How to Use Vinegar Jars Questions and Answers

Latina71 · Unread post by **Latina71** » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:27 pm

Hello everyone
I’m doing a vinegar jar to make a couple fight. I don’t have a cat or dog hair.. also I don’t have a black candle. Will it work without the hair and what other color candle can I use.
Thank you so much.

Unread post by **Miss Athena** » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:26 pm

Hello Latina71,

You can still do your break up jar without the cat and dog hair. In the absence of a black candle, use a white one as it is considered an all-purpose color.

I hope this helps. Good luck.

Ana11 · Unread post by **Ana11** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:18 am

I've used a vinegar jar with cat and dog hair, as well as other ingredients based on the instructions. But I am not seeing any changes - the targets are still getting along great and working against me. its been 3 weeks since I created this jar. I am not sure what is that that I did wrong. Should I create another vinegar jar? Any advice is appreciated.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:58 am

Ana11,

Not every spell works for everyone, this may not be the spell you need to use. I would not repeat the same spell if you did not get results. I would dispose of it, bury in a graveyard to kill the relationship. Then move to a new spell.

Miss Aida wrote a book Destroying Relationships, I highly suggest that book for your work: https://www.luckymojo.com/destroyingrelationships.html

JayDee

PrayPrepareProsper · Unread post by **PrayPrepareProsper** » Tue May 10, 2022 9:37 pm

Ever since my significant other (who I have done more for than his own parents) has started working out he has become so cocky. After me primarily paying for 6 trips over the past 6 months, he now wants us to be "platonic." This came literally out of nowhere - just days after him discussing different sex toys and positions he wants to try (we are very sexual). If I were to add him to a vinegar jar would it sour things between us or just his life? He needs a major reality check. I can write an essay on the things I have sacrificed and done for him out of the love in my heart yet now he is being horrible due to newfound "confidence" and interest from other gay men...

Unread post by **Miss Athena** » Thu May 12, 2022 8:58 am

Hello PrayPrepareProsper,

I'm sorry you are going through such difficulty with your partner.

I would not do a vinegar jar on him, as it could potentially make him angry and difficult to deal with. You said he needs a reality check, in that he needs to understand how badly he has been treating you.

For this, I suggest you look through the spells in the following topic, which includes spells to bring about remorse for bad behavior. I'm sure you can find ideas that will help you to humble him.
https://forum.luckymojo.com/bring-out-t ... t6473.html

I hope this helps. Good luck.

Moonchild9858 · Unread post by **Moonchild9858** » Wed Sep 07, 2022 2:46 pm

Hi I have a question regarding spitting at my vinegar jar. Will that undo any work or compromise the trick in any way? It’s on my altar.

Mr Christopher · Unread post by **Mr Christopher** » Wed Sep 07, 2022 7:47 pm

Hello Moonchild9858,

So I understand the question, you are spitting from your mouth at the jar? That would only enhance the work, many Italian and Jewish women famously spit curses, you see them in movies going Patoo Patoo Patoo. If you are concerned if the jar is working you can get a reading from Association of Independent Readers and Rootworkers. https://www.readersandrootworkers.org/w ... ootworkers

Best of luck,

Mr. Christopher

Moonchild9858 · Unread post by **Moonchild9858** » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:56 pm

Thank you mr Christopher. I’ve also been torturing mymy jar while I’m at work by putting it behind the toilet and leaving loud awful hateful heavy metal music playing next to it. Lol . I got creative with this one.

PurpleFire · Unread post by **PurpleFire** » Sun Nov 06, 2022 9:15 am

I've searched all over the forum and I've read Cat's Hoodoo in Theory and Practice. There's ONE little detail that I haven't found. I've been working a jar, and I'm about ready to lay it. I will be placing it at their place of employment. I'd like to spread the liquid portion of the jar where they'll have to walk over it. Then I want to empty the rest of the contents into a hole on the property and bury it. My question, is it OKAY to empty the jar or must I hide/bury the whole jar?
My intention is very clear and there are personal concerns of each party, so I'm not worried about anyone else walking on it and being affected. Thank you in advance for your advice.

