Famous Politicians and Celebrities Who Practice Hoodoo

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:42 pm

Here's a news item for which i was briefly interviewed, for the record:

The Washington Times

McCain channeling all his luck toward 2008 race

By Joseph Curl

April 16, 2008

United Press International Sen. John McCain, the likely
Republican nominee, carries a lucky penny, nickel and
quarter, among other trinkets. He might have accrued a lucky
dime on the campaign trail in January, were it not heads
down.

Don't try to pass a salt shaker to John McCain. He won't
take it from your hand because it's bad luck.

The Arizona senator also won't throw a hat on a bed it
means death will soon visit the household but he regularly
carries 31 cents in lucky change in his pocket.

Now the presumptive Republican presidential nominee has
converted his staff to his famously superstitious ways.
Whenever anyone says something optimistic especially about
this fall's general election a slew of staffers join him
in knocking on wood.

"That's an ugly habit I've picked up myself," Brooke
Buchanan, the senator's national press secretary, said with
a laugh. "We were in Kansas City ... and someone mentioned
winning in November, and three of us knocked on wood. We
don't want to jinx anything. We're all very superstitious
people."

Top adviser Mark Salter also has been influenced.

"I grew a beard in 2000 and didn't shave until the campaign
was over, and I did it this time, too. That's my little
superstition. I probably won't shave it until November," he
said, adding that he's not sure if Mr. McCain "considers it
lucky, or if he considers it an eyesore."

Mr. McCain has dozens of superstitions and rituals, many
stemming from his days as a Navy fighter pilot, a
notoriously superstitious bunch. He carries a lucky feather,
a lucky compass and a lucky penny not to mention a lucky
nickel and a lucky quarter.

"He had so many of them that we had to cut down. It was like
a change purse in his pocket," Miss Buchanan said, laughing.

Joseph W. McQuaid, publisher of the Union Leader newspaper
of Manchester, N.H., gave Mr. McCain a lucky penny he'd
found (heads up, of course) just before Mr. McCain won the
New Hampshire primary, on Jan. 8.

Mr. McCain also pocketed a nickel he found outside his hotel
in Columbia, S.C., just before that state's primary his
second primary win.

As for the quarter, "I think he just found that on the
ground," Miss Buchanan said. "It's always what he finds,
heads up."

Still, it's what she called "a lucky drummer boy quarter"
a 1976 bicentennial commemorative quarter.

He doesn't have a dime a lucky one, that is but he
almost picked up one in January. When he went to the
Republican debate at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library,
Mr. McCain noticed a shiny dime on the stage floor. He
stooped for a closer look, but it was tails up rejected.

"The Irish have a thing about heads and tails," said
Catherine Yronwode, co-founder of the Lucky Mojo Curio Co.
and an authority on talismans. "People of Irish descent
think that if a coin is heads up, it's lucky; if it's tails
up, leave it, let the poor have it."

Irish, indeed. On St. Patrick's Day in Chicago, "this guy
had a lucky four-leaf clover that was laminated," Miss
Buchanan said. "He pulled it out of his pocket and told the
senator it had brought him good luck, and now the senator
carries it around in his wallet."

"Am I superstitious? I'm that," Mr. McCain said. "But I
don't think I'm alone there."

Especially among his staff.

"I've always been superstitious as well, like, I hate the
number 13," Miss Buchanan said.

Oddly, the campaign's headquarters is on the 13th floor of a
high rise in the Crystal City neighborhood of Arlington,
even though the elevator button says "M."

"Why did you have to bring that up? It is the M floor, the M
floor, for McCain!" Miss Buchanan said.

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Unread post by KM » Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:48 pm

catherine yronwode,

too cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and i have to respect him for being honest

when i tell people i am superstitious it does not go over well right away

i have noticed people are ashamed of their superstitions but then when i cop to it they do too

lol i won't even pick up a tails up in my own driveway

kristi marcus

#1216

Unread post by **nagasiva** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:07 pm

sri catyananda reflected:
# The Washington Times
# McCain channeling all his luck toward 2008 race
# By Joseph Curl
# April 16, 2008

<snip>

# ...said
# Catherine Yronwode, co-founder of the Lucky Mojo Curio Co.
# and an authority on talismans....

these journalilsts never get *anything* exactly right, do they?
you were *the* founder of the Lucky Mojo Curio Co. feh.

