Too Many Spells, Spell Burn-Out, Spell Overload

[Miss Aida]

Hello, Luckbewithme876 ,

I personally like to work one person at a time. Unless we are talking about a group of people that you need to like you (if you're at a job), or a family to accept you.

Yes, you can ask a Saint for more than one thing at a time but I personally don't like prescribing this tactic if you're not experienced with working with them.

Wishing you the best

[Luckbewithme876]

Hello, Luckbewithme876 ,

I personally like to work one person at a time. Unless we are talking about a group of people that you need to like you (if you're at a job), or a family to accept you.

Yes, you can ask a Saint for more than one thing at a time but I personally don't like prescribing this tactic if you're not experienced with working with them.

Wishing you the best

Thanks, that answers my question.

Would they think I'm demanding too much, or something? And do I need a separate offering for each request?

[Miss Aida]

Hello, Luckbewithme876,

I honestly don't know what the Saints might think.

But, yes, you would give separate offerings.

Again, I would ask for one thing at a time if it were me.

Take care

[TheBestest]

Here is a new question. Ok I really DO NOT understand this running of candles business... like AT ALL. Today I made a picture jar (That I am VERY PROUD OF) and lit the remainder of my Love Me vigil and started a Compelling vigil. Something came over me tonight and said "Do Follow me Boy!" but I felt weak and tired so I thought I should move forward tomorrow and do it. First off due to my not doing it TONIGHT, I am afraid of weakening results for this tough situation. Thirdly, this is where I get confused. Some places I have read says to do the running candle thing lighting more than one candle at once. Other places says light vigils one at a time. Please someone explain running candles to me for the MILLIONTH time and how it would help a stubborn love situation. I have had this explained before but still don't get! Is it all candles at once or one day after another?? Forgive me I have a brain fart on a daily basis smh.

[Miss Aida]

Hello, TheBestest,

A "Run of candles" is one after another.

If MISC does it, they will give you a candle report after each one.

Take care

[MissMichaele]

Here is a new question. Ok I really DO NOT understand this running of candles business... like AT ALL.

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First off due to my not doing it TONIGHT, I am afraid of weakening results for this tough situation.

Not necessarily. Some folks learn from experience to be very strict about timing. Others learn, from experience, that timing is not so crucial ... for them. So try that Follow Me Boy candle, even though it's later than you were led to do it. You might be pleasantly surprised.

Thirdly, this is where I get confused. Some places I have read says to do the running candle thing lighting more than one candle at once.

A "run" of candles means a series. Some like to be absolutely sure a flame is burning absolutely all the time until the whole series is ended; they do this by lighting the next candle just before the previous one runs out -- think of it as an overlap.

This is quite different from doing what Henri Gamache does, lighting a number of candles at the same time in one spell. That's not really a series at all. It's an interesting way to work, so you might want to look at The Master Book of Candle Burning sometime -- but now we're off topic.

Other places says light vigils one at a time.

That's what a run of candles is. Whether you "overlap" them or not is up to you.

You may be getting confused by people supporting a series of candles with a different run of candles going on at the same time. Or just an "extra" candle of a different kind as needed, alongside the candle run. Don't worry about that.

Just remember: a run of candles is a series of the same kind of candle burned one after the other, possibly starting the next candle just before the first one goes out.

Hope this helps,

Miss Michaele

[TheBestest]

Thanks Miss Michaels for clearing all of this up for me. I hope I can finally pull my target 100% in now

[TheBestest]

I'm curious and please forgive me if this is in the wrong place. How long should you wait to see results from a Vigil before restarting the work over again? Do you still follow the 3 days, 3 weeks and 3 months principle with vigils?

[JayDee]

The bestest,

Vigil candles can be set in runs. they give insight to the situation as it burns and also burn on the situation adding that pressure. If you have a difficult situation, and the first candle came back sooty then I would consider a run ..or if a court case I would set a run from now till the day of court.

[Ruby74]

Hi Everyone,

I was browsing topics related to working multiple spells for different intentions and came across a conversation comparing comprehensive spell work vs. what sounds like a compulsion. Initially I wanted information on the space between intentions but I'd like to get some clarity on this.

Some highlights:

Obsession is for the victim, not the master.

Agreed.

so where do you draw the line between thorough and obsessive?

Good question.

Thorough is when you are working on the situation from different angles towards the same goal. I mean covering all your basis such as affecting someone by laying tricks, lighting a candle, etc, but then giving time for the work to take...is thorough.

Obsessed comes in several different ways. Trying the SAME spell work over and over again on a situation that is not getting movement. Doing work on a situation for years and perhaps many months without getting any movement at all, and just not simply letting it go. A reading that indicates the situation cannot be rectified given the circumstances but still working on that.