Mr Christopher · Unread post by **Mr Christopher** » Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:37 am

Hi PurpleFire,

It depends on the jar, you have posted vinegar jars so I am assuming you have a vinegar jar. Normally with a vinegar jar, you would bury the whole jar under their step, or on the property. The exception is War Water, you smash the jar on their front step to declare war as War Water is nasty smelling. Oils and powders are more something they will touch or walk on. That is called foot track magic. I hope this helps.

Here are some resources.
Bottle Spells https://www.luckymojo.com/bottlespells.html
"Cursing and Crossing" by Miss Aida https://www.luckymojo.com/cursingandcrossing.html
Foot track Magic https://www.luckymojo.com/foottrack.html

Best of luck,
Mr. Christopher

PurpleFire · Unread post by **PurpleFire** » Sun Nov 06, 2022 9:38 pm

Yes, I am working a vinegar jar at the moment. Since I am trying to separate two co-workers, I thought I could bury it on the property at their place of employment, or in a graveyard to bring death to the relationship. It's a big dang jar haha, trying to bury it quickly and not be caught at the jobsite could prove tricky since they have cameras up. I ultimately wanted to place and fix it where they'll have to pass by it everyday.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:41 am

PurpleFire,

There are many ways to deploy the jar once completed. As Mr. Christopher pointed out, a very traditional method is under the steps, this is done in love work to break the couple up.

Breaking up coworkers, you can bury it where they will pass daily (at work) or in a cemetery to kill their relationship, if you want them both gone, toss in running water.

I would not open a working jar to pour out its content to then bury it, that is like letting the spell out of the bottle. Rather I would order War Water and spread that where they will step, or take Break Up bath water and pour where they will step, even Break Up sachet powder and sprinkle it where they will step.

Miss Cat's book, "Bottle Up and Go," discusses the use of container spells in great detail.

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War Water: https://www.luckymojo.com/warwater.html

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diamond · Unread post by **diamond** » Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:24 pm

Hello
She already moved. And I had to move put. The father is blind and she is controlling him . How do I sour theor relashionship ? I don't have any luckymojo items. I only have a black skull candle , bewitching oil . And their personal items. What can I use out of my home to sour their relationship until I can get some lucky mojo items. Please help

Diamond

Mr Christopher · Unread post by **Mr Christopher** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:56 am

Hi Diamond,

Lemons have been used for years to sour relationships. Cut the lemon in half and put his name on the left side and hers on the right.

You can also do a vinegar jar.
- Write their names 9 times one of the left ones on the right side of a piece of paper.
- Rip the paper down the middle so one name on one piece and vis versa.
- Add to a jar 9 nails, 9 tacks, black dog hair, black cat hair, 9 chili pods, poppy seeds, vinegar, and name papers.
- lid and pray over it.
- shake 9 times.
- bury it in the yard upside down.
- if you don't have a yard, burn a black candle on it, then leave it in nearby woods, or even better on their property.

Lucky Mojo Curio Co sells this as a Break-Up Bottle Spell, but it works just as well on any relationship. https://www.luckymojo.com/products-break-up.html

For more tips on crossing check out "Cursing and Crossing" by Ms Aida
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Best of luck,
Mr. Christopher

Unread post by **JayDee** » Fri Dec 30, 2022 7:48 am

Diamond,

I moved your post to the proper category. You were posting under the topic on preventing a person from visiting, but the question is really about souring a relationship to cause it to end. On the forum we have topics for every life condition and hoodoo product. Please post the related questions in those areas, it helps keep the forum focused and cleaned up.

JayDee

diamond · Unread post by **diamond** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:34 am

Hello Mr Christopher

Thank you.
I have the daughter hair and dirty clothes should I put in the jar, also for husband I have same should I also put in the jar ? . I have acces to the place they are staying can I burry the jar there? Its a rental place though. Should I still pray with a black candle because I don't have .

Also if I put the jar at their place and I go sleep over will it affect me?

Diamond

Mr Christopher · Unread post by **Mr Christopher** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 8:22 am

Hi Diamond,

Yes, you can add their hair, you want to keep the bottle small so no need for dirty clothes.

