Here's the chat log which was generated on the day of the show!
The Mystics, Mages, and Magical Places CHAT LOG, July 31, 2023, 4:00pm PT - 5:30pm PT
2023-07-31 18:45 trollt Good greetings.
2023-07-31 18:48 lmcradionetwork Helloooooo and welcome!
2023-07-31 18:49 jaydeehoodoo Hello everyone
2023-07-31 18:49 rev_art Excited to have Doc Murphy joining us once again!
2023-07-31 18:49 rev_art Hey @trollt and @jaydeehoodoo!
2023-07-31 18:49 jaydeehoodoo Hey @rev_art
2023-07-31 18:51 trollt Thanks, y'all, for handling the Lucky Mojo Hoodoo Rootwork Hour yesterday for us. That was very kind of you.
2023-07-31 18:51 rev_art We've got you covered when we're needed
2023-07-31 18:52 jaydeehoodoo We had a great time with Art, James and ConjureMan!
2023-07-31 18:54 rev_art Three nights of great shows, all together. What's up with TWTP&TC tomorrow?
2023-07-31 18:54 trollt Lammas / Lughnasadh
2023-07-31 18:54 trollt The Final Spoke in the Wheel of the Year.
2023-07-31 18:55 trollt (they've done all the other 7)
2023-07-31 18:57 rev_art Welcome @dr-sweets!
2023-07-31 18:58 dr-sweets hello
2023-07-31 18:59 jaydeehoodoo Hello @dr-sweets
2023-07-31 18:59 dr-sweets hello Jaydee
2023-07-31 19:01 reverendjames Did anyone here arts intro or just mine?
2023-07-31 19:01 rev_art Welcome @phyllismargretgabor!
2023-07-31 19:02 phyllismargretgabor i didn't hear any intro:/ i was late listening to the oldest lmhrh (is that right) on here! it's wild!!
2023-07-31 19:02 phyllismargretgabor hi @rev_art I'm excited for tonight's show
2023-07-31 19:03 rev_art hopefully, lol
2023-07-31 19:03 trollt Hi everyone (again)!
2023-07-31 19:03 jaydeehoodoo I hear Jamesโs intro
2023-07-31 19:03 docmurphy1 Hi! Canโt type tonight, have to hold the phone, headset issues
2023-07-31 19:03 trollt Now listening via browser as usual.
2023-07-31 19:03 trollt Reverend Art?!
2023-07-31 19:04 phyllismargretgabor isn't mercury about to go retrograde?? ha
2023-07-31 19:10 trollt What's the best way to resolve generational rite-tech-incompatibilities?
2023-07-31 19:11 phyllismargretgabor how cool @docmurphy1 congratulations!
2023-07-31 19:13 trollt C.A.M.P.
2023-07-31 19:14 trollt cultural history - This is a basis from which to cover tonight's topic.
2023-07-31 19:15 trollt I.e. what 'culture' means to this organization and its coverage.
2023-07-31 19:15 trollt Are there Neo-Pagans there?
2023-07-31 19:16 trollt Is it a bedrock of Pagan history?
2023-07-31 19:16 phyllismargretgabor so fucking cool!!
2023-07-31 19:16 trollt What are the primary geographic touchpoints of that movement? Time? Location?
2023-07-31 19:17 trollt Doc Murphy is not doing typing tonight.
2023-07-31 19:19 trollt Culture is what human beings learn and pass on.
2023-07-31 19:19 trollt More than one generation.
2023-07-31 19:23 phyllismargretgabor hahaha it does!!
2023-07-31 19:23 trollt What can people do to be part of her project?
2023-07-31 19:24 trollt Western participants want identity delineation so they can figure out who to convert and to what.
2023-07-31 19:28 trollt How and to where should we send our money?
2023-07-31 19:29 trollt Is there a website?
2023-07-31 19:29 trollt Business card?
2023-07-31 19:29 trollt Is Doc Murphy the contact person for it?
2023-07-31 19:29 phyllismargretgabor business card lol
2023-07-31 19:31 trollt (?) Cultural Anthropology Magical Practices? Someone can expand it for us? (?)
2023-07-31 19:32 reverendjames Honestly I missed the it past the first two words...