People figure that if they are not lighting a candle, laying down tricks, or working with a baby doll, etc. that the magic is not working. That shows lack and faith within the work and craft of rootwork.

I think the difference between obsession and being "thorough" is all in the mindset. If I had to define a difference I would do it in relation to the difference between being focused and determined versus letting the situation become the center of your existence; the difference between approaching something with confidence and determination and wallowing in anxiety.

Either approach your work with confidence and faith, able to let the spirits do their job, or let someone else handle it for you who has a steadier heart.

"Wallowing in anxiety" is restlessness due to doubt?

You are look at quantity, but that is not really important. You want to look at the quality. You can cast as many spells as you like till you get what you want (so long as your intentions are clear and focused). The importance is the quality of the work you are doing.

Are you focused?
Do you have good personal concerns?
What type of quality products are you using?
Are you able to effective direct your will in a prayerful fashion?
And so on and so forth.

Repeating the same spell again is immaterial if it lacks depth.

I read the quotes above and I read the quotes below and while I understand, I am puzzled at the same time. I have confidence and faith and do not think about the spellwork itself after I am done, but I do think about the ultimate goal and daydream. I don’t stew over when & how things will manifest, but I do have happy thoughts about the final results. Like, I want to go back to school & often fantasize about sitting in a classroom & I actively look at syllabuses online, and I want to move to a new home so I look at pictures of apartments & houses and plots of land & furniture/design. Is something like Pinterest obsessing?

It is pretty common for workers to do several spells towards the same goal, like a honey jar and a moving candle spell for love getting, or a break up bottle and a break up vigil light for breaking a couple up.

It is true that different kinds of spells appeal more to different kinds of people, and it is also true that a certain kind of spell is more appropriate to a specific situation. However, I think that the problem of obsessing over spell work can come up no matter what kind of work you are doing. Worrying about the candle burning down your house is one thing, worrying about the spell's outcome though is something different. I was taught to do the work and not look back--in other words, have faith in the work that you are doing. Accept that the answer to your wish or desire may well be "no." But then proceed with all the strength and faith you can muster on the assumption that your work will work.

Spell work is WORK. For a difficult situation, more than likely it is going to take more than one candle, or spell. These situations tend to be difficult, and require more work. It is going to take discipline, some creativity, and risks just like anything when people want something really bad. Also, goals are more attainable when you break them down in small goals. Thinking about a goal that is soo huge, can be discouraging, but if you break it down then and start doing results for every little goal...its going to help you get to the bigger goal.

Also, burning the same type of candle or doing the same spell with no results does not mean you need something more stronger.Or you may need to hit the situation from a different angel, or you are not addressing the problem directly through the correct spell. I can burn a little free standing candle, with 3 ingredients on it, and it can be just as powerful. Yes some ingredients make things more potent, but the power is you. Yes the universe can tell you No, but I would say most of the battle is overcoming your faith and discipline.

If I am reading these quotes correctly, concurrently hitting “the situation from a different angle” is not problematic when it is something like a honey jar, mojo hand, doll baby combination, or is that too much for one goal? For example: I am going to do work on myself for self love, healing, mental health, road opening & confidence and planned to do all three of the spells I just mentioned at the same time. Is that excessive, or is it okay because it is all for the same purpose? I don’t want my devotion to be to my detriment. I have not started yet, but I plan to this weekend.

Also, in a couple of weeks I am going to do a moving candle spell accompanied by a doll baby and honey jar for a guy I like. I know those are slow moving but is it okay to do all three at the same time? I wont see him for a few months so it is no rush, but I want to get started.

And then there's vigil lights:

I completely agree on the vigil light. On multi-day spells I always keep a vigil light going on that petition (and usually afterwards for at least 1-3 weeks) - I really like having that perpetual flame going as I work.

If you want to keep the work constantly going you can burn a vigil light for the same purpose. It is solely up to you, but you do not have to.

In addition you may also burn the 7 day candles to back up the work, so when you are not working they are. They also give signs, like if the glass is clear and no left over wax then its a great sign that the work is taking. If it is smoky then clears it meas you will have opposition but will over come it.

A vigil light accompanying a spell is always beneficial, or no? Does it depend on the type of spell?

In the past, I did a lodestone love spell on a guy I liked and a road opener spell to get a job and didn’t give it a second thought and I got both, but my health & well being is a bit different so I am doing as much research as I can because it is sooooo important.

Will having a "perpetual flame" along side my self love honey jar, mojo, and doll baby be too much?

Also, one of the quotes references vigil lights for 1-3 weeks after performing a spell. Is that a personal preference or a wide spread practice?

The disadvantage of performing multiple spellwords (especially simultaneously) is that you overthink, overwork and overextend yourself. You would certainly be better off doing ONE spell WELL than cocking up six or seven of them. Only take on board what you can handle.