Best of luck,
Mr. Christopher

Unread post by **JayDee** » Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:13 am

diamond ,

Adding a personal concern with strengthening the work, You do not need to overload the work with multiple personal concerns; meaning the spell does not become stronger because you add five items, you want an item in the work that is a link to the person.

You do not have to burn candles on the jar, but it is a way of working with it. If you do not have a candle then shake the jar as you pray what you want to happen.

Yes, bury it by the entrance where they stay and walk over it daily. It will not affect you, the work is to sour them, that is what the work does.

JayDee

diamond · Unread post by **diamond** » Sun Jan 01, 2023 6:58 am

Jaydee

I will put it on the property but the thing is I will have to put it somewhere near the house bacuse the entrance is already cemented . I Hope it will be okay. Or maybe in a flower pot close to the veranda.

Another question will this jar spell makes him want to send her back to her mother ? . Because last night he made it clear that they will be here always. How can I make him send her back ? His two sons also is here should I also put them in the jar ?

What can I do in the meantime. I have ordered some items on luckymojo but it will take around a month to get here and I can't wait this long.
I will do the jar spell in the meantime , is there a way to make him send her back to the mother ?

Diamond

Unread post by **JayDee** » Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:21 pm

diamond ,

You can bury it as close to the cement and the front door as possible.

The jar is to sour their relationship, unless the intention and the work was "send her away" then no it will not.

It is a hard job to separate a man from his children, it is natural for parents to want to me with them, therefore you are working against a natural inclination they have. Does it mean it is impossible or cannot happen? No, of course it can, it just has to be justified AND it is going to take continual work on your part. Everyone you want to sour goes into the jar.

I would shake the jar and curse their relationship to be as sour, nasty, fighting, discord.

Look into moving spells and more so Hotfoot which you can sprinkle in their shoes, dust their clothing, put the oil on items they touch. Get a packet of the bath crystals, dissolve part of it, pray over it, then add it to the rinse cycle of their laundry (kids not your mans).

Read more about Hotfoot on these two links:

Hotfoot: https://www.luckymojo.com/hotfoot.html
Hotfoot forum topic: spells-to-hot-foot-or-drive-away-rivals ... -t678.html

JayDee

diamond · Unread post by **diamond** » Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:28 am

Hello

I am about to buy a kit from luckymojo .breakup kit for the daughter and father. I've been reading about it and it says for lovers. Can you advice if this is the right kit to get to make them break up so she can go back to the mother and for him to see that this is the best solution. I have a red skull candle ,controlling oil commending oil , follow me boy oil , I intranquility oil . And deer tongue . How can I use that on him . Oh and bewitching oil.

Please advice on the best kit to break them apart for good.

Diamond

Mr Christopher · Unread post by **Mr Christopher** » Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:14 am

Hi Diamond,

Yes, you can use Break Up, make sure to put in extra Poppy Seeds to confuse and Butter Milk or Sour Milk instead of vinegar to sour the relationship. The other items you are mainly for love work. You can use the Red Skull with Controlling and Commanding, baptize it as your partner, and maybe rub some sexual fluid on this face. Put Controlling and Commanding oil on it, and say "Only thing of me, think of my sweet ...., think of the taste of my ....I am the only woman in your life now".

Here are the products recommended.

Skull candle-https://www.luckymojo.com/products-candle-skull.html
Poppy seed- http://herb-magic.com/poppy-seed.html
Controlling - https://www.luckymojo.com/oil-controlling.html
Commanding - https://www.luckymojo.com/commanding.html

Best of luck,
Mr. Christopher

diamond · Unread post by **diamond** » Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:50 am

Mr Christopher ,

Can I put both vinegar and sour milk ? Also I am thinking of despoing at at he cemetery. Will that work?

About the skull candle I was thinking of like putting a hole in it and put the oil . I have some of his personal stuff aswell should I put it in hole? I Dominate My Man oil, will that help to change his mind if I talk with the skull to make him see that what he decided was wrong and the his kids should be with their mum. I have controlling oil aswell. What's the difference

Diamond

Mr Christopher · Unread post by **Mr Christopher** » Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:18 am

Hi Diamond,

You can do vinegar as well, it's not going to hurt the work, but the bottle is smallish. Buried in a cemetery upside down is one traditional way of working.