2023-07-31 19:32 trollt Thank you!
2023-07-31 19:33 trollt How is magic learned? Is systemized magic still magic?
2023-07-31 19:34 trollt Does teaching it rob it of its power?
2023-07-31 19:34 trollt Do you have to pass it on in a particular way, like from male to female and female to male?
2023-07-31 19:35 phyllismargretgabor is culture just preservation?
2023-07-31 19:36 trollt Do magical systems downplay improvisation and authenticity?
2023-07-31 19:36 trollt When magic is systematized and rigidified does it become religion?
2023-07-31 19:37 trollt Does magic actually take place between cultures, with half-language, stolen symbols, and appropriated significances so as to employ to a leveraged purpose?
2023-07-31 19:38 trollt Does the diversity of culture lead us to overlook what magic is in some cultures? Might we misidentify magic and subsume it into something our culture likes or what makes social use of it rather than what individuals do egotistically?
2023-07-31 19:40 trollt Does the relationship between magic and science compromise each's apprehension of the other? Was Arthur C. Clarke wrong when he said what he did about 'sufficiently complex technology'? Was he enthralled to people like Lynn Thorndike, too wrapped up in scientific deconstructionism and not a practitioner?
2023-07-31 19:43 trollt Is asemic or anti-linguistic symbolism and glossolalia more magical than specialty magical languages like Latin or Hebrew or Sanskrit? Are amulets better personalized than subsumed to conventional cultural knowledge?
2023-07-31 19:45 trollt Does the mechanism of things like "Sigil Magic" reducing language away from the practical amulet-making display something important about its cultural aspects?
2023-07-31 19:50 trollt Does what they call "high magic(k)" really represent a classist hoity-toity bias that degradation of elitist appropriators hoping to seize the attention of future generations?
2023-07-31 19:51 trollt Is ALL magic based on the Doctrine of Signatures? Or is that another cultural bias based on religious dogma?
2023-07-31 19:53 phyllismargretgabor control
2023-07-31 19:53 trollt Is it?
2023-07-31 19:53 trollt Except possibly, that magic is less under the control of the dominant culture.
2023-07-31 19:55 trollt There are diverse references to *types* of magic; are these real or cultural biases? Is "sorcery" (unlicensed magic) different than non-systematized pirated and stolen 'wild west' style of magic?
2023-07-31 19:56 trollt What is it with these "Gods of Magic" and "Saint of Occultism"? Should we be worshipping Mercury and Thoth to get right with Magic? Isn't it a cognate for Persian priestcraft?
2023-07-31 19:57 trollt If religion and magic are identical, are there Priests of Magic?
2023-07-31 19:59 trollt Understanding, ... and try to profit from it (like casting spells?).
2023-07-31 19:59 trollt I can totally get behind the misappropriation notion being about REPRESENTATION.
2023-07-31 20:00 trollt Why do cultures clash about religion and magic, and why do they consider them to be different?
2023-07-31 20:03 jaydeehoodoo Sorry I lost electric for a min, but I am back up and running
2023-07-31 20:03 phyllismargretgabor welcome back
2023-07-31 20:04 trollt Is there something to the notion that 'the other people's magic is more powerful"?
2023-07-31 20:05 trollt We've heard about it many times. The Muslims talking about the Jewish sorcerer who ensorcelled Muhammad.
2023-07-31 20:05 phyllismargretgabor do the majority of cultural practices stem from where the cultures themselves originated?
2023-07-31 20:05 trollt The folks from across town or in the next state have more powerful magic.
2023-07-31 20:06 rev_art Hello @catherine-yronwode !
2023-07-31 20:07 trollt Is there a way to measure how magical a thing is?
2023-07-31 20:08 trollt IS old magical helpful or valuable?
2023-07-31 20:08 trollt magical/magic
2023-07-31 20:08 phyllismargretgabor man it's just like American gods lol
2023-07-31 20:08 trollt Isn't that just like religious antiquity and its importance is identified as "ancient"?
2023-07-31 20:08 catherine-yronwode With the advent of "anthropology" and "museum collections," the opportunities for cultural insensitivity and misappropriation can increase, but so can "holding space" for oppressed cultures on the brink of extinction (e.g. recordings of Native American speakers being used to re-create survivors who were stripped of cultural continuity).
