Too Many Spells, Spell Burn-Out, Spell Overload

hesting0404 · Unread post by **hesting0404** » Sun May 16, 2010 4:55 pm

I admitted that I had doubt in myself and wanted to make it work. So, I tried everything and went extreme. I can remember times when I didn't want to sleep and just waited for hours of MARS and SATURN to come and performed the work, burning those candles and dumping like 10 or more vinegar jars in the river.

I did have the readings with spiritual workers from my areaand other from internet and I need to admit another bad thing...I only believe what I want to hear. I turned away from people (including my mother) who told me to forgive,forget, move on...and seeking other soothsayers who told the opposite.

I believed I read Conjureman and Devi replies from previous posts about D.U.M.E candle. I cannot find them...a member asking about space in D.U.M.E candle to list whole family of the target...like if you want to kill them using magic...it is not different from shooting them with the gun...can a person who seek revenge physical kill a whole family like that? I read the post and totally understand the point.

Also, I redo things again and again to vent out my negative feeling...It is not that sixth month ago, someone crossed me so I wanted revenge. It's been two years and a half since the problem started and I had been attacked first in every mean even magically...I guess since I was holding on sth for so long...I need more times to vent it out. So glad I think I'm done.

Now, what's about positive work, such as money drawing, jobs or healing. Well, I would think I will do them no more than three times each, is it still too much? I saw LM website candle service said setting 3 or 9 time continuously is normal. For protection, I would say a brief prayer everyday and light the candle every Tuesday and Saturday for Santisima Muerte. That's the normal practice, is it right?

Again, Thank you very much for your replies.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun May 16, 2010 6:50 pm

hesting0404, since you say that you have a tendency to repeat behaviours of ALL types, not just spell work ("Unfortunately, it is my nature to do thing again and again"), i would like to suggest that you may have a sub-clinical form of obsessive-compulsive disorder. This is a condition where one feels that something (and it could be anything, from parking the car to flicking off the light switch to smoothing down the throw rugs to brushing your teeth to setting the table -- and, yes, to performing spells) was not quite done "right" and needs to be checked or re-done.

Studies have shown that OCD is more common among intelligent people than among those of average or lower intelligence. OCD is caused by or related to low serotonin in the brain, serotonin being the hormone that makes us feel "satisfied." It is said that if these thoughts of wishing to check or re-do basic activities occupy more than one hour per day or interfere with your social life, you may have advanced from sub-clinical to clinical OCD.

I am not a psychiatrist; i am only relating what i have read in magazines and books about psychology. I offer this information only as food for thought. In other words -- this might not be about your obsession with the spellwork per se, but rather part and parcel of a more far-reaching tendency toward obsession on your part.

On the other hand, aside from the expense and the time spent on the work, i can think of no adverse effect from repeating a spell 300 times. As you say, you finally reached a saturation limit or satisfaction point, and you are finished with it. Very well, and that's all there is to it.

Good luck!

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun May 16, 2010 7:22 pm

I agree with Cat on the OCD. When I read this post, it was the first thing I thought of. But on the hoodoo part...why repeat the same spell over and over again, if you are not seeing movement?

hesting0404 · Unread post by **hesting0404** » Sun May 16, 2010 9:36 pm

Miss Cat and starinthesky7...I think I can see what's wrong with me now. Thanks to point this out.

kmew1315 · Unread post by **kmew1315** » Sun May 16, 2010 11:57 pm

Actually, starinthesky7, I think the original poster said that he/she doesn't know whether it's worked or not. "My enemy?...I don't know what happen now and I stopped worry."

Unread post by **cognitivedissonance** » Mon May 17, 2010 1:00 am

It could be that your target bought several hundred candles too... ;-D

suzyparker · Unread post by **suzyparker** » Mon May 24, 2010 3:52 pm

Hi Guys, well, things are going well with my new target. I lay tricks around his place (approx. once a week), I've given him the "lucky" hand which is actually filled with love herbs and he gave me some books to read, so I returned the favor and I dressed the books I gave him with some sachet powder.

I've also started a honey jar on him.

In the past, I've been very lazy about my work and lost interest if my target seemed to not be behaving the way I want. So, this time I don't want to get fed up and quit.

