LMHR Hour Chat Log May 10, 2006 Break Up and Hot Foot Spells - Chat Log

[MissMichaele]

2006-6) May 10: Open Forum Call-In Show on the Topic of Break Up and Hot Foot Spells
with Dr. Eoghan Ballard, Dara Anslowar, Ms. Robin York, Catherine Yronwode, Nagasiva Yronwode, Dr. Christos Kioni.

SINDY: What's the easiest hotfoot spell you know?

MISS CAT: Throw salt and pepper after someone as they leave your place, while ordering them by name to stay away. You can add more ingredients such as red pepper, graveyard dirt, etc., though the more such things you add, the closer you come to making Hot Foot Powder.

Hotfoot powder is thrown at the target's house, not yours. Most recipes have salt, red pepper, black pepper, maybe black mustard seed, graveyard dirt from someone willing to do harsh work; snake meat (dried & powdered), snake sheds, dead spiders, ground lizard -- stinging or verminous animals.

SIVA: Dressing their shoes is optimum

DARA: To get a guest to leave -- someone who has simply overstayed their welcome -- upend a broom.

MISS CAT: May have to add salt and pepper to the broom after upending it. Robert Johnson sings about "getting up soon in the morning" (before dawn) to "dust my broom" so as to drive off another man.

EOGHAN: Nowadays you can keep off unwanted people by checking who's calling with Caller ID.

MISS CAT: You can also use a dollbaby for hotfooting: Charles W. Chesnutt wrote a great story, "Hot Foot Hannibal," about this. The dollbaby was made of twigs, had red-pepper-pod feet and elder-pith head, to make the target "hot-footed and lightheaded."

DARA: Client asked me to break up her own relationship with a foreigner. I lined bottle container with map of target's home country, threw it in water and it floated downstream. Yes, he left.

MISS CAT: I was often told in the old days to "use a picture of the Eiffel Tower" or "Paris, France" in cande-burning spells intended to drive someone away, and mail the wax remains to France. A lot of old rootworkers told me this, but i had no idea why.

BEATRICE: If you're a third party and care about someone in an abusive relationship: should you break it up? And how?

MISS CAT: Start with a protection spell for the victim -- then cut loose on the perpetrator, always keeping the highest motives in mind. It will work stronger and better if you *contact* him, rather than just burning a candle. Even a bottle spell is more effective than candle work alone.

If there is a child involved, you have to tailor the spell to the situation: "Send him away but make sure he sends money back."

DARA: When right is on your side, it'll work FAST.

MISS CAT: Eoghan, how would you do this kind of work?

EOGHAN: I would tie him down. I would make a packet on him. Wrap the materials, including bone, in red cloth tied with much black thread, bury it, speaking instructions as you do so. Similar work on person's name. Set aside some of the mixture for target to walk over.

MISS CAT: Client told me: she cut a drug-addicted father apart from her baby by cutting apart a photo of them both. Singed edges and burned candles on them. Then he went thru rehab and contacted her. She wanted him to pay for baby's upkeep; he resisted, claimed child wasn't his. Rather than jumping through hoops -- DNA testing, etc. -- asked me for advice.

I advised her to paste the two photos together -- with a gap of about an inch -- held together with a dollar bill. He came down off his high horse and supported the baby.

KIM: How can I keep my boyfriend away from a girl who put something on him? I just want her to go away. It's gotten to the point where he downright hates me. They're not living together. He's not living with me any more, either.

MISS CAT: You want not only to break them up but also bring him back to YOU. First get rid of her.

MS. ROBIN: I would get pictures of them -- a cel-phone-camera is the easiest. Float her away in a jar, or throw down around her house or car: sulphur and/or goofer dust. Light candle -- black is my favorite -- fixed with peppers, black peppercorns, dog & cat hair, coffin nails, on their names: fold the paper and put their names one on each side of the fold -- NOT crossed. Fold away from you, of course. You can place the names on either side of the candle.

MISS CAT: A bottle spell could cause them to fight. Same ingredients, also vinegar to sour their lives. You could even cut the paper down the middle. Add nine pins, nine needles, nine nails. Make sure they point every which way. You could ball up the two name papers so they are separated by the pins and needles. Say, "May your lives be sour, may you fight like dogs and cats," etc., as you shake the bottle daily.

To get him back -- that's another radio show; you might use a honey jar, or Dara has a beautiful spell that includes fish hooks to bring men back.

