Spells to Break or Cut Soul Ties to Ex-Lover, Difficult Family Member, or Ex-Friends

Unread post by **tweetybird448** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:49 pm

Hello,

I have a question. I have a friend who has a child. Now the grandparent wants to get joint custody of the child, not because of loving the child or my friend is unfit but because they want money out of it. The grandparent is sick and unable to take care of the child. Would a simple hotfoot or sinking bottle do? These people are crazy and they have evil, and will do any thing for money. My friend and I will do anything to keep her kid. ANYTHING.

(I sense that you are not telling (or perhaps you were not told) the full story, because there is no judge who would listen to a case in which a sickylyl grandparent tried to claim a child away from the natural parent unless there was a question about the parent's fitness. A protection spell for the child and parent and a sinking bottle for the grandparent would work, but this is also court case work, so that would be the primary route of working, if it were my case, anyway. --cat)

Unread post by **Rebecca** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:09 pm

Cat, what is a sinking bottle spell to send someone away and cut ties to them?

Rebecca

(See the HITAP page on laying tricks in water:
http://www.luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html#water
--cat)

Lashonda Shipman · Unread post by **Lashonda Shipman** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:31 pm

The grandson father died (the grandparent son) and the grandparent wants the grandson's money. The only way the grandparent can have the money is to get the child. This grandparent has never done anything for the child. the grandparent's own children won't have anything to do with them, much less let their kids see him. They live in a place where I would not let my dogs live. My friend is like a sister and I see this kid every day, so i am attached to him. My friend is a great mom. She even raised other people's kids. It pisses me off because i know they want the money, and they using the child as a pawn. When people mess over children i get heated. If i do a sinking bottle the way i am feeling now I know i will hurt him real bad.

stacyhead · Unread post by **stacyhead** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:39 pm

Hi, Miss Cat! I enjoyed my time talking with you today. I already have a more peaceful feeling about the prospect of a more positive future. I am looking for the html link for the Vietnamese folk magic spell to break ties that we spoke about? Thanks again, you are the best, you really really are.

Bright Blessings,
Stacy Head

Unread post by **Leah Rivera** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:19 pm

I am not sure exactly which spell cat was refering to, but I would suppose it was this one:

http://www.luckymojo.com/cutandclear.html

cancankant · Unread post by **cancankant** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:07 pm

Hi there...

My sister has recently been divorced from a man who has since "gotten on with his life" and although his divorce was final only a few months ago, he is already shacked up with another woman. That is fine & dandy, but now he is starting to make things really difficult for my sister, including "blogging" about their personal lives and their former sex life online. He's being really hateful, mean and spiteful because of a mistake with child support that she had nothing to do with. The state made a mistake & now she is paying the price by having to read nasty things about herself. He is also texting her and telling her things like he can't afford to make his daughter lunch, so she'll have to pack one when he comes to pick her up. Stuff like that.

I love my sister and if I thought she had done something to deserve this treatment, I'd say "all's fair in love & war", but she hasn't. She has full custody, can't make her house payments, so she is losing her house on top of it, too. All this jerk can do is think of his wallet & new woman. Oh, and she has 2 kids with some deadbeat who pays nearly nothing in child support, so I'm sure she's not too supportive of my sister.

I really want him to hurt. I'd like to see him get broken up with & get evicted from his apartment that he shares with this woman, since there is no way for him to pay it on his own. Maybe their is a better approach? I'm not sure where to start. I've done some rootwork, but I'm not what you'd call "experienced".

I will be advising her to print all the texts and the "blog" he posted which I also saved on my computer in case he pulls it down before she can print it. I want to see him fail at getting any joint custody of this child, since he doesn't seem stable and is only going to try it in order to not have to pay her support, which is crazy. I think the longest he's ever had his child on his own is about 1 day. Usually he takes her about 2-3 hours tops!

Thanks in advance!