You can always do multiple works with different intentions on a single day. You want to keep your intentions clear and keep yourself and your workspace cleansed.

Currently this doesn’t apply to me, but there are multiple things that I need to work on. Maybe some of it can be combined with the self love?

I have academic aspirations, I desperately need a new home and a job, and I need to attract new friends, so those will have to be stand alone spells, but can spellwork related to my self image, personal empowerment, wisdom, clarity, charisma & eloquence be incorporated into self love & road opening or is that spreading my intentions too far?

What about stamina and physical strength?

Sorry to cram all of these questions into one post.

Thanks Everyone!

Ruby

Thank you for your time.

Ruby

[MsTiye]

Hi, all!

After reviewing the forum I haven't noticed anything about doing spells to draw money and banish a debt at the same time (unless I overlooked it). The purpose of the money-drawing spell is for a small trip to go out-of-state for graduate school, the debt-banishing is for, well, a debt . What are thoughts on these two types of spells running at the same time?

[Miss Athena]

Hi MsTye,

You could do those as the same time, since they are complementary to each other.

Good luck.

[MsTiye]

Thank you, Miss Athena!

[phouka]

I had some reading done on a situation where at first I just had a 9-day reconciliation and a honey jar. After the read, it was clear there was healing and cleansing and some blockages to push. I'm wondering if my chosen additions are proper ideas as I was given a general outline.

Set veve around - Legba to open the way, and a love uncross which I set in the home and on some of the target's favourite clothing that will be worn often.

Set votives with the honey jar specifically for confidence, healing, and a road opener.

Did a love strengthening bath and home wash (which since finishing I personally feel incredibly energetic and content)
And Adam and Eve/Adam and Steve candle is going now as well with the most even burn I have ever seen.

I feel confident covering all angles will help, what say you all?

[Miss Athena]

Hi phouka,

We can't comment on your work as this is a forum for hoodoo-based spellwork and by working with Legba (an African and Afro-Caribbean deity) you indicate another spiritual path in the description of your spell.

Nonetheless, good luck with it. If you would like help with hoodoo and the use of Lucky Mojo products, you can ask us here.

[Innocence]

I have multiple types of love spells going on at the same time for the same target in addition to a few other non-love spells. Over time I do start to feel spiritually fatigued.

After I read about the helper lights on this thread, I realized I've also been making a big mistake. When I burn a 4" candle on my reconciliation/love honey jar, I used to also place the love spell bottle, love doll baby, binding doll babies and love mojo bags all around it. No wonder my love work has been going slow, think of all those items sucking away at that poor little candle!

Today I gave the spell bottle and the binding doll babies a candle each of their own, my fatigue seemed to lessen too as all 3 candles were burning together.

Just like in life, frugality in spell work is only advisable up to a certain point!

[Witchywitchmari]

If you cast many spells but all for the same purpose does it add more power to the first spell out come you want ?

Some spell casters say that if you cast too many they cancel each other out but i think that's when you order spells from two different spell casters

I don't know though about spells casted by yourself. I believe they add power especially when your building up energy from previous spells all for the same outcome.

What are your opinions on this ?

[Miss Athena]

Hi Innocence and Witchywitchmari,

Casting multiple spells at a time does not necessarily add power to your work. Nor do multiple spells necessarily cancel one another out.

How you work will be based on how you were taught and who you learned from. I personally like to do one spell at a time and wait for an outcome before deciding whether more work is needed.

If you want professional advice, book a magical coaching session with someone from AIRR and they can advise you on a course of action for a specific goal.

http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/

Good luck.

[catherineyronwode]

Dear Innocence and Witchywitchmari,

Miss Athena gave you both some good advice. I think both of you have been picking up on internet conceptions and "rules" regarding spell casting that actually have little or nothing to do with hoodoo, which is simply African American folk magic, and includes a lot more ways of working than "casting" and a lot more types of work than getting reluctant lovers to comply with one's romantic desires.

To be specific, Innocence, your image of "all those items sucking away at that poor little candle" is something that sounds ridiculous to me. Sorry, i am not trying to be rude, but that's the way i see it. So many great and effective love spells use NO CANDLE AT ALL, that if your love work is going slow, blaming the fact that you had only one candle lit sounds like a coincidence to me. The best love work is contact work, period. Try that, set a time limit on it, and ride it until the wheels fall off!

Then, Witchywitchmari, you are trying to make sense from the experiences of those who "order spells from two different spell casters," but people like that are generally experienced practitioners in the Black American community of hoodoo, and as you yourself noticed, their opinions are pretty much anecdotal and not typical of the results gained by those who know this work and use it to help themselves.

My advice to both of you is to get into what hoodoo really is -- a way to help yourself on so many levels!

