How to Use Lucky Mojo Magical Herbs, Roots, Seeds, Flowers Questions and Answers

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:58 pm

Adam and Eve Roots are a federally (and internationally) protected endangered species. We do not traffic in endangered species.

We do sell blood roots in pieces; you can make your own pairs.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:55 pm

Salt peter is an ingredient in gunpowder. If you cannot find gunpowder, saltpeter can sometimes be used as a substitute. Check with your rootworker to see if this is the case in this case.

Gunpowder is used to make fireworks and ammunition, so if you have either of those lying around you can "harvest" some from there.

stillsosola · Unread post by **stillsosola** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:37 pm

Must i use obscure herbs for domination or may i use cumin seeds and rosemary and other common herbs? Is it imparative to purchase the exact herbs?

Like for a nation sack could I substitute an adam and eve root for the more expensive John the conquerer or Orris root?

Unread post by **aura** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:45 am

Hi stillsosola,

The best investment that you can make is Miss Cat's Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic. It delves in depth into each root and herb and tells you how each can be used and then some. That way you can substitute as you see fit. That said, you can't bend the rules until you've learnt them and know them so well that you are perfectly aware of what your swaps will do to a given formula - yet another reason the book will be your ''less for more'' choice with regards to Conjure Shopping: http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodooherbmagic.html

Adam and eve root aren't sold anymore out of respect for the endangered status of the plants, so don't even consider purchasing it (chances are you'd be getting a dud anyhow).

Finally, please do keep in mind that this is a forum for Lucky Mojo Spiritual Products and thus it is somewhat insulting to refer to the web-hosters of your own questions as ''grossly over-priced''.

Blessings and Success in your work.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:44 am

You can always stick to Lucky Mojo oils, powders, and bath crystals, and can be assured that the proper herbs are added to the products.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:00 pm

stillsosola --

Adam and eve roots are protected under federal and international ENDANGERED SPECIES laws and anyone pretending to sell these roots to you to you is selling you FALSE GOODS -- usually Landscaper's Fir Tree Bark chips -- not a root of any kind, just bark mulch from a plant nursery that they purchase by the 50 lb. bag and resell with a fake name.

stillsosola · Unread post by **stillsosola** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:57 pm

I haven't really tried ordering from Lucky Mojo yet. I was raised in a more hispanic/mediterranean tradition in which culinary herbs are more often used, but I am very interested in african root work. is miss cat's book for sale on site? I can't find it on amazon.

Unread post by **aura** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:37 am

Hi stillsosola,

you'll find that African American Rootwork also uses many house-hold herbs and minerals

Miss Cat's book is available for sale via Lucky Mojo and Amazon, as well as other distrobutors; here is the info page on it at the bottom of which there's a link to purchase - it's still a favourite reference and re-read for me: you'll find it quite invaluable: http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodooherbmagic.html

Blessings.

Countrybumpkin · Unread post by **Countrybumpkin** » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:21 am

Having just watched a Dead Files series program, Amy Allan mentioned a product called Tar Water, which she said comes from New Orleans. One drop of this in each room and you will never have any spirits in your home again, good or bad. Does anyone know where this product can be purchased?

Thank you for your help or advice.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:22 am

This is a forum to assist the customers of Lucky Mojo Curio Company. I don't believe that Lucky Mojo sells tar water.

Countrybumpkin · Unread post by **Countrybumpkin** » Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:12 pm

Thanks for the help!

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:56 pm

We don't sell tar water because it is carcinogenic and althoough you may get by with one bottle now and then, i do not want to be filling hundreds of bottles and ruining my health.

Unread post by **rev.jordan** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:20 pm

I've stumbled upon a huge collection of perfectly spherical, sandstone rocks. Some are pretty large (golfball size) and some are tiny as marbles. Apparently they're some kind of sandstone concretions, and they are sold under names such as called Shaman Stones, Thunderballs, and Moqui Marbles.

They're significant in some sort of Native American practice, but I can't seem to dig much deeper than lots of new-agey information. They radiate this amazing spiritual energy and I've never seen them anywhere before.

