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Unread post by ScorpioKate » Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:00 pm

Hi inquiringminds128!

As far as planetary hours, they are different every day. The first hour of the "day" is attributed to the ruler of the day. Also, the time between sunrise and sunset is the "day" and sunset to sunrise is "night". Night and day are divided equally into 12 parts but since right now, day is longer than night, the day hours will be longer than the night hours. So, since literally every hour is going to change every day, you could probably just look it up for the upcoming week as to which hours are Mars hours. I would imagine you'd want to do it on Tuesday.

Something else I was thinking at first is that since Mars is in retrograde, I was thinking it might not be so great to do anything with it right now. But then I thought about it for another second and that might actually be an even better idea than I ever would've thought lol. Since you're doing break up work, Mars in retrograde will be perfect. It'll be a mix of fire and frustration as opposed to fire and love lol. I'm not a moderator, but just my sense of caution is urging me to suggest that you stay away from both of these people for a while. Only because they both will be a lot more negatively fired up than usual so if one of them is someone you care for, it might cause you some negative Mars energy as well if they then turn on you once they've destroyed their current partner. I think it would be a lot more difficult to turn that ship back around to sweetness and kindness, once it was set full speed ahead in the direction of destruction and anger. Especially with a mercury retrograde.. Even though it's not at all the Intranquil Spirit, it sort of has a similar vibe to it in my opinion. But these are also all the reasons why it will be a very explosive (and clever) break up. I hope it goes well for you though, and that you can stay out of the line of fire and get the things that you're wanting :)

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Unread post by SagittariusLover128 » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:51 am

ScorpioKate,

Thank you so much for your suggestions and insights. I just had an sexual encounter with one of the people that’s going to be included in this break up spell. That took place on August 1. I’m going to look more into the planetary hour thing online using Google.

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Unread post by Sister Jean » Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:48 am

Good point, j82!
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Unread post by alexinmadison » Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:00 pm

While I feel a certain kinship with the idea of working spells during certain phases of the moon, waiting for a waxing or waning moon doesn’t always work for what I want to accomplish. What’s the conventional wisdom of this in hoodoo?

Thank you for all advice. Best!

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:06 pm

Dear alexinmadison --

Welcome to our forum.

I have placed your question in the "Spell Timing: Moon Phases, Moon Signs, Moon Void of Course" thread and i think that if you read it all the way from page one, you will have your answer and will have learned a lot!

If after that you still have questions, just ask.
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Unread post by mastersirius678 » Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:10 pm

Today is the last day of Mars Rx, woohoo!!!!!!

So is there any plans to make products that specifically deals with planets retrogrades. I know I said before that combining a planet powder/oil with protection and clarity might help, but that requires me to buy an additional two products. If one of them runs out or out of stock, then the combo won't be complete.

The major retrogrades that affects people the most are the Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, and Venus retrograde.. But Mercury and Mars just might be the worst, the double retrograde of mercury and mars certainly made my last few weeks miserable and a struggle. I can't think clearly, and my actions always seems to upset somebody. My boss was on my ass just about everything, she was the one I consulted this forum about with the Boss Fix powder, but in the end, I decided it might just be the double retrograde. She wasn't usually like this. Did I mention the numerous times that somehow everything just goes wrong?

So glad that this is all over and I won't have to worry about Mars Rx for another two years. Venus rx is coming up, but that won't usually affect me.

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Unread post by JayDee » Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:32 pm

masterful678,

Actually people tend to buy and use the product during a retrograde to help deal with the effects of it and to minimize them. Some will dress candles or burn a vigil candle during the time. LM tends to be well stocked and the product does go a long away. You can also purchase a seal with the planet on it and dress it with the oil and wear it during these times to assist.

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I agree with you Mercury effects me the most as well when it goes retrograde.
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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:49 pm

Here's a handy chart of the remaining retrogrades for the rest of the year 2018:

Mercury Retrograde November 17 2018 (Sagittarius) – December 7 2018 (Scorpio)
Venus Retrograde October 6 2018 (Scorpio) – November 16 2018 (Libra)
Mars Retrograde June 27 2018 (Aquarius) – August 27 2018 (Capricorn) <-- almost over!
Saturn Retrograde April 18 2018 (Capricorn) – September 6 2018 (Capricorn)
Uranus Retrograde August 7 2018 (Taurus) – January 7 2019 (Aries)
Neptune Retrograde June 19 2018 (Pisces) – November 25 2018 (Pisces)
Pluto Retrograde April 22 2018 (Capricorn) – October 1 2018 (Capricorn)
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Unread post by mastersirius678 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:08 pm

Hope this is the right thread for it.

