Personal Concerns (Hair, Photo, Name, Clothing) Questions and Answers

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:32 pm

SilverStar,

A photo is good, a photocopy of his signature is weak.O would glue signature copy to the back of the photo and add is birthdate, then write the petition over that.

SilverStar · Unread post by **SilverStar** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:26 am

catherineyronwode wrote:SilverStar,

A photo is good, a photocopy of his signature is weak.O would glue signature copy to the back of the photo and add is birthdate, then write the petition over that.

thank you Miss Cat, I'll do it this way!

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:04 pm

These items are personal concerns and can be used in love spells for various reasons. Read here (http://www.luckymojo.com/bodyfluids.html ) For example, used underwear can be used to tie your target to you and socks for the same purpose. You can use pieces of either item as a personal concern in a doll baby to draw your target to you. WIthout being redundant, I posted a few discussions on the topic from the forum below

How to reuse used underwear (how-to-reuse-used-underwear-t8509s602.html)
Foottrack magic (http://www.luckymojo.com/foottrack.html)
Spells for love & sex (http://www.luckymojo.com/spells/red/lov ... pells.html)

P_K · Unread post by **P_K** » Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:47 pm

Thank you for your response and the links. I was hoping there could be something that called specifically for the items as it would be such fun, but at least I have things to use for if I run out of hair!

Unread post by **aura** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:07 am

Hi P_K,

there is one spell that calls specifically for underwear and it's used to keep a man (or woman) from running around. You tie the underwear in a knot and then bury it in your back yard. You can find it in the page on laying tricks in the section on burial in the home yard here: http://www.luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html#earth

another use of underwear (but yours this time) is to wrap a baby-doll in that you're working on a love-target with. Keeping the doll wrapped and bound (and in the dark!) via your underwear when not actively being worked, keeps the love life hot and their mind on your pants - literally!

Hopefully those two supplementary tidbits to jwmcclin's great references will give you a bit of extra food for thought.

P_K · Unread post by **P_K** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:16 am

Thanks aura; I will hang onto the items for possible use later on then.

Unread post by **Priestess Divine** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:10 am

I have a thick piece of frayed material from my love interests crotch. How can I use this in a love spell? Since it came form the crotch area I figured it could be used in a unique manner. Thanks & Blessings

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:00 am

Its a personal concern (soiled item of clothing) that can be used in a variety of spells. Read through this forum discussion How to reuse used underwear for ideas...or you may discover some ideas here Laying down tricks...

Unread post by **Priestess Divine** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:16 pm

I apologize! It is the sting from the crotch of his JEANS. Like frayed crotch rocked out ripped jeans.Lol. I guess that makes a difference...yes?

Unread post by **aura** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:10 am

Hi Priestess Divine,

in this particular case, jwmcclin's links are still the useful ones for you. I think you may be referring to tying a man's nature with the string as is done in a nation sack, and although you could use the string for that purpose, you would need to go through the ''sperming and tying'' of the string as if it hadn't been used nonetheless. No doubt a more experienced worker can confirm or correct this for you however.

Blessings.

Newbie · Unread post by **Newbie** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:06 pm

Hello,

1) Do personal photos, like passport or stamp size photos (that were ones in his possession - not ones printed or taken off of internet) count as personal concerns?

2) Can any number of personal concerns be added to the honey jar, or is it either photos or handwritten notes or hair etc only?

3) Can I tie both our photos with my hair alone and put it in the jar - both our photos facing each other - wrapped by my hair.

4) Where should I specify the color of candle that comes with honey jar spell kit while ordering online?

Regards.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:10 pm

Newbie, i am merging this into the thread on personal concerns.

1) Yes.

2) No, you are making packets, not stirring random things into the honey pr sugar. Ugh -- especially if you will be eating or cooking with that honey or sugar. No old sweaty shoes!

3) That's not how it is done, sorry. You want the other person to be sweet to you. You can put both photos in, or a hair from both, folded into the paper packet or photo packet, but just your hair would not accomplish much -- after all, you are not trying to make you sweet to yourself.

4) The candle that comes with each honey jar kit is already specified. You may then order a dozen-pack more of that colour, if you wish.

Newbie · Unread post by **Newbie** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:27 pm

Then where do the personal concerns go if not in to the honey jar?
I was thinking...photos or other personal concerns will go into the folded paper (that has our names perpendicular to each other circled by my wish/petition) which will be folded to the smallest possible sized packet which will eventually be pushed into the honey jar.