You can put a hole in the candle, they are not hollow so you will need a screwdriver or drill, remember to save the shaving to refill the whole. I Dominate My Man can be used to control his thoughts and actions.

Learn more about that type of spell work on this other thread, this one is on vinegar jars: i-dominate-my-man-oil-questions-and-answers-t10669.html

Also, another way to deploy magical work to remove someone is at a crossroads, to drive them away as the vehicles drive over the items. You can bury the bottle or jar upside down or walk around and pour a portion of the contents out at every fork of the road.

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BalkanDiviner · Unread post by **BalkanDiviner** » Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:45 pm

I want to make a vinegar jar in order to effectively destroy someone's life by souring their success and health. The case is justified as this person is not only pure evil, sociopathic, no remorse, a magnet of negative energy, but also destroyed my life in the past.

Now besides the items, such as 9 pins, vinegar, lemon, poppy seeds, black and red pepper, dog poop, rotten milk and onion, I would like to incorporate graveyard dirt. My understanding is that graveyard dirt is bought in such cases from a man who was a soldier or died a violent death.

I have one such relatives, he was at war during WWII and he was a pretty despicable person, the adoptive father of my maternal grandfather.

On the other hand, I also have my paternal grandmother who died being bed ridden so pretty nasty, and was interested in magic herself. Do you think she would make a good trader in regard to graveyard dirt for the reason of my spell.

Thank you for your input!

Mr Christopher · Unread post by **Mr Christopher** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:46 am

Hi BalkanDiviner,

I would use the dirt of the WWII Soldier. Remember even though this person was not great in life you still must pay 3 coins for the dirt. Tell the spirits of the graveyard to not follow you home, and cross running water.

Another way to choose would be with a basic pendulum reading over the grave itself.

If you are unfamiliar with how a pendulum reading goes, you can listen to these podcasts:

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10/23/16 - LMHR Hour: Miss Cat, ConjureMan, and Susan Diamond on the Potent Pendulum!
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Best of luck,
Mr. Christopher

Frater Hod · Unread post by **Frater Hod** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:16 am

Hi BalkanDiviner,

Just to add something about the use of graveyard dirt to a vinegar jar; there is a good, long thread in the forum all about graveyard dirt here:

Graveyard Dirt Questions and Answers,
graveyard-dirt-questions-and-answers-t5465.html

This is a whole subject in itself, but for my part, I can tell you that the graveyard dirt of someone who, as they say, "died bad," is a potent addition in bottle spells, including vinegar jars, intended to cause damage.

I would not use my own grandmother's dirt in a vinegar, even if she was wicked, especially if the offender was another family member, because that would unbalance the family's spiritual dynamics. The graveyard dirt of a soldier would be far preferable, if he agreed to undertake the job.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:58 pm

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crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:04 pm

Hello

After reading the whole thread I would like to ask:

1) We can put photos of the parties and use them to write the petition on the back of the photo., then personal concerns are placed in the photo with other supplies such as dog hair etc and fold it?

2) If we fold it, how we fold it? I mean, for the party we want away from us, we fold it away from us, but what about for the one we want in our life? Towards us or it doesn't matter?

3) Can we use oils in five spot pattern on the photos?

4) Do we put the photo, petitionred, peppers and all the nasty things first and then the liquids such as war water, vinegar -- or the other way around?

5) Can we dissolve Inflammatory Confusion Bath Crystals in the liquids of the jar?

Unread post by **JayDee** » Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:35 pm

crystalangel,

Yes you can take a photo, write their name, add the personal concern and the cat or dog hair. Pray over it and call on the spirit of the person and the herb/ animal hair. You fold it away from you, to send away, turn to the left, to send away and repeat, this is done 3 times total.

The work is to sour two people not to sour you and the two people, therefore you do not worry about you and them, this spell is to sour them not you.

5-spot pattern is traditional.

A photo can be written on the back of a photo, then folded with the herbs, personal concern and animal hair. I would add them first then the liquid.

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blissful1 · Unread post by **blissful1** » Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:14 am

Hello! I have a quick question. I have the Bottle Up and Go book but a lot of the sour/vinegar jars require you to bury it on the person’s property which is impossible because they are not near me.

