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Unread post by josdos » Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:51 pm

Thank you! I was a little confused, i didnt carve the names, but i did annoit on top around the wick and prayed over it.

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Unread post by Devi Spring » Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:56 pm

If you're using a petition paper underneath the candle, then carving the name into it isn't as important. It's just making sure the candle is well linked to the intended target.
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Unread post by jwmcclin » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:01 pm

I read about 'knocking' a candle and its purpose was to seal the candle...although I have not used this method yet... In response to your question josdos, another method is to use your index finger in a counter clockwise motion (for drawing spellwork) mix the oils, herbs, incense etc from the candles' outer edge to the wick...if repelling, clockwise from the wick to the edge...while focusing on my intent.

I have also read where some people baptize the candle in a person's name.

So as Devi stated candle dressing is personal preference.
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Unread post by Flamethrower » Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:08 am

This isn't so much a hoodoo trick as it is a suggestion on how to burn candles outdoors.

I reached a point where I needed to stop burning candles inside my house due to worsening allergies, so I improvised using a NEW cat litter box (with the snap-on cover, of course) for positive work, and an OLD litter box for break up spells, etc. The boxes are set on concrete away from the grass and anything that could catch on fire.

It gets a bit windy here, so the covered box protects the flame, but I'll remove the box cover on calm evenings. Make sure you buy the BIG litter boxes, since I think the heat from the candle flames might warp or melt the top part of a smaller box lid.

You can line the box with a few inches of sand if you're worried about the candles tipping.

I still keep an altar inside the house for jars and rootwork, but most candle and incense work takes place outside, in one of the boxes.

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Unread post by GoddessMojo » Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:12 am

lining the lid with some foil might also protect the box from warping or damage from heat.
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Unread post by JayDee » Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:47 pm

if you have a garage you can burn candles in there. place em on a pan in the center on a table. if there is not a lot of stuff around it should be a safe burning place.
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Unread post by JayDee » Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:57 pm

iv read clockwise to draw and counter to remove thats how i always dressed my candles.. but I must say its confusing every book, or convo you have their is a different method and reason for the method lol.
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Unread post by Mother Mystic » Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:25 am

I've been able to trim the wick on a burning candle using a wick trimmer. As long as you don't trim below the flame, you should be able to trim the ball and retrieve it from the wax with a pair of tweezers.
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Unread post by ConjureMan » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:20 pm

Personally, I only trim candles that I burn over a period of daying while snuffing them out and relighting them. If the wick gets big, then I trim. For candles that I burn straight through I don't trim. I feel that part of the divination can be seen in the wick itself. Some times I get the effect you discussed while other times it burns without the wick getting out of control. I think that's just me. Usually when I light a candle like that I light and then leave it be as I go about other business. I don't know, maybe other people trim their wicks with such short candles.
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Unread post by Flamethrower » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:39 pm

Happy New Year!

So I understand that there is no "correct" way of anointing free-standing candles, yet I still would like input from others in the LM forum. Does anyone write their intentions and/or names with a nail on the candles for honey jars? From base to wick or top to bottom?

I usually burn 7-day glass candles, but have switched to free-standing candles within the last few months. I was taught to anoint from bottom to wick for positive/drawing work, and anoint from wick to bottom for negative/break up work. However, I'm not seeing any type of manifestation in several disparate endeavors and wondered if it could be attributed to the way I've been prepping my candles.

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Unread post by jujugirl » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:08 am

Hi everyone!

I recently purchased a few candle buring books from LM. It has quite confused me :lol: According to the Master book of Candle Buring by Henri Gamache, he does not mention a specific ritual for dressing and blessing a candle to remove the negative influences. The book The Magic Candle by Charmaine Dey goes into detail on these subjects.

Anyone have a suggestion for me?