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:25 pm

I'm sorry to hear about what your sister is going through. A friend of mine, who is from the Middle East, once quoted a proverb (Syrian, i believe) that says, "In the eyes of God no man is worse than he who divulges what happened in the privacy of his bed between him and his wife to others" or something to that extent. Anyways, now to the point. Its always best to get a reading done to find out how successful you'd be in this type of work, if you might need to seek aid, or if there is any obstacles in your way. Once that is done, cross the heck out of this guy. You can do a vinegar jar to sour his current relationship and work on creating a break up. You can simultaneously work hotfoot conjure on his new paramour. I'd create a doll baby and put it through the works, pins, fire etc. That way you can get all your anger right out on him. Use some shut him up herbs to keep his mouth quiet. A little bit of aum placed in the doll baby's mouth goes a long way to keeping him from talking about private things. You can mess with his manhood by working a black penis candle spell, tying him up in knots to ruin his sex life. In my opinion it might not be best to cross his work and financial life because you want him to have income so he can pay child support. Instead I'd work some Pay Me Now conjure to keep him paying this dues. From your signature is it safe to assume you have some familiarity with saints? You might want to petition Saint Martha the Dominator to help you out in this course. Though, I have not worked with her, I believe there are some workers here who have great results with her. I hope that helps a bit. Remember to be creative, work with crossing oils and powders, break up conjure and target those areas of his life you want to ruin.

Donnalee2 · Unread post by **Donnalee2** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:19 pm

Hi cancankant, I have a spell to make him quiet. Try this, Get a fresh lemon cut it in half. write his name on a small piece of paper. Cut a slit in one lemon half, shove the paper deep into it. Put the lemon pieces back together get 9 straight pins & stick them into the lemon so as to hold it together tight. while you are sticking in the pins say your concerns with each stick of the pin. Then put the lemon in the freezer. Leave it there as long as you want. This should do the trick. Good luck.
donnalee

cancankant · Unread post by **cancankant** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:30 am

Thanks for the tips. I don't want to "ruin him financially" -- he's already done that himself.

The big things are getting him to pay child support & shut his yap about his situation. The sooner he sees that by "going with the flow", it's easier on himself, the better. Meanwhile, I will do some work to break him up with this woman, so he can focus on working and seeing his child. He wants them to "be a family", but he has no problems ditching out on his daughter in order to go out with his girlfriend, so that's also something that needs to change!

Thanks again!

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:39 am

He needs to pay up and shut up. Do a Pay Me spell and a spell to shut him up, maybe with a doll baby or figural candle.

Aina2 · Unread post by **Aina2** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:10 pm

Hello! I want to clear away an old, discarded friendship. I would like to ask everyone which spell would be appropriate for this kind of situation.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:53 pm

Even though you are dealing with friendships rather than love relationships, the idea is the same, so I would work Cut and Clear spell - if you want to back that up with the vigil light, too, go for it. But I would do the entire spell for the best result.

See http://luckymojo.com/cutandclear.html

Aina2 · Unread post by **Aina2** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:59 pm

Do you mean the one with black and white candles? I think it's great, although I am not interested in drawing in another friend in her place, I just wanna stop thinking of her as a friend. Either way, it's probably the best way to go about it, thanks!

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:34 pm

The previous poster did not say anything about drawing in another friend.

Here is the info page for clear and cut:
http://www.luckymojo.com/cutandclear.html

Aina2 · Unread post by **Aina2** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:52 pm

I know she didn't, and I am more than familiar with the Cut and Clear spell. I was just implying that the spell utilizes black and white candles and is designed to get rid of a bad person in your life and bring in the right person. I was personally interested in just getting rid of a friendly/sympathetic feeling for a person, hence the full-blown Cut and Clear would be a bit too much. I apologize for coming off as ignorant.

Thank you for all of your input, I appreciate it.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:35 pm

Then modify the spell to suit your specific needs.