But, I have been reading the Boards and I see that too much work can be a bad thing. So, in your opinion.. what is a good mix? Honey jar with some other "work" once a week? (ie, laying tricks, skull candle, vigil candle, etc) or is that overkill. I don't want him getting nutty on me.. but I also want to keep up the good work.

Just looking for a healthy amount of work per week.

Thanks for any input..

As always, you guys are the BEST!!!

SuzyP

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Mon May 24, 2010 4:40 pm

Just do what you're doing and give it time to manifest. If you need more in 6-8 weeks, then add more. Although if you're not seeing any movement in 3 weeks, then get a reading to see what's up.

Unread post by **sdb77** » Mon May 24, 2010 5:35 pm

sometimes the only answer is the one we kinda don't want - to just try harder to not get fed up and have more patience, always more patience.
good luck

sara

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Mon May 24, 2010 6:43 pm

I don't necessarily believe this calls for "trying harder" at this point. You're getting some good movement, so keep up the work that you're doing.

Unread post by **sdb77** » Mon May 24, 2010 6:50 pm

i didn't mean to "try harder", i meant to try harder to not get fed up. not getting fed up sometimes requires having more patience, that's all.
sara

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Tue May 25, 2010 9:06 pm

Personally, I think you should consistently work on your things...BUT it is always good to give yourself a BREAK. Breaks are just necessary including taking a break from hoodoo all together. But thats another topic. I would say stick to what you are doing, but once you start feeling tired, lazy or losing interest....it is time for a break. Breaks give time for things to manifest,and for you to recharge yourself both mentally and physically. So I would recommend every 3-4 weeks giving yourself a break. You do not have to constantly be doing things to see MOVEMENT, and for things to manifest.

monsieurX · Unread post by **monsieurX** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:26 pm

Just a quick question, is it safe to have two different spellcasters work on the same spell i.e. getting a lover back?

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:52 pm

Certainly, but you want to let them know about one another so they don't work against one another accidently. Each can work on a specific targeted area of your case.

monsieurX · Unread post by **monsieurX** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:02 pm

gracias ;]

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:52 pm

It is okay however do not get that confused with thinking it is going to bring you faster results. I always feel like its better to tell them about each other, and they may work on the same situation but I feel like they each should be hitting it from a different angle.

ShadowyEmbrace · Unread post by **ShadowyEmbrace** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:18 pm

I know from other systems its usually best to cast a single spell on a target at a time. I've read and had some people tell me that Hoodoo is basically the same... But I'm wondering why? See with my situation I need reconcillation but at the same time and after my reading and from my own ex lovers mouth that after we broke up there was another guy breifly in the picture and even though she thinks about me the most she does still think about this other guy some. Plus at the same time I know she has guy friends that are potental threats. I know that Intranquility is a last resort but from what I understand it makes the person not be able to find anyone else, and since its long distance to begin with I'm wondering if I should/could cast both a reconcillation spell as well as the intranquility spell at the same time? See my gut keeps telling me that the Intranquility spell is the only way this is going to work... I really don't want to have to do that but I'm torn on it, I don't want her to be misrable but I don't want to lose her to someone else. So I'm thinking if I cast both spells maybe the reconcillation will not make the Intranquility quite so bad on her b/c we will be growing closer to begin with so it will cancel out the lonelness part of the Intranquility. Or is there a different spell or work I can do at the sametime to make sure she doesn't take on another lover while I'm working the reconcillation?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:03 pm

The IS does not stop a person from doing what they want to do regardless of what that is. Now may it make them miserable while they are doing it...yes. But it will not necessarily stop them from being with someone else, but every situation is different. The IS would NOT be the answer to stop them from going with someone else. Perhaps a binding spell...binding them to you.

The reconciliation spell will not stop the person from being miserable when they come back to you. The IS is just a more coercive FORM of reconciliation. Didn't you get a reading? I am sure that this is not what the rootworker recommended considering on your other post that all is not lost. There is NO reason to do the IS here. You just need to have patience, and not push her towards someone else by trying to rush it. In addition, you need to fix the long distance issue so that you wont be worrying about her being with others so much. I would recommend that you do a freezer jar, or work with some I can, you can't products for any potential rivals.