Thank you and blessings in advance :D

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Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:44 am

1. Cleanse the candle ( you can do this with florida water, holy water,and/or ammonia) I usually stroke this down from wick to base in an odd number of times such as 3 5 7 or 9. If you are using a glass encased candle aka a vigil candle, put the previously mentioned cleansing wash, and you may even have to use a clean white towel to get out any dust or what not. The purpose of this is to cleanse the candle from any previous energies negative or that are not yours. In addition, this is to cleanse actual dirt on the candle.

2. Get a push pin/nail and write the person's name on one side of the candle, and the intention on another side. For waxing moon/positive works (love, money, drawing work, protecting work) you are going to write the persons name from base to wick. And then the command such as "draw money to me" from base to wick on another side of the candle. For waning moon/negative work (cursing, cleansing, banishing work) you are going to write the person's name from wick to base. And then the command such as " Remove the obstacles" for example on another side of the candle. If you are using a figure candle you can do it the same way. If you are using a knob candle. you would write on each knob, obviously you do not have a choice in writing it from base to wick or wick to base. For glass encased candles you can write directly on to the candle glass in the same fashion. I know some people who do not do this.

3. I usually put the oil on my candles first because it helps the herbs, and powders stick to the candle better. I put the oil in my hand, and then stroke upwards from base to wick or wick to base depending up if I am doing positive or negative work (see above). Set that to the side, and then prepare your herbal or curio mix if you decide to use some. If the herbs are bigger, then you may have to grind them up into powder. Once I have figured out what powders/herbs I am going to use. I roll my candle in the mixture so that it covers the entire candle. However you want to do this is up to you.You can use a spoon and dust the candle that way as well. If you are using a glass encased candle, then put the mixture inside. Be careful not to you use TOO much oil and herbs. It can case the candle not to burn right, and can cause it to burn sooty. To help this you can poke holes in the wax, use an odd number if you want such as 3, 5, 7, or 9, and put a few drops of each oil in the holes along with the herbal mixture. Or you can lightly dust the top of the candle wax with the herbal mixture.

Remember you do not need to put in the entire bottle of oil, or package of herbs or powder. You only need a little.

Then you would go on to prepare your name paper/photo or personal item/or petition, and place it under the candle. If you choose you can light your incense. From here you can recite, the prayer, petition, command or speak what you want to happen.

Alright hopefully I explained that good enough. Let me know if anyone has any questions.
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Unread post by jwmcclin » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:41 am

I have followed the same procedure with appropriate results. To add a note...you can also draw astrological symbols in (jar) or on (astral) candles or crave $ signs when drawing money, heart signs when drawing love or the appropriate planetary symbol. Sometimes I baptize the candle in the name of the person, sometimes I include a personal concern such as hair/nails/piece of cloth... These are just a few additional thoughts.
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Unread post by Devi Spring » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:32 am

The reason there is a discrepancy between the books is because there is no one way to clean and dress candles. Different practitioners use different methods. So read a few books, hear what a few practitioners have to say, and then start experimenting with the different styles, starting with methods that seemed to "click" for you the first time you read about them.

Stars method is very common. Jwmcclin also brings up common points. So just see what appeals to you and start practicing.
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Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:13 am

JW's method is great too. I like to use symbols, and a friend of mine actually likes to use colored glue pins, or glue glitter on the outside of her glass candles to draw her symbols. Or she just uses a sharpie.

True, like Devi said. I just use this method because its worked for me. Not to mention its the simpliest that I have encountered..
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Unread post by gingerly88 » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:04 pm

I ordered 3 fixed vigil candles..Return to Me, Fast Luck, & Intranquil Spirit. Could I light them all at once in order to back each other up or should they be lit seperately. The all have the same target in mind.

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Unread post by gingerly88 » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:28 pm

Also in reading the posts on intranquil spirit, I was seeing that extra work may need to be done afterwards..would lighting a honey jar in the same room work towards this or should this be used AFTER the lover has returned?