Do these have any use in hoodoo? I'm thinking about including small ones in mojos.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:36 pm

Obskultus,

Moqui balls are hematite enriched Navajo sandstone concretions found in south-central and southeastern Utah around Zion National Park, Arches National Park, Canyonland National Park, and the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument. Because they contain hematite (iron ore) they may be weakly magnetic, which accounts for the strange sensations one can feel when two of them are brought into close proximity. They are nowhere near as magnetic as lodestones, but a sensitive person will definitely feel "something" in them.

Due to their location of origin, far from the American South, where African American hoodoo folk magic was developed, and the lack of interest in entering them into commerce until recently, when they have received a large commercial push among New Agers and rock shop owners, they -- like other interesting rock formations, such as barite roses -- were never a part of traditional conjure. However, there is nothing to stop you from adding one or two to a mojo hand as a personally meaningful power object. They very cool indeed. I have my own favourite pair myself, in my "oddities" collection -- but then, i am an old-time rock hound.

Unread post by **rev.jordan** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:31 pm

Hmm. Maybe these just look A LOT like them; because they're all over my rocky dirt rd in rural, NC. It's a mystery, but they're definitely neat!

Doctor C · Unread post by **Doctor C** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:58 pm

Hello and thanks to all for making this forum such a great place. I was wondering if anyone could advise me preparing herbs for a mojo. I've read that lodestones, for instance, are baptized in whiskey and dressed with condition oil and/or sexual fluids. Is this to be done for something like Queen Elizabeth Root, as well?

Also, could a chunk of Dragons Blood be substituted for Sampson snake root in drawing a dominant male lover?

Btw, I've ordered Cat's book but it hasn't arrived yet.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:02 pm

Hello, Doctor C, and welcome to the Forum.

You can anoint any solid root, and some folks do -- but by no means do all folks. You would do best to use an oil, just to lightly oil it. However, i personally would not do that with Queen Elizabeth Root as its own fragrance is so compelllingly lovely that i would hate to ruin it by adding another scent over it.

Dragon's Blood is more lucky and protective than "male dominating." Use John the Conquer Root or Master Root, if you don't want Sampson Snake Root -- although why you would not want it, i don't know, since it is a good, old-timey root and we sell it for only three bucks a pack!

The magical qualities of our herbs are described in this book, with folkloric hoodoo spells for use in practical conjure,

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Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:16 pm

Ah, well there are various types of sandstone concretions all over the world, but Moqui marbles are from one specific area, as far as i know.

There is a similar, but less "active" sandstone concretion from the Great Plains known as Kansas Pop Rocks, in which the outer layer is pyrite instead of hematite. They are found in other Midwestern states besides Kansas; but that is their common name. A more recent name for them is Boji Stones -- same thing.

I have also seen concretions called Schoharie Button Rocks County, from Schoharie, New York.

Concretions are lots of fun! There are many, many types!

Doctor C · Unread post by **Doctor C** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:23 pm

Hello Cat, thanks for the response! I just placed my order a few days ago and sadly forgot the Sampson Root. I want to tap into the full moon coming on Wednesday, so I would miss it waiting on the Sampson root. For the mojo, I'm using the Queen Elizabeth Root, lovage root, lodestone, and Q oil for anointing. I have dragon's blood on hand as well as some safflower petals, guinea grains, coriander, and cardamom. So, maybe the dragon's blood can be used for an extra kick and luck? Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:38 pm

Doctor C: That sounds like a lovely Mojo Bag you have cooking up! Keep us posted on how the construction goes for you. In regard to your first question, I always wake up my roots; whisper to them, speak with them, breathe on them, bring them to life! The more you do this the more they will speak to you and your intuition will take over. It takes time, but it will be so worth it in the end.

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:40 pm

Outer layer of Pyrite instead of Hematite!? Wow, sign me up for both! This is a stone I have seen and knew about previously, but have yet to purchase., This thread gave me pause to perhaps find one I'd like to get!

pinemarten · Unread post by **pinemarten** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:21 pm

Is anyone here familiar with "Mexican Scratch Grass"? What the other common/scientific names might be?

I was doing an inspection on a house today, and when we went inside, the tenant had two altars set up. Each had a Sacred Heart of Jesus candle burning, and a basket of oranges and chicken eggs.

When we went in the kitchen, there were big cooking pots left there, the kind you would use to heat bathwater, with a layer of herbs on the bottom, and dozens of little packets of those same dried herbs sitting on the counter. The packets all had "Mexican Scratch Grass" printed on them in in English. It wasn't any culinary herb I could identify easily by sight and scent. The herb was pale green, and looked almost like straws of hay or young bamboo.

