HRCC: Hoodoo Rootwork Correspondence Course Questions and Answers

notnoobnotexpert · Unread post by **notnoobnotexpert** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:57 pm

Thank you for your detailed response, Mrs. Cat! I understand your feelings on the matter. It's something I have to think about deeply as far as my own views go.

You're right, there's plenty here to study anonymously, but there's much to be said from learning closely with experts and in a group setting. I do have reasons for my views, but maybe the benefits are more important here. We'll see. Thank you again for taking the time out to clarify things.

Edit: And just to be clear, I have no problem revealing my legal name to you or LM employees. It's just mostly a caution over Internet communications with a mass of people I don't know, some of which I've read on here who have access to the course group but were just "surfers," etc.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:37 pm

Only students of the Course have access to the Yahoo student group website. You are not required to reveal your name here on the Lucky Mojo Forum.

notnoobnotexpert · Unread post by **notnoobnotexpert** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:20 pm

Thank you, Mama Micki!

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:31 pm

notnoobnotexpert,

When you wrote about "a mass of people I don't know, some of which I've read on here who have access to the course group but were just "surfers," etc." you were gravely misinformed.

You are posting at the Lucky Mojo Forum, a company-owned php-bb forum that is open to course members, non-course member practitioners, LMCCo shop customers, AIRR reading clients, and random internet "surfers."

My personal Hoodoo Rootwork Correspondence Course discussion group is only open to course members, all of whom are known to one another and NONE of whom are "just 'surfers'"

Thanks for understanding.

If you are interested in my course, then the next time you order any of the required materials, just add a note in the message area saying that you wish to be marked as a "prospective student." There is no obligation to become a student, but if you mention that, then any items you order from my shop will be check-marked as meeting the course requirements for materials.

Hoodoo Rootwork Correspondence Course by catherine yronwode

The Hoodoo Rootwork Correspondence Course by Catherine Yronwode:

The cost is $2.00 per lesson: $104.00 for 52 lessons in the form of a 432-page hardcover clothbound book. Each book is personally inscribed with the student's name and signed by catherine yronwode. You must meet certain requirements as a customer and you must be interviewed by cat before being able to purchase this course book.

BOO-XCC-HRCC
Hoodoo Rootwork Correspondence Course by catherine yronwode
$104.00

You can read the entire list of required purchases, both books and spiritual supplies, here:

https://luckymojo.com/mojocourse.html

notnoobnotexpert · Unread post by **notnoobnotexpert** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:33 pm

Thank you, Mrs. Cat! These responses have really cleared up the major questions I had about the course.

DeborahHarris · Unread post by **DeborahHarris** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:41 pm

I would like to eventually take the HRCC but have a concern.

In her article Catherine asks, "Why do i require these purchases? Simple: This is the only way i can know that you have seen, handled, and worked with the kinds of spiritual supplies i will be describing in the course."

I have no problem with that. The problem is, I have not had occasion to "work" with Goofer dust at any point in time since practicing hoodoo. So what do I do, just order it anyway and be required to "hex" someone that I don't like just to say that I have used it?

Don't misunderstand. I am not trying to be humorous or sarcastic. I am serious about this and want to know/learn/understand it all. Thank you.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:48 pm

Deborah Harris,

The phrasing i chose was "seen, handled, and worked with the kinds of spiritual supplies i will be describing in the course." The wording was not "seen, handled and worked with each of the spiritual supplies," but rather "seen, handled, and worked with the kinds of spiritual supplies."

Goofer Dust is a member of several sets or "kinds" of spiritual supplies:

It is a mineral-herbal-zoological blend.

It is a cursing product.

It is a powder.

It is a variable-recipe formula.

You will definitely need to see and handle it in all of those contexts (and more) in order to understand hoodoo practice.

Whether or not you choose to use it will be your choice.

Unread post by **Piseog** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:23 pm

Hi everyone,

This is a very helpful thread.

I also am doing the reading, the shopping, and the practicing getting ready to request to be a student. I also appreciate the clarification of the requirements, because like many here, it's new to me too.

What I love is the ways thinking of learning rootworking is making me think. In anticipation of the homework to collect and dry an herb used in conjure, even though I have about a dozen of them growing in my yard, I wanted the challenge of identifying and collecting it in the wild. So I was scanning the roadsides for Joe Pye weed (gravel root), because it's one of the first wild plants I ever learned the name of, but never knew its uses for money and steady work (which I just learned studying HHRM, and is very relevant right now. Doing this, the whole natural world looked different to me, full of seemingly ordinary plants that are also magic, here to help us. I _saw_ the plants I usually just drive by: chicory, sweet pea vine, wild lily, bindweed, wild grapevine.... Everything was a little more alive and present to me, and rootworking is a direct way to that presence.

