Deities, Angels, Spirits, Saints: Questions and Answers

Caligula · Unread post by **Caligula** » Tue May 14, 2013 9:00 am

Thank you so much for this important information.

One wouldn't want to be rude to a God or goddess!

I booked a consultation with Dr. E.

Many blessings to you too

Primal_The_Learner · Unread post by **Primal_The_Learner** » Sun May 19, 2013 5:18 pm

I have my altar set up in my bedroom and I am thinking about adding a small statue of Pan. He is a nature woodland diety. I feel a connection with Pan.

And I may also add a picture of Osirus the egyptian black god above my altar on the wall. I have had a dream about Osiris and feel a connection.

Can I use them in my Hoodoo work?

And how does pictures and statues of dieties effect spells?

Do they enhance the spellwork?

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun May 19, 2013 5:29 pm

hello, Primal_The_Learner,

I have merged your question into the general thread on deities.

Hoodoo is primarily the folk magic of African American Protestant Christians. However, like all occultists, hoodoo practitioners have individual connections to Christianity and at times to other religions. It is highly uncommon to put another god before Jehovah, as this is a direct breaking of the 2nd Commandment. However, people have always played fast and loose with it -- sometimes saying that the literal commandment "Thou shalt have no other gods before me'" means "no others in front of me" -- that is, on the altar -- or "more important to you than I am" -- that is, in your heart. These are UNCONVENTIONAL ideas within Judaism and Christianity, but they have continued to appear.

There are also practitioners of hoodoo who make easy accommodation for deities perceived as "spirits." For instance, folks may feel comfortable working with a "lucky Buddha" without worshipping or venerating Buddha or joining the Buddhist religion. There is a reason for this: Buddha statues -- especially those depicting Hotei -- have often been marketed as "lucky" in the USA, inexpensive pieces are readily available, and since the obtaining of gambling luck is important in mingled African and Native American culture, Buddha images can frequently be found in hoodoo.

Pan and Osiris, however, have not become part of the popular spiritual repertoire of hoodoo. Again, there are reasons for this: They have primarily been presented to the public in archaeological or mythological contexts, there are no commonly-agreed-upon reasons to work with them (e.g. for luck, for love, for money, for fame), images of them are rare, statuary of them is high-priced, and knowledge of them is limited. So Pan and Osiris have never gained traction within hoodoo culture.

Remember, first and foremost, hoodoo is a magical practice, not a religious one. So if a "foreign God" (to use the common Judeo-Christian term) is going to be appealed to within a hoodoo context, there had better be a pretty strong magical reason. Simply longing for a deity to venerate ain't gonna cut it 'cause hoodoo is the magic of primarily Christian people and we already have God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit on board.

Feeling "connected to" a deity makes sense, but if the connection is to be a part of your personal hoodoo work, there ought to be a magical reason, because, again, hoodoo is a form of magic, not a form of religion. For example, if you want to do sex magic and feel that Pan is up for it, then go to Pan. I personally have appealed to the Hindu god Siva for sexual love (and received my dream come true!).

In the end, how you believe and the religion to which you adhere is YOUR business, and no one is intent on dictating rules to you, as long as you understand that as a lone world, so to speak, you will not be able to change the culture of hoodoo.

Do pictures and statues affect or enhance spells? Some will tell you yes, some will tell you no. This is not a Sunday School. You must make your own way through the thickets of religion.

Good luck.

Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Mon May 20, 2013 2:11 am

Primal_The_Learner wrote:I have my altar set up in my bedroom and I am thinking about adding a small statue of Pan. He is a nature woodland diety. I feel a connection with Pan.

And I may also add a picture of Osirus the egyptian black god above my altar on the wall. I have had a dream about Osiris and feel a connection.

Can I use them in my Hoodoo work?

And how does pictures and statues of dieties effect spells?

Do they enhance the spellwork?

As for me, these statues and pictures are a bit like Skype or an open window. You can address them or they may address you , prior to, during or after the spellwork. They may answer questions, help with the work or just add a comment or so depending on the communication between you and the spirit, deiety etc.

If you have to ask someone else if you can use them in your work, you are not ready to add them to your work. It means you have yet to learn divination and develop your spiritual perception a bit more. Adding spirits and deities blindly may be quite harmful to your work and your well being and is best to be avoided.

As a side note it would not then not be Hoodoo per se. Hoodoo is not general folk magic. It is a specific folk magic tradition that does not have a history or general work including include Pan or Osiris.

DreamCatcher · Unread post by **DreamCatcher** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:20 pm

I recently started setting lights for two people who asked for my assistance through a third party. These two clients live in different states and do not know each other. They both asked for help because they have an unwanted spirit in their home and wanted a protection light.

About two days before my first request, a spirit entered my home. I immediately contracted my rootworker and was told it was a spirit I needed to help in some way. It was attracted to my positive energy.

Does anyone else find it strange that the same thing my two clients were asking help for happened to me?

Has this ever happened to anyone?

Are there any LM products that can help?