DARA: To drive her away, write her name on one paper, his on another, especially on photocopies of their pictures. Get some really hot whole dried peppers, such as habaneros. Pour all the seeds from one pepper onto one picture and all the seeds from the other pepper onto the other picture. Fold the papers away from each other. Twist them up like hand-rolled cigarettes. Heat them in a frying pan, shaking the pan and talking; especially when you know they'll be together, just before bed, for instance. BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THOSE PEPPERS! WEAR GLOVES! Or at least, don't touch your face or eyes until after you have washed your hands!

DR. KIONI: Another kind of bottle spell: Get two insects that are mortal enemies such as a spider and a cockroach or a red ant and black ant, and put them in the bottle. They WILL fight and one WILL die -- and it will result in the death of one party.

MISS CAT: Sounds like ancient Chinese spell which calls for *five* deadly vermin in porcelain rice bowl with lid. Grind up the critters that don't survive and use that as your stock poison for enemy work.

DR. KIONI: You use the death energy as the basis for the bottle, you can then add other ingredients

MISS CAT: This is why people use cat hair and dog hair, because they are enemies as well.

Similar idea: write targets' names on opposite ends of egg; boil in your own urine. Peel the egg, feed half to a cat and half to a dog, saying of the couple, "You hate each other as cats hate dogs" and ... "as dogs hate cats." This is an ancient Jewish spell; appears in MS back to 2nd century.

RON: Aside from dressing candle with hotfoot oil, could you dress door handles?

MISS CAT: You could, but if they get it on their eyes or nose, they'll know something's up. More traditional to use Hot Foot Powder. I have a catalog from the 1940's which advertises Hot Foot oil as a *new* product, but Hot Foot Powder is very old.

Mix Hot Foot Powder with local dirt so it's not visible. Remember to call their name. Rather than the oil on the car door handle, you cam put Hot Foot Powder in wheel wells atop tires.

Another way to send someone away: sprinkle their foot track with Hot Foot Powder, then use a spoon to turn it around so it goes the other way, leaving your house.

Sometimes you have to use Hot Foot on your own property -- to evict an undesirable tenant, for instance. Essential that you call the target's name as you work so you don't hotfoot yourself.

DR. KIONI: Ritually clean area afterwards?

MISS CAT: Definitely.

OWL: We have a nasty neighbor. I don't think I can get into his car, but he does park it someplace accessible, on dirt. Just sprinkle it around car so he steps into it before he gets in?

MISS CAT: Most traditional to do that to get someone out of a workplace. It will work, but putting it at his house is more effective to get him to leave the neighborhood.

OWL: Well, I could sprinkle it all around his house and on his deck, I suppose.

MISS CAT: He has a deck? Put a bottle spell underneath it for him to walk OVER -- classic!

BEATRICE: what if you want to hotfoot a *situation* -- or you don't know who the target is?

MISS CAT: For a *situation,* You want protection spells. If an unknown target leaves a *trace* of any kind, use that to get back at them. You don't need the name if you have a trace. One woman worked on some hunters who were trespassing and poaching deer on her property; she had nothing but shotgun shells to work with. Made up some Hot Foot Powder and put it in a Naga effigy doll with the shells; one on each corner of her property in a tree, w/ No Hunting sign under each one.

SINDY: Sneaky tricks seem to be necessary for Hot Foot work.

MISS CAT: Frequently, because often it's a family member or (former) friend you need to send away. In the case of the shotgun shells, it wasn't so much sneaky as -- only the shells were available.

Someone captured someone's voice on an answering machine and used THE WHOLE MACHINE plus tape as a dollbaby.

MS. ROBIN: You could just take out the tape, if it uses those tiny cassettes, and put that inside a dollbaby.

SIVA: You can throw things at their house if you know who they are and
where they live.

MS. ROBIN: Throw black mustard seed.

MISS CAT: People used to say, as a euphemism, "I'm gonna go dress his yard."

MS. ROBIN: Dress underwear, hats, gift basket, so they hex themselves w/o knowing it.

MISS CAT: Yes, the classic sneaky trick. I never laughed so hard as when a man bought a "kill 'em" mojo bag and a good luck mojo bag -- and switched the instruction papers! That took some guts: what if the target had opened the bag and looked inside? He gave it to his target saying "It'll make you a better musician"!

Break-up spells are actually simple. Black bride-and-broom candles! When they're almost burned down, you chop them apart. Most breakup spells involve motion, action on YOUR part.

Hot Foot spells are less active -- often no more than laying powder.

Cut and Clear spell is doing a breakup spell on yourself, when you're in a relationship you need to end.

Start off with black walnut tea bath if you're not strong enough for Cut and Clear. The reason Black Walnut is so potent to separate you from the past is that it actually secretes a botanical poison from its roots that kills other plants near it.

CYNTHIA: Can one use plants like creosote bush, which have similar toxins?