If I choose both our hair or other personal concern instead of photos, then those go in the petition paper instead of photos?
Did i get that right?

I read your posts and photos are not that strong compared to other very intimate items. Are personal, not from internet or printed photos, also not strong enough personal concerns?
Sorry if I am being too naive.

Regards.

Newbie · Unread post by **Newbie** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:01 pm

I am not in a very good situation as far as personal concerns go. But I looked thru his stuff I have.
I have a couple of photos, real photos...not internet photos.
His original signature, his state id (few years old one...changed states four times after that but he carried it around at least for a year), student id which he carried around for at least 1.5 years.

I understand they are not semen, hair, nails or soiled clothes, but are these at least strong enough personal concerns?

I know no two situations are same but I have to at least try.
Please do reply....thanks.

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:12 pm

Yes they are indeed.

That answers your question. I am going to look for a post with Miss Cat and Jwmcclin for a list that can help.

Newbie · Unread post by **Newbie** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:20 pm

Miss Tammie Lee,
Amazing, thanks for the fastest ever reply, lol.

I did read Miss Cat's post on the decreasing order of power of personal concerns and photos are the last or least powerful..but nothing was said about signatures (i read one of the users asking the same question ... if they were good enough...cant remember in which section).

That's why I was hoping to get the opinion of someone who might have used such things.

Only concern would be since the ids cannot be folded, the petition paper cannot be folded to as little size as possible. Hope that's okay.
I have very limited personal items so I have to use them carefully.

that being said, i forgot to mention, i also have his father's signature.

Thanks again.

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:33 pm

Ok I have been thinking about nice ladylike ways to say some of the things I'm about to suggest. Sigh. Here we go
Yes signatures are great but read the thread and read what Miss Cat posted.

It is so easy to get hair from someone whether you are romantically involved or not. TAPE I want to give reference to this great tip from a Member of AIRR, It is his idea not mine, just get some tape and get some hair! Whether a family Member, co worker, someone ugly where do they sit?

Hair... the toilette.
(separate issue applying to anyone).... If you are a great spouse, lover, significant other... I like to "groom". I like manicured hands and nails. I can shave the hair off a man's neck there are just certain "spoil things" I do. And Yes-- I get return on my investment

.

Toothbrush: get them a new one. It is easy to "knock over" on a normal day the holder. None of us would want to brush our teeth with a toothbrush that fell on the floor... right? YUK!!!

See how basic this can be? Get a Napkin at dinner, get a straw... see above read the whole thread.

I hope this helps you in your endeavors,

Miss Tammie Lee

Newbie · Unread post by **Newbie** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:00 pm

Yes, i understand but i do not have any access to any of that..not geographically accessible anymore

So I really have no other option but to use what limited things I have unless there is a way to get things from ppl far away

But thanks a lot. I will keep it in mind.

Newbie · Unread post by **Newbie** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:35 pm

I am counting on the student id card and state id...since he might have touched them many times.

But since the id cards are cut by a machine and machine/scissor cutting is not prescribed in hooodoo, i am wondering!!

Kindly advice

Same thing with the real photo i was talking about. Those photos are generally machine cut unlike print-out of a photo on a paper which can be torn in to a square shape to get rid of machine cut edges.
Am I right?

onyxorchid · Unread post by **onyxorchid** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:17 pm

I need some suggestions for using the items I have from my target. I have worn (and unwashed) underpants and a used condom. I read something about knotting the underpants and burying them, but he doesn't live with me. I don't see him real often because he lives a couple hours away, but he comes down here ever few months, and I'm trying to focus on getting him here more and eventually for good and I want to do work to keep him from getting involved with other girls.

I have a lot of LM love oils (Love Me, Return to Me, Come to Me, Adam & Eve, Chuparosa), as well as Road Opener.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:35 pm

You got some good stuff. You can use the used underwear to keep him coming to you by burying them at your front door. You can use the semen on candle spells such as the ones you listed. Here is some discussion of
Body Fluids in Hoodoo

...and read this link to give you additional ideas Binding spell on a lover or ex lover

Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:43 pm

You can freeze or dry that semen to use for future spells, too.

Miss Michaele

onyxorchid · Unread post by **onyxorchid** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:56 pm

I live in an apartment where my front door is in an inside hallway, I can't really bury anything there.