Unread post by **Madame Pamita** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:27 am

Did you want to work with spirits this directly? If not, you might want to use some protection products and set up an altar for yourself before you begin working for others.

http://www.luckymojo.com/products-protection.html

DreamCatcher · Unread post by **DreamCatcher** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:55 pm

I dont work with spirits like this. Ive always had altars for St Michael for protection and Santisima Muerte tends to step in when I'm in danger as I honor her also but this was just strange. I do use FWP and have made a St Michael home protection mojo using LM products

Unread post by **ebonykawai** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:30 pm

Are you still required to give St. Expedite the offering if you got a fast answer, but the answer was no? I'm assuming not, since the request was not granted. I'm grateful for a fast answer, though. Thoughts?

sirjack206 · Unread post by **sirjack206** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:04 pm

As a general bit of advice if you are not trained to work with demons, djinn, elementals, etc. and feel one is attacking, trying to communicate, trade, etc. please ask someone who is. Things can get out of hand faster than you can imagine.

Unread post by **Jenny** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:38 pm

Well, to get in contact with Djinn one has to do 'Daira' or 'Deira', which is quite complicated ritual and not a joke. Very few people can actually have Djinn help them as they travel thru time gathering information on the subject you are interested in. Usually that person is Imam or a Muslim priest ,if you wish.
Problem is , that they can represent themselves as the ones on God's side when in actuality they're not... they will also do few favors to gain your confidence , of course you have to do something for them in return ... They can't tell you the future. They also envy humans perfection as it's created in God's image. God is perfect. That's why they try to mate with humans , don't ask me how - that's a long story, in order to get closer to their goal.I'll just say that in our belief mentally challenged children are one of the examples as a result of such relationship. If happens that a woman developed a relationship with Djinn, then she is never to find a human partner as he considers himself that, and makes sure she ends up alone every time.
If you're of pure soul and strong character they can't rule you but you rule them - basically. Show any ( mental ),weakness and you're toasted. If contact is made with True one walking in God's light then he is a 'friend' for life. If not then GOOD LUCK with that. There have been reports of people going crazy in split second... ending up on roof of some random house... losing everything and so on. I can't talk details here really but I do know what I'm talking about. Doing magic and ' fry a spell for or to someone' is common where I'm originally from. We are naturally on look out for such things and always make sure we clean house after guests, check couch and under the carpets... remove clothes from bathroom and combs with hair ... anything personal and we all know it here why, right ... Prime example is my aunt ... her and my mom are still in this so called magic war... once she came by and as she was leaving and reaching for her shoes and put something under the carpet... my mom caught on to it and quickly collected finger nails she put there and as she was saying bye to her - put those finger nails right back into my aunts pocket. Mom knows it - aunt knows it. It was so awkward. Every time she would call on a phone seconds after it would be a Mayhem in our house. Everybody would be fighting each other, nervous and ready to snap someone's head off. My mom would do some cleaning, then all of us had to pee in a bucket .. she would take some of that pee in a syringe , go to her house and spray her door with it saying something which I don't remember...
Anyway, be careful with Djinns. My 2 cents.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:34 am

As a person who actively works with djinn regularly, who is one of only a handful of people in the United States with an authentic lineage of djinn conjuring and who is an initiate and Shaykh in the magical traditions of North Africa and the Near East with ijazaa to perform and teach this work, I can tell you that the belief that handicap children or children born with mental defects are the offspring of djinn is bizarre and not common. This may be a regional belief that you have or one particular to your family, but not one that is espoused by any authentic lineage of rouhinyah, Al-Hikmah, nor Marabout.

To learn more about the djinn you can read the following article at AIRR written by yours truly:

http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/wiki/Djinn

Creativecat · Unread post by **Creativecat** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:32 pm

Hi,
I haven't been on this site for a long time..and was looking into calling on the elementals and spirits of the water.
I seem to be connected with them somehow and wanted to know more..this is strange for me coming from a christian
background but i guess now is the time to explore what they want..
Im treading gently but keep coming back to them somehow.
First thing i did was to make an altar and put candles, shells and yemanya..kinda luv her somehow..
anyways I would like to invoke the elementals spirits..

If anyone can gently guide me in the right direction would sure appreciate it..
in the meantime the rivers call...

Blessings to all x

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:25 pm

Hmmm, sounds like you've done plumb forgot what this forum is about since you've been gone.

We're all about American Southern hoodoo -- African American conjure, to be precise.

I think for your various "elementals' you'd be wanting to check into a European Neo-Pagan or Hermetic European forum. Not sure, but that's the usual place for those.

Good luck!

Unread post by **Jenny** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:05 pm

Yes, that is the belief among Muslims in my country. Actually Hajji's keep bringing that up.
Personally I don't see how would that happen so I can't say that I believe that part of it. I'm just sharing ( little but ), of what we've been told for generations about them. See, I've been told that even talking about them can 'call' and one would usually hear a crack or a knock or some kind of noise out of nowhere. It's them letting you know they're present.
I don't question your competency , knowledge and experience in this matter Ali, but I won't say any different from what I know and couple million people in my country. Might be wrong but that's the belief, unfortunately.
Bottom line, it's serious business and just like you brought up, not many people can - or are dealing with them.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:23 am

Call me, ConjureMan Ali. It is my proper title.