Do not do the IS. It is not going to be helpful to this situation. And it might very well just make her more aggravated towards you.

Maljen · Unread post by **Maljen** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:06 pm

Please do a forum search on IS...it is NOT to be taken lightly. At all. And from what the more experienced practitioners have said around here, it's not really for reconciliation anyway. It's THAT harsh. Perhaps Essence of Bend Over or even Commanding when worked with a doll baby and/or skull candle would be better.

Your reading said you'd have a long window to work this, and take advantage of that. Work other spells and angles first before jumping in with IS. No need to nuke something if a brick of c-4 will do the trick

ShadowyEmbrace · Unread post by **ShadowyEmbrace** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:10 pm

LoL@ Maljen I like the nuke to c-4 comparison. I'll check into the Essence, Bend and Commanding.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:12 pm

I agree...and you might want to enlist the help of a professional. And to answer the casting of more than one spell. It depends what it is. In this situation, one or two spells depending on what they are...are find to do. You do not want to be doing more than two or even one at a time when you are first starting out because it can be draining on your energy, and hinder your ability to focus. Not to mention you do not want to bombard your target with a ridiculous amount of spells at the same time or around the same time period.

ShadowyEmbrace · Unread post by **ShadowyEmbrace** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:35 pm

I get you star I have a set time limit I'm working in myself for her I'm giving it a year so if what I do doesn't work within the next three to four months I will be getting a professional. But I've always known my spiritual/magickal side is strong just haven't ever had the chance to practice much or when I did didn't have anything I really needed to but now it's time to release what is inside of me out regarding magick.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:34 pm

If you are letting yourself believe that you will only succeed with the IS then you are setting yourself up for failure. You'll continue to doubt everything you do because its not the IS. Get that out of your mind.

Reconciliation can be worked without resorting to such spirits. Learn to work the angles in varying degrees. Start with healing the hurts, opening the paths, rebuilding communication, drawing her closer to you, lighting the fires of passion and so on and so forth.

Maljen · Unread post by **Maljen** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 5:44 am

I agree with CM. Reconciliation takes time and several steps, as I'm discovering. Just as relationships are complex, multi-layered things, so is the work to repair them. It's far easier to do work to pass a test or get a job than it is to repair and rebuild a relationship. Trust in your work, and have patience (another thing, I'm having to learn from Hoodoo!

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JCPA72 · Unread post by **JCPA72** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:38 pm

Hello Everyone,

Just my adding my two cents, as people become more knowledgeable regarding their spiritual work and spell casting, I think you learn what works and doesn't work, is there a chance that you can over-use spells of course, it's only logical BUT it's been my expierence that if you really think out what you want to achieve with your work, you will see a natural framework to guide you.

Depending on the obstacles in the way of your goal, you should design your work in such a way that you clear obstacles as well as draw what you want toward you..

Also understanding all of this is a natural process and takes TIME, PATIENCE and FAITH in order to have successful results. I think people "overuse" spells because they don't have patience or lose faith because the signs aren't clear enough or fast enough in coming.. especially in love work..Have faith!

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:43 pm

I am so glad that you are reading the forum and commenting on these old threads. It helps to bring up topics like this for individuals that find the need to go on spell overload, and want to hit their target with like 50 candles at the same time because they think they will yield faster results. Or the need to do 50 candles even though they have not switched up their plan nor gotten a reading because the target is not reacting. I agree takes a lot of time,patience, and faith.

This is a must read. We need a must read section on this forum with articles, and important threads so people will understand what hoodoo is all about. But I guess that is all apart of learning, and researching hoodoo rather than wanting a quick fix.

Miss_Liz · Unread post by **Miss_Liz** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:17 pm

I'm confused. I get the whole obsessing so much your life suffers, but the bit where the spell work backfires is where I'm confused. I've read both that it can and can't backfire on this same forum. Can someone clarify this for me please?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:11 pm

Magical overload, and backfiring aren't the same thing.

Backfiring is when the spell has the opposite effect of what it was suppose to be. So for example if you do a job spell to get promoted, this spell wouldn't all of a sudden cause you to get fired. Backfiring is what some people fear, but it is not often seen, if ever.