So during one of my private thinking/meditation moments, I thought about how the beliefs of Astrology and synchronicity can come in play with magick and spells. What I was thinking is that magick can manifest itself (regardless of your path), and you can see it in front of eyes, however, Astrology beliefs that all events on Earth are dictated by some sort of planet influence and placement in signs and house, even magick itself, which is ruled by Neptune (spirituality etc), and Pluto (occult etc).

So I was asking myself: "When we do magick, are we influencing some sort of change to the grand scheme of Cosmic Agenda, something that was supposed to happen if no magick was done compared to what happened instead because we used magick to influence that specific event to happen. OR was it also destined by the Cosmic Agenda that we WILL in fact, use magick to make this specific event happen? Is magick outside the influence of the planets and heavenly energy of the Cosmos or was it not?"

We won't know, because once an event has happened, we can't turn time back and redo that event to see if there is a different outcome, unless time travel is invented in the future.

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:14 pm

Lucky for us, mastersirius678, we deal in folk magic, not in occult cosmology.

As an astrologer, i was always taught that "the stars impel, they do not compel," and i have leved well by that knwledge. The astrological influences are like tides. You can swim with the tide and make good time with ease, or you can swim against the tide and make poor time with struggle, and if you are not strong, you may sink beneath the waves.

I do not believe in a Cosmic Agenda, so i will leave that speculation to you!
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Unread post by mastersirius678 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:25 pm

Mrs Cat:

hmmm, that is another interesting take. Astrology and magick beliefs might not go together sometimes. Different people has different beliefs I guess. Cosmic Agenda belief is something I came up with myself, no one else probably believes in that.

My psychic/astrologer/witchy friend told me that she always cast a natal chart before doing a spell to see the outcome, but she also believes in karma, and when I asked her about Bend Over formulas, she told me that imposing my own will onto others can have serious karmic implications. As much as I believe in her accuracy for many of the readings she did for me, I do not believe her opinion on Bend Over is true, because you guys don't believe that, or anything related with karma. However, she did tell me that she used LM products and they are really great, so I'm guessing she probably don't order the coercive and domination stuff.

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:33 pm

mastersirius678 --

Well, as interesting as this is, it is off-topic. We are not here to debate theology, cosmology, philosophy, or eschatology. We are here to teach and to share historical and contemporary knowledge of African American folk magic.

The take on astrology found among most hoodoo practitioners is what is called "Modern Astrology." See my article on "Rootwork for Astrologers" in the book "The Black Folder" for some details about early black root doctors who were astrologers, including Edward Lowe of Chicago and Dr. E. P. Read of Philadelphia.

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Unread post by mastersirius678 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:39 pm

Right, onward and upward with the magical arts!!

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Unread post by loabeliever » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:55 pm

@Sister Jean- Thank you for your reply. My intent is to sweeten all roads to me, which is way i thought of sugar & road opening herbs. In terms of Urine never being used to empower-i have read, and heard (LM radio, & forum) about using Urine to control, dominate, and empower. I could be wrong, but thank you again for your response.

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Unread post by JayDee » Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:04 pm

loabeiever,

Urine is often used to dominate a person or control them but not to control your love life. Examples of urine use in hoodoo:

1 A man may use his first pee of the day in work to get a women like a women uses period blood.

2 A women will feed a mans gambling hand with urine.

3 Urine can be added to a jar to dominate the boss.

Getting back to New Love:

1 To open the roads you can dress a candle with road opener and love oil and your can you can bath in those oils, a few drops added to bath water.

2 You can take two figure candles dress one with Attraction Oil and dress the other with period blood, oils and catnip.

Hiding items for someone to step over:

1 Normally with placing items to draw someone you put in the front under the porch

2 To keep someone close after you have them, bury items in the back yard.
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Unread post by loabeliever » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:36 pm

@jaydee thank you so much for your reply. I will give your suggestions a try. Appreciate the examples about urine it was my mistake. Thank you again ! :)

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Unread post by CuriousIndigo » Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:11 pm

Hi,
Talking about time of day to do candle work, some say certain candles when the sun rise, other kinds when the sun set. Does that mean the very first time a candle lit? Because if Vigil candle is supposed to lit 24/7 till it complete, wouldn’t it involved timing during both sunrise and sunset? Please explain.