I had the same hesitation as others here about negative working. No ethical objections against it, just very few occasions to practice it, and like keeping it that way. Miss Cat, your breakdown of the components of Goofer Dust--it's theoretical structure, made my head explode in a happy way, to know that the point wasn't a quick excursion into the dark side, but that there's theory under all of this, structured knowledge, as well as legend and custom.

But I had so much fun looking through the catalog, considering which negative products I'd consider using, and most of all, what I was drawn to. Hotfooting: could be useful. Domination, zzzzz. Goofer Dust--nice, traditional, classic, the Doric column or little black dress of hoodoo. But ooooh, Double Cross Oil! Could I ever have fun with that!! Yes!!!! So that's what my darker self is like! I had no idea! So revealing, just that little browse alone.

The very best part about learning new things is that what there is to learn is so much larger and more unpredictable sometimes than the basic lesson itself. And I am really looking forward to being able to learn more.

Cheers,

-Piseog

Unread post by **wraithklewn** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:33 pm

I have a question about hw #7. if i can do that here that is

can we use the 1 dram round bottles that you sell on the site? or does it have to be only in the 1/2 oz bottles?

DeborahHarris · Unread post by **DeborahHarris** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:57 pm

Okay. Got it. Thank you Miss Cat. I have a few more items to order even though I have some of them (having ordered from LM since the summer of 2010) I should be ready to take the course by September.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:12 pm

You will surely enjoy the experience and value what you learn.

yoragoddess · Unread post by **yoragoddess** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:53 pm

Hello, I have been wanting to become a student since I found about the correspondence course almost two years ago. In the meantime I have made several orders from lucky mojo.

Do these items qualify and is there a way to know if I have ordered all the items I need? I think I am missing one or two.

Thank you in advance

Unread post by **MedhaDevi** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:56 pm

Hi,

I'm trying to decide which products to purchase to meet the requirements for the course. In reading some of Ms. Yronwode's FAQs I noticed that she mentions that it's important to use traditional paraphernalia of rootwork in the context of the course. Therefore, it isn't acceptable to add things like fluorite and amethyst to a mojo, but loadstones are permissible, as they have historically been tools of conjure.

My question regards the degree to which this pertains to the oils, powders, and bath crystals. Is it okay to purchase, for example, the Santa Muerte oil for love, or would it be better to start off with a more traditional title such as Follow Me and leave the others for use outside of the course?

Thanks,
Rowan

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:25 am

yoragoddess

We keep a list of all purchases made by our customers, going back to 1998.

If you cannot remember everything you have purchased over the years, i suggest that you EMAIL the shop and ask for a list of all your previous purchases to be emailed back to you.

When you receive the emailed list, you can compare it to the list of required purchases at http://luckymojo.com/mojocourse.html -- then buy any products you may be missing.

Once you have determined that your purchases do meet the requirements, you can TELEPHONE the shop and ask for an appointment to be set up for a course interview call. The person taking the call will probably either put you on hold or arrange to call you back after checking your purchase list for the requirements. Once scheduled, the course call will take from 1/2 hour to 1 hour.

I look forward to talking to you!

=============================

MedhaDevi / Rowan,

Santisima Muerte Oil is not a hoodoo oil, thus it is not a qualifying oil for the Hoodoo Rootwork Correspondence Course.

I don't understand why you would consider studying conjure practices with me if your very first post here in the Lucky Mojo Forum is to question how far afield you can digress from conjure, which is the only topic i am teaching.

Also, just to make it clear, i do not accept as a student every person who purchases a certain list of products from me. In particular, i don't feel in any way obligated to accept students who are obviously uninterested in African American conjure and culture and would rather be studying something else.

I suggest that it is actually in your best interest to study two other forms of magical practice -- gemstone magic and Mexican Folk-Catholic magic -- with two other teachers.

I am not the teacher you seek and the Hoodoo Rootwork Correspondence Course is not the course of study you are looking for.