Could I store the sour jar in a dark place, like under my sink and shake up occasionally but keep it with me?

If the person is in a different state or even country how do you finish the spell if you aren’t near them to bury on their property or not near a body of water either? Just keep with you and store in a dark space hidden off? Or throw in a dumpster?

Unread post by **JayDee** » Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:34 am

blissful1,

One method of working the jar is to keep it under the toilet, think of toilets as where you shit, in the old days they would put them in an outhouse. If they are far away from you, you can bury it in a cemetery asking the spirit of the grave to hold them down, toss the whole jar in running water to send them away.

You can learn more about disposal of ritual remains on this forum topic: disposal-of-ritual-remains-questions-an ... %20remains

JayDee

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:08 am

Thanks a lot JayDee!

Sunny1973 · Unread post by **Sunny1973** » Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:48 am

I have a situation where my boss is finding reasons to keep me late at work etc. He is doing a poor job of his work and is looking to drag others down with him. I want thd head office to see what is going on and send him home. I want to do a vinegar jar spell to sour the already strained relation between the higher bosses and my boss. I plan to get a lemon n put their names in then add pepper n sulphur and tie it up. I will also add pics n their date of birth. Can i burn black candles dtessed in crossing oil on this jar?

I want them to fight n get rid of him quickly.

Mr Christopher · Unread post by **Mr Christopher** » Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:18 am

Hi Sunny1973,

The job market is fertile with new opportunities would it be easier to find new work at higher pay than get rid of your boss to have him replaced with a less competent manager? If you are up for this position and or he is sexes, racist, or bigoted, I strongly encourage ousting him. If you you are doing the spell with lemon and 9 needles, that's a sour spell.

I would personally do a break-up jar. https://www.luckymojo.com/breakup.html

TRADITIONAL BREAK UP SPELL IN A BOTTLE
Here is a magic spell you can work to break up a couple. It is what one might call an all-purpose spell because there are many variations that can be improvised from it. Note that this spell is not designed to break up a your lover and his or her outside partner and then bring your lover back. It is only a BREAK UP spell, not a break-up-and-reuiniting spell. If what you need is a Break Up AND a reuinion, i recommend either a different spell -- one which employs candles to represent every party in the matter, including you -- or working a two-part spell, first this bottle spell and then a reuinion or Reconciliation spell for you and your lover.
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INGREDIENTS:
1 black figural Divorce Candle
1 bottle Break Up Dressing Oil
1 packet Break Up Sachet Powder
1 packet Break Up Incense Powders
1 packet Hot Foot Powder
1 packet Goofer Dust
1 bottle containing
9 Pins, 9 Needles, 9 Nails,
Black Dog Hair, Black Cat Hair
1 packet Devil's Shoe Strings Curio
1 packet Devil Pod Curio
1 packet Hyssop Herb
2 white Offertory Candles

PREPARATION:
This spell is presented in several degrees of severity, allowing you to choose just how much trouble you want to make. In addition to the items here, you will need something personal from both parties, such as their hair, footprint-dirt, photos, business card, or body fluids like menstrual blood or semen. The more intimate the better. In addition, you should symbolically write their full names on two pieces of paper 9 times. Use black ink for the one you want to have get away and red ink for the one you want to stay near you. Use black ink for both, if you want both to get away. Whatever item you use, those things, plus the name-papers, will be referred to as "the couple's personal items." Not everyone works by Moon phases, but if you do, then perform this spell during the waning of the moon, so the Moon grows smaller while you work, symbolizing the diminishment of their relationship.

DOING THE JOB:
Make the Break Up incense powders into cones (use a twist of paper, pack the incense in with your finger, and turn it out of the cone) or place it loose on a brazier. On the Black Divorce Candle carve the couple's full names with the words BREAK UP between their names.

Dress the candle with Break Up oil and sprinkle it with Break Up sachet powder. For each of the next seven days burn a portion of the incense and one section of the candle. Pinch the candle out between times, never blow it out. During these 7 days, you will work the spell itself.