[serenity786]

i just got another order from LM and this is what happened:

i have been lighting a follow me boy candle for the past 3 days, and instantly i got the feeling that i wasnt alone, and that same night i had a dream that my target was following me. and when i woke up right away i knew that this oil was very powerful and that kinda scared me.

the next day i saw my target probably twice but nothing out of the ordinary we are both purposefully ignoring each other at work as we had an argument a month ago.

Anyways i lit another candle, this time i carved his name into candle with bday and same for me and my commands, then i dressed the candles saying:

1. look me over oil with look me over
2. attraction oil be attracted to me
3. follow me boy oil with follow me around like a dog
4. come to me oil come to me,
5. kiss me oil then kiss me

and finally dressed with bewitched me powder. all the items i had seemed to be aligned with eachother so i figured lets try them together and see. i burned 3 candles, one after another with same commands.

however today my husband, who i am now separated with, and me were talking and he became very hostile towards me and i became out of control angry as well as we both became very violent towards eachother. it was like i was unable to control my anger and he even strangled my neck and then just left.

the candles were not lit for him because he is a very abusive man and i just dont want him in my life anymore, but the kinda fight we had today was out of the ordinary.

However the candle flame was really high and really steady, dancing every now and then. it was once in a while letting go of smoke that appeared like tornado and i think i temporarily saw an image in the flame.

i am trying to get an email reading, and emailed a few people to try to see if i can schedule one and still waiting.

but did i over do my spell?

[Miss Aida]

Hello, serenity786,

If that man doesn't live with you, then the spell had nothing to do with his behavior.

PLEASE don't let this man near you. PLEASE. Right now, I am shaking that he tried to strangle you.

Is there any way that you can get a restraining order against him?

PEASE protect yourself. Keep him away and magically protect yourself also:

http://www.luckymojo.com/protectionspells.html

PLEASE take care of yourself

[serenity786]

thanks miss aida,

i called my mother and she is with me right now and we are thinking about what to do.

The reason why i thought it was due to the spell is because of my reaction. normally i would feel scared but i dont. I felt soo much anger and felt empowered. i have never felt this much anger before. Usually i take the abuse but today something just over came me.

Could that be because of my spells? Do i need a break?

in terms of protection, i am praying some verses of protection from my religious book and i have some protective verses hung up over the house.

Meanwhile, i do have a feeling that this time around, this last burn will result in some kinda positive outcome. its just a feeling i am having like i finally broke through the resistance somehow.

[catherineyronwode]

serenity786, i am glad you are safe.

It is my belief that setting love lights for someone cannot and will not make you become angry and violent toward your abusive ex.

The two concepts are entirely different.

Many people have a deep-seated culturally-imposed fear that magic is somehow "bad," and even when they do a good job for a beneficial result, they blame other thigs that go wrog on the fact that they did some work to help themselves.

In your case, you are working on a love spell and there is no reason to "take a break" or to think that the love spell was "overdone" in any way.

What you DO need to do -- immediately -- is get a permanent restraining order against your violent ex. And THAT, truth to tell, is not magic. That is LEGAL.

Best of luck, and be safe!

[BrujeriaMasFina]

I have been working on reconciliation work after a positive AIRR reading and currently waiting on the outcome of a reconciliation Candle being burned at the MISC church, and have done the following with positive, quick and specific signs:

-Burned a red novena candle dressed in herbs (clean burn, no issues) with photo and petition paper
-Burned a pink, dressed free standing candle (strong/bright burn, some tears toward the end that did not burn away) with photo and petition paper
-Second red novena candle currently still burning day 2....dressed in herbs and menstrual blood, on photo and petition paper
-Burned Two free standing blue candles dressed in oil and herbs, carved with intent, on photo with petition paper (for healing and reconciliation)

Also currently in the middle of a reconciliation Candle burn on the altar at MISC

That being said, I've had nothing but positive signs (but no movement yet)

Today I totally screwed up 3 freezer spells and it's come to light that someone is working against me. Now once I correctly dispose of the botched freezer spells and cleanse myself and my house, I'm wondering if this failed freezer work will somehow affect my nothing but positive Candle Work.

How can I also effectively protect myself from further interference? Mirror box? Uncrossing? Spells and LM product suggestions please. Not sure if it's too soon to contact my rootworker about this or not. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you!
BMF

[Sister Jean]

Hello BrujeriaMasFina,

In my opinion, I don't think your freezer spells would interfere with the good results you've gotten with the other candle work, because they were done with two very different goals in mind (love vs. freezing a rival). But, you could always find out for sure by getting a reading with your rootworker to check in on things.

To protect yourself and your work, put protection up on yourself as well as around your workspace, and place bay leaves in the corners of the room you're working in as well as at the corners of your altar to hide the work from prying eyes:

http://herb-magic.com/bay-leaves.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/fierywall.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/protectionspells.html

Good luck to you.