So now curiosity has got the better of me. I'm an avid gardener, and 'be grown and collected hundred of herbs...but this isn't one I'm familiar with.

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:06 am

I have seen packets of whole Lemongrass that looked as you described, but I figure this would be fairly discernible by the smell if that were the case. Interesting. Thanks for sharing your observations on that and hopefully someone will chime in with some answers.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:55 am

We sell long-cut lemongrass, but "Scratch Grass" is not Lemongrass. That American common name refers to Muhlenbergia asperifolia.

This map shows the range and distribution of Scratch Grass in the USA:

Note that Scratch Grass is absent from the epicenter of hoodoo and rootwork development, namely the South-Eastern United States. Remember that hoodoo is the magical culture of African Americans living in Georgia, Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, Louisiana, Florida, and so forth -- all states where Scratch Grass does not occur. Also note that Scratch Grass has no known medical properties or culinary usages, so it would not have been commerically distributed into those states by pharmacies or grocery stores in the past -- or at the present time. That's why Scratch Grass does not appear as an ingredient in home medical remedies or in lists of spells developed within the African Ame4rican hoodoo community during the past 200 years.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:16 am

Hoodoo views each natural element as living and breathing with its own spirit. The world is connected and permeated by a world of spirits, natural, alive, and once alive. These spirits often make themselves manifest in a physical property that some can observe from the plant, or root we are working with. For example, Violet Leaves are shaped like hearts therefore they help with matters of the heart. This is called the Doctrine of Signatures. Conjure and other folk-traditions view this as God's purpose for that particular element of His creation.

The conjure doctor knows how to call upon that spirit as an ally and get it to work towards a particular purpose. Each of the spiritual qualities are woven together through the knowledge the conjure doctor has on what goes with what and are directed through the will, intent, and prayers of the practitioner.

But simply put the "magic" comes from the spirit of what we are working with!

Now, while this has been interesting, this is off-topic as it has nothing to do with actual products, but is instead on theory. We'll leave it up for others to read since so many posted, but for now try to stay on topic.

Thanks All!

Tristan · Unread post by **Tristan** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:44 pm

I knew that Lucky Mojo has a Niño Fidencio line of products, but only just saw the Niño Fidencio entry on the Lucky W Amulet Archive. On that page, a seven-day bath product is described. Here are the other herbs used in the baths which aren’t identified on the page, for anyone interested.

(2) El baño de *hojase (the bath of Tarbush, Floursenia cernua; also spelled hojasé and ojase.)
*Not to be confused with the similar sounding hojasen (Senna spp.)

(3) El baño de cenizo (the bath of Texas Sage, Silverleaf, Purple Sage, Leucophyllum frutescens)

(6) El baño de Visbirinda (the bath of Goatbush, Allthorn, Chaparro Amargoso, Castela texana. More commonly spelled bisbirinda.)

Some translation notes for that page:

Hinchazones does indeed mean swelling, like edema. For example: párpado hinchado meaning swollen or puffy eyelid; hinchazón de tobillos meaning swollen ankles.

The word “entuilimiento” should be entullimiento and means crippleness or paralysis. It comes from the word tullido meaning cripple. Example: un brazo tullido meaning a crippled arm.

The word atontamiento means dazed, stupor, or listlessness. It comes from the word tonto, meaning stupid, foolish, or dumb.

If you'd like to work with this extremely popular Mexican folk healer and saint, check out the product line!

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:35 pm

Wow, Tristan -- that is so nice of you to share! Thank you! When i have time, i will add this information to the page and credit you (too busy right now, but i will not forget!).

Tristan · Unread post by **Tristan** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:36 am

You're welcome cat! Thank you for making all this invaluable information available to the public!

TheBeard · Unread post by **TheBeard** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:35 am

Some time ago I harvested a red fox that was killing my chickens. I cleaned and whitened his skull and glued his teeth back in thinking that I would eventually make a european skull mount out of him but never did.

I have been looking around for a way to use this skull in hoodoo but can't seem to find anything and perhaps that is because there isn't one. I still thought I would ask here if there is perhaps a way to dress the skull with LM products such as "wisdom of solomon" maybe, playing of the concept that fox's have been considered sly or wise in folklore for such a long time?

