Candles: How to Trim Carve Load Petition Pray Dress Arrange Light

Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Tue May 31, 2016 2:03 pm

I generally don't pay attention to a momentary puff of smoke (and don't recall seeing any such thing, but candles are made differently in different locations). Persistent smoke coming off a flame, yes -- it'll make shapes I can read as it burns, or it'll leave marks on the glass -- I can read those too. I sure don't like to see black smoke coming off a flame. That's not encouraging at all. I always trim the wick if it does that.

But just one little pffft? That's like getting one letter of one word in an alphabet you can't read.

Lilith Moon · Unread post by **Lilith Moon** » Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:33 am

On the subject of preparing candles beforehand - as itgirl92 asked about - I have found that my work is more potent and brings quicker and long lasting results if I load and dress them a day or two before I intend to light them.

I liken it to eating a stew that always tastes better the day after making it.

Also, my energy levels are low after preparing a candle and chanting my petition so that's another reason for setting it to one side for the next day...fresh energy and the anticipation of working brings me great results.

Hope this helps others.

cassiopaeia · Unread post by **cassiopaeia** » Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:20 pm

And as for me, I do better when I do everything in one go - the energy from the carving and dressing and petitioning builds into the energy for the lighting and the prayer. It's like playing music.

Which is just to say that there isn't one right way, I don't think. There are traditions and customs to be observed and respected, certainly, but there is still room in there for us all to find our own best way of working.

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:56 pm

Great dialogue, cassiopaeia and Lilith Moon!

thank you

Lilith Moon · Unread post by **Lilith Moon** » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:17 pm

Exactly, Cassiopaeia!

The only way to know for sure is to do the work, observe the results and then see if any tweaking is required next time.

Of course, there's been many times when I've had to work from start to finish due to urgency or plain old anger and the spells/workings have been successful.

What annoys me is when someone says that their way is the only way, and refuses to accept otherwise...me and thee show that to be untrue.

Back on topic, can anyone guide towards information regarding making a wax-based dressing to wrap around candles?

A long time ago I saw a couple of photos (Heaven alone knows where!) that showed what looked like a sheet of thin wax that had herbs mixed into it, and then it was somehow attached to a taper candle. I expect the layer was warmed up prior, but I am struggling to find anything anywhere.

TIA x

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:16 pm

Hello, Lilith Moon,

I am sure that cat knows about this (as she knows everything).

I'm not familiar with it. And my artistic abilities? Well, I make stick-men look sick. So, I don't have coordination for this kind of intricate work

But, wondering if they used wax paper, pour some wax, immediately laid crushed herbs, then spread it out thinly. Then, wrapped around a candle. I image that the microwave, if used inappropriately, could ruin the herbs.

But, If you do find it, could you PM it to me? I'd like to see what they did

Thanks!

Lilith Moon · Unread post by **Lilith Moon** » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:09 am

Hi Miss Aida, yes that's the method that I imagine is used and have thought about trying it but am loathe to waste anything.

Plus I've found that if something doesn't right when assembling a working then the 'fed up with this!' energy gets transferred over...I'm very critical and concious about everything being right from the outset.

If I find it, then I'll deffo PM you.

cassiopaeia · Unread post by **cassiopaeia** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:27 pm

Is there a way to doctor a vigil candle that's leaving tons of wax on the sides? Obviously I'm going to have to do more work on the situation, but I know that doctoring freestanding candles can give conditions a little boost so I was wondering if the same holds true with vigils.

Curios12 · Unread post by **Curios12** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:47 pm

Silly question..

Do I need to cleanse my candles that are coming from LM. I will be receiving my order on Tuesday 7/5 cant wait and I wanted to know since they were fixed and prayed over if I still have to do that, and what if I dont cleanse them will my work be less effective...someone answer thanks

Unread post by **Papa Newt** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:40 am

Hi Curios12,

In my opinion, when purchasing a Fixed Glass-Encased Candle there isn't a need to cleanse it the candle. When the candle does arrive, be sure to spend time praying over it before you light it.

Many blessings,

Papa Newt

Unread post by **Miss Athena** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:22 pm

Hi Curios12,

I agree with Papa Newt. When I buy figural or stick candles, I generally cleanse them with Florida Water before starting my work to eliminate any energy they've picked up from being handled by other people. I don't do that with fixed candles.

Good luck.

Pink kisses · Unread post by **Pink kisses** » Sat Jul 09, 2016 5:13 pm

I will be burning love me, follow me boy and compelling candles. I'm using the compelling candle for an extra edge, as mentioned in post #4 in this thread, by Miss Bri

1) Which candle should I put at the top of the triangle?

2) Is a petition/name paper needed, or can I use some fabric with his semen? Or should I have both?