[Shutter]

I don't know where to start or to put this so I'm going to put it here. I was 100% dedicated to working conjure and had been working on different aspect of my life and relationships that I am in with other people. It seemed that absolutely nothing was working I had reading with that said that it would and it's been over three months now that things I started have not come to pass so I'm really disheartened and have taken a break for the past month now I would like to pick things back up that I am in less of a depressive slump but I feel like I've lost the confidence and belief in root work does anyone have experiences like that in which they can share how they regained there confidence and begin to work successful magic again?

[Sister Jean]

Hello Shutter,

I merged your post with this thread about spiritual fatigue and taking breaks from spellwork. In the future, please try to find the most relevant thread for your question and post it there. Thank you!

Onto the topic at hand though. I'm very sorry you're feeling this way. I've been there, my friend, and it is hard and crushing. However, if you read through this thread from the top, you'll find lots of people who have dealt with the same thing.

You should also check out this thread about having negative thoughts about spellwork:

over-thinking-ocd-negative-thoughts-whi ... 21617.html

I think taking a break is a wise choice, and I hope you don't beat yourself up for doing that. Once you're feeling better, if you aren't getting the results you want with your work, you could always try another tack. If you're just using sachet powders, step it up with candle work. If you're doing candle work, back it up with spiritual bathing. Just don't give up!

Take care yourself.

[SpellsnSuch]

Hi all! I’m new to hoodoo (just started less than two months ago) and sometimes when I cast my spells I feel pretty drained afterwards, like tired for the rest of the evening. When I wake up I’m perfectly fine and rejuvenated. Is that normal? Does anyone else feel like that?

[Sister Jean]

Hello SpellsnSuch,

Welcome to the Lucky Mojo forum. If you would like to, you're welcome to introduce yourself under the introductions thread.

If you read up through this thread, you'll find lots of stories from people who have experienced the same thing you're describing.

Take care.

P.S. I see that you're new to the forum, but you should know that posting new topics is against forum rules. Next time you have a question, please find the thread that best fits with what you're asking (you can use the search box at the top right of the screen), and post your question at the end of it by clicking "post reply." Thanks!

[SpellsnSuch]

Sorry about that! I also have gotten a little carried away today and started posting/asking everywhere lol. I am sorry. Just excited to be practicing hoodoo and to talk to people about their experiences. Thank you for understanding!

[Mags_and_the_Moon]

I think I'm at this place right now considering I am getting to the point where I feel drained of my energy, and I'm not looking forward to working spells as I was a month or so ago.

I'm not sure if I've had a change of heart or if my anxiety over whether or not my rootwork is working is the cause, or if it's a combination of both. Anxiety in and of itself can be draining, and it's certainly not conducive to successful rootwork.

With that said, most of my work lately has been on a guy; one whom I want to leave his other interest and be solely with me. We have been friends for a long time, had a long sexual relationship, and have deep feelings for each other, but things have felt different lately. He is more passive where I am not, and that has frequently been an issue between us over the years, and I know I cannot change his personality. Yet, there is still an undeniable chemistry between us and those deep feelings for one another are still there.

I work Monday through Friday though which definitely adds to feeling drained, and over the past couple of months, I have worked certain spells everyday. Right now, it feels exhausting to even shake a vinegar jar every evening or prepare a candle for a honey jar on the specified days.

Is there possibly another way to work these spells so that if I'm not working a jar everyday, the jars do not lose their effects? Also, if I were to leave the jars be for a few weeks (or any other rootwork, for that matter), would that make them ineffective when I start working them again? Lastly, I had a reading on the LM Rootwork Hour radio show in February of this year regarding this guy; is it too soon to get another reading?

As always, any help and advice would be much appreciated.

[catherineyronwode]

Hello, Mags --

One of the most common causes of "spell burn-out" that i have witnessed in my 50-plus years as a professional reader and rootworker is that folks enter into the work with no time limit and no plan B.

Always set a time limit and accept that failure may be your outcome. Every race has its finish line, and you hope to win, but you might not. But there *is* a finish line.

Always have a Plan B, either for a second or third form of spell (another race, so to speak), or to drop the request (stop racing, so to speak).

Good luck!
I hope this helps.

[Mags_and_the_Moon]

Thank you, Miss Cat.

I remember you and ConjureMan Ali reminding me on the radio show that it is important to set a time limit, especially for Tauruses, because we can be so stubborn and unwavering. I think in the love department, I got hit extra hard because my Venus is also in Taurus, and my Ascendant is in Scorpio, obviously putting my Descendant in Taurus as well.

My target's attitude towards me has been different lately, and I'm not sure if it's because my work is not working or if it could be other influences such as Mercury Retrograde, plus with him being a Virgo, he is obviously ruled by Mercury. I've also considered that it could be job-related considering he works as a tax consultant and it is the beginning of April.