I do have a balcony, could I bury it in a flower pot there?

Unread post by **Papa Newt** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:58 pm

onyxorchid- You can. Get yourself a potted house plant and if you are able to put it by the front door or close to the front door as possible would be great.

Alex73 · Unread post by **Alex73** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:45 pm

I am currently preparing a railroad spike spell for home protection. At the end of the spell, you urinate to mark your spikes. My question is do you have to just kinda whip it out and go or can you urinate in a vessel and then pour it on the spikes. I live in a slightly busy area and don't think the neighbors would appreciate the whip it out method. LOL Thanks.
-Alex

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:57 pm

LOL! Well, i am more of a squatter than a whip it outer, but i do not collect urine in pots for later distribution. i wait until dark and then just emit it on the site.

Newbie · Unread post by **Newbie** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:52 pm

catherineyronwode wrote:LOL! Well, i am more of a squatter than a whip it outer, but i do not collect urine in pots for later distribution. i wait until dark and then just emit it on the site.

mommabear · Unread post by **mommabear** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:43 pm

Hello Everyone, I would like tie my target's underwear, but not sure where to bury them. I did look on the laying tricks page and here, but could not find a answer. My target and I live apart. I in a apartment owned by my family, with no real front yard, but a small patch of grass about 5ft long in front and large field in back. My home is considered permanent in tell the time comes that the family decides to sell it. As for Him, he lives in a rental house that has a huge yard and field, not to mention access under the house. The owner recently passed away and it is still up in the air if the family is going to hold onto the house or sell. The lease is up next month, fingers crossed that they give him another 6mth lease.When we are together we are at his house, but also he has in the past had other woman there too. This including his soon to be Ex wife that keeps dropping in for visits in the name of friendship. lol.
1. Where is the best place to bury his knotted underwear, my place or his?
2. If his, he has many places, in the field, under the house, under a rose bush or he has a huge cactus in a pot that if he moves he will take with him.

I also have a question on a vinegar jar and oils, I will post them in their proper place to hopefully help others that may have the same questions. Thanks.

Unread post by **aura** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:21 am

Hi becca7417,

You can get yourself a potted plant (or re-pot one that you have already), and bury the underwear at the bottom of the new container. Alternatively, the spell in questions usually calls for burying the underwear in the back-yard to keep him from straying. If the field is your back-yard, then that could serve as well.

Other more experienced workers may also have some input that can help!

mysticguy · Unread post by **mysticguy** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:19 am

Have a few questions there is people I know and I dont know if they know my real name or not but they address or talk to me of my nick-name and I address them of there nick-name also.

1) Is it better when performing or petitioning spells or carving candles to use my nick-name and their nick-name that we call ourselves or should I use both of our real names?

2) When praying the petition or desire do you pray the nick-name we know each other by, real names or both?

3) And for future advice........ let's say we dont know each other real name's at all, but we know each other only by nick-name's... will that be fine to use our nick-names only also in petitioning and spells an does it change the affect of the spells or intent you're trying to do?

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:23 am

Use real names if possible. You can add a nickname, and if you don't know the real name, use what you have.

heartexalted · Unread post by **heartexalted** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:28 am

Mama Micki wrote:Use real names if possible. You can add a nickname, and if you don't know the real name, use what you have.

And I suppose the "use what you have" part would also apply in situations where you have first/last names, but no middle names? Thanks!

Newbie · Unread post by **Newbie** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:41 pm

Dear All,
Kindly reply at your earliest convenience.

Does a pocket square (decorative pocket handkerchief) serve as a good personal concern?
He used to just once when he wore it to a wedding and gave it to me as a keep sake.
It was never washed, after purchase or after wearing.

But it's only decorative. It touched only his hands and no other body part. No sweat was involved either.

But it has been with me after that for a long time. So not sure if it still has HIS scent on it.
Are clothing items used to capture the person's scent??

What do you guys think?

I need your opinion before I cut it (Can I actually CUT it? read something about cutting means cutting magic) because it is one of the very very few things of his that is left with me and I value whatever is left dearly.

Thanks.

mommabear · Unread post by **mommabear** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:24 pm

aura wrote:Hi becca7417,

You can get yourself a potted plant (or re-pot one that you have already), and bury the underwear at the bottom of the new container. Alternatively, the spell in questions usually calls for burying the underwear in the back-yard to keep him from straying. If the field is your back-yard, then that could serve as well.