Keep your personal beliefs on this matter to yourself. This is a forum dedicated to Lucky Mojo products and while we allow for some leeway in discussing other folk practices, keep personal beliefs to yourself especially given such a sensitive and delicate subject as mental handicaps. I am sure you do not mean it come off that way, but it can be deemed quite offensive to anyone outside of your group of believers. Also be careful of speaking for an entire nation or religion, you would be making a grave mistake in doing so, especially as what you've espoused is not supported by orthodox Islam, traditional teachings about the djinn, nor any current of djinn tradition known world-wide.

Consider this a request from your friendly moderator. Keep yourself to the guidelines of the forum and offer something actually helpful--your post failed on both accounts.

ConjureMan Ali

sacredspiritualguide · Unread post by **sacredspiritualguide** » Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:05 pm

It is up to you whether or not you would like to work with this spirit. Sometimes protection work does not work against a particular spirit as the focus (and the intent) of your spell is to protect you from evil and unwanted spirits. A spirit in need of help is neither of those things, hence why they are able to enter your home without permission. If you no longer desire contact with this spirit demand it to leave and cast it out. Otherwise, ask what it needs from you and decide whther or not you want to help it.

Often times, doing spiritual work is like knocking on a door and then opening it. It cannot always be shut so easily!

MidsouthGuy · Unread post by **MidsouthGuy** » Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:27 pm

It's been quite a while since I posted here, so I thought I would stop in and share some personal insight into working with Rasputin. I have found that Grigori Rasputin is more than willing to heal and watch over anyone, although he is particularly fond of children and pretty women. He doesn't like sweets as offerings, but quality liquor and traditional Russian foods are appreciated, as are any Orthodox symbols and icons. Donations to the poor are a good service offering for Rasputin. He also likes having images of his wife and children, and prayers said for them. Don't call him "the Mad Monk", as he is not happy about being remembered as such, and speaking ill of children near a shrine to him is also a bad idea.

Hope this was helpful!

Unread post by **Mary Bee** » Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:20 pm

I would also do some Uncrossing baths and wash down your home, then set up some Fiery Wall of Protection on you and the property.

And, you can always get a reading to see who this spirit is and what they want. Khi Armand, of AIRR, is a talented spirit medium.

http://readersandrootworkers.org/index. ... Khi_Armand

Good luck!

Janis · Unread post by **Janis** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:46 pm

Greetings to all,

Well, I have a long time experience dealing with spirits like Eshus, but something have been bothering me lately. I have been waking every night at 3 am (or around) for many different reasons ( a mosquito, a noise, going to the bathroom, a nightmare...) for a few months now. I feel there is someone "visiting", but not a human ghost or ancestor. I used camphor squares and salt in the house and also incenses, oils, candles, psalms and cleansing baths (Fiery Wall of protection oil, Mojo Hand etc) but I am still being awake every single night. Nothing wrong is going on, although I have nightmares about being attacked very frequently but my life is not bad... things are normal (yet). In one of my dreams I have been persecuted by a hooded man in a dark place but a Djinn came (he had lizard eyes) and gave me ACACIA wood sticks (burning smoke) to protect me. Birds come to my window in a bizarre behavior, staying in my varanda silently for minutes, and some of them are Hawks (I live in a high building in Rio de Janeiro). I would like to know if someone knows why I am waking up at this very time every night and if possible, how can I put an end to this. I take chamomile, passion fruit and tilia teas to try to have a full night sleep but it doesn't work. I tryed Valeriana (Vandal Root), Salix Alba (white Willow), Crataegus Oxyacantha (Hawthorn) too, with no results. I do not like to take industrial medicine and honestly I know it is not a health issue. If someone could please help I would be grateful.

I study Hoodoo for many years and am proud to be an authorized LMCC reseller in Brazil.

Thanks, J.

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:04 pm

Good Evening, Janis,
I read your post and then went back to all the posts on this thread. Have you also done this? There's some very good advice posted.
I don't know anything about Djinn but Conjureman Ali is an expert and HIGHLY suggest that you contact him.
Although many things come to mind about what you've said, the mere fact that the Djinn showed up makes me step back to this situation and I really don't want to make any UNeducated guesses.
Take Care of yourself and good luck to you

Jill41 · Unread post by **Jill41** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:48 pm

I'm hoping that this is the right section for this question. I had an interesting idea that I wanted to explore and I was looking for advice on it. I've been having several unpleasant run ins with co workers and it's been emotionally driving me down.

Some of my ideas were using: FIERY WALL OF PROTECTION OIL, possibly HOT FOOT OIL, and BANISHING OIL.

However I was considering invoking a spirit that could perhaps come with me to work that could act as my protector so that whenever a co worker crossed me the spirit could step in and set the situation straight.

It was just an idea and I don't have to follow through with it. I can always use some oils and some floor wash and lay some tricks around work.

Thanks,

Jill

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:06 pm

Good Evening Jill41,

I personally would not attempt to invoke any entity that I didn't know completely. That could get you into big trouble.

What I do is ask either my ancestors, my spirit guides, my guardian angels, an Archangel, a Saint, or God for help. I would ask them for help at work (if I were having problems like you are having). Those are the only entities that I trust completely.

But I just can't see any of them just: "Jumping in" at an exact moment (unless it was an emergency) anytime there's a problem.

When you use these oils, and spells that you had mentioned, you are indeed invoking help. That's what the products and spells are for. They, along with prayer, act as facilitators for your requests.