Overusing spells and TOO much work on a target can happen like what happened in the example given, and it is fairly common. In the case described, the person did so much work on this person for 3 MONTHS that it caused them to be obsessed. I do not call that backfiring. This person definitely got the target to think about her right? So much he became obsessed just like she wanted.

Another example would be doing so much break up work on a couple that it causes so much violence between them that one kills the other. You got them to break up right? So, spell accomplished. I get keeping heat on the situation, but too much of something is not good.

Miss_Liz · Unread post by **Miss_Liz** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:17 pm

Ah, I get it now. I've been reading up on this for a while trying to figure out why my ex reacted the way he did when I spent 6 weeks fiery love spell, honey jar, binding dollies, everything at him trying to get him back only for him to hate me enough to start telling me to kill myself and hit me on several occasions. Not sure if that had too much to do with my spells, he told me he knew I was doing them (he "practices") so I dunno.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:26 pm

Well if he know that is a whole other ball game. He is angry that you did the love spells, and is completely resistant to them. So the more you did, and the more he found out about it through finding things, or actually finding out through a reading or some sort of divination THAT made him angry. The love work you didn't make him angry. I think you should in fact get a reading to see how he found out about your stuff. In addition, I do not condone someone hitting anyone. Finding out about spell work does not give anyone the right to hit you. But that is your choice I would get a reading to find out what is really going on.

Miss_Liz · Unread post by **Miss_Liz** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:04 pm

You're probably right with the finding out, he and his painted Jezebel are [members of a religion to which the poster does not personally belong --EDITOR] so they figured it out, tho the way I was acting at the time made it pretty easy to assume. What's weird is he got angrier and violent AFTER I stopped casting on him, after I had moved on with my love life and didn't want anything to do with him anymore, like for a few months.

There isn't a whole lot I can do from a legal mundane standpoint (I tried, if I went to court for one thing on him, he'd bring up my TREATED and CONTROLLABLE mental illness and it would go back and forth with faults until we both lose our son, so for his sake I've just stopped talking to my ex more than absolutely necessary) but as soon as I have my life back together and am confident in my ability to take care of our son without him I am going to take all the crap he set out on me, send it back and watch him destroy himself. I figure watching him dig his own grave would be more satisfying than a "normal" hexing where I did all the work, and by god does he have a big shovel.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:27 pm

Well, if I were you I would forget about the getting back at him. I would simply do some uncrossing work, and fiery wall of protection. Then you need to put him, and anyone that can work for him in a mirror box. But you need to consult with a professional since he seems to have people on his side.

Miss_Liz · Unread post by **Miss_Liz** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:43 am

My ex and his (I know I over use the word in regards to her but there's a no cussing rule) harlot are [members of a religion to which the poster does not personally belong --EDITOR] and I want to do some reversal, mirror boxes and break up spells on them but I'm pretty sure they'd sense/notice/reverse and protect against them if i just went at it. I read the thread on breaking down hoodoo based protection but how would you do that on someone who uses different magic practices?

I do plan on doing reversal on him, but we have this agreement that once I get my life together I can have prime custody of our son (he even admitted to faking emotion for him) and that is going to take at least 2 years. He left me w/o a job, w/o a degree because he was the one who always stopped me from getting a job or going back to school. I don't trust him to give our son back unless his life has gone to pot; I have 2 years to really decide if and how I want revenge. I really want to break him and that back stabbing harlot up. I don't trust her to not use my son as a weapon and she goes out of her way to instigate fights and violence. I'm pretty sure she's behind a lot of his sudden crazy. He seems to have lost his friggen mind the moment they slept together.

He went so far as to accuse me of things he knew for a fact weren't true and the only way he'd get it in his head that I lied about our son's conception date (he was in the room each time when 3 different doctors at 3 different practices confirmed the date!) is if she said I told her I did. It's very possible I'll be satisfied with just breaking them up.

Miss_Liz · Unread post by **Miss_Liz** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:50 am

My ex and his (I know I over use the word in regards to her but there's a no cussing rule) harlot are [members of a religion to which the poster does not personally belong --EDITOR] and I want to do some reversal, mirror boxes and break up spells on them but I'm pretty sure they'd sense/notice/reverse and protect against them if i just went at it. I read the thread on breaking down hoodoo based protection but how would you do that on someone who uses different magic practices?