MISS CAT: Yes, any plant that poisons other plants to make space for itself. Plant four of such plants at corners of property -- no one will bother you.

DR. KIONI: We still have some time left. Does anyone have a hoodoo question which is not necessarily about breakup and hotfoot work?

MOTHER PYRITE: I remember reading something that might explain "mailing people to the Eiffel tower": First of all, it's made of iron. And I remember reading somewhere that "When Creoles die, they go to Paris" -- a proverb in New Orleans, 19th century.

MISS CAT: That makes sense; I learned conjure in Oakland CA, but from rootworkers who had mostly come from the Gulf Coast.

MOTHER PYRITE: I'd like to return to Beatrice's question about working a breakup spell on a bad *situation.* I'd like to be able to do that myself.

MISS CAT: Beatrice, please be more specific about the situation you were referring to?

BEATRICE: For instance, falling for the same kind of abusive jerk in every relationship; or the same awful situation follows them from one job to the next, or unfairly terminated from job after job.

MISS CAT: This is more like crossed conditions; cleanse and open road. That's a more positive, optimistic kind of work. Now, Mother Pyrite, what kind of situation were you referring to?

MOTHER PYRITE: I have most of the things I need to carry on my business, gathering skills and power, have carried out several jobs
successfully; but I just can't figure out how to attract those first few customers.

UNKNOWN CALLER: Burn a yellow & green candle: yellow on top (to open the road), green on bottom (to attract money).

MISS CAT: Give away samples -- "Cast your bread upon the waters..."

I'll tell you how Lucky Mojo started: a woman called me to ask for a John the Conqueror root because i had written about it on a web page. I just gave her one of my own. She called up and asked if i had any more. "Well, i can get you some more, but you'll have to *buy* them." She did. Even today, new customers get free incense, free dream books, free flyers; I routinely give away any overstocks I get from suppliers.

SINDY: Try working with St. Joseph.

MISS CAT: Sindy is St. Joseph's best friend.

DARA: Build up a reputation as a reader.

MISS CAT: Yes, set up in the flea market and offer free readings for a while. Hand out free sample vials of oil.

MS. ROBIN: Offer phone readings. Do free readins for friends and let your friends network for you.

MOTHER PYRITE: My friends haven't told anybody yet. I guess I'll burn an orange candle on a honey jar, like Dara recommends to get attention. I love that spell.

MISS CAT: Word of mouth is the traditional marketing mainstay for conjures. Offer half-price readings "today only!" I used to go to one worker every time he offered half-price readings. Once he performed an anointing on my head with something that smelled wonderful, and gave me a little sample vial to take home. I asked for more, and he said, "That'll cost you, honey."

DR. KIONI: Make sure your motive is good, that you are operating from a place of integrity, that you are not *stealing* clients from other readers. Wish abundance to everyone, including other practitioners.

MISS CAT: Yes, looking out for your fellow rootworkers is another aspect of integrity. This may mean specializing, and referring clients
to other workers when they need services you can't or won't provide. Of course this means networking with other workers.

[MissMichaele]

--- In hrcourse@yahoogroups.com, "motherkali" <redjasper@...> recorded the good advise given to her:

> DR. KIONI: Make sure your motive is good, that you are operating from
> a place of integrity, that you are not *stealing* clients from other
> readers. Wish abundance to everyone, including other practitioners.
>
> MISS CAT: Yes, looking out for your fellow rootworkers is another
> aspect of integrity. This may mean specializing, and referring clients
> to other workers when they need services you can't or won't provide.
> Of course this means networking with other workers.

Since it doesn't show show up in the notes I took, let me reiterate my heartfelt gratitude for these reminders. I'm most comfortable living the Golden Rule life, and I appreciate learning how to apply it to business.

Michaele / Mother Pyrite

[Honeybeelight]

Michaele,

I just wanted to add that as someone who is more often the patient than the doctor, I gain respect for workers who know, refer to, and recommend other workers, and am just a little suspicious when someone claims to have invented his or her own system entirely from scratch and doesn't have any contact with anyone else. It's usually a bad sign.

Whether it's a rootworker honoring the people who taught him or her, or referring a client to someone they feel can help them more, or a person who faithfully passes on the African traditions they learn and the lineage of their house, or a writer who acknowledges all of his or her sources, this sort of integrity increases trust and enriches everyone.

Melissa

[catherineyronwode]

It is just amazing to me that these long-lost chat logs from 2006 have shown up in 2021. The audio files are long gone, but our voices -- and dozens of spells -- live on in the text captured so faithfully by Miss Michaele. THANK YOU, Miss Michaele.