For instance, simply write the discarded friend's name, a list of his or her bad qualities, and burn the paper in the flame of a black candle dressed with Cut and Clear Oil.

theusurper · Unread post by **theusurper** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:41 pm

can i use hotfoot powder to move out my son out of my house. don't make me wrong, this is the problem, he is separated from his wife few months ago and he moved to my house without permission. i talked to him and he asked me for 1 month but is already almost 2, the problem is i think he has somebody else and he doesn't want to get back with her, and for him is more easy stay here,i feel that my privacy is misused. i want to know if this is something dangerous for him.i don't want hurt my son but i need that him move out.

thelightfantastic · Unread post by **thelightfantastic** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:57 pm

To my knowledge hotfooting someone doesn't hurt someone, it just makes them move. I actually don't think hotfoot would be great in this situation anyway. I would first do some controlling or commanding work to get him to do what you want. Failing that, I suppose you could try something a bit more forceful like hotfoot but I would first look into controlling/commanding spells.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:39 pm

I was thinking Separation might work here - to get him to peacefully "break up" with his living arrangements.

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:34 am

thelightfantastic

Just wanted to say something here. HotFoot can hurt, it gets them burning to leave. Its not a pleasant experiences and the circumstances that cause the person to move can be dramatic. A powerful HotFoot can if so desired leave a person walking all there days, finding no place to settle, never having a home for long.

If you want to move someone out and you care for this person, or do not want them to hurt more then they must then take a look at Banishing and the like.

http://www.luckymojo.com/products-banishing.html

theusurper · Unread post by **theusurper** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:59 am

thank you,HD, even i dont want my son living with me, i dont want to hurt him, is my son.i'll try banishing products, thank you

thelightfantastic · Unread post by **thelightfantastic** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:52 pm

HailDiscordia

I meant it was unharmful from a physical aspect. If someone doesn't want to do something to begin with, more times than not, the result will be dramatic and unpleasant.

cancankant · Unread post by **cancankant** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:07 pm

I have been friends for over 15 years with a woman I'll call Carol. We've had our ups & downs over the years, sometimes to the point of me (and heck, probably her, too) throwing up my hands and thinking, "Why do I bother being friends with her?" We used to be "running partners", but now, we maybe see each other once a month or so. My husband doesn't like this woman, and currently I rely on him or public transportation to get around, so this limits what I can do with her and when. She has always been the kind of person who likes to do things on her terms. I can't fault her for that much, since I tend to be the same way, too, but our schedules are very different. Carol does shift work at night and I work during the day. She is a "go go go" sort of person, and I've evolved into more of a homebody. In the past, I've tried to invite her to things, but she doesn't get back to me or declines nearly all the time. The most we've been able to do together lately is grab a cup of coffee now and again, and that even seems to be a chore, since she always has some relationship drama going on in her life. The past 4-5 months have been very bad with this sort of thing. Her boyfriend broke up with her rather suddenly & took up with another woman immediately. She's done nothing but complain about the situation and go on and on about it since then.

Long story short, I've tried over the years to drop her as a friend and always relent due to guilt, etc. She "needs" me in a way that is exhausting to me. She wants advice that she never follows. She wants a shoulder to cry on. I'll admit to talking to her about my problems in the past (isn't that what friends are for?), but I don't think I was ever such a downer about it. If this was an isolated incident, I could look past it as a "bad patch", but this is a pattern. I know that for as long as I'm involved with her, she is going to be this way. Over this breakup, she's lost most of her friends and NO ONE will fix her up with their male friends, etc. due to her erratic behavior.

I feel for this woman and don't wish her any ill will. Honestly, I hope she finds love and becomes wrapped up in her husband just like I am with mine.

I won't say I don't have "time for friends", but when your best friend is your marriage partner, you fall into a different sort of schedule. I'm not on the "hunt". I'm back at the den.