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Unread post by JayDee » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:38 pm

CuriousIndigo ,

People are talking about when you should start a work such as a 4 inch candle or a figure candle it would start at sunrise to draw things in like money, luck and love. At sunset to send things away like crossed conditions, or to hotfoot, curse etc. A vigil candle would be lit according to the time explained and let burn through. The starting of the burn carries the energy of the work when started.
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Unread post by Cupcakes » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:01 am

Help Please! Mercury Retrograde is coming and every time it does no matter what sign it's in I am severely affected. Like completely devastated (homelessness, car loss, large financial losses) and I have no idea why.

So it's coming again and I will not have the anything to recover from this one at all. I never recovered from the last one and my current car still has engine issues. What can I do to at least protect my car so I am not completely and totally homeless by the end of this one?
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Unread post by Sister Jean » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:18 am

Hello Cupcakes,

Welcome to the Lucky Mojo forum! We're happy to have you here :)

I'm very sorry to hear that you've had such rotten luck with Mercury retrogrades in the past. Have you ever talked to an astrologer about this? There could be something in your birth chart that is being particularly affected. Might be worth looking into with someone from AIRR (http://www.readersandrootworkers.org).

In the meantime, there is no reason why you can't turn things around for this upcoming Mercury retrograde. I'd suggest by first reading through this page:

http://www.luckymojo.com/mercuryretrogradeoil.html

Next, I would up your protection, making sure to dress objects like your front door, your car, your computer, and any other important possessions you own, with Fiery Wall of Protection oil:

http://www.luckymojo.com/fierywall.html

Third, make sure you scroll up and read through the rest of this thread for more ideas. Good luck!
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Unread post by aniviel » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:34 am

This is likely a silly question, but I do like to take into account both the moon phase and the day of the week.

Luck has it that I'm supposed to get my LM order on Thursday. Full moon is 5am on Friday here.
My order both includes items to make a honey jar and a mojo hand.
Friday I'm out until midnight...
Should I make my honey jar and/or mojo hand on Thursday night after midnight (so it is Friday), or Friday daytime, or night after midnight (Saturday)?
I guess this is a matter of personal preference in this case but I've got such great personal concerns and a great base for the work so I really want to make sure I feel it's all perfect :) I was really happy to see it's in time for the full moon

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Unread post by bythebeautifulsea » Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:39 am

I am not yet a student in miss cat's course (though I hope to be very soon!) but she has frequently emphasized that it is traditional to work as the sun is rising for matters of increase (like a honey jar for increasing sweetness)...so I would do it Friday morning. Best of luck with your work!
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Unread post by aniviel » Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:23 pm

Ah so Friday AM hours is best too then and wish the full moon. Perfect! Thank you

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Unread post by MoonGoddessKat » Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:57 pm

Hi guys I have a question. I was planning on doing a moving candle spell as instructed by my airr reader, for my lover and I, to move his friend who is interested in him to a new random lover of her own. My reader suggested doing it over the course of 7 days and the 7th day ending it on the full moon. I loved the idea of that because I like to work with the moon when I can. But my question comes into play as the next full moon I can do this 7-Day spell on would fall on January 21st and it is a lunar eclipse. I read not to so any work at all during an eclipse so should I avoid ending the spell on that night? I really dont want to have to wait until the NEXT full moon after that because I really want to get started on this work while I'm having really good signs and movements from other stuff I've done for this situation. Should I just forget the whole moon thing entirely and just go on with the 7 day spell?
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Unread post by Miss Athena » Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:51 pm

Hi MoonGoddessKat,

You could certainly do the spell in January and see what kind of signs you get. Then, if needed, you can perform it again in time for the next full moon.

Not all practitioners work by the cycles or the signs of the moon or worry about lunar eclipses, so you should be OK, if you strongly feel it is better for you to begin the work as needed and then repeat as necessary.

I hope this helps. Good luck.
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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:43 am

MoonGoddessKat --

The tradition about eclipses is not to START anything on the eclipse. Ending a hot foot spell (which is what this seems to be, for the other person) on an eclipse is dandy!

Also, go back to your AIRR worker and ask that person why they gave you that particular instruction because whoever it was knows his or her business and had some reason to tell you to work this way. I choose not to second-guess my colleagues.