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:23 pm

The same way - magical protections generally all fall within the same catagories (barrier, wards, spirit guardians, etc), they are just done using different methodologies. The magic of [a religion to which the poster does not personally belong --EDITOR] is primarily based in European folk-magic, which isn't too much different than many of the methods used in conjure (since hoodoo has magical influence from the European folk-traditions) except it uses a different catalog of herbs, and uses different terminology. If you know what type of protection they're using, then you can work in a manner that will side-step that type of defense. Divination can help discover this.

[A religion to which the poster does not personally belong --EDITOR] is first and foremost a religion. Many are there because it is the spiritual philosophy and practice that most deeply resonates with them, and they have no desire to become a heavy-hitting witch.

There are some very well-trained and highly-laudable [members of a religion to which the poster does not personally belong --EDITOR] out there. There are also [members of a religion to which the poster does not personally belong --EDITOR] who have taken a great deal of time and effort honing their skills at folk-magic and are quite formidable. However, many people I have known and practiced alongside were fairly lax at spiritual protection and cleansing when compared to an experienced conjure practitioner.

I'll be honest and say that the majority of people do not keep up very rigorous protections, and don't do nearly the amount of spiritual cleansing that they should in my opinion. You may be in for less of struggle than you imagine.

Of course, if they are very active and skilled practitioners of folk-magic, then you may indeed need to be more careful.

Do, or get a reading to see what defenses they may have.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:15 pm

It doesn't matter what "type" of magic they practice, if they are talented and rooted in their tradition then they can be a formidable force when needed. Never categorize people according to the magick that they practice. Make assumptions at your own peril.

Ellis, divine the form their protections take and from there you can set a course to break down those protections. If you can get access to personal concerns then you'll have a foot in the door. Most European folk-magick traditions don't protect against poisoning through the feet since in their system evil is transmitted through other means. This means that rarely will they perform foot washings or wash down driveways or homes. Instead you'll find them setting up things like crystals to ground energies, or when under attack use visualizations and affirmations to deities to redirect the attack and cure them of ill.

Therefore their foot-tracks are one vulnerability you can use. If you have access to them send tricked letters, sprinkle powders in their driveway and yards etc.

Divination will help you further cement your plan.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:24 pm

I advise you to highly think about launching an attack or sending back anything on someone that possibly could be more stronger than you through any form of magic. Doing any revenge that can be reflected back on you can affect your son as well. If you are going to do anything like that, then you should hire a professional.

In any case, I would be high concentration on getting your life back together, and getting your son. And I hate to think this way, but I can see them changing their mind and not giving your son back to you.

I would work hoodoo to help get your life back together, and put my full concentration on that rather than even thinking about revenge. I understand you are angry, but the concentration needs to be on you, your life, and your son.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:36 pm

If you are going to do this Ellis, you need to cleanse, and protect yourself. I would not do a mirror box because this is going to affect your son possibly. However, you should do a binding doll insider a box, and bury it in a graveyard. I would not do break up work because it could get pretty violent since he hit you too so he is probably hitting her (just an assumption and probably a possibility) if that happens...it is going to affect your son. Your main focus should not be on getting revenge as I said in another thread. Cool off, get yourself together, and get your son back. Let them suffer together.

Miss_Liz · Unread post by **Miss_Liz** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:52 pm

I know, I just don't trust him at all to not find any reason to call CPS for some bs reason and try to take him away from me just to hurt me. He's already admitted to not loving him, which I don't even understand because he's just a beautiful little boy full of so much joy. I'm one verbal/physical abuse episode away from ordering DUME, If he can do this to me and he loved me at one point, what is he going to do to my son who he doesn't love?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:57 pm

I understand and hear what you are saying. But if you launch DUME on him, and he is into any kind of magic...there can be repercussions for you as well. I really think you need to get a reading to give you some clarity on how you need to deal with this situation. I understand that you are pissed off. I can feel that. BUT there is a child in the middle of all of this, and what is it going to serve him if you are affected by anything else magical he is doing to you. You cannot take that chance right now,and regardless if he loves your son or not, your son is still going to be affected by any magical attacks that might ensue on either one of you.