With the new year approaching, I am wondering if there is something I can do spell-wise that will "soften" or even eliminate this friendship in a "natural" way. I don't want to give her the "brush off", but I really wish she'd find somebody to love or someone else who enjoys being their friend's therapist. This is extremely difficult for me, since I've known her longer than my husband, but in a way, I know it needs to be done. I've cut WAY back on how much I see her or talk to her, but the conversations and interactions are really rarely fun. Even the day after Christmas she called with some more drama about her & her ex. I guess maybe the single women out there are more used to the "bitch sessions" than I am. I'm happy and want to stay that way. When she frustrates me, then I talk to my husband about it and he has told me to STOP talking about her. He's not interested & wishes I would have dropped her years ago.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. I keep trying to make this work, but it's broken. I feel like someone who doesn't have the guts to break up with her boyfriend, but we're not dating. Ugh.

thelightfantastic · Unread post by **thelightfantastic** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:08 pm

I suppose you could do a spell for her to find someone to date. If she has someone new, she probably won't call or anything which would probably end your friendship for a time anyway. I actually think that's a bit circular as cutting her out of your life entirely is probably much easier. I've had my share of self-centered, psycho friends before and that's exactly what I did. Yes it's a bit mean, but life is too short to deal with people who only want you around when they need you.

If you can't quite build up the courage to cut her out of your life, look into doing some spells on yourself for additional courage. Cruiciable of courage products would be good in this case. A black walnut bath to cut your emotional ties with her with also be a good idea. If you don't really care about her, you won't feel so guilty about dropping her.

In all honesty, there's no reason to feel guilty about not wanting to be her friend. People grow apart. That's life.

Unread post by **Literarylioness** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:43 pm

Well, not all friendships last forever. I would do a cut & clear on her actually. If you feel like really letting her go, then do a black walnut bath. It sounds more of a friendship that has just petered out. I have had to drop a few downer friends and relatives myself.

She sounds like a psychic vampire and they are very draining. What good man will deal with that? Men are generally a bit sharper about this type of behavior. She is not a stray dog who needs rescuing. She is a grown adult who needs to grow-up.

In my experience, you can't really be nice to people like this. They just don't get it. When I was younger and more idealistic, I use to try to explain my feelings to these people. Not anymore. I just drop them now. I stop calling and stop answering my telephone. Is that mean? Yeah, but weren't they mean to me by using me?

Good luck!

Mary

cancankant · Unread post by **cancankant** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:25 am

Thanks for the replies. Cut and clear does sound like the way to go. I've felt guilty about this for too long & it's not fair to me or to my husband. Even my father thinks I'm crazy to put up with her mess. I've made a lot of excuses for her over the past, but it's always SOMETHING -- her mom died, her dad's kind of a jerk & lives far away, she suffered abuse as a child, her relationships go belly up with cheating boyfriends, lying, etc.

It's this last relationship that finally did it. The guy was bad news from the start, yet she claimed "everyone" loved him -- all her friends. I informed her that while I did not have anything "against" him, I did not "love" him. Neither did my husband. In fact, I went out of my way not to talk to him. Of course, he cheated on her numerous times & she kept giving him chances. There was other stuff -- too numerous to mention. When he finally left her, in the middle of the night, like a dog with his tail between his legs, she pretty much lost it. Now the drama is 100x magnified. She ended up getting herself in legal trouble because she wouldn't let this relationship just be over and done with. No one can understand how this lying, cheating, POS could have this hold on her, but it makes her an especially tedious person to be around. I actually cringe when I see a message from her on my phone or in my email box.

I got another message from her with a question about her legal stuff yesterday. Not "Hi, how are you doing? How was your holiday? Yadda yadda yadda..." No...a question about the sh*t she got herself into. Amazing. That's what kills me. I can't believe I've allowed myself to be involved in this for so long. She uses all her friends. Whether it's someone who DJs at a club or has a truck (to move or pick something up for her) or who is in law enforcement to look something up or do a favor for her --- she calls when she NEEDS something. It's so rarely a fun conversation. It's about how this is messed up or that horrible thing happened or he did this or she did that. I've had enough.