The bottle contains 9 Pins, 9 Needles, 9 Rusty Nails, the Hair of a Black Dog, and the Hair of a Black Cat. These are to cause pain, anger, emotional incompatibility, distance, and quarreling between the couple so that they will "fight like cats and dogs" and seek to part from each other. You have 3 types of powders. Each is alleged to produce a certain result. The more you use, the more mischief is believed to result. Break Up powder is to cause the couple to fight. Hotfoot powder is to drive one or both parties away. Goofer Dust is to mess people up seriously, even unto death. Choose 1, 2, or all 3 powders; blend them together if you want.

Mix the couple's personal items with the sachet powder(s) you have chosen, then put the mix in the bottle with the pins, needles, nails, black dog hair, and black cat hair; if you wish, you can fill the bottle with Four Theives Vinegar or plain vinegar to "sour their relationship."

Stop up the bottle and bury it under their doorstep where they will have to step over it. As you do this, pray aloud for their anger break-up in your own words; ask in the name of your God or Saint. If you can't put the bottle under their doorstep, hide it in a hollow tree where they can't find it, or carry it to the nearest graveyard and bury it (praying for the death of their relationship), or carry it to a crossroads and throw it into center of the road (praying for them to travel apart from each other), or throw it into running water (praying to have them both carried out of your life), or mail it to another city (praying for them to move away).

CLEANING UP:
It is important to properly dispose of ritual remains. Wrap up any left-over candle wax, incense ashes, and unused materials in a piece of black cloth. Secure it with black thread and tie it. Throw it out at a crossroads or bury it in a graveyard.

Best of luck,
Mr. Christopher

blissful1 · Unread post by **blissful1** » Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:15 pm

Thank you JayDee!

If I don’t live by moving bodies of water and don’t feel comfortable burying it at a cemetery due to the fear of being caught… are there other options?

I really like the under the toilet advice for the jar… but when I need to get rid of it could I also flush it down the toilet?

Only thing is I have boxers and socks from the target that I was going to put inside the jar… I can’t flush it down the toilet… only thing I could do is throw those away..

I’m in an apartment so don’t want to set any fires off trying to burn them.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:30 pm

blissful1 ,

This jar operates on the concept of contact and contagious magic, thus the item in the work is effected by the work, and therefore so are they. You would not flush, empty or do anything of the sort, unless you are done withe the work and no longer wish to inflict them.

If you cant find a good place to do the work, I suggest leaving it at a crossroad and letting the energy disperse. Do not just toss it away in garbage.

JayDee

blissful1 · Unread post by **blissful1** » Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:05 pm

Understood! Thank you so much JayDee!

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:27 am

Hello my beloved LM family.

I have read in this topic (yes I ve read the whoooole topic from page one

) that it is ok to put in vinegar jars dead files or bugs and that traditionally the flies especially are connected with the devil ( correct me if I am wrong)

So if we put them in a vinegar jar we do that saying for example "as the flies are dead so be your relationship" Or is there another purpose?

Also, the flies must be in same number as the people that we have put in the jar?

Mr Christopher · Unread post by **Mr Christopher** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:15 am

Hi Crystalangel,

Dead bugs, flies, and spiders are very traditional work for crossing, cursing, break up. You put dead bugs in War Water.

I have not seen a rule that says exactly how many bugs you should use.

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Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 11:42 am

Cruystalangel --

Just a follow-up to Mr. Christopher's comment --

1) No, there is no set rule for counting out dead insects. Some count, but some do not.

2) I do not count dead flies if i do not think of the dead flies as symbolizing the people in the case. For instance, i may think of dead things generally as being symbolic of decay and irreparable entropy and, with flies in particular, i am reminded of the Biblical "plague of flies" in the Book of Exodus, which served as a warning.

3) I do not put dead flies in Vinegar -- i put them in War Water, where they will decay. Vinegar is sour, and sours a relationship, but it pickles the dead flies and preserves them. I want them to rot.

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War Water at "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice."
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War Water Questions and Answers on the Lucky Mojo Forum
war-water-questions-and-answers-t17740.html

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crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:00 pm

Great advice!
Thank you Mr.Christopher and Miss Catherine!