2023-07-31 20:10 catherine-yronwode re-create = re-inform
2023-07-31 20:10 trollt They don't call it that.
2023-07-31 20:11 trollt They call it The Language of the Angels etc., yes.
2023-07-31 20:11 trollt How much is essential to magic as compared to culture? What are the actual rudiments of magic's composition?
2023-07-31 20:12 trollt Powerful / in experience. Power to effect change may be different.
2023-07-31 20:14 trollt Is there any way to create a kind of Ur-magic which doesn't have any cultural biases?
2023-07-31 20:16 trollt Sigil Magic -- Austin Osman Spare
2023-07-31 20:16 trollt It requires understanding it in that context.
2023-07-31 20:16 trollt His notion of it.
2023-07-31 20:17 trollt It removes vowels, it makes it non-language.
2023-07-31 20:18 trollt He was your BOYFRIEND? Can you do a show on him sometime?
2023-07-31 20:18 trollt LOL
2023-07-31 20:19 trollt Oh ok.
2023-07-31 20:19 trollt Sir Neville Drury
2023-07-31 20:19 trollt Rosalee Norton and Austin Osman Spare
2023-07-31 20:19 reverendjames 10 min remaining in the show, 8 minutes till end music.
2023-07-31 20:20 trollt LOL
2023-07-31 20:21 trollt Just a little.
2023-07-31 20:21 trollt Yes!
2023-07-31 20:21 trollt Literati!
2023-07-31 20:21 trollt HIGH!
2023-07-31 20:22 trollt Eurocentrism~!
2023-07-31 20:22 trollt Fascinated enough to try to appropriate them!
2023-07-31 20:22 trollt Yes!
2023-07-31 20:23 trollt Getting attention of those around them, like Anton LaVey.
2023-07-31 20:23 trollt The divide: shamanism, ceremonialism
2023-07-31 20:24 reverendjames 5 minutes remain in the show, 3 minutes till end music.
2023-07-31 20:25 trollt Are you still there?! LOL
2023-07-31 20:26 trollt Oh my goodness.
2023-07-31 20:26 trollt There you go!
2023-07-31 20:27 phyllismargretgabor LOL
2023-07-31 20:28 trollt Thanks for your endurance!
2023-07-31 20:28 docmurphy1 Thank you all!
2023-07-31 20:28 phyllismargretgabor what a freaking fun show!
2023-07-31 20:28 phyllismargretgabor despite the hiccups
2023-07-31 20:29 jaydeehoodoo Good night!!
2023-07-31 20:29 reverendjames 5
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2023-07-31 20:29 reverendjames 3
2023-07-31 20:29 reverendjames 2
2023-07-31 20:30 reverendjames 1
2023-07-31 20:30 phyllismargretgabor thank you @docmurphy1!
2023-07-31 20:30 rev_art This was "The night of Gremlins" LOL
2023-07-31 20:30 trollt Grabbing chatlog
2023-07-31 20:30 rev_art @trollt and @catherine-yronwode thank you both SO much!
2023-07-31 20:30 dr-sweets whereโs the....>poinf!<
2023-07-31 20:30 phyllismargretgabor it gave the show heart lol
2023-07-31 20:31 lmcradionetwork Time to collect the chat-isms!
2023-07-31 20:31 phyllismargretgabor it was an awesome show and I'm already ready for part 2...and 3 and whatever lol thanks guys have a great night
2023-07-31 20:31 rev_art @phyllismargretgabor you never know what's going to happen once the show goes live, lol
2023-07-31 20:32 rev_art Have a wonderful night everyone! Much love and many blessings to you all!
2023-07-31 20:33 lmcradionetwork Audio is in processing @dr-sweets!
2023-07-31 20:33 trollt Nightee night!
2023-07-31 20:33 dr-sweets ok
2023-07-31 20:33 rev_art G'nite @trollt and thank you again!
2023-07-31 20:35 lmcradionetwork Transcript collected!
2023-07-31 20:36 rev_art Fantastic!
2023-07-31 20:36 rev_art Good night everyone, will see you next week!