Other more experienced workers may also have some input that can help!

Aura, Thank you for the reply. After thought, I think I will try and bury them in a big potted cactus he has at his house since if he did try and see other woman he would take them to his house and too if he does have to move from that house he would take this cactus with him.

Unread post by **aura** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:23 am

Hi newbie,

The handkerchief is a personal concern. It isn't as close a link as bodily fluid, hair or nails, but it has been in contact with him and can be used for working. If you have any samples of his writing, those too can be used. You can find out more about this on the following page made available by miss cat: http://www.luckymojo.com/bodyfluids.html. The section you're looking for is about two thirds of the way down the page and entitled ''SUBSTITUTES FOR BODY FLUIDS: THE MAGICAL LINK''.

If you don't want to cut the handkercief, look for a loose thread that you can pull out and then use.

mommabear · Unread post by **mommabear** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:22 am

Quick question on personal concerns,,,would a scanned copy of a suicide letter be consider a personal concern?

Newbie · Unread post by **Newbie** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:02 am

Thank you Aura. When you add additional personal concerns later on to the jar, do u open the petition/name packet and add it to the packet or just add it to the honey directly (i do not intend to use the honey from this jar..so that is not a problem).

If you don't want to cut the handkercief, look for a loose thread that you can pull out and then use.

you say that because that piece of clothing is dear to me, right? and not because cutting it cuts magic? Kindly confirm.

Finally, thank you, thank you...thank you very much for all the answers you gave till now.

Unread post by **aura** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:36 am

Hi becca7417,
yes - but be careful what kind of working you use that in due to the nature of the emotion used in the note's writing. Suicide notes are charged and unless you are doing destruction/death work, cast off evil work or healing work, they're best left alone. They're certainly not a first choice with respect to love work...

Hi newbie,
since the name packet will be all sticky and goopy, re-opening it is not advised, you can simply add the concerns to the jar. and yes, I say that because the clothing is dear to you. you can even cut a single hair into pieces to use the same concern in many workings. until the personal concern is included in a magical working like a honey jar, a packet, bottle spell or folded into a petition paper it's simply a personal concern, not magic. and cutting/scissors are also used in magic to break people apart, separate things, protect, cut away evil (cleansing) and more - thus they can be an integral part of work!

lisagirl1 · Unread post by **lisagirl1** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:16 pm

Im fairly new here to this forum.. I must add I really love this forum,, it is extremely helpful and useful! I have been told that if you could not feed a man menstral blood, urine that you could instead urinate on a man's picture as a form of control and state what it is you would like him to do..... Can you please explain this more in depth to me as I am not sure how accurately correct this is... Thanks so much!!! Lisa

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:41 am

lisagirl1: For us to "better explain it," as you asked above, we would have to know where you heard of this method. You say you were told...but by whom? This can be used for a controlling spell of sorts, yes certainly. Perhaps it would be more helpful to you if you spoke to the person who originally shared this work with you.

Apollo Dark · Unread post by **Apollo Dark** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:24 pm

Joseph Magnuson wrote:lisagirl1: For us to "better explain it," as you asked above, we would have to know where you heard of this method. You say you were told...but by whom? This can be used for a controlling spell of sorts, yes certainly. Perhaps it would be more helpful to you if you spoke to the person who originally shared this work with you.

I concure with this point. There are a lot of methods of work that can be distorted over a game of "telephone."

Best to ask questions with those that were the original source you got it from.

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:34 pm

Yes, if you do not have the middle name use the first and last. Think about including birthdays and addresses as well, when doing petitions and name papers.

heartexalted · Unread post by **heartexalted** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:35 pm

Joseph Magnuson wrote:Yes, if you do not have the middle name use the first and last. Think about including birthdays and addresses as well, when doing petitions and name papers.

Thank you!

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:05 pm

You're very welcome. Use what you got!

mommabear · Unread post by **mommabear** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:51 am

Howdy, In a woman's case if she has been married what last name do you use? The name she legally has which is the name of her Ex husband and children or her maiden or birth name. "Oh goodness, I would be in trouble if you say all last names she has went by since I have been married several times!"

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:45 pm

Some practitioners use the original maiden name because this was the woman's "original" name. Some use the more current full name.

heartexalted · Unread post by **heartexalted** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:51 pm

Joseph Magnuson wrote:Some practitioners use the original maiden name because this was the woman's "original" name. Some use the more current full name.

