Candles: How to Trim Carve Load Petition Pray Dress Arrange Light

keeperoftherubyshoes · Unread post by **keeperoftherubyshoes** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:29 pm

I admit to being a novice at best on this one, but my thinking here is kind of practical, especially if your candle was dressed at LM and then shipped to you. Some of the oil will be around the top of your jar, and a bit of herb and glitter will stick to it- I personally don't consider this to be a sign of any sort, just like I don't really worry about a *tiny* bit of wax left around the bottom edges of a jar candle, as the vigil jars themselves are ever so slightly convex at the bottom- so if the wax level to the wick's placement at the jar bottom is gone, I call it good. But that's me. Keep in mind I'm only talking about a little bit in both cases though. That being said, if you're unsure, it's always ok to have a look at the situation through divination so you don't obsess over whether it's a sign or not and thereby kill your spell.

path2success · Unread post by **path2success** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:42 am

Everyone recommends divination - does that mean we need to go to an AIRR reader after the spell and ask them how it went? Coz I don't know how to do divination.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:36 am

Although some people are more gifted at divination than others (just as with any other skill) anyone can learn to do simple divination. Think of it this way: not everyone will be a great chef, but most of us can manage to cook a decent meal if we put our minds to it. The trick is to find the method that suits you. Tarot cards, oracle cards, or playing cards are used by many and there are many to choose from. Most decks come with instructions for use. I have been using bibliomancy with good results, by reading both the Bible and other spiritual books.

It can be difficult to do readings for yourself because you may be too close to the situation to see the whole picture. I suggest finding a reader or spiritual advisor in your community that you feel you can trust and who isn't trying to rip you off.

path2success · Unread post by **path2success** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:13 am

Oh I hadn't thought of tarot for that. I thought we need to send pictures to the candle remains for divination. Thanks!

hangedman · Unread post by **hangedman** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:06 pm

After I dress my candles with the appropriate oil, is it OK to also roll them in the corresponding sachet powder? Or, should I just use the sachet as it was intended? Thanks.

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:20 pm

That's perfectly fine.

path2success · Unread post by **path2success** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:26 am

I used to burn 4" altar candles on my honey jar only with reconciliation oil. It used to burn 2 hrs clean burn not a single drop of wax left. Then my LM order arrived. I dressed the candle in 6 oils rolled in sachet powders. result: candle started melting most of the wax melted on the jar and the wax got melted in 1.5 hour however the flame burnt for 2 hrs.

Now from this exp i feel that maybe i added too many oils which resulted in this.

So my question is do we just anoint with lil oil on one side of the candle and add just one line of herbs and not roll it completely?

I know in two days situation wouldnt have changed for tears to flow all over if i consider from divnation perpsective.

Can some experienced ppl pls advise.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:38 am

I just add a 2 or 3 drops on the candle. If it is a free standing candle I will put a few drops of each oil in my hand and rub up or down the candle depending on the objective. I really do not like to drench my candles with oil because it can start a blaze. I roll my free standing candles completely in herbs, and oil, and powders. I do not just put them on one side. If it is a vigil candle I poke holes in the candle,and insert a 2 or 3 drops of each oil. If you feel like you can't do this, you can get a dropper like those medicine drops. Some place they call them pipettes. Really easy to use.

path2success · Unread post by **path2success** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:07 am

Thanks Stars That was really helpful!!

mar_2 · Unread post by **mar_2** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:21 pm

Hello,

If I have designated one candle, which I have dressed with love oils and powders for one person, can I use that candle and burn it on someone else's photo?

Thanks

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:24 pm

I would say no. You dressed and named it for someone else.

mar_2 · Unread post by **mar_2** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:53 pm

Thanks HailDiscordia, but if I dont have any new candles at the moment (have to place an order) can i just dress a photo with the oils/powders, till my order comes?

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:58 pm

Sure, but you can burn little birthday cake candle if that all you got.

mar_2 · Unread post by **mar_2** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:06 pm

birthday candle sounds good, think i may have a couple lying around here and there..thanks!