Take Care and wishing you the best

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:11 pm

"Be with me now" is a powerful invocation -- but is usually used, as Aida said, with a spirit you know and trust.

In addition to those she named -- "ancestors, spirit guides, guardian angels, an Archangel, a Saint, or God" -- i would add the spirits of the friendly dead who worked in the same career field.

For instance, a police chief's spirit may help the new rookie, or a head nurse may help the newly hired nurse.

This sort of connection would be established through the use of grave site offerings and carrying the graveyard dirt with you.

Jill41 · Unread post by **Jill41** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:19 pm

Um I never said anything about a demon. In fact I was considering calling forth my dad who died Feb 26th of 2012 so he could stand by my side and keep me safe.

Jill

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:07 am

Jill,

We never said anything about a demon either.

The rude and accusatory portion of your post was edited out.

Thank you

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:57 am

Jill41,

The very first post in this thread is one in which someone asks about invoking a demon -- but you should not mistake four years of posts about a wide variety of spiritual entities for a reply to YOUR post.

This forum functions best when people understand that similar queries are posted repeatedly and are grouped in threads relating to similar interests.

Your post was merged into a long-standing thread containing all requests for information about summoning ANY kind of spiritual entity.

Aida stated that in your case, as described by you, she recommended "ancestors, spirit guides, guardian angels, an Archangel, a Saint, or God." I added "the friendly dead who worked in the same career field."

The spirit of your dad would be an excellent choice, and, as i mentioned above, this would be, in the hoodoo tradition, embodied in the form of graveyard dirt.

None of us mentioned demons -- because you had asked for information about a helpful spirit, and most people consider demons to be at worst destructive and at best untrustworthy..

But i would like to add that there are demonolators among us who would indeed consider demons to be helpful spirits -- as helpful to them as angels are to conventional relgionists. Magic encompasses a wide variety of beliefs and practices, after all.

Please remain as calm and respectful to us as we are to you. Thanks.

For more on the use of graveyard dirt in working with the spirits of the dead in the hoodoo tradition, please see this page from my free online book "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice:

"Graveyard Dirt" -- particularly the section titled "Graveyard Dirt for Protection":
http://luckymojo.com/graveyarddirt.html

Good luck!

Unread post by **silverpony** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:13 pm

To the best of my ability to determine it, my question best fits under this category. My apologies if it should have gone in another thread.

Situation: I would like to hear my spirit companions and guardian angel clearly, because I don't right now, and never have. I do get impressions from them, but they're very nearly always emotional states and nudges, rarely ever anything more specific than that. I'm not sure if it's that I've got a block, or if it's simply a lack of talent. I am hoping to hear them unmistakably clearly, as I am quite concerned about mistaking my own hopeful projections for real communication from them.

What work and supplies would you recommend, please? Thank you!

Unread post by **Power** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:14 pm

Greetings silverpony,

I would try some Master Key, Anise Seed, Psychic Vision, and Guardian Angel products.

http://www.luckymojo.com/psychicvision.html
http://herb-magic.com/anise-seed.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/guardianangel.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/masterkey.html

Hope this helps

Unread post by **aura** » Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:36 am

You may also want to consider a magical coaching session with an AIRR member in order to learn spirit communication techniques. The workers who do such type of contact-work can be found here: http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/wi ... Mediumship; as well as most who work in the Christian Tradition: http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/wi ... _Tradition

Unread post by **silverpony** » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:10 am

Thank you both so much for the recommendations. They're very helpful.

jespinoza · Unread post by **jespinoza** » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:48 pm

I purchased LM oils and candles and i wanted to know if it is appropriate to place my hoodoo candles next to my El Ekeko Doll or should i keep a alter just for him and put my hoodoo things in another alter.

I have been searching the intenet for this answer but could not find anything.

I just don't want to disrespect the powers of my LM products or make my el ekeko doll angry by placing these items by him.

If anyone knows anything about the el ekeko doll mixed with hoodoo magic i would apreciate the information

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:45 pm

jespinoza,

Many traditional African American hoodoo practitioners of my youth used to put a "Lucky Buddha" (that is, a Chinese Hotei) on their money altars. No disrespect was intended toward the Buddha -- nor was the practitioner in any way indicating a lessened identification as a Black Christian. The Buddha was seen as "lucky for money" and kept as such.

Ekeko, the Peruvian lucky equivlent to the Lucky Buddha is obviously an indigenous figure, but greatly modified to appear as a contemporary Peruvian man bearing gits and lucky charms -- a sort of Santa Claus or Lucky Buddha. In no way would mixing and matching such imagery on a money altar be disrespectful, in my opinion. It would be highly unusual to find such a figure in the home of an old-time or down-home Black conjure doctor -- but merely because Peruvian imports are not widely available all around the U.S. South.

In fact, i will venture to speculate that had there been a huge influx of Peruvian construction workers building the railroads in the US in the 19th century (instead of the huge influx of Cantonese construction workers building the railroads), and if these hypothetical Peruvians had built and populated "Perutown" ghettos next to the Black ghettos of the Bay Area (instead of there being Chinatown ghettos next to the Black ghettos), then in 1962, when i was invited into the homes of local practitioners, i would have been delighted to see the happy Ekeko statues on the altars of African American root doctors of Oakland, California, and we would not be having this conversation!