I also like the term "psychic vampire" because she does drain me & I am NOT obligated to be her shrink or legal counsel. I wouldn't get the same sort of attention in return, that's for sure.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:11 pm

You do not have to take her calls or emails and don't owe her any explanation. Block her number from your phone and block her emails. Life is too short to put up with this kind of drama. Let her find another "friend" to cry to.

ski · Unread post by **ski** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:29 pm

I have a brother that has lived with me over 2 yrs now he doesnt bring nothing but negitivity and has a bad attitude. He sleeps on my coach and is always mad about something. I want him to get out but i want him to have a place and a job can anyone help me on this.

Bless Be
Ski

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:45 pm

Hot foot him away from you.
http://www.luckymojo.com/hotfoot.html

Help him get a job

Do a road opener and some steady work

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:48 pm

Road opener is found here http://www.luckymojo.com/roadopener.html
Steady work here http://www.luckymojo.com/steadywork.html

IBMagnet · Unread post by **IBMagnet** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:51 pm

Your brother may have emotional/hormonal issues. That is my current dilemma with m sister. she never goes out unless there are urgent necessities. She can get violent and is extremely negative. She doesn't live with me. She lives with my father but her aura and the magnitude of the situation occupies us all. She is mainly the cause of my unhappiness, seing her like that is sad. We tried a series of things but the biggest dilemma is that SHE refuses to seek help. It's a control and manipulation issue.

I read this forum daily for anything other than hotfoot. Maybe that is something you want to look into.

As far as healing, I read somewhere in the forum that it's not safe to do magic on people with mental disorders. So, get a reading to see how best to help your brother and or yourself. The other scenario is to get professional evaluation for him.

It is hard to help people who don't want to help themselves and who aren't sufficiently grateful for all the love and support they are given.

Family is both blessing and curse. In my next life, I wish to be an only child or an orphan. It is just easier to deal with strangers. I would hotfoot a stranger in no time. With a relative, I wouldn't get past the guilt.

good luck

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:21 pm

Hotfoot may be a bit harsh, but its up to you if you want to burn at his heels like that. If you are mad enough hot foot is what you want.

You might also use a gentler conjure like Banishing products, might use a skull candle to get into his head that he needs to move out, or you may even place a doll baby of his in a jar that you toss into a river to have him walk out of your life.

ski · Unread post by **ski** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:22 am

WOW Thank you for all this good info. I want him to get out but with him having sucess but i think the hotfoot is a little to harsh because i do want a relationship with him, just with him not in my house. I thank you for all the good insight. LM & Cat & Staff are all so wonderful i will probly need to call the store for some ingredents to get this moving...

Thanks to all...

Prettykila · Unread post by **Prettykila** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:38 pm

I love my sister, but she has lived with me for too long. She moved into my residence during the summer and the initial setup was that she was only staying here for a month while she waited to get the approval on her own house. It is now January. She does not contribute to the income, she has lost two jobs within the time living here *over a six month period* I am only 22 yrs old, I do not make a ton of cash, and cant really support her. She is 32. Is there anything I can do to gently remove her? I have asked her to get another job and to stay with another friend but she says that I am family and I need to take care of her. Uh. Uh. No ma'am. Not to mention that I cannot bring company over because she is always "comfortable" and has the nerve to tell us to be quiet while she watches her tv show!