C_A_2 · Unread post by **C_A_2** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:21 am

Greetings,

When you write a petition for money, do you word it in a way so that no harm comes to anyone in order for you to be granted the money? For example, if you write a petition asking for $10,000, how do you word it so that the money doesn't come by way of the death of a relative who had you listed as the beneficiary on their life insurance policy?

Thanx.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:53 am

I often will roll my oil-dressed candles through some finely ground herbs that correspond to the work.
I do this especially when working with the 7-day slugs that you can work all over before putting them into the glass case to burn.

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:03 pm

Often when I write out a petition like that I will do it in a written prayer form, something like the following:

Dear Lord and Heavenly Father,
I ask that you bless my life with good things and that my bank account is overflowing. Lord, you know a man's inmost needs and right now I need 10.000 dollars very badly. Lord, if it is your will please bless me with the money that I need. May my gain of this needed money not result from anyone else's loss. These things I ask in Jesus' name, amen.

That's somewhat like how I would do it.

good luck,
Bri

Editrix · Unread post by **Editrix** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:24 pm

You can also dress the candles with one oil and then use a different sachet powder that has a complementary effect (e.g. Healing plus Tranquility; Love Me plus Kiss Me Now!, etc.)

Hex2 · Unread post by **Hex2** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:27 pm

I was wondering if anyone knew how to cleanse a candle before use in the Hoodoo method. I was thinking about using rum as this is the way items are sometimes cleansed in Ocha. Or cleansing any item before use for that matter.

ItsAConvolutedJoke · Unread post by **ItsAConvolutedJoke** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:33 am

Try florida water,whiskey,holy water or your urine.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:38 am

You can use ammonia as well. Whatever you use make sure you are wiping down from wick to base.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:24 pm

Would this combination of three candles be good in a triangle if the intention is more attention, a commitment, and allure in a relationship?---

Stay with Me candle

Bewitching candle

Look Me Over candle

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:07 am

how about using some follow me boy if you have no one to "stay" right now? Overall, I think its a good combination.

jazzie · Unread post by **jazzie** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:36 am

Ok, I have been doing a honey jar using the triangle candle configuration and I have been using a pink couple candle... That is, I have a pimlk couple candle at the 8:00 pm position, a Road Opener orange candle at the 12:00 position, a pink candle at the 4 position and then, a pink candle on top of the honey jar.

I have been using a couple candle in the 8 position but I ran out of them.... What can I use as an alternative?

I do have access to individual figural candles....I can use these instead and just tie them with pink thread, correct?

Would it be effective to just use my and lover's astral candles tied with a red ribbon? Until my order from luckymojo arrives.

Any comments will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:43 pm

Two pink pillar candles that have been designated to stand in for you and your lover could be used or the two astral candles. you could tie them together or just melt them into each other. You could also use to dree standing figural candles--representing you and your lover and move them closer to each other over a series of days until they melt all over each other.

good luck,
Bri

jazzie · Unread post by **jazzie** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:03 pm

Thanks Bri.

Thank you very much for the input. I was becoming desperate since I just made my order this week.

I just want to clarify since you suggested two pink pillar candles that pillar candles are way too big for my set-up. So, I am going to assume that you are suggesting using just two small pink candles and that it is up to me to tie them or not.

Thanks.

Brida · Unread post by **Brida** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:04 am

Hello!

Okay, so I got home from Lucky Mojo today...OMG...awesome experience meeting Robin and Ian.

)

When I got home, I prepared my petition for the PAY ME vigil candle I purchased. Once I lit the candle, it was fine. I went out for a couple of hours, and when I got back the flame was extremely low, and just blue. I noticed the wax around the glass was hardening, so I took a thin nail file, and just ran it against the glass to scoot the hardening was closer to the flame. When I did it, the flame went out, and gave up a white curl of smoke. I immediately prayed over it, and tried to light it again. The lighter would not work! So, after trying so many times, I got another lighter, and lit it again. It was tiny and blue, and I picked it up to set it on another table, and it went out again! Determined to get it lit, and keep it lit, I pinched the tip of the wick, and the tip came off. There was still some wick above the candle, so I lit it again, only this time I did not try to move it. It is still blue and tiny, and looks like it will go out at any sec.