I think by the time the Sun enters Gemini, I need to decide whether to try a Plan B or to stop racing altogether.

[Shashute]

Good morning,

My question is, can I work 3-4 different spell kits at the same time? Meaning using one spell kit a month. I'm interested in getting several kits. The ones I'm interested in are

steady work
fast luck
commanding
compelling
come to me
essence of bend over.

Please advise. Thank you for your assistance.

Shashute.

[catherineyronwode]

Shashute,

I am not sure i understand your question. First you ask about "using 3-4 different spell kits at the same time" and the you ask about "using one spell kit a month." Since few kits take more than two weeks to complete, if you work one per month, you will not be working 3 to 4 at the same time.

I would question your economic framework here -- Why not purchase 1 per month and do them in the order you have chosen? Or, if you wish, why not purchase, say, 3 of them, and work them simultaneously? I am concerned that you are ging to over-invest in products you may never use.

If you buy two of them -- one for money and one for love -- you can see how you like the work, see how you like our products, and get to experience some results.

Buy two spell kits and spend the money you save on these six books instead:

The Black Folder edited by cat yronwode
Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic by cat yronwode
Cash Box Conjure by Miss Phoenix LeFae
Hoodoo Honey and Sugar Spells by Deacon Millett
The Art of Hoodoo Candle Magic by cat yronwode
Hoodoo Spiritual Baths by Aura Laforest

Those books, as a group, cost less than two spell kits and will open your eyes to a lot of ways to practice hoodoo on your own, in a holistic and traditional way.

Good luck!

[MrsSchaeffer]

I have a question. I woke up this morning overwhelmed and emotional. I am not like that normally. I buckle down and do whatever I have to do. Always have. Something even happened with my target yesterday and I went to bed happy. A few days ago I took the advice in my signature and said to hell with the signs, I'll wait for the success. But all day today I was a WRECK. I did what I HAD to do today, but nothing more. I literally thought about throwing everything out, but I know vinegar jars have to be buried in graveyards. I was ready to just forget it all, no matter how much I love him.

I am thinking about taking a week off from the honey and vinegar jars and just do my prayers/candles to St Martha and St Helen. I honestly don't think I can handle anything else. All my candles, candle reports and readings say they're breaking up and he's coming home to me. I see/hear his name at least 2 times a day. Both St Martha and St Helen quickly agreed to work with me (in fact St Martha reached out to me first). I also received a very good candle report back this morning, but waking up like that was horrible.

Does anyone have any advice from when you get overwhelmed this way? I've been lighting candles with VanVan for the past few days as well as smudging. I need to do a 13 Herb bath I know, but I have never had this happen before. Ever.

Thank you to all who take the time to read and answer.

[JayDee]

MrsBrown,

Cat mentioned above to set a time limit, which is important. Otherwise you can find yourself in this pattern.

When I get overwhelmed I step back for a day or two and get my mind straight. Can't have negative views while doing the work. Also you are seeing signs which means to keep going. The reports are good meaning keep going.

I think part of your issue is frustration, you are seeing signs, some movement and great reports but not seeing the manifestation that you want an expect. Old saying, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater!

Take a spiritual bath, light a candle dressed with blessing oil or another positive oil for yourself and pray 23 Psalms asking for peace of mind and guidance.

[Sister Jean]

Great suggestions, j82.

[MrsSchaeffer]

j82, I have marked the time limit. I have a while to go for that though according to my readings (which also say to keep working). I am preparing the 13 Herb Bath going as I type this.

Yes, I guess it's wearing me out that I am not seeing anything but the signs are literally running me down. It's frustrating to say the least. But I do understand it (even if I don't like it). I did get a literal message about detachment today. So I am working on it.

[JayDee]

Mrs.Brown,

I understand the feeling about signs. But lets be glad you are getting them because many others are working and hoping for them and havent received a sign. I did work not too long ago and no matter where I went, text or did the same name came up everytime, to the point where I was fusterated because I get the signs which are not always easy to determine the meaning, and it was like taunting me, it come up so much Id say up watch the waiters name is so and so , id be right. Get focused then start thanking God and those spirits that help you , and now ask for movement, that you got the signs.

[MrsSchaeffer]

You are very right, j82. I did a 13 herb Bath yesterday. I also did talk to all spirits and saints who have been assisting me and gave my sincere thanks. I also asked for movement.