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Unread post by Graveyardhag » Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:43 pm

I see on page 3 of this thread that Miss Cat has said that skullwork isn't advantageous during mercury retrograde.
I'm in the middle of a skull working at the moment and mercury goes retrograde next week, Would it be advised to put it away for the whole 3 weeks? It seems like a long time to halt the working, but of course I don't want to be doing sub-par work, or working to no effect.

I'm also curious if stop gossip spells would be a good idea during the retrograde? I'm thinking yes as it messes with communication?

And then further, do you also consider the shadow phases, or only the 3 weeks mercury is actually direct?
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Unread post by JayDee » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:19 pm

Graveyardhag ,

You can continue the work because you started it prior to the retrograde period started. This was discussed somewhere in the forum about using the moon phase and other spells. Yes stop gossip or silencing people, messing up communication even court cases would be good during a retrograde. Break up is also good because its likely for people to have miscommunications.
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Unread post by Graveyardhag » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:33 pm

Thanks JayDee, I don't have any court case work to be done lol but stop gossip, silencing someone and breaking up a friendship is all on the cards, just waiting on a big order that includes all my stop gossip stuff for that one. Hopefully it arrives before the retrograde ends I'd like to take advantage of those energies.

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Unread post by Miss Athena » Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:31 pm

Hi Graveyardhag,

It is generally advisable that you not begin any new spell while Mercury is in retrograde, as communication of any kind - including your petition - may be affected. You could do it if you have a pressing matter, but do make sure your communication is very clear.

You can continue work that was already started before the retrograde, as your petition has already been sent and received by Spirit.

I have used this as a general principle and it's never steered me wrong. Good luck.
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Unread post by JayDee » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:07 pm

Graveyardhag,

On page 3 of this thread Miss Aida discusses how she uses retrogrades and what work to avoid and why during each stage, as Does Miss Cat. Another poster commented on how burning a mercury candle along with the work while doing it in a retrograde minimizes the effects. Miss Cat also gave some great tips on consulting an astrologer to determine if the planets current condition make any adverse connections in your chart that would make the retrograde effect things. Great discussion. I also believe a few of the AIRR workers do astrology charts.
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Unread post by CapCityConjure » Wed May 15, 2019 2:39 am

Hi,
New to the forum. I wanted to get some outlooks on the rules of the moon phases and their effects on spells. I have a 7 day Prosperity spell and a similar length moving candle & lodestone love spell that I totally blanked out on and just realized the full moon is this Saturday. Obviously if I start it tonight the spells will be ending during the Waning Gibbous. What effects will it have on the spells? What would you do?
- Proceed for the next 7 days
- Cut the spell down so it ends Sunday Morning
- Cancel Altogether
- Other

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Unread post by Miss Athena » Wed May 15, 2019 12:22 pm

Hello CapCityConjure,

Welcome to the Lucky Mojo forum! We are glad to see you here.

I have moved your post to the correct thread on working with planetary influences. Please do not start random threads like you did, as it is against forum rules. Please search the board instead, as you will find nearly every topic already covered.

Read the posts in this thread and you will likely find your answers.

If you are working according to moon phases, you time the beginning of your spell with the moon. You don't have to worry about when it ends, so complete your candle for the full seven days.

You can read more about working with moon phases here:
http://www.luckymojo.com/moonphases.html

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:32 am

Another important point about time of day -- many spells call for an activity, such as a bath or a candle lighting, to be performed on several days at the same time. Selecting that time, and sticking to it for the specified number of days, is an important part of the work in those cases.

This book i wrote goes into rather a bit of detail about the different forms of timing for candle spells, and it may help you determine how you wish to work your timing:

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Unread post by Deliciousdonut » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:38 am

I didn’t know where to post this, but when is it the best time of Day to light my candles for my Crown of Success & crucible of courage candles?

And one more thing do I need to cleans myself in my hyssop bath before I can begin?

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Unread post by Miss Athena » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:03 am

Hello Deliciousdonut ,

I have moved your post to the correct thread on spell timing, so please read through the posts here. And please be mindful of where you post in the future, as you were posting in the wrong topic area.