Good luck!

yoragoddess · Unread post by **yoragoddess** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:56 pm

Ok great,thank you Catherine. I look forward to talking to you as well

Unread post by **MedhaDevi** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:16 pm

Ms. Yronwode,

Wow. I'm sorry, I certainly didn't mean to upset you and I definitely wasn't trying to see how far afield I could digress from conjure. I was simply asking a question to make sure I understood what you were looking for. I'm not particularly interested in studying gemstone magic or in using them in my conjure practice, I was merely using that as an example to clarify my question. And as far as that being my first post - well, I thought it would be more polite to ask it on a public forum than to take up space in your mailbox with an email.
I fully understand and value the emphasis on tradition and traditional methods, which I why I would like to take your course (something about which we have previously spoken on the phone, actually), but the people I have learned from so far have been influenced by a wide array of other practices, so I was unclear about whether or not St. Michael, for example, would have been a part of traditional rootwork (as two of my teachers have been strong advocates of St. Michael and various products bearing his name). As I said, I wasn't trying to digress from what you are teaching, but if I haven't learned it yet how can I be faulted for not knowing what is traditional and what is not? Is it not better that I ask and make sure I am doing what is correct, rather than assuming and being wrong?

Once more, I'm sorry if I irritated or offended you.
Rowan

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:37 pm

MedhaDevi / Rowan --

I am not offended. I am a blunt speaker and i speak from years of experience.

You mentioned Saint Michael. That's a Jewish archangel who was appropriated by the Catholics as a Catholic saint. Obviously Saint Michael is not "a part of traditional rootwork" among those Black Americans who are not Catholics, and, as it happens, few black Americans (about 5%, according to the Pew Research Center's Forum on Religion & Public Life) are Catholics. Check out the demographics here:

http://www.blackdemographics.com/religion.html

That being the case, you will find, as i have, that most of the people purporting to use or teach conjure who call upon Catholic saints are White or Latino Americans. There definitely are black American Catholics -- but being a Catholic is not the most common religion associated with hoodoo.

I am teaching the hoodoo and conjure work of those who taught it to me, and by far the most of them were black American Protestants.

You can read more about hoodoo and various religions in this Forum thread:

Hoodoo & Religion: Voodoo Wicca Santeria Witchcraft Atheism
hoodoo-&-religion-voodoo-wicca-santeria ... 10231.html

Unread post by **MedhaDevi** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:45 pm

catherineyronwode wrote:MedhaDevi / Rowan --

I am not offended. I am a blunt speaker and i speak from years of experience.

You mentioned Saint Michael. That's a Jewish archangel who was appropriated by the Catholics as a Catholic saint. Obviously Saint Michael is not "a part of traditional rootwork" among those Black Americans who are not Catholics, and, as it happens, few black Americans (about 5%, according to the Pew Research Center's Forum on Religion & Public Life) are Catholics. Check out the demographics here:

http://www.blackdemographics.com/religion.html

That being the case, you will find, as i have, that most of the people purporting to use or teach conjure who call upon Catholic saints are White or Latino Americans.

Ms. Yronwode,

Actually, I read you post about the percentage of African American Catholics just last night. I'm sorry I took your post so personally, I guess it just seemed a bit vicious without the presence of tone/inflection/body language. I'll try not to be so sensitive in the future.
I was assuming that the inclusion of Catholic saints wasn't a part of traditional Hoodoo, but (specifically with St. Michael and the other Archangels) I wasn't certain. I am still very interested in taking the course and hope that, when the time comes, you will still consider taking me on as a student. I would like to call your shop and arrange a time to speak with you over the phone (although the time difference is a bit of a problem, since I live in Guam).

Thank you for your responses,
Rowan

Unread post by **Laila** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:04 am

Piseog, I was touched when you said that wild plants you have always just passed by now have special meaning and relevance to you. I am having a similar experience.

Best, Laila

Unread post by **MedhaDevi** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:08 am

Just realized I typed, "viscous", instead of, "vicious". One of these days I'll get with the proof-reading program.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:32 am

MedhaDevi wrote:Just realized I typed, "viscous", instead of, "vicious". One of these days I'll get with the proof-reading program.

I corrected your post. If you wish to edit or make corrections to your posts, just use the "edit" button.

Unread post by **MedhaDevi** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:08 pm

Oh, thanks! I'm still learning my way around the forum.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:27 pm

I feel more viscous than vicious, if the truth be known.

Unread post by **MedhaDevi** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:37 pm

Haha! Well if California is anything like Guam that's because of the heat. I can barely move, let alone attack anything.

heartexalted · Unread post by **heartexalted** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:55 pm

I was confused about the part of the requirements regarding the oils, powders, crystals, and incenses. The correspondence course page says:
4 Lucky Mojo hoodoo conjure oils,
one each for love, money, protection, and negative work
2 Lucky Mojo self-lighting incense powders,
one for attracting and one for repelling or harming
2 Lucky Mojo sachet powders,
one for attracting and one for repelling or harming
2 Lucky Mojo bath crystals,
one for uncrossing and one for attracting money or love

...but earlier in the thread, it was stated that these ten items should cover the nine conditions of hoodoo: love, protection, court cases, etc. As such, I was wondering, should I go with what it said on the correspondence course page, what Ms. Cat said earlier in the thread about the nine conditions, or can I just go either way?