I have never experienced this before...

Please advise.

hugs,
Brida

NotDorianGray · Unread post by **NotDorianGray** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:18 am

Try scraping out some of the excess wax. Too much wax can 'drown' the wick of a candle. A slow, hot burn like that can mean that you won't be paid now, but probably later and with some struggles. In any case... I don't recommend interfering with a burning candle. They usually pick up on their own.

Brida · Unread post by **Brida** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:56 am

Thank you NotDorianGray!

I woke up this morning to find it out, so I scraped out some wax around the wick. I lit it, and voila! a real flame emerged! It is VERY stead, and strong.

Thanks for advice...I always appreciate the help!

hugs,
Brida

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:57 am

If there is a large pool of wax around the flame, take the candle outside while it is still burning and pour some of wax on the ground and bury it (unless it is a cursing/reversal type of spell). Some candles have too much wax and not enough wick.

Shery2 · Unread post by **Shery2** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:30 am

Hello again Hoodooers:
Sorry about this question...but I'm kinda of confused. When writing on the candles, do one has to write "Vertical"? from bottom to top (for good spell ofcourse) or should one writes around it "Horizontal"?.

Please any help w/this would be extremely appreciated, I have to do a spell on blessing someone and I completely forgotten how to do it. Thank you

Shery

NotDorianGray · Unread post by **NotDorianGray** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:38 am

Depends how big your candle is.

Shery2 · Unread post by **Shery2** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:15 pm

Thank you for your prompt response. Yes I'm using a small LM pillar white candle. this is for blessing someone spell.

any feedback I appreciate it.
Shery

Astrophel · Unread post by **Astrophel** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:31 am

Thanks for the advice, guys. I was having the same problem with a candle that just LOOKED like it didn't have enough wick, but for some reason I just felt "wrong" about taking out some of the wax...I mean, that's where the oil went when they dressed it and wouldn't it "pour the magick out"? I'm glad I was just being silly

Shoo · Unread post by **Shoo** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:34 pm

I hear that when a candle refuses to burn properly: going out, lots of black smoke, etc. then something else needs to be done to attain the goal.

NotDorianGray · Unread post by **NotDorianGray** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:06 pm

Unless there is a perfectly logical reason why the flame is going out. Like the wick drowning in the wax, or the candle being in a drafty area. Not everything is a sign, sometimes it's just science, logic and common sense. When you exhaust the possibilites those three things throw at you, then you can look for signs.

shyguy · Unread post by **shyguy** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:24 pm

Do you have to keep redressing the candles for a 13 herb bath for 13 days? When you step out of the herb bath and air dry between 2 white offeratory candles dressed with uncrossing oil, while your smoking yourself in the uncrossing incense reading psalms. Do I have to redress the candles again for the next cleansing? I also use jinx killer satchet powder on the candles, do I have to repowder them too? And one more question, what is the best way to powder something? It seems a little difficult to get a good even powder all over the candle. I tried blowing it out of my hand but I seemed to waste it. I just pinch some and try to drop it on the oil.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:49 pm

You only have to redress the candles if you're using entirely new ones. If you are just burning a portion of the candle, and using it for the next time then no. To apply powder, I usually put some oil on the candle first, and then I put some oil down on a surface, and then roll the candle over the powder so that it gets on all sides. You do not have to keep reapplying powder unless you are doing another candle. Also, it does not need to be coated thickly with powder, or perfect on all sides. Instead of blowing the candle out with your hand, get a spoon, and snuff it out with the side you would put food on. Make sure the spoon is metal.