For information on working a candle with Crown of Success, visit this link:
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I hope this helps. Good luck.
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Unread post by MichaelB » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:22 am

How precious should we get with astrological timing? It's fairly easy to work everything in basic hours, but should we add the layer of complexity of mixing day an hour. So, for example, say you want to have a letter well received by a Judge. That would be a good fit for the planetary hour of Jupiter on Wednesday or the planetary hour of Mercury on a Thursday. Or is that just overthinking?
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Unread post by Miss Nikki » Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:24 am

Greetings, MichealB.

I hope you are in good spirits! Moon phases, astrology, etc. are not part of conjure. Some rootworkers have expertise in other areas, & they use it in conjure. Miss Cat is a prime example. She knows a lot about astrology; while I know enough to help me with a matter. However, the best time to perform any magic is when you need the result. Good luck!
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Unread post by Miss Athena » Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:49 pm

Hello MichaelB,

Not every rootworker will work according to planetary aspects, including moon cycles or planetary hours. Work according to your comfort level or as your needs indicate. Don't overthink your work, as this is a real possibility when you layer on every aspect of astrology. If it confuses you, leave it out unless or until you become more proficient in that particular aspect.

I hope this helps. Good luck.
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Unread post by LuckyScorpio » Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:47 pm

I have read that Scorpio's power day is Tuesday. Instead of Thursday, would a scorpio also have more luck on Tuesday, if I were to use oils such as Jupiter, fast luck, and good luck? If a spell was cast on Tuesday, would more power be added to it?

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:04 am

LuckyScorpio --

Scorpio's power day is Tuesday because the ruler of Scorpio is Mars (supplemented by Pluto, which does not have its own day).

Mars rules Tuesday.
Mercury rules Wednesday
Jupiter rules Thursday.

You may blend lucky oils -- and considering the blend you have, i reccomend that you do a three day spell.

Start on Tuesday (your personal power day) with the Good Luck Oil.

Then on Wednesday (ruled by speedy Mercury) add the Fast Luck Oil to the blend.

Conclude the work on Thursday (good for money) by adding the Jupiter Oil to the blend.

Now you have a mix of oils you can use any time you want.
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Unread post by musclequeen378 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:05 am

It's a waning moon right now and the last day before the new moon tomorrow, but it's Friday and I want to do a love spell! How can I prepare my love materials for this opposing moon phase?

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:20 am

musclequeen378 --

First, i am not sure what you mean by "prepare my love materials." What do you need to do to them before you do your work?

Second, let's talk about Lunar calendar timing. This is something that many folks bring to their practice of hoodoo, but like all other forms of timing (week day timing, yearly seasonal timing, menstrual cycle timing, Sun timing, clock hand timing, and so forth), it is an ornament to our practice and not the essential core of the work.

But, having said you want to work by the "waxing" or "growing' Moon, i would like to tell you how to get that one thing right.

Please forgive me for being dogmatic, but i hold to thousands of years of Lunar calendar-making, and bring with me a clear understanding of the differences betwen a secular calendar and a spiritual calendar.

Please bear with me. If i do not convince you, feel free to disagree. It is not worth fighting over. Just hear me out:

What you are calling the New Moon -- which, in this case you say falls on Saturday, September 28, 2019 -- is not the beginning of a Lunar Month, not the NEW Moon, not what in folkloric, ancient, or rural calendars is called the "First New Moon Sighting" or "First Crescent," and not the beginning of the waxing Moon.

This is a conflict of terminology that confuses a lot of city people, or those who work by astronomical calendars.

According to their astronomical information, "September 28 will be the new Moon, when the Moon passes between the Earth and the Sun and will not be visible from the Earth.'

Note the term "NOT VISIBLE."

Folk magical and Lunar religious calendar-makers (for instance Jewish, Islamic, Sabbath-Keeping Christian, and Native American Indigenous calendar-makers) do not consider the "NOT VISIBLE" Moon phase to be the "NEW" Moon. Rather, it is called "the DARK of the Moon." The Moon is NOT THERE.

Furthermore, the precise timing of when the Moon is NOT VISIBLE is not a time that can be calculated by OBSERVING the Moon in the night sky. This DARKNESS lasts about 3 days, and during that time, the Moon is GONE. The center-point of the GONE period can only be calculated mathematically -- because the Moon is invisible.

I will bet you dollars to donuts that you got that September 28 date by looking it up in an astronomical calendar.