I'm excited to start collecting these products, even the ones that I wouldn't normally buy for my own purposes. I have a growing interest in the learning for its own sake.

unole33b8y · Unread post by **unole33b8y** » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:11 pm

Greetings Cat,

I am interested in taking the course but I wanted to make sure I obtained clarity on a question first.
I understand that the course is based in southern black christianity. Which I have no problem with, for the purpose of learning the
tradition you are teaching. I am also aware your course is open to people of all religions, based on your FAQ section.

While I am black/native American and was raised in the south and was brought up in Christian theology, along with native traditions, and magic, I no longer incorporate Christianity into my practice, and haven't in 17 years.

I am very interested in this course and I purchased your book on herb magic years ago.

Do you expect your students to pray to or work with the Christian God or Jesus?

Do you expect them to work with the bible?

Thank you for your time

sincerely

L.D.

unole33b8y · Unread post by **unole33b8y** » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:41 pm

Thank you for your time.
Your answer and clarity is really appreciated.

I enjoy shopping from your store, and your articles.

Thank you again.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:58 pm

unole33b8y / L. D. --

The answers to your questions are "yes" and "yes."

If i was teaching the magic of India, i would certainly expect my students to learn about and work with Hindu deities. If i was teaching my students ancient Egyptian magic, i would expect them to be comfortable offering prayers to Kemetic deities. Your personal path may have led you in a different direction, but this is the folk magic of Christian (generally Protestant) Black Americans who work with the Bible. To teach otherwise would be to teach a different course, i am afraid.

SimoneWoodward · Unread post by **SimoneWoodward** » Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:22 am

This has been such a helpful thread! I'm planning on making my four orders over the next four months. While I am not qualified to give advice, I printed out both the requirements list on the correspondence course and the suggestion made earlier in the thread to try and cross-reference the two. If you just follow what's written there and then during the consultation after four months you find there's one or two things missing, then you will find out what they are and order them. Just relax and let it happen how it's going to happen. Trying to force it never makes anything work better, it will either break what you're trying to force or the thing you're trying to force will break you.

I was wondering to myself about the court case oil and thinking I'd never need that - and just got a phone call from a friend who has to go to court out of the blue! Talk about never say never....now I know the focus of my first order.

Unread post by **Luck of the Irish** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:07 am

I have a question: I'm interested in signing up for the course (several friends and colleagues raved about it) and I kind of got super excited about it and ordered all of the materials in 2 orders over two months. Then life got in the way and I forgot to order during month three. It is now month four and I've ordered extra materials I need, for a total of 3 orders. I've ordered everything required already, so can I place another order this month and have that count as 4 orders in 4 months, or do I need to wait until next month to place my final order and then order the course/petition for an interview? I'm not so good at the waiting, but I know that this is worth it. Either way, I'm very much looking forward to being considered.
Thanks!
-Seamus

kittynmoon · Unread post by **kittynmoon** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:27 am

I forgot to put my name and student ID number on my request to join the yahoo group. How do I message the group wtih the info now that I have already requested to join the group?

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:27 am

You messaged me via Facebook and i took care of it!

Unread post by **Odessa** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:50 pm

Is there anyone in particular to ask for at LM to check if I now meet the requirements for the course to request an interview? Or just call the shop and tell them I am trying to meet the course requirements and give them my customer ID information ?

Unread post by **LongIslandConjure** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:10 am

Hey Odessa, exactly right call the shop and they will look up you purchases in the database and let you know if you have met the requirements. I made that call a couple of weeks ago. As always the Lucky Mojo staff was super helpful.

Unread post by **Odessa** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:39 am

I want to add one little comment on the purchases for the classes. I just had my invoices checked and found out that I was short one herb and made a small mistake on the 1/2 oz bottle order. I found out that the bottle should be the square one, not the round one. Which makes sense now since its for an oil homework project! Make sure to order the right bottle !

Now just waiting on the last 2 items to call back for an interview. In the mean time back to reading forum posts and taking notes..

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:26 pm

Yes, Odessa, you can call the shop and they will help you with that.

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:20 pm

Congrats Odessa...so close!