Lucylookingskyward · Unread post by **Lucylookingskyward** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:25 pm

Hello all! I'm considering ordering one of the beautiful fixed vigil candles, but I'm curious about one thing. Do these candles (whether they're labeled or unlabeled) come out of the glass? I only ask because I saw that LM sells pull-out refills, and despite having the candle prayed over, if I wish to add things like personal concerns or petition papers, I -- personally -- would be more likely to put these things in the bottom of the glass under the candle itself, rather than putting the vigil candle on top of the folded petition paper etc. Of course, having never set vigil lights before, I'm not entirely sure if its any different from setting free-standing candles in the usual manner.

Could someone with experience in this kind of work please offer me some insight? I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:24 am

Vigil candles are not pull-outs. As far as I know LM does not sell fixed pull-outs. You have to fix pull-outs yourself.

If you want to put things in a regular vigil candle, just poke a hole into the top of the candle with a hot nail or screwdriver, and then insert whichever items you want into the hole. Although if you have a limited number of personal concerns, I would not put them into the candle - I would put them underneath so that you could use them again.

Unread post by **sdb77** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:39 am

Hello all...

I have been burning a psychic vision candle and placed my petition underneath it on my altar. The candle finished burning while I was sleeping, so I didn't get to burn the petition in the candle itself. What is the best way to burn the petition now? My gut is telling me to burn the petition over the empty glass candle-holder so the ashes fall inside and then bury it all together. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance,
Sara Magnuson

Unread post by **CopperFox** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:51 pm

Hello, Sara --
The following comes from one of the many web pages available here at LM and is excerpted from Ms. Cat Yronwode's book, Hoodoo in Theory and Practice:

Fire can be used to dispose of the remains of spells, but generally speaking, because fire is seen as completely terminating the object that is burned, disposal by fire is not performed on remnant materials you may have laid down yourself, whether for good or for ill, either on your own behalf or as work for a client -- unless you are well and truly finished with that piece of work.

As I understand this you would not necessarily want to burn your petition for psychic vision because this is work for yourself that is to be ongoing in nature. Rather you may want to dispose of the ritual remains by wrapping them in either white cloth or a brown paper sack and burying them on your property. The backyard is considered the most appropriate area for the type of work I think you are conducting. You may also want to construct a temporary crossroads, or five spot, and inter your ritual remains beneath that to further fix the power of your work. If you do not have access to a yard, instructions for internment within your home can be found on the LM HITAP webpages. Check them out -- they an amazing storehouse of information.

Good luck with your work & I wish you well.

Unread post by **sdb77** » Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:39 am

Thank you, CopperFox

I could see the benefit of "closing" the spell by burning the petition in the candle itself because they are both charged with the same energy, but since that wasn't possible, burying it felt much better than completely terminating my intent with a different source of fire.

I am still in process of reading through all the LM pages and making sure I understand what I'm reading, so thanks again for the suggestion you provided.

Sincerely,
Sara Magnuson

XBlodeuweddX · Unread post by **XBlodeuweddX** » Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:42 pm

I'm going to have LM set some lights for me but the petition has me a bit thrown off.

I'm not sure what to say or how to phrase my wants for the situation. Is it similar to a prayer?

NotDorianGray · Unread post by **NotDorianGray** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:28 pm

On the other hand... If your gut tells you something, listen! If you feel like you want to burn the petition paper so that the intent within is released by smoke, then do so. There isn't a good reason not to. There's no good reason why you should, either... Except that your intuition tells you to.

NotDorianGray · Unread post by **NotDorianGray** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:33 pm

You can do it in whichever way is most comfortable for you, as long as you make your intentions clear. You could write a list or you could write a poem. It doesn't matter, as long as it's personal to you and conveys what you want it to.

Unread post by **Tabbylove17** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:02 pm

NotDorianGray is right; just write what you want, so if you want a certain person that you want them to think of you every moment of the day and when they sleep then write that. The universe isn't going to guess what you want, you have to tell it.

