as well. https://readersandrootworkers.org/wiki/ ... ootworkers.

Best of luck,
Mr. Christopher

BalkanDiviner · Unread post by **BalkanDiviner** » Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:58 am

Backfromthegrave

Baptism is an important religious and spiritual process that should be handled by a professional. I don't know your religious beliefs or whether you belong to a particular branch of Christianity, but finding a gifted priest is crucial to ensure a harmonious step. It can be by recommendation or searching up online.

If you want spiritual help, try to petition Archangel Gabriel in order to discover a gifted person that can do this for your case. Also, a road opening spell could help to make sure you avoid any more issues in this regard.

Take care!

Unread post by **JayDee** » Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:41 pm

Backfromthegrave,

You can find gifted and able members, who also have churches, from the AIRR website, click on the church affiliations and contact them for further details on how to be baptized, these are also spiritual workers. The second panel on the left side list the churches.

AIRR: https://readersandrootworkers.org/wiki/ ... ootworkers

JayDee

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri May 19, 2023 7:32 pm

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The Hoodoo Heritage Festival page at AIRR is here:

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Find details about the festival and tickets for sale (with included goody boxes and pdfs) here:

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See the promotional video here:

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Morbius · Unread post by **Morbius** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:39 am

Are there videos available for this one? How do I get it?

Unread post by **JayDee** » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:09 pm

Morbius,

Yes click on the link to purchase the lesson and handouts.

Papa Gee created a new promo video for the 2023 Virtual Hoodoo Heritage Festival workshop on Mystic Healing and Cursing with Water! Ms Robin created the initial footage for the video, Papa Gee edited it for the web, Papa Gee created the graphic announcement; and Catherine Yronwode, Reverend James, Reverend Art and Nagasiva Yronwode fashioned the website text and supplied social media linking. Check out our new promo video on the festival's Mystic Healing and Cursing with Water Workshop Promo by Ms Robin!

The Hoodoo Heritage Festival page at AIRR is here:

https://www.readersandrootworkers.org/w ... rs_in_AIRR

Find details about the festival and tickets for sale (with included goody boxes and pdfs) here:

http://hoodooheritagefestival.com
See the promotional video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0943XdAHYw

Morbius · Unread post by **Morbius** » Tue Aug 08, 2023 5:09 am

But I missed the conference.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Tue Aug 08, 2023 5:40 am

Morbius,

Access to the online video library: forum269.html

JayDee

Morbius · Unread post by **Morbius** » Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:45 am

I do not see Cursing with Water in the listings. Maybe it has another name?

Unread post by **JayDee** » Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:25 am

Morbius ,

No, sorry, that class was this year, it is not ready yet to be placed on the class list. Those should be coming within the next few weeks and be posted here for people to purchase.

Without knowing your exact purpose, I can suggest Cursing bath crystals, dissolve them and use the water to sprinkle on an enemies door, place in their laundry, add to a jar with a doll-baby or a cursing jar.

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Morbius · Unread post by **Morbius** » Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:44 am

OK I will try.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Tue Aug 06, 2024 9:10 am

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Asturias · Unread post by **Asturias** » Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:54 am

Hello, Dear LM Forum Team,

Here's an idea. My beau seems to enjoy vinegar for cleansing, for spiritual baths and inhaling.

We're currently drifted, so here's a thought. I'll make a wax dollie on him, keep it in a jar containing:

1. Holy water (mostly)
2. Dab of vinegar
3. Holy salt

I'll include a petition somewhere in there to *both* cleanse him and keep away rivals. Does that make sense?

I'll seal that jar and change the water, possibly on a weekly basis. Now that gives me a bit of a pause, since sour jars, strictly speaking, aren't supposed to be opened.

I am yet to read on this, he has a delicate mind to be worked on. But then again, his spirit does seem to respond better to less ingredients, simpler gestures.

Please let me know what you think.
Thank you for this safe space

P.S.: for some reason, I hear Spirit saying to put sugar in there as well, and see how it goes.

But then I'd have to change the petition around, I suppose - as well as the general premise. With the added risk of fermentation, of course.

*His spirits are very, very tricky.* I've got to keep a firm hand and attitude, around this man. Praise the Lord.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Sep 09, 2024 3:04 pm

Hello, Asturturias --

I would avoid the use of a jar of still water altogether. Make the dollie and bathe it regularly (1 to 3 times a week) in a fresh holy water mixture of your choice, with or without vinegar and/or sugar. Wrap the dollie up, swaddling cloth style, and keep it hidden when not working on it.

Good luck.