Thanks

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:12 pm

Hello, Pink kisses --

1) As i read Miss Bri's post, she had three different love candles and dressed them with Compelling oil. She did not use a Compelling candle.

2) A petition is traditional.

Pink kisses · Unread post by **Pink kisses** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:13 pm

Thank you Catherineyronwode

So the compelling won't work in the way I thought it would? It is okay to add compelling oil to a 7 day candle?

I guess I'll have to call tomorrow and see if I can get my order changed.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:29 pm

Pink kisses --

Adding Compelling oil to another oil takes it from the realm of influencing or covincing to the realm of coercion. That is all.

Sabbyboo · Unread post by **Sabbyboo** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:46 pm

Hello all! Happy Monday! I hope I'm posting this in the correct place and please correct me if I'm not.
I wanted to know about writing a petition paper for both me and my husband. I'm doing some road opening work and I've never written a petition or dressed a candle for more than one person. Please don't laugh at me. Should I just cross our names and write what we're hoping to achieve in a circle around our names without lifting the pencil? Or is there another way I should be doing this? Also, when name carving, do I have to write both of our names (my maiden name) into the candle. It's a fixed, vigil candle. So my only place to write anything is at the top. Thank you so much for your help.

Unread post by **Miss Athena** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:14 pm

Hi Sabbyboo,

Personally, I would write both of your names on a single line as if it were one name (you are a married couple, thus a single entity), then encircle that with your petition. You would cross your names if you wanted to get something from the other person, not for the other person. I hope that makes sense.

Good luck.

Sabbyboo · Unread post by **Sabbyboo** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:20 pm

Thank you, Miss Athena
That makes perfect sense. I appreciate your help and guidance.

freda222 · Unread post by **freda222** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:48 pm

I wanted to burn candles in a triangle with a honey jar in the middle. I am trying to make someone favor me so that they extend a business offer.

I wanted to know if these three combo of candles would be ok:
roadopener- to clear away obstacles preventing target from extending offer
van van- to attract luck and open the way to receive any offer from target
command or compel- i currently have only commanding oil for the third but I wasnt sure if this would be too harsh since I want to put a honey jar in the middle

thanks for your help and time.

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:04 pm

Hello, freda222 ,

I like the first 2. My preference would be Compelling as opposed to commanding

I hope this helps

take care

freda222 · Unread post by **freda222** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:17 pm

hello,

I wanted to encourage communication between me and a target.

I wanted to know if setting three 4 inch candles in a triangle dressed with road opener is too much. I wanted to also place in the middle a orange candle dressed with mercury oil. thanks for all your help.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:43 am

Sounds good to me, freda222.

freda222 · Unread post by **freda222** » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:24 pm

Thank Miss Cat for the response. I had a question about the disposal of the wax for the candles set as the triangle. Since three of the outside candles were used to remove obstacles and the middle one was set to encourage communication, i am not sure how to dispose of the wax. I know that disposal at a crossroads is good when removing things like obstacles but since the middle candle in the triangle was used to encourage communication, is it ok to bury the remains of the spell in my potted plant? Thanks again for all your help.

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:35 pm

Hello, freda222,

Just the one for communication

Take care

Unread post by **Shutter** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:45 am

In a pinch, may I cut a 6 inch taper in half and burn the 3 inch candle on my jar? Or will that mess with the integrity of the candle and burn?

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:44 pm

Hello, Shutter --

Of course you can cut a candle in half, but unless you need the other half for something else right away, it is more traditional and also simply easier to burn the candle in two or more 15 minute sessions by pinching it out and relighting it.

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Unread post by **Shutter** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:26 pm

Thank you! I have 2 of those books in transit to me now. I'm bearing the wait time with Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic . (Just coming up on the entry for Cedar as we speak.)

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:39 pm

Shutter,

Good for you. I hope that Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic also expands your knowledge.

Unread post by **Shutter** » Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:55 pm

After reading a candle spell about success in a book by miss cat, I wanted to know if by a similar format I could use it for other conditions...

so, instead of a yellow candle with "sucess" carved in a spiral 9 times could I for instance have a black candle with "anxiety be gone" 9 times dressed with banishing oil and burned similarly so after each phrase/word is burnt I would snuff and wrap the candle and keep it going.

Perhaps with a different dressing, burning a purple candle with "do as i say" 9 times spiraled (burned over a person picture) before i go see the pictured client i work with?

Unread post by **Shutter** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:52 am

If I used a glass dish over a picture (with name and birthday on back of picture) as a buffer to the candle, would i be able to save that picture and go back to use it buffered again for a different candle spell or the same type of candle spell at a different time?

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:24 pm

Shutter --

1. Regarding inscribing or carving petitions in the form of a single word or short phrase in a spiral down the length of a free-standing candle wax: Yes, this is exactly how it is done. This is fully described in my book "The Art of Hoodoo Candle Magic."