P.S. For those interested in the use of the Lucky Buddha in contemporary African American folk magic, these two pictures tell the tale: The practitioner who built this altar is Ms. Robin of AIRR, who specializes in money magic and gambling luck. Her mother, raised in the Bay Area, and also a practitioner, is about my age.

First, the altar:

Second, Ms. Robin:

Good luck!

Unread post by **Khi Armand** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:22 pm

Hi Silverpony,

It might be helpful to consider that you have a "spiritual court," or a group of spirits that walk with you - often an amalgamation of ancestors, archetypal ancestral helping spirits, and others both deceased and Upperworld (saints, angelic entities, etc.) that have chosen to walk with you in this lifetime.

Indeed, a reader who specializes in Mediumship at AIRR can definitely help you to know the spirits that walk with you in your court, what they are here to teach and help you with, and how to best serve and work with them.

Blessings,
Khi

Janis · Unread post by **Janis** » Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:12 pm

Unbelievable.I was writting this and when I pressed "preview" it vanished...

Thank you, Miss Aida for your kind words. Sorry for taking so long to reply but my computer broke down just after I posted this question, we had a tropical storm in Rio that might have damaged my computer. It was shutting down after switched on, not working anymore. I had to buy another one. Of course I could have gone to a Lan House but I am not a fan of technology to that point. I use internet mainly for business or studies. I own an old style physical shop. 
Abut the Djinn, yes, I will try to talk to ConjurerMan Ali, I have great respect for his work. And I did research the Forum but couldn’t find anything regarding the awakening at this specific time (3 am). I tried Camphor Squares, Salt and banishing but it didn’t work. I even thought about using the “Tibetan Purging Incense Powder” but I thought it could be taken as an attack, and I do not want this. Whatever is here is not hostile to me. I even think it is somehow protective.
Last Friday I decided to clean the house with the help of a friend. I used Lemongrass (Citronella oil, Saltpeter and Eucalyptus Oil, in water, a floor wash). We cleaned everything, from the floors to my furniture, and we fumigated the house with asafetida and “palo santo”. Things were fine until we got to the kitchen, the last place to be cleaned. As soon as we started, the shelf were I kept my crystals (wine glasses, liquor bottles, fine china, tea cups…) fell down broken and there was glass everywhere. Although it may be seen as a bad omen, I felt a release. And indeed things in my life that seemed blocked finally worked… business/papers, etc. I also heard that an old time enemy had serious trouble at the very same time it happened, just after a toucan bird perched his fence (toucan is considered the South American crow).
I keep awakening at 3 AM, and lately I have had dreams about sand dunes, shooting stars, the sea (stormy, shaken), ocean caves and sigils carved in stone. The hawks now are nesting on the penthouse of my building, just over my head, and in the sunny mornings they go squawking and flying around noisily, 6 or 7 of them. I know very little about the Djinn but I do know some of them have the ability to shape shift into birds just like the Eshus do. I do not know what is happening but I feel is something odd… not necessarily bad.
Please let me know what you think if you want, I believe everybody has experiences and valuable views to share and enlighten… your opinion is very welcomed. Any help or guidance would be appreciated.
Best regards,
J.

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:53 pm

Hi, Janis,
Again, if this is all related to the Djinn, I just don't want to give you any ideas of what I think because I could be 100% wrong.
The 3:00 am does indeed deem mystical. The other things that have been happening to you (after cleansing) seem favorable. However, I don't know Djinn and I don't think anyone else will touch this except for the expert, Conjureman Ali.
I am so sorry that I couldn't be much more help to you. Just afraid to give you bad advice!!! And no advice is better than bad advice: right?
Take Care and wishing you the best

Unread post by **Papa Newt** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:55 am

I also strong encourage you, Janis, to contact Conjureman Ali.

He is the only A.I.R.R. member, as far as I know, who work with Djinn.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:58 pm

Janis if by Eshus you are referring to the Exu of Quimbanda and Umbanda, then fortunately I am familiar with them as well as Djinn as in addition to being a djinn conjurer I am also a Tata of the Afro-Brazilian tradition of Quimbanda and work with Exu extensively.

Djinn to appear in the guise of animals and acacia does feature prominently in North African magical practices, but not as a cleansing agent, but rather to strengthen spiritual contact and communication. Furthermore, 3 AM is associated with a variety of spiritual activity. In Afro-Brazilian traditions, 3 AM is a time associated with kiumbas, in djinn tradition, 3 AM is one of the times along with Midnight, Sunset, and right before Sunrise when djinn are most active, and in some Christian sects, 3 AM is significant for spiritual and mystical activity. The latter has been made popular by various exorcist movies.

For cleansing, I do certainly encourage the use of Camphor.

Sharon Athena · Unread post by **Sharon Athena** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:22 pm

What color candle would I use when praying to St Nicholas II the Passion-Bearer?

Yeah, I get that he's probably not a saint anyone on this forum's familiar with BY THAT NAME, but y'all may remember him as Tsar Nicholas II, the last Tsar of Russia.