However, in folkloric and indigenous religions and magical practice -- that is, in any calendar system in which the Moon is OBSERVED -- we would wait until we saw the First Crescent Moon, the tiny sliver of actual "NEW" Moon, at sunset, just above the horizon. This is when the Moon is approximately 3% lighted. It is also called the "fingernail Moon" (because it looks like a fingernail trimming) or "Siva's Moon" (because the Hindu god Siva wears the First Crescent Moon in his hair as an token).

All around the world (except in the offices of urban "witches" and their publishers who use math rather than observation to find out where the Moon is at) the Sighting of the First Crescent -- not the calculation of the Invisible Dark Moon -- marks the beginning of each Lunar month. The sighting may be celebrated and special prayers, and songs may be sung.

Truth to tell, because it is the time when the Moon is approximately 3% lit at sunset, the Sighting of the First Crescent Waxing Moon can be mathematically calculated, but all calendars based on the First Crescent Moon sightings refer to the calculated time as the "Expected Sighting." That's how respectful they are of the actual Moon. The Moon alone sets the time. We only EXPECT to see the Waxing Crescent, based on historical record keeping that goes back more than 5,700 years of observation.

The secular calendar date of the "Expected" sighting will depend, of course, on where on the globe we stand. Because of time zones, the sighting proceeds around the world, from East to West, taking 24 hours to be seen by all of Earth's inhabitants.

According to one good online calculator, the TRUE New Moon or "First Sighted Crescent" of the Waxing Moon will be sighted after sunset in Jerusalem the night of September 29, 2019. This particular date happens to be sighted as the beginning of not only the waxing Jewish Lunar month of Tishrei, but it also happens to be Rosh Hashanah, the First Sighted Crescent of the Jewish New Year.

Rosh Hashanah is celebrated by most (but not all) Jews for two days. On the first full day (this would be September 30, 2019) many wish to hear the shofar (ram's horn) blown to signify that the New Year has begun. Many will hold a simple Tashlich ceremony -- throwing bread crumbs into a stream of naturally running water to signify casting off the sins and errors of the past year. On the second night many will eat a new-picked fruit, to symbolize a new start. Some people dip crisp apple slices into honey and eat them as a wish that the New Year will be sweet. Others, especially those who live in farther Northern climates, may prepare tzimmes for the evening meal, a sweet dish that can be made with carrots or sweet potatoes plus dried apples, prunes, or raisins, simmered in a brown sugar sauce.

Wouldn't THAT be a fine time to do a love spell -- after sighting the "fingernail Moon," trimming your fingernails, casting off the sins and errors of the past year as bread crumbs into running water, and preparing a sweet meal of fruit for a whole year of love work!

Of course, if you also want to work by the days of the week, according to the deities or angels of those days, the Friday after the First Sighted Crescent will be a day of Venus -- still well within the Waxing Moon phase, and the also first Venus Day of the New Lunar Year -- October 4, 2019.

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Unread post by musclequeen378 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:43 am

no disagreement here!

What I meant by love materials is "candles, oils, etc" but thank you for the input!

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Unread post by musclequeen378 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:47 am

Thanks for the information. Would you do a love spell today if you were me? Why or why not?

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:55 am

I would not do my love work on the Dark Moon, on the last days of the Lunar Year. Why not? Just seems wrong to me. I want the force of the growing Moon and the Lunar New Year and the eating of sweet honeyed Apples to speed my love work on its way.

Like i said -- October 4th.

Your mileage may vary.

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Unread post by nagasiva » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:31 pm

musclequeen378, if you're unsure about what your priorities are - whether you want to prioritize the day of the week over and above Lunar cycles, or the zodiacal Sign, or the configuration of the Planets, or guidance from some spiritual authority, or some other standard which may compare well with these, then you may wish to get a reading on the matter, either doing one yourself if you are so skilled, or obtaining one from a skilled professional. This can help you to determine the optimum effort at the optimum timing. Sometimes Luna is not a significant factor, sometimes she is.