Good Luck!

bellasr34 · Unread post by **bellasr34** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:03 pm

what is the correct way of dressing a candle if you want to draw love from a certain target back to you

zee_2 · Unread post by **zee_2** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:12 pm

I believe that if you are dressing the candle in order to draw anything towards you, (money,love,success etc) you must apply the oil/dressing upwards .........and vice versa for a banishing type spell, you dress it downwards , away from you.
Forum experts please correct me if i am wrong!

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:12 pm

That is correct

NotDorianGray · Unread post by **NotDorianGray** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:58 pm

Yep. You can also take a pinch of sachet powder and blow it onto the candle.

MightyAphrodite · Unread post by **MightyAphrodite** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:40 pm

zee wrote:I believe that if you are dressing the candle in order to draw anything towards you, (money,love,success etc) you must apply the oil/dressing upwards .........and vice versa for a banishing type spell, you dress it downwards , away from you.
Forum experts please correct me if i am wrong!

Oops. I think I'm doing it backwards then. The upwards/downwards + towards/away confuses me. How can something be down, but also away?

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:40 pm

Here's a questions for everyone, when doing a working on a candle over a period of days do you guys annoint your candle everyday before you light it up, or do you stick with initially annointing it and then lighting it daily without anointing again? I think this is interesting and since there is no right or wrong way of doing it I just wanted to get an idea of what most other conjures did. Personally I annoint them once and sometimes roll them in powders and then just stick with that, though if I feel I want more of a kick, I might annoint the candle everytime I work with it.

zee_2 · Unread post by **zee_2** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:59 am

I do it properly when I start them...then just a little bit every day i light it up..it seems incomplete to me if i dont.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:06 am

Just because you annoint it everyday doesnt make it more effective. I mean more products does not equal more effective or more faster. It does make the candle burn more faster as the oil catches fire.And then people read that as "omg my gosh my candle burned really fast...that means Im going to get fast resutls" Not the case because you have poured more oil on to. I just put a few drops on my candles, and then stroke the candle from base to wick or wick to base 7 or 9 times depending upon my objective. I think its just a waste of oils to annoint it everyday.

skyme714 · Unread post by **skyme714** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:07 pm

Hello all,

Im new to candle burning. Last week I tried to petition St. Expedite but it didnt seem to work (at least yet), I am planning to burn a candle for him this Wed again.

I was curious was it there something I did wrong in ritual. Am I suppose to pray over candle all the time while its burning or should I say a prayer once, lit a candle and do what? Am I suppose to be in praying mood or can I watch tv or read a book while its burning?

Also, what prayer do I have to say over a candle when I sniff it out or light? I know I need to say a prayer of the saint who I petition, but what is the general prayer you say to a candle?

Thank you in advance!!

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:44 am

There is no one general prayer for all candles. It depends what it is for. Now you can say a command...which could be a simple phrase. Or you can write an actual petition. Some rituals are better with psalms or novenas like for saints.

As for the "mood" depends what the candle is for. If it is for a love then you need to be feeling that way,or something to that effect. IF you are doing some hexing or break up work...then feel angry. Channelling the right emotion will help with the work.

For St Expedite....say his prayer, and your request...When he grants it...then make sure you pay him. As for while the candle is burniing AFTER you say the prayer...you can go about your business. No there is not a prayer you should say while you snuff it out.

skyme714 · Unread post by **skyme714** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:59 pm

Thank you starinthesky,

this was very helpful!

josdos · Unread post by **josdos** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:37 pm

im wondering what the best way to annoit a novena candle would be? just the top? and do i repeat the annoiting every time i light it?

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:20 pm

There's many different ways that you can do it. It comes down to personal preference. There is no "best way".

Many people will melt a hole down into the candle top and then load that hole with herbs and oils. I like to put a small petition paper in there, too.

You can also carve your symbols/names/etc around the wick of the candle, and then rub a few drops of oil around and around the top of the candle while you pray over it intensely for a few minutes. You can also sprinkle some herbs on top of that before lighting.

Miss Cat teaches to knock your fixed candle 3 times on the table-top to "seal" it when you are done and before lighting it. I do this as well.