Can anyone suggest a traditional hoodoo spell? I know of one that involves putting 3 matches beneath the persons bed to get them to move but this spell also gets them in trouble with the law. I wouldnt want to do that to get her out. I cant even be intimate with someone here because she is always around and complains about everything. I recently had company on thursday night and she said she didnt care if my company was God that her sleep was more important! Gah. Any help is appreciated.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:48 pm

You can use the Seperation line of condition products to get her to move out peacefully. You could make a bottle spell with some of her concerns surrounded with Seperation powder and Controlling herbs, dressed with Seperation and Controlling oils - shake it daily while telling her to move out. Put a tiny amount of those oils on doorknobs or other things that she will touch, or you could use the Seperation bath crystals to add to the rinse cycle of her laundry so that she is constantly dressing herself in it.

You could also use two figure candles - one named for her and dressed in her zodiac oil, and one named for you and dressed in your zodiac oil. Each day move them further apart. You could have a Seperation 7-day vigil candle burning in the back of them, forming a triangle of manifestation. Keep the jar that you made in the middle once there is space between the two figure candles. Work that whole thing every day and you should see some good movement.

There's alot of different things you could try. I'm sure some other workers on here will have some other ideas for you!

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:51 pm

Cedar wood chips are used in such cases (found here) http://herb-magic.com/cedar-wood-chips.html

You may want to search the forum for an ammonia bottle...if I remember correctly was used in a similar situation as you described.

I understand that you want something less coercive.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:14 pm

I'd create a Commanding and Banishing bottle. Take her personal concern and put it in a bottle with a mix of Banishing products and Commanding products and command her to move out. What you can do is burn a purple candle with Banishing and Compelling Oil (to make her make good on her promise to move, you can also use Essence of Bend Over or Controlling Oil), command the candle to add heat to the bottle, tell her she's feeling the heat and pressure on her and that she needs to leave. A good trick is to waft a bit of the incense of your choice (again work with products mentioned) into the bottle while telling her that feels the pressure building on her. This is a gentle, but firm way of getting out.

Consider also helping her out on the job aspect so that she has the *ability* to move out on her own.

Finally, you can work with her footrack to make her leave gently. If you find a foot track of hers that is entering your house, use a tool to lift the foot track (try to keep it intact) then reverse it so that it is walking away from your house. Sprinkle a bit of Banishing Powder and she'll walk right out of your home. Similarly, you can grab her foottrack and mix it with Banishing/ Separation powder and then sprinkle the mix at each crossroads until you've "walked" her out of town. You can also sprinkle Banishing and Commanding Powder around your house or her room to help infect her feet with your intention.

Also consider washing your front walk way with a mixture of Black Pepper and Salt and you use a broom to sweep her out of your home.

Good luck.

Prettykila · Unread post by **Prettykila** » Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:57 pm

All of these are great. I will bear this a little bit longer to make sure that she gets a job and will implement St Expedite in the spell to make this all go faster. Hopefully one of her friends will open up their arms once they see that she has something to contribute.

theusurper · Unread post by **theusurper** » Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:50 pm

i have the same problem but i dont want to do nothing drastic. so, can i put a sock with banishing power and the oil in the bottle and shake everyday saying what i want to him to do?

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:06 pm

You can certainly use the bottle while using the sock as a personal concern. Make sure the sock is a used one, not washed, toss it in the bottle and shake it up.

LilCassandra · Unread post by **LilCassandra** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:08 pm

I'm going to a birthday party followed by an engagement party for two of my partners in a few weeks. They're concerned that one of the people attending will bring someone that no one wants there. They've warned him not to bring her, but he keeps suggesting he will. Other than an outright conflict where we all have to throw the couple out, are their ways to keep her from going?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:10 pm

I would put this person in a freezer jar, and in the freezer jar I would some barberry, poppy seeds, knot weed and black mustard seeds.

LilCassandra · Unread post by **LilCassandra** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:14 pm

The last time we tried a freezer jar on this bitch, it exploded. I don't know if I did it wrong or what. :-/.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:20 pm

Hmm was it a glass jar? I would try a plastic one....or you could make a baby doll with the same ingredients, and send it on its merrily way in a river. I would bind the arms and the legs together,and then I would throw it in the ocean or river.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:21 pm

And make sure you include him in the freezer jar as well.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:53 pm

You can mix some Barberry, Salt, and Black Pepper and sprinkle this on this person's door step if you know where they live. If you don't go to the party early and put a line across the entrance and call out that person's name saying that they are unable to cross and come in.