Unread post by **Odessa** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:37 pm

Joseph, I did call the shop and they were so helpful with checking my invoices. Looks like I'm on track so far.

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:13 am

That is great news! Upward and onward!

Unread post by **nutmeg** » Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:55 pm

I am so excited

...just placed my last order to get my required items to apply for Correspondence Course. I do have a question about the HOODOO HERB AND ROOT MAGIC book. I puchased my copy from Amazon years ago. I think I can get proof from my online account records. If i am able to show i have already purchased, do i need to prchase again with the correspondence?

When i order my correspondence materials can I put that "I agree to all terms" in the message area or should i send a seperate emai to express my interest and acceptance of terms?

Thanks

NUTMEG (aka..TuVara).

Unread post by **nutmeg** » Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:32 pm

I expanded the posts and have found the answers to my questions. Will be anxiously waiting for my order and talk with Miss Cat.

Spending my time reading all Miss Cat online materials, listening to archived LM Hoodoo Rootwork hour shows and milling around the forum

Unread post by **Doctor Hob** » Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:26 pm

Once you've met the materials requirement, call the shop to schedule your interview with Miss cat. I believe she will go over the terms, and clear you to order your course book during the interview.

If you already have a copy of the green book, then you're good to go.

Enjoy the course.

Unread post by **CoastsideConjure** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:51 pm

Miss Cat? When is the best time to reach you to speak to you about taking your course? I think I am long over due to take it

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:10 pm

Love Potion No9,

Just call the shop and they will look up your purchase history in the database and let you know if you have met the requirements. Then they will schedule an appointment for us to have a 30 - 45 minute conversation about the course.These appointments usually atke place around 4:00 PM, after i finish my tarot card readings for the day.

I look forward to talking with you.

Unread post by **CoastsideConjure** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:51 pm

Thanks Cat! It was great to see you at the shop today and I look forward to our interview tomorrow

I can't wait to be a student of yours

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:19 pm

It was nice to see you too, and to meet your friend.Talk to you tomorrow.

Unread post by **CoastsideConjure** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:53 pm

WooHoo!!! Just got done with my interview with Miss Cat

Who has 2 thumbs and has just became her student?.... This Chick! lol *cheesy I know but I couldnt help myself*

clarissacain8 · Unread post by **clarissacain8** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:07 pm

Hey I am new here. Don't know much about and trying to learn something.

clarissacain8 · Unread post by **clarissacain8** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:11 pm

How can I join this course through yahoo? Help!!!

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:34 pm

clarissacain8 -- The HRCC Yahoo group is only for students of my Hoodoo Rootwork Correspondence Course. If you are a student, you will find the group URL on page 16 of your course book. When you apply, give your real full name and student ID#. I only admit people to the Yahoo group if they provide their name and student number.

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:29 pm

The Yahoo Group is great for student discussion. Very valuable service.

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:29 pm

clarissacain8: Welcome! Might I suggest starting here, the best place to start: http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodoo.html

Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:32 pm

Stacia, questions about the course material are why we have an HRCourse Yahoo Group. See page 16 of your course book -- and see you there!

Miss Michaele

Unread post by **Odessa** » Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:26 pm

Just got my course book and I can't put it down! It's truly amazing! Had a little issue with Yahoo Groups but I think the request went through. ( side note.. I correctly predicted my student # before I got my book ) Very excited to be a proud student of the course!

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:32 pm

I am so glad you like the course book! If you have any trouble with yahoo groups, contact nagasva thtough Facebook or here. Take your time, read the book twice -- and turn in your homework.

Little Owl · Unread post by **Little Owl** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:25 pm

One of the required purchases is a conjure oil for negative work. Is that a crossing oil?

Unread post by **Odessa** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:00 pm

Little Owl, that is what I bought for my negative oil. Let me tell ya, the Crossing Oil is a wicked looking mixture!!! If in doubt you can always call the shop and they will help you with your course requirements. They also check over your invoices and let you know you have it all before the interview part.

Little Owl · Unread post by **Little Owl** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:07 pm

Thank you Odessa.

Igraine62 · Unread post by **Igraine62** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:05 am

Hello,

I would like to enroll in the course and I want to finish it and do all the homeworks.

( so you see I have read this thread

)

My problem is: I am a Europian and I have no idea how to meet an Afro-American native here and do homework 2

Can anyone help me please? Has anyone an idea how to do this?

I would really appreciate your advice

Igraine

Unread post by **Ms Valerie** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:20 pm

I just signed up for the correspondence course today. I'm so excited and can't wait to get started!
Thank You Cat

It was so good to talk with you.

Valerie