Who he is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_II_of_Russia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonizati ... e_Romanovs

I have a personal, past-life connexion with him and because of that, he's a patron saint of mine (along with St Michael, whose feast day's my birthday, St Dymphna, the patroness of the mentally ill -- I have medicated Bipolar II -- St Patrick, St Columcille, St Maximillian Kolbe, et cetera).

I want to have him on my Family altar, but can't figure out what would be the best color for candles, cloths, etc, for him specifically. Thanks in advance for any and all answers.

PS: Family is a ginormous issue for me, as a lot of the magickal work I do revolves around protecting what family I have left.

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:17 pm

Hello again, Sharon Athena,
When in doubt, use white. ALWAYS.
Thanks for telling us that he became a Saint. Didn't know that!!
Take Care

Janis · Unread post by **Janis** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:42 pm

Hi Miss Aida! Thank you so much for the reply; you are very sweet and kind. No need to be sorry, I understand your position and agree.  But is always nice to talk to another person that has the sensibility to comprehend what we mean. Sharing experiences with respect and knowing people is always very pleasant. Perhaps we can engage in deeper conversations on other topics soon!
Kindest regards!!

Janis · Unread post by **Janis** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:47 pm

ConjurerMan Ali, thank you for your words. Yes, I am talking about the Exus of the Quimbanda/Umbanda!! My respects to you, Tata, “Mojuba”. My husband knows the author Nicholaj de Mattos Frisvold, he just wrote a review on my husband’s book about the Goetia and the Stellar Tradition. We know he is also related to Quimbanda. I work with the Exus since early age; I am Brazilian and initiaded in Candomble and Umbanda, named “Ogunté”. I am fascinated with them, and lately noticed in my research that some of them actually have lots in common with the Djinn (People of the Woods for instance). Having said that, I didn’t know this time at night was related to them, as I am not so familiar with Quimbanda (Kiumbanda). Usually Midnight is called “the Hora Grande”, the power time to connect to Exu, so I never made a connection between 3 AM to Exus directly… Very interesting.
I realized this contact was of a friendly kind, that’s why I didn’t want to banish it away. In the other hand, my mother-in-law wants to separate me from my husband and performs workings with kiumbas and eguns to do so… Cemetery workings, so it makes a lot of sense if there are kiumbas around awaking me up. Or Djinns trying to warn me about them, what seem to be more the case. Last night I dreamed of a green hummingbird landing on my finger, in a Park. It was small, light and delicate, very real sensation. In the dream I said “Thank You Djinn, I always wanted this to happen” looking up at the tall trees. I felt protected and blessed. I am wearing every day around my neck a “Fiery Wall of Protection Mojo Bag” from LM, fed at every full moon with the dressing oil, and have Camphor Squares on every corner of my home, basil too. But the visitor does not go away. It is ok by me, I just wanted to be able to sleep a whole night without being awaken, and that’s all. So sometimes I get up and say out loud “would you please let me sleep” and go back to bed… no big deal. But I was wondering why it came after me, why it is here trying this contact, I know it is not an Exu… it is more diaphanous… Exus are densest. I am very interested in understanding. I don’t know much about the Djinn, but I was thinking the other day on it and remembered that last year I had a trip to a wild beach in Brazil and that I entered an Ocean Cave in a low tide time with a group so maybe I could have drawn the attention of one of them there? There was a cat on that beach what I found extremely odd and I went petting the cat… even took pictures of it because it wasn’t bothered by the waves breaking near it and everybody found it cute… I mean, there are Exus from the Sea, the Beach, etc, so maybe the same goes for the Djinn?? They are related to the desert, but some deserts are near the shore… it seems to have liked me for some reason, followed and decided to stay… and staying it decided to become a guardian… would it be dangerous? Anyway, sorry for this immense post. It feels good to be able to talk about something and not feeling weird.
Thank you again,
Best,
J.

Janis · Unread post by **Janis** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:52 pm

Thank You, Papa Newt, I will talk to him about it. I am very happy to be here among you in this Forum.
Best Regards!

Mia · Unread post by **Mia** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:09 pm

Hie there , I don't know if anyone can help , this is my 3rd week of petitioning st martha , initially , everything was positive , I felt immediately calmer about a certain issue I was having at home and I was less depressed for the first time in months and revived immediately after , I felt her energy every time I prayed and the past few weeks I have been having a few lucky coincidences financially (I know she is not for drawing money but I did ask her to help me little by little everyday ) we are not talking big sums but it all just seemed too convenient to happen by itself but my major petition to solve a problem with an ex , I haven't seen much movement with though I believe that she has calmed a troublesome situation with some trouble some neighbours
Now my question is that last night I had a strange dream , I was holding a tiny little rag doll ( thumb size ) like like a worry doll and it was all dressed in red and white , I was talking to it then I had to place it on top of a wardrobe , every time I did this it fell , so I shouted across the room to this man who came and took the doll from me, he said we need to have a look at what is happening
He threw the doll into the grate ( I think the fire was on ) and it popped out and he repeated this 3 times and the same thing kept happening ,then he turned to me and said this woman says no! 3 times I have asked her and 3 times she has said no! In the
Dream I knew who the woman was but I did not immediately think st martha , then he continued to say if you continue petitioning her "for this " something bad will happen .
And then I woke up
Now I have reason to believe that st martha agreed to work with me because of the change in me and what has happened in my life since I started petitioning her , too many little miracles and happy coincidences through out since , also weirdly enough I have never been a coffee drinker but since I started petitioning her I am constantly craving coffee and I would rather sit/ sleep
On the floor than be on a bed or couch , to me I thought all this meant I was in touch with her but this dream has left me questions , I however feel her presence when I pray one day I was so overcome suddenly out if nowhere during prayer I felt a comfort and love that made me so sad , euphoric and warn inside at the same time as I was talking about a relative s health problems among other things I was asking her to dominate now there are three petitions not yet granted and 6 Tuesdays left to go
I don't know what this dream means or wether it's just a random dream , I have tried to get in touch with root workers to no avail as there aren't many in the uk , I searched on the Internet and so some in America that I know nothing about and most seemed ridiculously over priced and considering my financial circumstances at the moment it's out of question any way , now what I am wondering is if anyone has any advice for me pertaining this situation ? any at all or any insights will be more than appreciated , also if anyone knows a reasonably priced root worker /reader that does international work as I said I am not particularly rich at the moment so please don't suggest someone who is overpriced , thank you for reading and Blessings to you all
Mia