I'd also include these ingredients in a Freezer box to freeze that person out completely.

suzyparker · Unread post by **suzyparker** » Tue May 04, 2010 1:12 pm

what to do, what to do? We all know this person. they take and take and take. When they need you, you're number one. when they don't need anything, get the heck lost. What's the approrpriate handling? Cut and Clear and move on with your life? Reversal work? It's someone I've known forever and have to see every day. Way too much drama though and I'm tired of the games.

To the point I would be willing to terminate the friendship, except for the fact we have to see each other daily and that would make things even worse.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Tue May 04, 2010 2:01 pm

I don't waste time with this type; I just drop them, they get the picture...btw, I wasn't practicing when they were in my life, but now, I would banish them.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Tue May 04, 2010 2:06 pm

I personally don't keep those people in my life for very long at all. As soon as their true colors are exposed, I discontinue the relationship. I don't need any conjure to help me do that, either! LOL.

However, obviously that's harder when you work together. I've been in situations like that, and I wish I had known about Cut and Clear at the time, I tell you what!

Cut and Clear isn't going to make your relationship worse, it's just going to free you from the emotional ties that you have to that person. It makes it a lot easier to just cool things off and bring it to a strictly civil level, rather than feeling that you *HAVE* to be all BFF with this person when you see them. You could do a Cut and Clear to help you detach from any feelings of obligation to be anything more than workmates with this person, and you can do a variation on a freezer spell using the fridge to cool her off of you. Use your intent to clearly state that this is to chill your relationship out, so that you can both just be civil to each other. Use Separation products to help make the cut between you two friendly and mutual, without any hard-feelings or nastiness. You'll probably just find that they get busy with their own life and leave you out of it.

suzyparker · Unread post by **suzyparker** » Tue May 04, 2010 2:45 pm

Thanks JJ. I just came home, did a cleansing bath and started a cut & clear candle with a very specific petition. Don't want to even end the friendship, totally - just need to detach my own feelings from him. I cannot let his moods control mine or seek his approval, etc. I deserve more than that. I have been a great friend to him for years, and yet he takes me for granted and that hurts. So my cut & clear is his approval, opinion no longer matters to me. We are friends but I'm emotionally over it

PS - I just got an email from him (nice ) but I am not responding. that's the sort of thing I want to stop. I don't want to be at someone else's capricious whim. I deserve at least a 50/50 friendship. no more 90/10s

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Tue May 04, 2010 3:11 pm

Those type people show themselves sooner than later; handle it how you feel comfortable. When I was young I didn't practice in the 3 strike rule; but created the 1 strike rule, if you do it once you will do it again...handle your business suzyparker.

suzyparker · Unread post by **suzyparker** » Tue May 04, 2010 3:19 pm

Jwm , you are correct.. I like your one strike rule. that tends to be the case and I may embrace that going forward.

there are a lot of takers in the world and I'm all for giving but when I feel someone is taking advantage of me.. nope.. all done, have fun with that. I don't wish you any ill, I don't even want to end the friendship, I'm just not being your BFF when you need/want something and the "help" the rest of the time. I deserve better - we all do.

sweetie · Unread post by **sweetie** » Tue May 04, 2010 8:18 pm

I'm with jwmcclin. I treat everyone as if they deserve my respect until they manage to prove me wrong. People users will always show who they are, sooner or later.

If the person keeps coming around to your house, besides the cut and clear you can also toss some salt out after them when they go to leave (to drive their evil out with them.) Some people are subtle about this, I'm not-- I'll toss it right at their heels as they are stepping over the threshold to leave the house, just a pinch will do. It only takes a few times before they won't bother coming over any more. It also works at the threshold of a gate (but might be a bit more athletic since you'd have to run out the path after them.)