2. Regarding protection and re-use of a petition or photo under a glass plate beneath a candle: Yes. This way of working is very old, and is fully described in my book "The Art of Hoodoo Candle Magic."

Variations include

A. A white restaurant ware dish (popular in the Spiritual Church), with or without a prayer written in washable ink on the plate

B. A glass "wedding favour coaster" which holds a photo insert. We sell the coasters -- with a mirrored border, for reversing spells -- at our shop.

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Unread post by **Shutter** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:28 pm

Thank you very very much for the reply. I am reading your book which is where the basis of my knowledge formed, I just wanted to clarify those two particular forms of burning in a generalized manner so I can be confident working outside the realm of just one or two pre written spells and moreso understand the tradition and work "the right way", not be generalizing a sucess spell for example end it would not work under another situation.

And thank you for the link

Just to clarify though, I assume the prayer in the restaraunt dish variation is written on the part that faces down onto the petition or photo?

Unread post by **Shutter** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:32 pm

Just to clarify by the way, I assume the prayer in the restraint dish variation is written on the part that faces down onto the petition or photo?

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:56 pm

Hello, Shutter ,

I don't understand your question...

pam4362002 · Unread post by **pam4362002** » Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:24 pm

Hi everyone. Today I had done an influence vigil candle, but there were so much puddle of wax. I thought it may be the oils, I didn't used too much, but the puddle covers most the wick! I had tried getting excess out, snuffling the wick so I can move the wax away from the wick when it harden. Which it barely does. but when I relight it, same problem. The wick finally went out on its own from drowning. This the first time this happened. The wax is so soft and became a messy wax, I don't know what to do now. The glass candle is now wrapped in a bag. Should I consider it done? Any help will be appreciated on what to do. Thanks.

pam4362002 · Unread post by **pam4362002** » Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:26 am

I am going to redo the spell, using a taper candle. The glass candle, I saw what else happened, the wick was short. I shouldn't have trimmed it when it wasn't too long in the first place. I'm just used to flames flaring up. Should I buy the wax from the glass candle near my home since it was for a good spell or crossroads. Thanks.

Unread post by **Sister Jean** » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:09 am

Hello pam4362002,

Yes, trimming a wick too short on a candle can easily cause it to drown. Lesson learned!

If the candle was to draw in something good to you (like money or love), bury the wax near your front door and recycle the glass. You can read more about ritually disposing of spell remains here:

http://www.luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html

pam4362002 · Unread post by **pam4362002** » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:52 am

Thanks Sister Jean. Yes, I definitely learned my lesson on that one. I will bury it near my door. Thanks again.

pam4362002 · Unread post by **pam4362002** » Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:28 pm

Update: I had redone the spell using a 10 inch taper candle. It burned down in 5 and a half hours. The candle holder, a gold star shaped holder got singed. The flame was leaning over an edge and done that. Could that just be a bad sign. The entire thing was black and most of the wax burned down. Some outside the petition (on plate) and some underneath remained. Should I had moved the edges and bend it away from the flame. It was the wick inside then. I thought it I done that, the flame would go out.

pam4362002 · Unread post by **pam4362002** » Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:03 pm

It also had white smoke coming from it. I'm not sure if the herbs caused the singed either. Thank you.

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:23 pm

Hello, pam4362002 ,

We can't speak for products purchased outside of Lucky Mojo.

I am so sorry.

Take care

pam4362002 · Unread post by **pam4362002** » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:22 am

Thanks Miss Aida. I'm going to go with the fact of using too much herbs and spices, and not having them ground on a taper candle.

RedAngel · Unread post by **RedAngel** » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:26 am

Hi everyone,

I haven't seen mention of this so maybe it's just me or supposed to happen. I carved my ex's name in a spiral pattern with a needle into my candle but when I dressed it, I used my menstrual blood and some urine. The carving is gone. So do I re do the carving or write his name on paper and place it under the candle holder

Unread post by **natstein** » Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:45 pm

Hello RedAngel,

You do not have to include a petition paper under the candle but you certainly can do so. The carving is likley still present on the candle but just difficult to see.

Peace~

Nathen

RedAngel · Unread post by **RedAngel** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:23 am

Thank you Nathen. I did look in daylight and the carvings are still there, I just can't feel them. I must say, I have enjoyed reading about hoodoo and learning off of the site because I feel more connected to it than I did with wicca (which I tried to practice as a teen) It might be my catholic roots and that I still feel very close to Christianity. But I love this forum and am looking forward to learning more and combining the two. I feel a connection to both relationships (with Jesus and the practice of hoodoo) So thank you all for being here and being so helpful and informative.