Or perhaps there is a traditional use that is known but I haven't found it yet? I hope this question isn't offensivley foolish.

I hope to petition Mrs Cat in the near future to take her course and move beyond my current level of ignorance but I will need to wait a month or so before I can do that.

Unread post by **Lady Marie** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:04 pm

How incredibly wonderful! For an interesting take on what one could do with fox bones think sly, trickster,clever to a fault. I think of hoodoo in terms of songs because that is my primary mode of understanding all things. There is a lovely old song about a fox named Reynardine Maybe it is just me, but this song leaves little out to my mind about how one could understand the animal. For this student the music and mythos meet and inform the work. Check out Fairport Convention-Reynardine.

TheBeard · Unread post by **TheBeard** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:51 pm

Thank you oldbefana, I admire your creative flare. Without the ingredient of creativity I can't imagine how any magical philosophy could have been developed.

goldentouch97 · Unread post by **goldentouch97** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:23 pm

i wanna know if rootworker in hoodoon tradition use it

Unread post by **Mary Bee** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:31 pm

I received a lovely Rose of Jericho root from the last MISC workshops at Lucky Mojo in May. Susan Diamond presented a workshop on working with this great plant. I keep mine in a glass dish and feed it water, and I sprinkle the water around my conjure space for good luck.
Let the root dry out completely every week so it won't get moldy.
Mary Bee

goldentouch97 · Unread post by **goldentouch97** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:57 pm

You know to get in link with the spirit of this plant ?

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:11 pm

Everyone goes about this differently, goldentouch97, and it can be very daunting to cold-teach someone this process. Speak to the spirit and start to cultivate a relationship with it.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:32 am

Just to clarify -- Lucky Mojo does not carry this plant because i, the owner, am spiritually distressed when i walk by them on the shelf and they cry out for water. About 15 years ago, it got so bad that i gave them all away and swore never to keep them in the shop again. I have nothing against them -- but holding dozens of them captive while they cry and beg for water is just beyond my spiritual limits.

Glaciers · Unread post by **Glaciers** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:41 pm

Happy New Year to all.

The great Conjure Man Ali and Dr. E did a radio show on New Year rituals which was absolutely fabulous. CM Ali talked about burning red onion skins on New Years eve to attract prosperity. What would be the proper mode of disposal for these remnants? Should they be buried in the front or the backyard?

Also Dr. E talked about lighting peaceful home vigils. I had blue 4 inch candles dressed with LM peaceful home and money house blessing oil which i lit at midnite along with dressed white tea lights. What is the proper disposal of these candles? front or back yard?

I am hoping CM Ali can reply to this post. Thank you for that wonderful show and all the rituals you share with us,I was able to do several of them including adding cinnamon and sugar to water and sprinkling it up to the front door.

Thank you in advance, and blessings to all for an amazing 2013.

Glaciers

Apollo Dark · Unread post by **Apollo Dark** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:58 pm

Hello Glaciers,

Dispose of remains that are to draw in the new in the Front Yard, and Dispose of things that are meant to cast away the old at the Crossroads, or under a tree in a sacred place.

This is how I do my disposals anyway.

Best of Luck to You!

Unread post by **Papa Newt** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:22 am

Apollo Dark gave you some great advice. Be sure to check out Laing Down Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remnants in the Hoodoo Tradition to learn more.

Earthwitch · Unread post by **Earthwitch** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:00 am

Hello all and Happy New Year!
Although I keep getting emails saying I haven't been to forum( annoying). I am not leaving and still with you guys. Thanks to Conjure Man Ali & Miss Cat I have been employed for some time ( hope this good luck continues) . Working means more income , more income means more purchases at Lucky Mojo. Yay! I am still building my stock and want to take class. Ok on to my question. I am working on something for Valentines day. I need Adam & Eve Root. I saw the above post and saw it was illegal? Ok so what else really good can I use. I am working on an oil to make the night special ( wink , wink) I am making oil now so it will be really potent then. All advice , tips welcome. Peace & luv

indian_conjure · Unread post by **indian_conjure** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:39 am

Does Tiger Skin or Lion Skin have any importance in Hoodoo?

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:11 pm

Not that I know of.