I was raised to distrust politicians and religious, and
after all i have seen in the past 2-3 years i must now
add journalists (and the occasional scientist) to this
unreliable batch. ah well, it just adds fuel to the
adage that you can't trust everything you read.

nagasiva (#000, G)

(Thanks for noticing. I did tell him "co-owner" and he did repeat it back. Such is life... --cat)

Unread post by **nagasiva** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:08 pm

"KM" <kmarcus@nycap.rr.com.:
# too cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and i have to respect him for being honest

yes, me too.

# when i tell people i am superstitious it does not go over
# well right away

that makes sense. it is a dismissive term as i have
encountered it and, self-applied, tends to be
self-debasing, or at least admitting of a weakness.
perhaps today's usage includes it as a badge in the same
way that so many other terms have been turned around
from criticisms to badges of honor.

# i have noticed people are ashamed of their
# superstitions

the rationalists i have known have in general used
the term 'superstitions' to encompass a very broad
range of beliefs and cultural elements -- whatever
they deemed foolish, backward, or unreasonable. it
is news to me that someone describes themselves as
'having superstitions' though i welcome this change
away from dualistic bias.

# but then when i cop to it they do too
# lol i won't even pick up a tails up in my own driveway

I wonder where the term originated and who first used
it to describe who. it reminds me of old, biased
anthropological data brought forward by people who saw
societies as "evolving" and "developing" in some kind
of accruing progress. I think i made my own progress by
seeing past these views, understanding that it is
extremely difficult to compare societies/cultures in
any meaningful way, and that loaded language like
'superstition' tells us more about the speaker
than it does about the person being described.

nagasiva (#000, G)

Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:52 pm

--- In hrcourse@yahoogroups.com, nagasiva <nagasiva@...> wrote:
> >
> "KM" <kmarcus@...:

> # when i tell people i am superstitious it does not go over
> # well right away
>
> that makes sense. it is a dismissive term as i have
> encountered it and, self-applied, tends to be
> self-debasing,

I have a line all prepared for such situations: "Superstition is the
oldest of the healing arts." After all, astrology became astronomy;
alchemy led to chemistry. Aristotle believed some odd things about
physics, which is now coming around to the idea that there might be
forces in the universe that will NEVER be explained by the
materialist/reductionist model.

Michaele Maurer
#361

MissMarisa · Unread post by **MissMarisa** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:42 pm

This is a great photo of Barack Obama's good luck charms.

Amongst the things that Barack Obama carries for good luck in this picture are

* a bracelet belonging to a soldier deployed in Iraq,

* a gambler's lucky chit,

* a tiny monkey god and

* a tiny Madonna and child.

Thank God they worked!

Unread post by **nagasiva** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:58 am

he freely shows people what he carries in his pockets:

Oran2 · Unread post by **Oran2** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:35 am

It's been many years since I dabbled in palmistry, but his palms look easy to read! Very distinct lines.

...I wonder if all those charms leave enough room for his cigarettes...hehe

Amanda · Unread post by **Amanda** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:40 am

Saw http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7510 ... onship-run and thought it was interesting: "Jimmie Johnson: NASCAR's Mojo Master Uses Hoodoo For Championship Run"

Unread post by **nagasiva** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:39 pm

some odd turns of phrase in this article about "Jimmie Johnson: NASCAR's Mojo Master" include:

"Mojo Master", "master of the ancient art of hoodoo", "a passionate fan of the belief system", "his early years of hoodooism", "Chad and team members were seen rubbing hoodoo mineral oil throughout the inside of the car", "after rubbing the hoodoo crystal that he had embedded in his driving gloves", "their most sacred hoodoo charm, a red flannel cloth bag filled with petition papers asking for race victory", "consulting the charm [mojo bag]", "use another hoodoo symbol, a ginger root, which he waved directly at Hamlin's Fed Ex car".

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:58 pm

Could someone list President Barack Obama's charms shown here?

Deborah3607 · Unread post by **Deborah3607** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:22 pm

http://www.kansascity.com/stargazing/story/1403714.html
interesting........

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:27 pm

The article quotes it from The National Enquirer, so take it with a grain or two of salt lol.

Unread post by **Chagrinedgirl** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:56 pm

Or a whole pound, lol.

keeperoftherubyshoes · Unread post by **keeperoftherubyshoes** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:13 pm

Lots of salt, but it made me laugh.

coastwitch · Unread post by **coastwitch** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:23 am

In addition to what was listed above, Barack Obama has

* A pewter ovoid stamped with a word; I think it is "Inspiration," but I cannot quite make it out.

* A printed-paper-under-glass medal of the Virgin with Baby Jesus.

* A golden Guardian Angel coin. This is the same as one that Lucky Mojo carries.