Narcinarco · Unread post by **Narcinarco** » Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:15 am

Hi I am new here well I have been reading the forums for years but now signed up.
I have a quick question as it’s Saturday and I’d like to sour and end a relationship between my children father and her and have him return to me and my children. I have a condom he used with her and I’d like to make a powerful sour jar today, I’d like it to work fast. I have lemons, vinigar and some sulfur, nails asafoetida and saltpetre. I have read you can add old anchovies also which I have and also ginger. He is currently on home detention curfew but soon coming off in about a week so I do need it to work fast so he’s not spending more time with her. Can I start the jar today by just putting the used condom in a jar with vinigar and add the other ingredients over the next few days to exucute the jar on Tuesday? If I just plop the condom in vinigar now will it start to work straight away? As I need to leave my house now to collect my children from him and ideally I don’t want them in the house when I’m working on the jar.
Thank you so much in advance

Unread post by **JayDee** » Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:14 am

Narcinarco ,

I personally would make the jar once and add everything into it that you want to create the desired outcome. This jar will not bring him back, it will make them sour to one another, you will have to do another spell to return him to you. I would not add ginger as it can heat work up, but is more often a heating up love item. Rather I would use red hot peppers. You can wait till Tuesday the day of Mars, or you can work it today, Saturn a day for endings and destruction. The jar should be worked for several days, it is common to shake it as you curse their relationship, then burn a black candle on top. After 7 days bury it by their doorstep, walkway, area they will pass, or a cemetery to kill the love.

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JayDee

Lav1 · Unread post by **Lav1** » Fri Mar 31, 2023 5:22 pm

Question: I did a vinegar jar and today is day 7. I burned a black candle on top, I noticed my petition paper came apart while shaking around day 3, is this bad? Is the jar no good? Will I have to remake it? The candle burned clean, no wax residue for the first 5 days, day 6 and 7 left a trickle of wax running to one side like tear drops and a little residue as of it was sealing the lid of the mason jar. Day 7, which was today burned clean. Is this okay or again will the jar require a do over? It is to separate my husband from a negative male friend whom interferes in our marriage. I put my spouse name on one paper and the friend on another, placed them opposite of each other and folded tightly away from me. The jar has nails, limes and lemons. I believe I was shaking too hard.

Lav1 · Unread post by **Lav1** » Fri Mar 31, 2023 5:23 pm

Also, where do I place the jar now that it is done?

Unread post by **Reverend Art** » Fri Mar 31, 2023 5:51 pm

'Allo Lav1!

In short, no, the petition paper falling/breaking apart is not an issue in this case. Honestly, it could actually be looked at as a good sign, since the intention was to separate the two men. The clean burns with minimal residue would indicate to me that your work is of a justifiable nature and is working it's way through.

Although one thing gives me pause in your description of how you built the jar. I have some clarifying questions. When you say 'I put my spouse name on one paper and the friend on another, placed them opposite of each other and folded tightly away from me.'

Did you include yourself in the jar as well, or just the two men?

Regarding the folding, did you fold them BOTH away from you, or just the 'friend?'

When you say you placed them opposite of each other, do you mean you put both papers together with the names facing away from each other and folded them together?

As to your other question about what to do with it when it's "done" that can lead to a variety of options. My question, is it really done? Has the friend gone away? If not, the active working of the jar may be done but the work itself is not. I'm assuming you don't want the friend to come back...ever...into your husband's life. With this in mind you could take it and bury it at a crossroads, or you could throw it away and leave it to the landfill. There's actually an entire thread discussing the disposal of spell remnants titled Disposal of Ritual Remains Questions and Answers that can offer many, many suggestions!

Blessings!
Reverend Art

Iamabeliever · Unread post by **Iamabeliever** » Wed May 03, 2023 4:14 am

Blessings to all, if i want to do a vinegar jar on a couple but only have the name and photo of the woman and no name or photo of the man..will my vinegar jar be effective? I have had some great results with vinegar jars in the past.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Wed May 03, 2023 4:22 pm

Iamabeliever

You can start a jar with the information and items you have, have faith, and do the work. When you get personal concerns you can repeat the work to continue it. The more personal the concern the better.

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JayDee

Iamabeliever · Unread post by **Iamabeliever** » Sat May 06, 2023 10:18 pm

Thanks JayDee, i actually found out the guy's first name and where he works. How can I do a vinegar jar with the info that i have? Thanks to all at Lucky Mojo!