KittyLove · Unread post by **KittyLove** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:55 am

Cool. I thought that snow could be used as a source of live water! Glad to know this, I was actually going to ask but happy I found the answer. Which brings me to a new question. Does the snow need to be fresh as in new fallen or can you use existing snow that has been on the ground for a few days that has been undisturbed as long as it's clean?

Thank you kindly,
MissKittylovesNanny

Unread post by **aura** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:21 am

Spiritual baths with fresh clean snow melted are some of my favourite. It has a very calm, quieting energy excellent for Tranquility, Psychic Vision and Clarity work. As long as the snow is clean - it's perfect for use, it doesn't need to be fresh fallen. You'll also see that it takes a whole lot of snow to make enough to bathe in

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:42 pm

Just because something exists, that does not mean it "has a use in hoodoo." Also, in case you have not yet noticed, this is a product forum for spiritual supplies which we make by hand and sell. We do not make snow.

If you are interested in what sorts of natural herbs, roots, minerals, and zoological curios are used in hoodoo, i recommend my book "Hoodoo Herb aqnd Root Magic" and my correspondence course "Hoodoo Rootwork Correspondence Course."

KittyLove · Unread post by **KittyLove** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:10 pm

Oops. Sorry I posted in the wrong section? I thought I had posted a reply to a thread in the baths and washes section? I was wondering because I plan to use the water from melted snow to mix with LM bath crystals. I thought that I had read within either the forum or the page on using LM bath crystals that free running water, like rain water was preferred to using plain old tap water. The question had been in my mind for a few months and i came across the thread today while I was double checking myself on using the LM bath crystals. not sure when it will rain again. My apologies for not staying on topic.

Yes I do plan to take the course (I'm saving the $20's next to psalm 23) and I do possess "Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic". The book is what led me to the question.

Thanks for your reply,
MissKittylovesNanny

Unread post by **Papa LeRoy** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:37 pm

in the HHRM book to kill a women's interest in other men, is stated to boil a Snail. Does one use a live and dried snail to work this formula.And does L.M. sells them.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:41 pm

The snail is boiled alive. We do not sell live snails.

Unread post by **Papa LeRoy** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:59 pm

Thanks Ms Cat

Mismaude · Unread post by **Mismaude** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:25 pm

I have just been offered to buy a mummified human hand from my antique dealer. Needless to say, I'm am rather intrigued by the thought of buying it, but my enthusiasm is ofcourse also shadowed by some concern of the consequenses, by owning human remains. My dealer don't know much about it, other than it is victorian, most likely british but there's also a chance that it could derive from ancient egypt.

So my question is as follows, what are the potential spiritual consequenses of owning such a thing? Could I put myself at risk of being possessed or cursed? -even if I store it away from my home?
If I do decide to buy it, what precautions should and can I make?

Hope someone will be able to help

Thank you, Marianne.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:40 pm

This is the Lucky Mojo Forum, and we do not sell mummified hands.

My advice to you, however, is the same i give to those who seek to work with the human and animal bones that we do sell at Lucky Mojo: Consult with the spirit of the person whose hand it is.

Unless you have a spiritual, mediumistic, magical, or religious connection to the hand, it is just a novelty.

Good luck.

TRUE BLOOD · Unread post by **TRUE BLOOD** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:01 pm

what plants in hoodoo are also used in palo monte mayombe, ocha, and ifa?

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:04 pm

TRUE BLOOD,

The best way to find that out would be to compare the plant lists in my book "Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic" with whatever sources you have for the various African and African Diasporic religions you just named. There are definitely some overlaps -- and some also overlap with usages in European folk magic and Native American folk magic.

Here's my book:

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You can order right here in the Forum by clicking on the blue Add To Cart button.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:55 am

Just an update: Papa Newt has completed a HUGE upgrade to our web page called

Hoodoo At A Glance
http://luckymojo.com/hoodooataglance.html

This project was started in 1999 by Reave Socratic, working off of my paper and online catalogues, and referencing my online book "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice. Papa Newt has html-ized the document, providing links to all of the items mentioned, so you can read more and then order them. What a stupendous job, Newt -- and you have my eternal gratitude!

sandra_swaybe · Unread post by **sandra_swaybe** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:52 pm

Hi All,

I've recently received some resin or mineral from a friend in Jordan. I can't make out what it may be. She told me it's North African and it's resin from a tree there called Akrakoukia/Akrakokia and often referred to as the Lallibanda tree.