[ScorpioKate]

Hi MrsBrown!
I know what it's like to wake up and feel completely different one day. Or to just feel horrible energy out of nowhere. It happens to me somewhat often, though, because I'm intuitive and I'm generally open and receiving energy as it is, so I sometimes get hit with a stray bullet so to speak, if I left my guard down too long. It usually happens when I'm stressed out before going to bed. Bad energy will find it's way in and I'll wake up feeling "different" and like nothing I'm doing is going to work out, when I wake up. Just complete discouragement. It's happened often enough that I realized the cause was that I wasn't layering on the protection during times of stress. But before I realized that, I would literally undo my work and spend the day with a case of the "F***-its" and just stomp around making threats to God, and not being productive. Eventually the muck would clear and I'd feel foolish lol. But now I just cut to the chase and throw a bunch of Van-van around until I feel like I can come back and try starting my day again. It really does help. The 13 herb bath has a similar effect. Just clearing out the crap so you can see things as they truly are, instead of with a dark veil cast over everything.

Another thing that I stand by personally, is that when this happens, I often do still end up taking a break from the work for a bit. I don't want to put any of my discouragement into what I'm doing. I'd rather have a break from the process than to work backwards. I also do my best to have faith that what I've already done has made a difference and that God has already heard me. I'm not speaking on behalf of God but my personal opinion is that he doesn't want me to feel like garbage as a result of, or during prayer/spell work. Same with my ancestors that I work with and all the plant allies and everyone who I'm seeking help from. It's happened before when I got burned out, where I went and did some work that made me feel good instead of work for the goal, and the goal came in while I was jamming out to Patti LaBelle in the bathtub lol. So as far as from my personal experiences, I would say keep working if you've been advised to, but be mindful of how "you" are doing. The work you've done up until now is still out there and doing it's job. Even if you stop your progress, you can visualize all that energy and all those prayers still flowing out there. And then you can come back and add more to it in a day or two when you're feeling motivated again.

But either way, protection is really important to keep the crap out in the future. You're opening yourself up psychically when you're doing work of any kind which is usually a good thing, but when we get stressed or tired, we're just more vulnerable. And for me, the protection part is as simple as annointing my forehead with Fiery Wall of Protection oil and saying Psalm 23 with conviction. I also like to use Tibetan Ghost Purging Incense but that's just because I'm the type of practitioner that needs to regularly purge disincarnate entities from my house anyway.. Your experience may vary lol.

[Sister Jean]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts, ScorpioKate!

[MrsSchaeffer]

Hi ScorpioKate!

That's exactly what happened to me. I woke up like I got hit in the head by a mallet (literally my third eye has been aching for a few days). I have "the gift" or whatever this is. I know things without knowing how and all of that. I've been quite against it because I haven't seen the point... and I hate being right about certain things.

It's never happened like this to me before. But you described it perfectly. I wanted to throw ALL my work away. I cried most of the day and anyone who knows me I don't cry easily. It dissipated by the next day (for the most part). But it was bad. I did pick up some Lucky Mojo Van Van and start lighting white candles with it on. I took the 13 herb bath yesterday too and it's usually REALLY hard for me to finish but I did it without much issue. I have some Tibetan Purging Incense going right now (one of the best things Lucky Mojo ever introduced me to).

I know there are things in the house because one of the dogs is super sensitive to it. I have to concentrate on getting my money right so I can move out. The bath did help since I got something done today that I should have done weeks ago.

I started the St. Martha novena over and this is week 3. I also began with St. Helen and this is day 7 (I am not sure if I am supposed to do days or weeks with her). That is all I am doing right now because it's all I can manage. I've let the vinegar and honey jars go for the week. I had a long, emotional talk with God, angels, ancestors, saints and everyone the other day. I've been advised to continue my work, but I will do so within my abilities and limits. I will definitely do more protection work from here on out.

Thanks to you, I have a dab of Fiery Wall of protection on my forehead right now and said Psalm 23 three times (don't know why, it just felt right). I truly appreciate the time you took to address my issues. That is why I return to Lucky Mojo. The products and people are second to none. xo

[catherineyronwode]

Thank you, Scorpio Kate, for helping, and Mrs. Brown for the kind words about this foum and our hand-made spiritual supplies.

Best of luck to you in all your works.

[mi55understood]

Is it ok to burn a 7 knob money candle and work a lodestone spell at the same time or should I wait till after the 7 day candle is done to start with the lodestone?

[catherineyronwode]

There is no reason not to work them at the same time, and it is possible in many instances to add a simple candle spell to another kind of work at the same time.

[teamotanae]

Good day

Can I do a freezer spell followed by a court case jar (bought on LM)

While at the same time doing the 13 day uncrossing kit (bought on LM with 3x mojo bag)


Time is running out and I want to do all of them while the moon is waning to get its greatest impact.

Thanks in advance x

[JayDee]

teamotanae,

Yes you can do all of those at the same time. The spells are working for a similar purpose but a different angle of it.