Miss_Liz · Unread post by **Miss_Liz** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:37 pm

Again, I know, I've sat here for 8 months taking all his abuse because there was nothing I could do magicly or mundanely for fear he would take my son away like he kept threatening to do. The divorce is final Friday which makes the parenting legally binding w/o change for 2 years so again I have 2 years to get everything together to try and get him back. I have some fiery wall of protection coming in the mail any day now (Miss Bri told me the reason I was having such a hard time getting a job, step one to getting on my feet, was cause I'd been hexed, which I'd suspected for a while but of course he swore up and down neither of them had done it; liar.) I'll get a job for like a week or 2 and it'll fall apart for one reason or another and I'm back to square one, not sure how I'm going to pay next month's rent. Luckily it's my birthday next month so I'll probably end up using mine (and my son's) birthday money on bills.
If I am going to do anything drastic, I'll wait until he deploys again, that way he won't be around my son. I wish I could just have him calmly hand my son back and then leave us both alone. I don't trust him to not hurt him.

sonny256 · Unread post by **sonny256** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:22 am

is it ok to cast a spell to return a lost lover during a waxing moon and light a candle for a honey jar on a full moon? or would that be too many spells at once? i have heard that it is ok but others say that you should focus all your energy into one spell at a time for good results, any advice would do me good, i am writing a journal on my successful spell work and notes that i should keep in mind.

Unread post by **cabriellenil** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:28 am

honey jar is usually an ongoing spell - you can work it everyday for starters, then MWF, or once a week or even once a month... on the top of other spells you have done/may be doing, so that's no problem.

sonny256 · Unread post by **sonny256** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:18 pm

so would like say a good luck spell be ok to work while i have a love spell already started?

ShadowyEmbrace · Unread post by **ShadowyEmbrace** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:03 pm

Well from what I've been reading on this site... And correct me if I'm wrong everyone but its not the amount of spells you cast its the amount of faith you put into the spells. I don't think there is a limit on the amount of spells you can cast but some would go against others nature. For instance you wouldn't want to cast an intranquility spell then turn around and cast a spell to get the person to feel good. What you should do is get a piece of paper and write out exactally what your goals are in your work and focus on one goal at a time. For instance if you simply want the person to contact you then do a spell, candle whatever for communication. Once that's established work on opening the person up to you about their feelings, once you get results with that work on getting the person to love you once again, and so and a so forth. If you have faith in your work then you shouldn't have to cast multipule spells at least I wouldn't think b/c your not going to get all the results at once at least I wouldn't think you would like you wouldn't want to approch a person in conversation and constantly change topics over and over again b/c the conversation would swing so much that confusion would accure. But as far as the amount of spells I wouldn't think it'd matter as long as its dirrected toward the one goal but I could be wrong I'm still reading. But it might be draining on your own person energies to keep doing spell after spell after spell. But casting multipule spells at once toward the same goal but different angles I think I could see like sharing different ideas on the same topic in conversation.

Unread post by **butchcomer** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:11 pm

As a rule of thumb, work as many spells as you can stay on top of. You should get a "gut-feeling" if you have too many things cooking. If you feel like you are spreading yourself too thin, you may just want to concentrate on your current work before starting something new. It would be fine to start a good luck spell if you have an ongoing love spell working, as long as you feel it. At least this is what I do. I don't know what other people do, but I totally go with my intuition. If I feel a spell is needed and I can put a lot of focus & energy into the work, I do it, even if the timing isn't "right" with moon phases. If you are doing multiple spells, things can get active as stuff manifests, I mean you can have money coming in, lovers calling, enemies leaving, developments in court cases, etc. all happening at once which leads to a pretty active life sometimes! Sometimes working multiple spells keeps you from over-obsessing on a particular spell which is good, but then again, it is possible to have too many irons in the fire so I guess just go with your gut on how much work you can comfortably do.

keirith · Unread post by **keirith** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:14 pm

I don't see why one could not do multiple spells one right after the other. After all professional spell casters must do this all the time.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:13 pm

You are look at quantity, but that is not really important. You want to look at the quality. You can cast as many spells as you like till you get what you want (so long as your intentions are clear and focused), or you can do a couple spells, its up to you. The importance is the quality of the work you are doing.