The resin is dark red, almost black and is shiny and almost glass-like in appearance. If anyone knows its latin name or what is called in western terms I would love to know.

Thank you

Brry · Unread post by **Brry** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:12 am

Hi, I'm Brry for those who don't already know me, I've worked assorted magic shops and festivals for years reading cards and cast spells for my clients.

Now, here's what I've been working on. Oils are used for various properties of that plant, cinnamon to heat things up, calamus to command because it looks like it's covered in erect penises, rose for love because it looks like a blooming vagina and smells sweet, Solomon Seal roots look like they have royal seals, Mandrakes look like little people, and so on and so forth.

So here's the thing.

What about using plants with addictive qualities to make someone hooked on you?

Opium seems like it would be great for that yet I've never seen opium oil listed any where as a love oil. Only for psychic work or dreams.

How about Tobacco? Nicotine is one hard habit to break.

Coffee beans, even. That might serve the dual purpose of having them 'wake up and pay attention' while getting addicted to you.

Seems like someone should try mixing plants with addictive qualities with other plants known for love, like rose, and see if that works. Sweet cherry-tobacco cigars perhaps?

I might test this out myself and get back with you guys. Dab a little vanilla, cinnamon and coffee behind your ears, walk around smelling like a Starbucks, and who doesn't love that?

AprilRaine · Unread post by **AprilRaine** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:59 am

Opium is made from the poppy and poppy seeds are used for confusion, so the affect you get could be one you didn't anticipate. I would only worry about some kind of backfire while experimenting.... but that's just my humble point of view

Unread post by **Doctor Hob** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:56 am

A lot of the plant lore, in hoodoo, falls under the Doctrine of Signatures. The use of toxic plants, which is largely what you're getting into, when you discuss narcotic, or powerfully medicinal plants, didn't seem to make a strong transition from Western traditions.

To speak to your example; I suspect that poppy flowers are used for dreaming because of the vision-inducing qualities of poppy. However, in case you've never witnessed an opiate addiction, it is a dreadful thing, followed by an even more terrible withdrawl period. Please recall that poppy seeds are used to sow confusion. Calling on the qualities of opium (besides being possibly illegal to produce) could lead more to obsession than attraction. Likewise, with tobacco; I've seen a grown man sit in his living room floor, and weep, because he couldn't afford cigarettes. Dependant addictions break people.

These are powerful forces, worthy of respect.

Love is intoxicating enough. Everyone wants to be loved, everyone wants to get laid, everyone wants to be swept away. The components that inspire love, in whatever form, don't need hooks, hidden among the petals.

Coffee in love work is an interesting idea, though more for its stimulating qualities, than for its addictive ones. I've used it in school and study work, for that same reason. I'd be mindful of the smell, though. There's a balance between smelling tasty, and smelling like you just got off of work.

MoonBreath · Unread post by **MoonBreath** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:29 pm

Here is something to consider Brry, not everyone who takes narcotic medicine is addicted to it - these people use it to block horrible pain ( it doesn't make them "high" ). In these cases, it is the pain blocking properties of opiates which are the true characteristics of the plant. I believe it is these blocking properties we see when opiates are used in confusion - they "block" your senses. Same with coffee, it is a stimulant but not everyone who drinks it is addicted. I guess what I am saying is just because SOME folks get addicted to opiates and caffeine etc... doesn't mean that "addiction" is the true nature of the plant.

Maybe if you want to "hook" someone, you could use plants with barbs on them? Like a burr

Something that will latch onto a person ... like Beggar Lice.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:21 pm

sandra_swaybe,

That sounds like Dragon's Blood resin. We do sell it, and i will point you toward some informative pages:

http://herb-magic.com/dragons-blood-resin.html

dragon%CA%B9s-blood-resin-qustions-and- ... 14325.html

http://www.luckymojo.com/products-dragons-blood.html

Brry,

1) We do not sell opium. We do sell Poppy Flowers and Poppy Seeds.

2) We do sell Black Candle Tobacco. See this thread:

Tobacco (Cigarettes, Snuff, Cigars) Questions and Answers
tobacco-cigarettes,-snuff,-cigars-quest ... ml#p120920

3) We do not sell coffee beans.