Knowing the rhythms and timings of her influences, this is one among a number of possible contributing timings, including the ones being taught about in this thread. I include a batch of links to other Timing-Related threads in this forum for reference:

Astrology and the Zodiac {ASTROLOGY}
astrology-and-the-zodiac-as-used-in-hoodoo-t3022.html

Eclipses and Retrogrades {ASTROLOGY}
spell-timing-eclipses-and-retrogrades-t2025.html

Supplemental: https://www.luckymojo.com/zodiacal.html
Supplemental: https://www.luckymojo.com/planetary.html

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Planetary Influences / Days of the Week {CORRESPONDENCES/RHYTHMS}
spell-timing-planetary-influences-days- ... t1429.html

Moon Phases, Moon Signs, Moon Void of Course {LUNA/ASTRONOMY/ASTROLOGY - THIS THREAD}
spell-timing-moon-phases-moon-signs-moo ... -t442.html

Supplemental: https://www.luckymojo.com/moonphases.html

Time of Day or Night, Clock Time {SOL/CLOCK SYMBOLISM}
spell-timing-time-of-day-or-night-clock ... 11842.html

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Dates of Month / Numerically Interesting Dates {NUMEROLOGY}
Signs, Omens, and Movement Completion Q&A
signs-omens-movement-completion-of-spel ... t6436.html

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General reference:
https://www.luckymojo.com/spells/practi ... ml#timing1
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Unread post by musclequeen378 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:36 pm

Thanks guys for the advice, but

1. Since my OCD self wants to do the Break-up again and pretty soon (because I'm impatient), would it be ok to do the same break up spell tomorrow, Tuesday, during this waxing moon?🤔

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Unread post by musclequeen378 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:38 pm

2. And if you guys were to do a break up spell during a waxing moon, what specific days and times would you perform it?

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Unread post by musclequeen378 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:39 pm

3. I already know about Tuesday/Saturday for separation spells, but I also would like to know other times you'd perform it

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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:04 pm

musclequeen378,

I don't have OCD. I select my times of working either on impulse (by immediate need) or i plan them out -- and when i do that, i take far more than Week day (Planetary ruler) and Moon phase into account.

A war-like spell could be Tuesday -- 5 of Swords or 5 of Wands, any Tuesday during a waning Moon.

A spell of limitation or destruction of a relationship could be Saturday -- The Tower or the Devil -- a Saturday as the moon was darkest, in the dark except for the light of a black candle.

So ...

1) Tuesday during a waxing Moon does not appeal to me for break-up, unless i was insistent on doing it NOW, in which case the week day or moon phase would not matter. I might choose the waning Moon in Scorpio (the night house of Mars), on a Tuesday

2) Like i said, i wouldn't impose Moon phases on week days unless they were in agreement, but if i did, i would probably also try to work in the Moon signs then, as well. Saturday night, waning Moon in Capricorn, perhaps.

3) A break up spell during a waxing Moon does not float my boat. But, remember, i do not always work by the Moon!

Here are the relevant Lucky Mojo web pages for spiritual supplies according to a number of different systems of calculation of timing:

Planetary Spiritual Supplies and Days of the Week:
http://luckymojo.com/planetary.html

Zodiacal Spiritual Supplies and Zodiac Signs :
http://luckymojo.com/zodiacal.html


And here is a simple teaching tool to help you work by the phases of the Moon:

Moon Phases and Handy Moon Phase Calculator
http://luckymojo.com/moonphases.html
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Unread post by larue » Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:01 pm

Greetings everyone. Hi, I am new here and have a question about the timing of a hex. I've been practicing more health centered and "white magic" style paths for years but now I'm forced to do something heavier and darker and am unsure as to the exact timing. It has been my personal experience that with most of my lighter and more "positive" spell work that hourly timing, while important, didn't seem as crucial as with what I'm about to begin.

To give you all some background into my situation, I've been stalked for the past 5 years by a very destructive and malicious person. I live in a state that doesn't protect its victims much, and this man is very sinister and makes certain that he doesn't break the law, but yet he still gives me hell. He follows me online. I can't even be on social media. Even when I block him from sites and change my names and accounts, he still manages to follow me through my friends, family, interests, and favorite pages. He follows them too. He has some money and has hired people to watch me at time that he can't. He prevents me from having a romantic life. When he finds out about a new bf, he contacts them or gossips about me to them. He even lied and said that I had herpes to one, when I don't. He has called up my place of work and caused trouble there too. He uses guilt, threats, negging, gaslighting, and insults to hurt my feelings.