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:48 pm

Hello, Mia,
I'm sorry but it really would be close to impossible to figure out any of this without a reading. There's too many conflicting messages in what's happening to you and what you're dreaming.
I can suggest our readers and root workers (members of AIRR) to you.
Take a look and see which one you think it good for you: http://readersandrootworkers.org.
I wish you the very best.

Mia · Unread post by **Mia** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:04 pm

Miss Aida wrote:Hello, Mia,
I'm sorry but it really would be close to impossible to figure out any of this without a reading. There's too many conflicting messages in what's happening to you and what you're dreaming.
I can suggest our readers and root workers (members of AIRR) to you.
Take a look and see which one you think it good for you: http://readersandrootworkers.org.
I wish you the very best.

Thank you very much for your answer , I have to say I an very confused as well and thank you for the link pertaining to root readers , I will have a reading with one of them and then tell you how I get on any particular recommendations?

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:24 am

Good Morning, Mia,
They're all excellent.
You just have to browse their specialties, relax, and let spirit guide you as to which one to chose.
Wishing you the very best.
Take care.

whistler2 · Unread post by **whistler2** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:06 am

I have a difficult situation on my hands right now and am petitioning a few saints for their assistance. Namely, St. Rita, St. Anthony, St. Jude and St. Expedite.

While i really need help in this matter, I am curious if what I am doing is incorrect. I posted sometime earlier, a novena to the Thirteen Blessed Souls, which of course, asks Jesus and his 12 disciples for intercession. So with that, I am thinking it shouldn't be wrong to ask multiple saints for help with the same problem. However, does it appear I do not have faith in any one saint in particular to assist me? In my mind, I am not doubting their ability to help; it is more like sending out your resume to multiple companies and hope for a call back from one of them. I have had some interesting signs so far, but no movement yet.

Has anyone had any experience with something similar to this? Or would I be better off petitioning them one at a time, and moving on to the nextifthe first one doesn't wish to help?

I am using LM's all saints and fast luck oils on the candles. I am thinking about having MISC light some candles for me as well.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:48 am

Are you saying you have asked Jesus and the 12 disciples for their intercession? ...did you receive a response?

whistler2 · Unread post by **whistler2** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:51 pm

The first time I did the novena to the Thirteen Blessed Souls, it worked. The second time for a different matter, it didn't. I opted not to work that novena for this issue.

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:11 pm

Hello, Whistler,
Every root worker has different ways of achieving the same goals but by different means.
I prefer praying to one at a time and establish a relationship with them. When I pray to more than one at a time, it seems that just words are coming out of my mouth and not the emotions (nor the feeling of anyone understanding my emotions). Just seems too formal for me (and you need informality to establish a "heart-felt" mutual bond.
That's just me.
Hope this helps
Take Care

whistler2 · Unread post by **whistler2** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:31 pm

Thanks Miss Aida. I think St. Rita is "speaking" the most to me right now. I feel more drawn to her. But it could just be my intuition going haywire as I am a little bit stressed.
But thanks for taking the time to reply.

P.s.. at the time of my posting this, your post count is at 666. Kinda weird..

Kremlornsworth · Unread post by **Kremlornsworth** » Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:27 pm

Are spirit fetishes utilized in hoodoo work? By spirit fetishes I basically mean a spirit "house" or vessel that a spirit is contained in and available to work on behalf of the practitioner. I've been studying some of the ATRs (African Traditional Religions) and 99% of them require initiation before working with their spirit systems. The few that don't do offer instructions for creating these spirit "houses"/fetishes but they require hard-to-find ingredients such as dried scorpions or illegal (at least here in the States) ingredients such as dried hummingbirds. Does anyone have any information on creating a spirit fetish in the hoodoo style (assuming spirit fetishes are used in hoodoo)? I'm looking for specific rituals and/or methods. Everything from how to develop a relationship with the spirit, needed items and ingredients, etc. Thanks in advance.

Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:14 pm

The closest thing you'll find in down-home conjure is Blackhawk in a Bucket, who has a very specialized mission with those who work with him.