Fox · Unread post by **Fox** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:53 pm

Hi,

Had a question about petitions for novena candles - should I reuse the same petition I taped to the glass if I'm burning a nine Tuesday series of novenas for St. Martha, since its the exact same wish/petition?

pam4362002 · Unread post by **pam4362002** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:30 am

Hi Fox,

I would. In fact, that's what I did. I'm holding onto the photo and petition I used for a vigil to do for another in the next week or two.

I hope that helps.

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:46 pm

Hello, Fox ,

pam4362002 » is absolutely correct!

Thank you, pam4362002 », for your help!

Take care

Unread post by **zenrez** » Tue May 30, 2017 8:17 am

Hi Everyone

Didnt know where to post this so I am posting it here. I think its business related.

I am in the process of designing some candle labels for the glass candles I purchased and wonder what paper everyone uses when they create their custom candles? Is it special heat proof paper? something i can order on amazon or staples?
I noticed the labels from lucky mojo are very sharp and glossy as well, are those printed in house or do you send them out to print and place them on the candles on site?

Thanks!
Rez

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Tue May 30, 2017 8:52 pm

Hello, zenrez ,

Please call the shop and ask them. I have no idea what they use. But, maybe they can sell you some. It doesn't hurt to ask.

Take care

thearrowsapothecary · Unread post by **thearrowsapothecary** » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:22 pm

Apologies if this has already been answered - but Im sort of in a jam. I want to use a red male figure candle but dont have good suppliers close to me in Los Angeles. I find that their candles are of poor quality. I buy exclusively from Lucky Mojo unless Im in an emergency (like right now) and need something immediate - but I'm planning a trip up north in a couple weeks so will do my shopping in store as opposed to ordering online. Anyways, I cant wait until Im in Forestville to buy the red male figure candle because I need to do this spell on this upcoming full moon. My question is - can I carve a male figure into a pillar candle? I cant find anything about making your own 'figure' candle by carving so thought it would be smart to ask this amazing group

Apologies for the long back story but any help is appreciated! Looking forward to my shopping visit - my favorite magical store of all time

Love and light!

Unread post by **Sister Jean** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:48 pm

Hello thearrowsapothecary,

Yes, you could carve a plain red pillar candle into a figure shape, absolutely.

Good luck to you in your work.

Mysticmama4 · Unread post by **Mysticmama4** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:47 am

Hello all,

I searched a bit for an answer to my question but could not find it on the forum, so I decided to ask. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post...

I want to set up a novena candle working with St. Rita for marriage/family difficulties. I will dress the candle with oil and herbs as well as dedicate it to St. Rita. I will also tape my petition paper to the bottom of the candle, then place it in front of a picture that is already framed.

I never worked with Novena candles because with a husband and kids I cannot leave it burning continuously so I plan to light and pinch it out with my fingers each time I pray over it(my own prayers combined with Novena prayers and psalms)

Also, I normally would print out a picture of St. Rita and tape it around the candle but Any workings I do must be secretive.

Is it ok to do as I've described? Without any pictures or prayer cards set up on the altar? Does it matter very much?

Thank you

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:03 pm

Hello, Mysticmama4 ,

All I can tell you is that the more effort that you put into the a Novena, the better chances of favorable results.

It should still work but I question the part that you will pinch it out as soon as our are done with petition and prayers.

You'll just have to try this by trial ad error

I hope it works for you.

take care

Mysticmama4 · Unread post by **Mysticmama4** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:21 am

Thank you Miss Aida.

Ssexton · Unread post by **Ssexton** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:24 pm

Can I trim the wax on a candle? The candle is burning in the middle but leaving a small solid ring of wax around the outside. It has naturally melted a hole for excess was disposal but I'm worried about the candle. I've looked everywhere and can't find why it's doing it or if I can trim it.

Thank you!

Ssexton · Unread post by **Ssexton** » Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:18 pm

Can I trim the wax on a candle? The candle is burning in the middle but leaving a small solid ring of wax around the outside. It has naturally melted a hole for excess was disposal but I'm worried about the candle. I've looked everywhere and can't find why it's doing it or if I can trim it.

Thank you!

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:05 pm

Hello, Ssexton

Yes, it's called "Doctoring the candle".

And it is mentioned on this page:

www.luckymojo.com/candlemagicdivination.html

Take care

Flowers345 · Unread post by **Flowers345** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:47 pm

Annointing a free standing break up candle

When Annointing should stroke the oil from middle outward moving up to wick or should i move from middle downward motion? Any suggestions woild help?

Also a candle back to back with a candle connected in the middle maling it 3 wicks how should I dress this ttpe of break up candle. The object is in the middle of the couple that is back to back?

Thank you for the feeback you may give

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:43 am

Hello, Flowers345 ,

Welcome to the forum!

Check out this page for a clear understanding of oil applications:

www.luckymojo.com/oils.html

Take care