C_A_2 · Unread post by **C_A_2** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:09 pm

Greetings,

Are there any rootworkers here who have famous clients (without naming names, of course)?
I've often wondered if Jennifer Lopez's mom was into Santeria or something since she hit the lottery twice, if I recall.

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:31 pm

It would be really unprofessional, in my option at least, to talk about things like that, and its comes very close to bragging.

C_A_2 · Unread post by **C_A_2** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:34 am

Understood. If anyone takes offense, I appologize.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:46 pm

Does anyone recognize any of these charms?

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:00 pm

There is among Barack Obama's chamrs:

* a Miraculous Medal,

* a picture of Jesus,

* a cross carved into a stone,

* a guardian angel.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:48 pm

Interesting, I wanted this information and cross check if LM sells any of them. Some of them are appealing...some strange...some curious. For example, I like the oval cross engraved stone...what type of stone is it?

bluesprof · Unread post by **bluesprof** » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:05 am

In the second picture Barack Obama is also carrying

* a subway or El token (old style),

* a cross that is not carved into the stone but printed onto a piece of onyx,

* The "monkey" god is an amulet of Hanuman (known also as 'Anjaneya' (son of Anjana) or Maruti (or Maruti nandan), one of the most popular concepts of devotees of God (bhakti) (devotion to God) in Hinduism, and one of the most important personalities in the Indian epic, the Ramayana).

* Lucky Mojo definitely sells that same Guardian Angel coin. It is one that has been popular for a couple of decades.

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:00 am

Nagasiva:

The image is from "The Black Pullet."

Thought you would like to know!

Unread post by **Chagrinedgirl** » Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:04 pm

The hoodoo symbol may have already affected me, huh? It has...it's making me think....BS

Sadgirl · Unread post by **Sadgirl** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:56 pm

Thank God or Goddess we finally have a political leader who is willing to admit he is not a hypocrite.

Unread post by **cognitivedissonance** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:51 pm

MIraculous Medals are common, most of the time you don't even have to buy them, just go to the church office and ask if they have any spare. You'll probably come out of it with a Rosary too.

A common trick that is SUPER popular in the Northern states which verges on hoodoo is to bury Miraculous Medals on the property of an enemy who you know is guilty of a crime, and eventually their conscience will cause them to cease or they'll get put up to the authorities. Miraculous Medals are the most common Catholic amulet you can find, if you must buy them they're usually available in any Christian bookstore, Catholic or not, at a range of prices. Some places have a big bowl of them available to purchase large amounts of. Chapels of Perpetual Adoration usually have a few for free on the prayer console near the door.

Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:00 am

Barack Obama's lyucky charms:

* In the second photograph, there is a little pendant with an Indian-looking bearded man on it. it's a color photograph, which suggests this might be a living man revered as a saint by Muslims or Hindus. I'm not absolutely sure, but I think this is Ravi Shankar; not the sitar player, but a Hindu spiritual leader who is also doing much practical work. He founded an NGO which has UN consultative status. Serious practical charity, it looks like. There's a Wikipedia article on him, for starters.

Hope this helps,

Miss Michaele

stelz · Unread post by **stelz** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:52 am

This is awesome.

Unread post by **Sister Jacqueline** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:01 pm

All,

Posting this for snorts and giggles....

Could it be that the Material Girl believes in hoodoo?

Madonna wants all of her DNA removed from her dressing rooms while in Portugal.

http://www.showbizspy.com/article/24754 ... moved.html

You know, she has a lot of connections with Puerto Ricans in her early days, maybe she has deeper connections with the Saints...

Makes you wonder...

Jacqueline A. Mathers 496G
tarot by jacqueline . com

(Hmmm. The use of hair to trick someone is not unique to African American hoodoo nor to Puerto Rican or Portuguese folk magic. I know Madonna to be involved in Jewish Kabbalah work and to wear a red string in the manner of Jewish folk-magic -- but the use of hair to perform negative magic spells is found even closer to home in her case, as it is definitely part of her own Sicilian family heritage, as it is in my Sicilian family. --cat)

atr seeker · Unread post by **atr seeker** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:50 am

I wanted to play devils advocate..

but before i do that..

No one has to name names.. but has any famous and well known movie stars and politicians in the United States come to see Ms. Yronwode? or bought from her? im just curious

ok.. heres the devils advocate

Suppose I wanted to go through the motions with acting and directing motion picture films, Is there a way were I can use roots and hoodoo to get the finances to get funded for a A-list movie?