Start here:

Black Hawk Indian Spirit Guide Supplies Questions & Answers
black-hawk-indian-spirit-guide-supplies ... t2690.html

Miss Michaele

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:17 am

Whistler!
If someone is calling you (as is St. Rita), PLEASE listen and don't misinterpret your intuition. Experience tells us that when we ignore our intuition, we regret it in the long run.
AS far as that 666 goes........
OH NO!!!! LOL !!!!
Seriously, I remember a long time ago, the Pope came to our State. The Lottery number that night was: 666.
I view this as a sign that goodness and righteousness is at hand and that the "other side" is trying to scare us into running away. So, this is just reinforcement to me that you ought to work with one entity AND (as you had stated), it's St Rita.
Take care!!!!

Kremlornsworth · Unread post by **Kremlornsworth** » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:17 am

Thanks I'll check that out!

Unread post by **Miss Phoenix** » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:23 am

Kremlornsworth, there is a reason that certain religious traditions -- unlike folk magic -- require initiation and training before working with the spirits. This isn't work to take on lightly. It is important to know what you are working with and have the background to help you do it properly.

That being said, as MissMichawle pointed out, there really isn't this type of working in Hoodoo under the name "spirit fetishes," but both helpful and destructive spirits are called into many types of work, from mojo hands and blue bottles on bottle trees, to graveyard dirt spells and Black Hawk in a bucket. She gave you a great resource to start looking at.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:24 am

There is indeed a tradition of working with spirit vessels in hoodoo. You certainly won't hear them called "fetishes" though. This way of working is not entirely common, but you will find them strongly among the people of South Carolina and Georgia. A spirit--usually of a spirit of the dead that was a powerful ally--was placed in a jar or bottle. There are also some records of ancestral houses. To read more about this type of work, may I suggest the Black Folder by Missionary Independent Spiritualist Church, edited by catherine yronwode. Inside you'll find an article on Supernatural Protection by yours truly which mainly discusses the traditional notion of spirit traps, with some discussion of spirit homes and vessels.

This is powerful work and though forgotten in today's internet age and by newer workers, still is taught by some of the older practitioners.

Another common practice was to craft a "body" for a spirit through the making of a doll. These dolls were then powerful allies of the root doctor and would be called upon to carry out work. Often these dolls were more permanent than the usual clay, or wax. A good example of this was discussed during the Cursing Colloquium during the 2012 Hoodoo Heritage Folk Festival.

Please note, that while these spirit vessels, ancestor homes, and spirit dolls are descendants of the tradition of nkisi, minkisi, and god-making found in Congolese sorcery which was then transmitted into the Prenda and Assentamento of Palo and Quimbanda respectively, that common origin does not mean that they are the same. The latter are the prerogative of the priests of certain religions. The hoodoo techniques are also quite different, but share the same origin.

Luckbewithme876 · Unread post by **Luckbewithme876** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:40 pm

What are the usual weaknesses and methods of protection from Djinn? I've heard that they don't like salt and iron, and I've heard some say they don't like silver either. I ask not because I'm worried about one, but I'm writing a book series and want to make sure to do my homework.

Luckbewithme876 · Unread post by **Luckbewithme876** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:08 am

How would one go about finding a Familiar? And how would one make sure their Familiar and spirit guide isn't a bad spirit trying to trick me? One method I've read in the Bible that can be used to see if a spirit isn't evil would be to ask it if Christ came in human form (can't remember what passage it's from though). While this would work for me, but this wouldn't work for a non-Christian for obvious reasons. Is there another/better way to judge a spirit's benevolence or trickiness?

How would one make a spirit house for their Familiar? One method I've read is to make an Alraun, but that seems to be more animistic, European-based rather than Conjure-based.

Unread post by **BrotherChristopher** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:19 pm

I'm guessing by familiar, you mean a familiar spirit. At least in old documentation describing "familiars" that were often seen by people who identified someone as a witch, the familiar was often in the shape of animal, like a cat, rabbit/hare, or a bird, often bird with black feathers, but not always.

A good guide for getting familiar with spirits is Communing with the spirits by Martin Coleman. His directions are succinct, and his advice in dealing with spirits is very practical. It is listed in the Lucky Mojo shop

$22.00 BOO-SPI-COMM Communing With The Spirits by Martin Coleman

His method of ascertaining whether a spirit is true or helpful is whether they produce the desired results for you, whatever it is you are desiring to know or gain. If those results are not forth coming, or verifiable (when doing divination) then your spirit is a trickster. He also gives several directions and recipes for keep trickster spirits away.

In the gifts of Spirits describe the Paul the Apostle in Corinthians, I believe he mentions both being able to see spirits and also being able to know if they are good or evil. If you have that gift, you're ready to go. You could also develop that gift by using Psychic Vision and Clarity products to help you see, while using Spirit Guide (or Indian Spirit Guide) products to help draw the desired helpful and familiar spirit to you.

Once you have established a relationship with the spirit, then you can think about creating a more focused point of interaction for you and the spirit, ie a spirit house. All spirits have their own preferences, just like people. It's better to form a relationship with the spirit (like you would with a person) and ask the spirit what it wants to facilitate this relationship. It can be very simple, to something very complex, it all depends upon the spirit in question.