Momma Starr, in the past, on her radio show, has recommended using the original maiden name because it's the name that "God knows you by". Don't remember which episode, but it makes sense enough to me...

mommabear · Unread post by **mommabear** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:24 pm

Joseph and heartexalted, thank you for the replies. I have always wondered about that. For now I will use my maiden name on the honey jar candle. Thanks again and hope your weekends were wonderful.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:58 pm

I do neither of these. Because so many people have the same names, whether those be married names or maiden names, I prefer

A) to use the current legal name or all names the person has had string together -- Juanita Susan Adams White -- or

B) to use the old Jewish magical qualifier, "son of" or "daughter of" as an identifier, either in short form -- Bryan son of Lori -- or in full form -- Thomas Gerald Hall son Gerald Samuel Hall."

Unread post by **Laila** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:37 pm

Thanks, Miss Cat! This has bothered me for some time, and it helps having solid advice.

catherineyronwode wrote:I do neither of these. Because so many people have the same names, whether those be married names or maiden names, I prefer

A) to use the current legal name or all names the person has had string together -- Juanita Susan Adams White -- or

B) to use the old Jewish magical qualifier, "son of" or "daughter of" as an identifier, either in short form -- Bryan son of Lori -- or in full form -- Thomas Gerald Hall son Gerald Samuel Hall."

lisagirl1 · Unread post by **lisagirl1** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:54 am

Apollo & Joseph,
Ty for your replies.. I was told this from a person years ago, whom I Am no longer in contact with.. I was never given a full spell,, Just that you could control/ dominate someone by urinating on thier photo.. If in fact this is true Is it possible too get someone whom your not speaking with to talk to you,, such as an ex?? Thanks,, Lisa

Apollo Dark · Unread post by **Apollo Dark** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:45 pm

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Ty for your replies.. I was told this from a person years ago, whom I Am no longer in contact with.. I was never given a full spell,, Just that you could control/ dominate someone by urinating on thier photo.. If in fact this is true Is it possible too get someone whom your not speaking with to talk to you,, such as an ex?? Thanks,, Lisa

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lisagirl1 · Unread post by **lisagirl1** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:04 pm

Apollo,

I appreciate all your help.. Im actually placing an order here in a few minutes.. Thanks.. I think Im going to try the Follow me Boy Oil along with some appropriate herbs.. My next order Im def going to get the Return to me oil.. I have a few spells IM going to be working on.. Ty!!!!!! Lisa

Apollo Dark · Unread post by **Apollo Dark** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:55 pm

lisagirl1 wrote:Apollo,

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lisagirl1 · Unread post by **lisagirl1** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:56 pm

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snowbud · Unread post by **snowbud** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:59 am

Hello everyone,

I'm new to this

Is there anyone with knowledge and experience in putting one's own urine (female) in a man's coffee?

There's a man I've been seeing for almost 3 months now, and I had him round for dinner this past Thursday....I put my fresh urine in his coffee, which he drank all up.

Now I didn't use any rituals or chants or anything as I have no knowledge of this, so I would like to know if this will work in getting him to be closer to me, as a partner?

He is seeing someone for over a year, not very happy with her, this I know ... but he is still seeing us both. I want his full love and commitment.

Any advice would be appreciated

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ozmalicious · Unread post by **ozmalicious** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:13 pm

I am planning in making a love bottle (probablly honey based) and I wasn't able to get specific personal concerns of said target, but... and bare with me... I happened upon his used undies in the bathroom, and rather than getting caught trying to take them, I grabbed a tissue, and rubbed it on the inside of them (hankfully nothing gross looked to be the tissue, lol).

along with a name paper, does this seem adequate to capture his essence for the spell to take proper effect? (this person doesnt live close, and that chances of me being able to get something again are very slim.)

I'm probablly gonna use follow me boy oil in this...

Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:23 pm

ozmalicious wrote:I happened upon his used undies in the bathroom, and rather than getting caught trying to take them, I grabbed a tissue, and rubbed it on the inside of them ...
along with a name paper, does this seem adequate to capture his essence for the spell to take proper effect?

Sounds pretty good, yes. Good luck!

Miss Michaele

snowbud · Unread post by **snowbud** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:10 pm

Thank you Apollo.

I will have to think about this as finances etc......