Or. If i wanted to be an Actor/Actress, and I wanted to get the status of say, Angelina Jolie, or Will smith, or any body who is A-list, like Oprah. What could I use to invite the spirits to help me and position me to make it come true?

Or if i wanted to be a U.S. Senator, or If I was Mitt Romney, and I wanted to beat Obama, and i came to Lucky Mojo, what could i use if he wanted to win and make it become a reality?

Or If i wanted to go into the stock market, and I have the formula, and I wanted to buy businesses, and run hedge funds?

I'm just curious

I know these are silly questions..

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:59 pm

I'm sure Miss Cat respects the privacy of her clients and customers and doesn't reveal their identities.

I suspect that many politicians and celebrities use magic to help themselves along. Of course, we really have no way of knowing. You could certainly use hoodoo for any type of career and financial success, but you would need some actual skills (or rich parents) in the physical world too.

You really should stop saying these are silly questions. A lot of us wonder the same things.

atr seeker · Unread post by **atr seeker** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:02 pm

Nice, im glad that im normal.. many forums i ask these questions too.. i get scolded and told very negative things

thats probably why their magic doesnt work..

spiritual development is good..

but you need skill, luck and hard work.. and that luck is the spirits!!

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:29 am

There are spells for fame. They can be effective, of course. Asking about such spells is not playing "the devil's advcate" in any way. Nor is it "silly."

And Mama Micki is right: i do not reveal the names of my clients, whether they are poor or rich, unknown or famous. They trust me, and i keep that trust.

But let's look at your "silly" question. You started with the premise "suppose i wanted to go through the motions."

You can't perform magical work -- for fame or love or money or health -- by merely "going through the motions. It is not a role-playing game. So ... "going through the motions" would avail you nothing.

Read Isaiah Chapter 58 -- a most powerful indictment of the futility of "going through the motions." If you understand that Bible portion, you will understand why we do not "go through the motions" in prayer or in magic.

Good luck!

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:23 pm

atr seeker wrote: If I was Mitt Romney, and I wanted to beat Obama, and i came to Lucky Mojo, what could i use if he wanted to win and make it become a reality?

These charms may explain President Obama's luck and success:

Done2 · Unread post by **Done2** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:08 pm

If you knew how many psychics have been on the Whitehouse payroll, it would blow your mind.

The two that I know for sure that had psychics on 24 hour standby (and 6 figure incomes for that position) were the Reagans (Jean Dixon) and the Clintons (Jean Huston). Then again McKenzie King used to have seances in order to talk to his dog. A quick Google came up with the following presidents as having personal psychics.

George Washington
Abraham Lincoln
FDR
Wilson
Reagan
Clinton

I'm sure the list is much larger.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:35 am

Many of us work for celebrities and politicians alike. Living close to Hollywood and having some political connections myself, I work with both celebrities and politicians, offering retainer services. However, I value the privacy of my clients and cannot reveal anything other than you'd be surprised by the number of both groups--or their wives--involved in hiring the services of a spiritual worker.

As for Jean Huston, I wouldn't really consider her a psychic, I don't believe she considers herself one. However she certainly is involved in metaphysics, especially New Thought concepts.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:20 pm

Good conversation and I agree with the group...asking is never considered 'silly' here in the forum. You want knowledge, here is where you come to get it.

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:27 pm

Ditto JWmcclin!!!

Unread post by **ProphetAvery** » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:50 pm

Interesting post about the good luck charms. I also remember the psychic twins being on the Tyra Banks show awhile ago and admitting that they worked for the pentagon, but wouldn't go into detail on it.

MojoGuy365 · Unread post by **MojoGuy365** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:43 pm

I wonder if there is any idea of how many practitioners of Hoodoo/Conjure there are today? I would imagine it would have been much harder to ascertain a number in years past, and perhaps it still is a difficult question to answer, but this is something that really just piques my curiosity.

Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:18 pm

MojoGuy365, I would be very surprised if accurate figures were available. Aside from the usual difficulties of definition (who gets to decide what is and is not "hoodoo"? By "practitioner" do we mean only professional rootworkers?), there is the fact that many rootworkers, especially those who only work for their friends and families, are very much under the radar -- by choice and by conviction.

Miss Michaele

MojoGuy365 · Unread post by **MojoGuy365** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:20 pm

Thank you for the response, Miss Michaele, I thought that would likely be the case since it is a folk practice and much more intimate and personal. Thank you again!

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:07 pm

Here is 2016 video of President Obama showing his current array of lucky charms. They change all the time!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35327054