Are you focused?
Do you have good personal concerns?
What type of quality products are you using?
Are you able to effective direct your will in a prayerful fashion?

And so on and so forth.

sonny256 · Unread post by **sonny256** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:07 pm

very good advice,i thank you all for contributing.

Crescent Moon · Unread post by **Crescent Moon** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:53 am

Doing work for my self in the process can I do work for my children separately on the same day as mine for different things... I am doing some things for my middle child which is a success but now I need to do some candle work for my other two, will doing my work for me still be as effective if I did for them too at the same time?

I am worried for my oldest, I worry about her health, she seems to be unfocused and up and down on decisions she needs to make, she doesn't seem too stable at times and I want her to be successful and protected.

I am also worried for my only son, we works in a dangerous area and a lot of jealously is surrounding him and not making ends meets for his family, he seems stable cuz he is still working in the same place but the guys he work with really doesn't care for him and I am afraid for him..... he needs the money and if he leaves he won't be able to find work anywhere else right now and he refuses to let his wife carry everything,
Besides lighting my work I lite white candles for them and pray very hard...

I lite red heart candles for my middle child to find someone to love her and her children and to stay with her and protect them... and she is finally happy. I consider the work for her was very successful
Note: I did this work for her before I started my work for myself.

niteraptor · Unread post by **niteraptor** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:13 pm

im a newbie here, but i always say, if there is a child involved do what is best for the child, if the person doing the negative working may be influencing the child in a negative fashion, some reveal work should be done, to protect and separate the negative from harming them perimdently.

learning more all the time

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:00 am

You can always do multiple works with different intentions on a single day. You want to keep your intentions clear and keep yourself and your workspace cleansed.

Now since you are working on your family you can either focus on things like generally blessing, protection, and success work (who doesn't need a little of these anyway) and work your conjure on your family as a whole, or you can do separate works targeting specific things.

niteraptor · Unread post by **niteraptor** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:18 pm

when working with multiple spells, a candle for peaceful home, a hunnyjar for healing and reconciliation, vinegar jar for removals of rotten people/influences. do i make these on the same day? how close can they be put around the house. i have only one altar but i was going to burn the candles across the room on another table and leave the jar on my curio shelf. do i start with the negitive first, wash up, then set up the positive 7 day candles and jar?

thank you all!

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:55 pm

First off, a vinegar jar would not be to remove people and rotten influences. If anything it makes them rot, and causes turmoil in their lives, or causes relationships to sour. If you want to remove people from your life you need to do a freezer jar, or make some kind of hot foot jar if you wanted to.

Yes you an make them in the same day. I recommend keeping the vinegar jar separate from the other things. In addition, make sure that cleanse yourself when going from working with one thing to another. It does not matter which one you start first. Personally, I like to start my positive workings before the "negative". But that is just my preference.

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:05 pm

I totally agree. Make sure also to pray when doing BOTH positive and negative also.
Good luck!

niteraptor · Unread post by **niteraptor** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:40 pm

ROT! thank you for clearing that up, i will put the vinegar jar in my compost heap. perfect place for that gathering of miscreants!!
my hot foot is on order so i will wait for that part.
i need the positive asap so i will do those candles today.

many thanks
off to work.

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:33 am

I actually would not work all three of these on the same day if you can help it. I would do the Vinegar jar on a Tuesday (if your main intention is to cause fiery discord) or a Saturday (if your main intention is destruction/removal). Your peaceful home candle would be good to do on a Sunday or Monday and the honey jar you mention would be good to do on a Monday (if more healing oriented) or Friday (if more love/sex oriented).
You CAN do all three on the same day, but I do lots of spell work for clients and I do not like going from drawing/positive work to negative/banishing work in the same time frame unless a real emergency comes up. The days of the week have their own planetary influences and powers so use them if you are able

You can also put the hot foot work in the bathroom, that is a traditional place a lot of workers use.

good luck,
Bri

Crescent Moon · Unread post by **Crescent Moon** » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:41 pm

Thank you ConjureMan....may many many blessings continue to flow your way.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:43 pm

Good Luck in your work Cresent Moon.

IBube · Unread post by **IBube** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:46 am

Dear Friends,

Is it wise to work more than 1 spell at a time? How many is too many?