Unread post by **JayDee** » Sun May 07, 2023 4:42 am

Iamabeliever,

Add his name and work location such as "John who works at Store at (address)". If you can find out more info add that as well.

JayDee

Unread post by **Msmoody** » Sun May 07, 2023 9:16 am

I enjoy jar working, specially container spells. We can do different jar spells from love to revenge. Also spirit bottles, wouldn't they be considered container spells?. also
Is it better to bury the vinegar jar in a graveyard instead of where the person resides, due to not wanting to bump into them?.

I myself did do a reverse spell against someone with mirrors and had incorporated lucky mojo supplies.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Sun May 07, 2023 3:18 pm

Msmoody,

There are different ways of deploying this spell, and the reason you do it is important to the work. For example, if this is a jar to break a couple up, it is traditional to bury it under their stoop or doorstep, as they walk over it, they will fight. This is a form of Foot Track Magic that influences them by being in contact with it. The second, which you mentioned, a cemetery is used to kill or end things. I would use this method if I cannot bury by them, via not safe, no yard, cameras, and I want to kill or end their relationship.

JayDee

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Fri May 12, 2023 3:40 pm

Hello LM family!

Iam going to make two vinegar jars, one for my husband and his mother, and another one for him and his sister.

Iam planning to use:
Vinegar
Sour milk
Dog and cat hair
War water
Break up oil in 5 spot pattern
Broken glass to talk words that cut as glass
Photos with petition
Red peppers for fight
Bitter Aloe

I also want to use walnut leaves to break the power of their bond...is it ok?
Furthermore, are deer's tongue leaves used to make their mouth say nasty words to each other?

Also , I am planning to shake the jars till my goal will be reached. Then, bury them in the graveyard ,praying for their relationship to die.
I would like to ask...do I have to mske a hole on the lid before burying it upside down?

Unread post by **JayDee** » Fri May 12, 2023 4:32 pm

crystalangel,

Walnut is often used by a person who wishes to overcome relationship feelings and experiences. I would opt to add other items in place of this that are known to cause trouble and fighting, like nails, razors, pins, pepper, poppy, and lemon.

Deers Tongue is a common love herb, you can try and reverse the petition to make them talk nasty. In Hoodoo that is generally done with working Inflammatory items and Break Up items used to cause discord and fighting.

You do not need to make a whole prior to putting in the grave, you are blending two different spells together.

A great book on ending relationships and tips on doing so is Destroying Relationships by Miss Aida.

Destroying Relationships: https://www.luckymojo.com/destroyingrelationships.html

JayDee

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Sat May 13, 2023 11:54 am

JayDee,
Thanks for your answer!
So , no walnuts leaves...

I have that great book you proposed!!!

Unread post by **JayDee** » Sat May 13, 2023 1:37 pm

crystalangel,

Walnut Leaves on Lucky Mojo: https://www.herbmagic.com/walnut-leaf.html

JayDee

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Sat May 13, 2023 2:05 pm

Hello again JayDee,

Well, I am a little confused now... while reading the walnut leaves product...it says that csn be used to put jinxes etc.
Hmmm...so can I use it or not???

Another thing that Ism thinking about is how yo fold the photo -petion papers. Ok, for the mother in law snd sister in law fold away from me...
But what about my husband's??? You have answered to me in previous post that this spell doesn't concern me but them.
But although it may sounds silly, I don't feel right ti fold away from me his picture petition. May be it us because I got used to fold away people that I want them away from me.
So, what can I do keepings of the course Hoodoo tradition?

Unread post by **JayDee** » Sat May 13, 2023 3:51 pm

crystalangel ,

"Can I use it or not", that is a personal question, does the product fit with the work? Does it fit with your intention of the work, do all the items have a purpose and make sense? Also, we try not to say "use" as that makes it a one-sided relationship with ourselves and the spirits of the herbs, roots, curios etc.

If the spell is to cause them to fight, it has nothing to do with you. It is about them. You are adding him and his family members to a jar to cause them (not you) to fight and be unhappy and break up and not reconcile. If you feel uncomfortable then fold them away from you and his towards you. It will not change the intention of the work.

JayDee