He is honestly damaging my health, mental state, financial life and freedom. I live like a recluse to avoid him. He has sent me pictures and videos of times I've been out and either chastised me and called me insulting names if I was all dolled up. He asked if I was trying to pick up men or was out on a date. Other times if I am just in sweats, flip flops and no makeup, he has send me footage of me when out and said that I look like a "fat, ugly hag" and that no one but him could possibly be attracted to me. My self-esteem is so damaged by him. When I confronted him to tell him about his behavior, he said that I am hypersentive and misread what he meant. I feel like I'll never be able to truly live until he is dead or banished completely. I want to clarify that he doesn't practice any spiritual or ritual work, in fact, he is a very vocal atheist, and so I feel like I am safe from spiritual attacks from him. My spirit is withering from his abuse though. Help.

Sorry to be so lengthy here, but I thought everyone needed to know all of this. Here's the main reason I'm writing though:

I know that this upcoming Saturday (October 26) will be ideal for my banishment spell and crossing.

My question is though, and please excuse my ignorance, I know it will be best performed on a Saturday night after midnight, but does that mean that I perform it tomorrow night, Friday night after midnight (which is technically Saturday by the clock) or do I wait until the actual Saturday night.

Thank you all in advance, and I am open to any other advice or help that you might could offer me. Thank you.

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Unread post by Miss Athena » Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:34 pm

Hello larue,

Welcome to the Lucky Mojo forum! We're glad to see you here.

I am sorry you are going through such a nightmare. You have the right idea to work on a Saturday, and night would be the right time. There is no rule to working after midnight, so choose a time Saturday night that works for you.

I have to ask that you not start new topics like you did. If you do a search of the forum first, you will find that we have nearly every topic already covered. I've moved your post to the correct topic on spell timing by day or night. You can read the previous posts of questions and answers to learn a lot more about this topic.

I hope this helps. Good luck.
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Unread post by GoldenRule » Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:02 pm

musclequeen378-

Two things-

1) OCD can actually be a useful condition to have if you are the type to plan out your correspondences to be just right; I'm that way myself.

The two answers above gave you SO MUCH information that you can plan most any type of spell and figure out the timing. Plan to your OCD heart's content. Also, they gave you many links and articles to read about this. This is valuable information for you to utilize.

2) You say you're impatient. If you don't get a handle on this, the only spell-work that may bring you successful results will be temporary at best. I say that because you said you wanted to do a breakup spell over again. If you put good focused work into your spell, it shouldn't have to be done over again. Give it some time to start to work.

God/Spirit needs to be on board with your intentions, or you'll not have real success, success that lasts.
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Unread post by MistyNYC2020 » Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:07 pm

I just started my own business.
I was wondering if anyone could suggest the best day to cast a wishing spell or money spell?
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Unread post by catherineyronwode » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:50 pm

Dear MistyNYC2020 --

Thursday is ruled by beneficent Jupiter, granter of wealth and good fortune.

Wednesday is ruled by Mercury, known for communication and business trading and negotiation.
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Unread post by jdsmooth85 » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:26 pm

Hi,

Just today a curious thought had crossed my mind and I decided to hop on the forum to see if I could inquire about it.

Do you think that if you had access to a person's full zodiac natal chart (printed out, of course) that it would be a strong link to use in a spell, along with maybe a photo of the target or something?

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Unread post by Terra Rising » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:09 am

jdsmooth85,

What a great idea. Often workers will use the zodiac sign for the target or their written out birthday. Lets say for love drawing work, you would use a vigil candle for your zodiac sign as well as theirs. But a printed natal chart would be an amazing connection to the target. If this is a commanding spell, I would write the command on the back. You could also sew it in a doll baby or use it under a skull candle when you baptize it for the target.

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Unread post by jdsmooth85 » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:32 am

Thanks Terra Rising for chiming in!

I think that having a target's personal concerns is stronger because it's more linked to their DNA, but yesterday for some reason I was flirting with the idea that if one didn't have access to any of their personal concerns if a printed natal chart + photo would be just as good.

I mean after all, a natal chart is pretty much having the target's cosmic origins in your hands, so why wouldn't it be a strong link? You know?

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Unread post by Terra Rising » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:43 am

jdsmooth85,

No, it's not the DNA that is the basis of the connection. Some of the strongest personal concerns have DNA in them but many do not. Bodily fluids do have DNA but it is the fact that it came from that person and has a piece of that person's spirit. If you work with ancestors and take the dirt from someone's grave, it doesn't have that persons DNA but it will have a piece of that person's spirit. You are right, it wouldn't be as strong as someones hair to get them to think of you or favorite heart locket or sexual fluid to love and lust after you.

I always work with what I can get until I can get closer and get stronger links.

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