Maybe someone here has an email equivalent?

misslicorice · Unread post by **misslicorice** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:20 pm

Hi, everyone! I've lurked on this forum for quite a while. It's fascinating to read.

I was wondering what kind of work would be best for this situation. My mother is married to a man whose grown son wants to move back in with them so he can live rent-free, trash their house and have no responsibilities, the way it was when he was a teenager. The son is a hateful, trouble-making person. The police have come to my mother's house more than once to look for him, and I worry for her physical safety. At the very least, he will do her emotional harm with his disrespectful and foul attitude.

His father, meanwhile, makes endless excuses for him and will give him anything he asks for.
I don't want him to suffer or be driven away from his father completely (which is what I think Hot Foot would do, but correct me if I'm wrong). My main goal is to keep him out of the house. Would Fiery Wall of Protection be the best choice?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:34 pm

I would do some clarity work and wisdom of solomon to help your mother's husband make a smart decision about not letting him move back in. If you want, you can do some compelling work to make him think that this is not a good idea due to he does not pay rent nor does he have respect for their house.

For the son, I would do a freezer jar, and ask that he be frozen from their address to move in. I do not think hot foot would be totally adequate as you do not want him to be driven away from his father. If you wanted you could, do a simple controlling spell to control him from moving in with them.

Shadileigh · Unread post by **Shadileigh** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:36 pm

My plate is full with my own personal concerns, but I just can't casually tell my friends to deal with their own problems. Life would be so much easier if I could.

Basically one of my good friends was dating my cousin, who broke up with her for one of her friends. He continued to have an affair with my friend while he was with his new gf. My friend recently ended the affair out of shame and guilt. What a tangled web.

Now she is blowing up my phone asking for advise, wanting to get him back, but at the same time, get over him. I told her that she needed to put some distance between herself and him (i.e. stop answering his calls/texts, don't see him, block him from her facebook, etc.) so that she could evaluate the situation more clearly without having him there as a distraction. I am hoping she will get over him, because as much as I love my cousin, he's a bit of a "player". Every time I think I've convinced her that Im giving her good advise, she comes up with a new obstacle or reason for why she shouldnt take it.

I feel like Im talking to a wall!

So I would like to do a road opener for her and maybe something else to help her get over him, but I don't have any of their personal concerns since since they both live in another state. Would a picture or name sheet work well enough?

Any other suggestions?

thelightfantastic · Unread post by **thelightfantastic** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:56 pm

A picture or name paper can be used, yes.

As for suggestions - a cut and clear done on her behalf probably wouldn't be effective as it sounds like she's still not ready to move on. You can't really force someone to move on if they're not ready. I personally don't see the point in doing road opening work for her as the obstacles in her way are more of her own creation and can be easily removed by her without any need for magic.

You could work on doing some healing and clarity work for her as it's obvious she's not entirely over the break up/affair and she needs something to help her see that the ex probably isn't worth all this drama.

Lily · Unread post by **Lily** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:34 pm

That's easy -- find her a new man!

Work a moving candle spell for her so that she meets a new guy. That will help her forget all about your cousin.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:45 pm

Work some Clarity products on this person to help clear up their indecisiveness and confusion over what they want.

Draw and attract a new man into her life.

Shadileigh · Unread post by **Shadileigh** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:22 pm

She definitely is creating her own obstacles, and my cousin is adding a few of his own. The reason I thought about doing the road opening was not just to remove obstacles in love, but any potential others in the avenues of luck and health.

She's tried dating other men, but the relationships don't work out for whatever reason and she runs back to him. I will definitely work some healing and clarity for her, and possibly the moving candle (or would the lodestones and red candle be stronger?? Never tried it)

But now that I think of it, I know a great match for her!