[RhiannonWyt]

My question is about sickness in the more literal sense of the word. I started a couple of spells that are related, they are about attracting more wealth by finding a better job (for both myself and my boyfriend), and road opening for a specific job for my boyfriend. And then I got the flu. And I have NO energy outside what it takes me to go to my job every day (an important family event called me away long enough to burn up all my available time off). And I'm worried that forcing myself to go through the motions are worse than resting both myself and simply letting the work be on pause for a time.

If it helps... The first spell I referenced is a Lodestone spell with petition paper, magnetic sand, etc. and the second spell is Road Opener oil on a candle with petition paper.

I'm interested in your own experience(s), thoughts and opinions on spell working - or not - while sick.

[catherineyronwode]

RhiannonWyt --

I don't work while sick -- neither mundane nor spiritual work. I focus on healing and that is that.

[Edward T]

Hello RhiannonWyt.

I am sorry you are not feeling well. As a Rootworker myself I will never do any work when I am feel sick. This will have a strong effect on your outcome. You are going through a lot right now and your body is needing some rest. When you are feel stronger i then would suggest starting your work again.

I hope you feel better. Thomas K

[RhiannonWyt]

Thomas K /Edward T, thank you for that! It supports my thoughts about it and shushes that frustrated work ethic of mine. It's a virus and will run its course soon enough. The work can sit for a bit.

Thanks again.

[CuriousIndigo]

I light Fiery Wall of Protection twice a day (morning & night). Can I also light Psychic Vision candle at night to enhance my psychic ability and Bayberry candle during the day for money and luck? I know they serve different purposes. But would that be considered spell overload?

Thanks for any advise.

[JayDee]

CuriousIndigo ,

"Spell overload" is more of a thing people made up, or they get so tired because they are streching themselves too thin over the work. Doing regular work is completely ok. The jobs you want to do are things people would work daily and not a problem. Id also say some people take spell over load as jumping spell to spell, they do a spell, wait a day do a new related topic spell .. ie showing no faith in the work.

[heidiroseholton]

CuriousIndigo,

JayDee is right - doing regular work is totally okay! And I would encourage it!

When I first signed up for the Correspondence Course, I did a spiritual bath like, every single day. Then I started in on floor washes. I’ve burned pounds and pounds of Wealthy Way incense. I made soooooooo many oils. I’m one of those hands on people who loves to do try things out.

Spell work is fun - and it WORKS!!!! The products you are using are all positive and harmless - it’s not like you are cursing someone in the morning then turning around and doing a love spell for yourself in the afternoon. But even if you wanted to do that, you could just do some spiritual cleansing work in between. As long as you have the energy and the interest, do as many spells as you want!

[Edward T]

Curiousindigo
I am a firm believer in quality of work and not quantity. If you can focus your intent on one working and have it succeed, then go on to the next job you will have better results. Take your time. Slow is fast and accurate.
Enjoy. Edward T

[CuriousIndigo]

Shout out to JayDee, heidiroseholton and Edward T, thank you for all your responses. I guess initially, I thought that I should light one Vigil candle at a time and wait till it’s completely out before I light another, though they serve different pursposes. That was the reason why I thought I might’ve overload or overdone Vigil candles.
I’m pretty new to lighting Vigil candle. How will I know when the candle is done? Should I wait till it’s about 1/4 left and stop lighting them or will it stop burning on it’s own? I do not want to wait till the glass break or would that even happen?
Sorry if it’s out of subject.

[JayDee]

CuriousIndigo,
Many workers wether be professional or work for themselves and family/friends do multiple jobs and burn many candles for different purposes. One way to do this is the use different alters for your work. This will vary based on privacy, space and need. Some work with one alter, others work on many. Some have a love alter, money alter, cursing alter, blessing, etc. You can burn those candles on those alters with items that represent those needs. If you have one small area simply place them in their spot and work with them that way. To work the different candles, everyday pray over each one at least once a day with the petition. A glass candle will burn itself out. No need to put them out unless you have too. The glass can break, anytime you mix fire and glass that is an option but its rare. Do not leave unattended. Many people burn them in fire proof places like a ceramic tub, a sink, a stove, a fireplace. Some people burn them in a pan with sand. If the glass breaks its considered a sign of the work. IE- I am burning a candle for love on an ex, the candle breaks, the person is resisting the work and fighting it off. IE 2- I am burning a break up candle on my ex who cheated on me and is in a new relationship, the candle breaks as its burning, good sign indicates a blow up and a break up between them.

Book on alters: http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodooshrinesandaltars.html
Candle magic book: http://www.luckymojo.com/artofhoodoocandlemagic.html

[CuriousIndigo]

JayDee,
What I was worrying about is if the glass would break if I let the candle burn all the way down. I read that we shouldn’t let glass candle burn all the way and to leave about 1/2” of wax to prevent glass breakage and possibly fire hazard. What’s your take on that?