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Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:39 pm

I would light the honey jar now. Since honey jars take a while to work. In addition, why do you need ALL 3 candles. Fast luck in terms of reconcilation is most likely going to fail depending upon the circumstances. I would leave that out. Return to me is okay to do and is reinforcing the intranquil spirit. Leave out the fast luck...I dont see it being helpful and I know you want to rush stuff but like it has been said you cant rush these things sometimes. Not to mention there is really no point in rushing the intranquil spirit. If anything you should do a love me candle after they are responsive to the work or you can work a love me light on the honey jar.
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Unread post by ConjureMan » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:27 pm

If you get a third candle other than Fast Luck, consider placing them in a triangle around your honey jar as you burn. This usually reinforces and energizes the work with particular vibrations. The triangle formation can contain and direct energy really well. Consider burning your honey jar in the middle with Return to Me, Reconciliation, and Come to Me, or you can toss a Healing one to heal all hurts.
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Unread post by skyme714 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:12 am

Thank you, Star! This was really helpful. I had a question which you answered in #2, exactly when to write up or down. I make notes when I find useful info, and in my previous notes it stated the opposite, meaning another person said to draw things to write them on a candle from wick to base!!! I would always write horizontally, but recently it didnt fit, so I followed the wrong advice.. but something felt wrong, I did have doubts about it. Now I know I was right! Thanks again!
starsinthesky7 wrote:2. Get a push pin/nail and write the person's name on one side of the candle, and the intention on another side. For waxing moon/positive works (love, money, drawing work, protecting work) you are going to write the persons name from base to wick. And then the command such as "draw money to me" from base to wick on another side of the candle. For waning moon/negative work (cursing, cleansing, banishing work) you are going to write the person's name from wick to base.

Alright hopefully I explained that good enough. Let me know if anyone has any questions.

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Unread post by ConjureMan » Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:23 am

There isn't really one way to anoint. Its a matter of personal preference while sticking withing the general principles of conjure. Some people anoint from wick to base for drawing and from base to wick for banishing/break up/control etc. Other's do the reverse. Some people say to point the candle towards you (either wick or base) if you are drawing to yourself, and to point the candle away so you are drawing away from you. Other say that you need to start in the middle and need to anoint going outwards, first from middle to wick, then from middle to base.

Ultimately, its up to you. Study what work you plan on doing, go through the motions in your head, play them out in real life and see what feels right, what flows properly and you'll know then what to use.
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Unread post by skyme714 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:21 pm

ConjureMan wrote:Ultimately, its up to you. Study what work you plan on doing, go through the motions in your head, play them out in real life and see what feels right, what flows properly and you'll know then what to use.
True! 1 candle is easier to figure out. Im planning on doing moving candle spell with 4 candles, thats gonna be more difficult. I will follow your advice, ConjureMan. Thank you!

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Unread post by skyme714 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:09 pm

jwmcclin wrote:
I have also read where some people baptize the candle in a person's name.
Can you baptise novena candles too?

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Unread post by ConjureMan » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:40 pm

I've never really heard of baptizing a novena candle, but I have heard of baptizing a picture of an individual and then pasting it on the candle, vigil, or novena. This can be used to influence a person's mind, to build communication, and to keep constant pressure on the individual.
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Unread post by skyme714 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:53 pm

Oh yeah, that I need! Thank you, ConjureMan! :)

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Unread post by jwmcclin » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:19 pm

I learn something new every time I read this forum. That is good information ConjureMan.
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Unread post by skyme714 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:12 pm

I just thought of something.. before discarding a doll that was baptise in the name of someone, you have to unbaptise it to free the doll of spirit. What about baptise candle? The candle burns, and the spirit is gone? Do i have to do anything to a candle to unbaptise it? (I dont wanna hold someone's spirit without even knowing it) Thank you!

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Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:52 pm

The reason why you baptize a candle is to have that candle or doll represent the person. It has nothing to do with the actual spirit per se. So if you were doing a candle...a pink figure candle you would baptize or name the doll as John Rock. You want it to be connected to the target so that you can affect them.
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Unread post by skyme714 » Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:31 am

I asked because I read about dolls to unbaptise them before disposing of them, to let the spirit of the person out (not to bury it).
So I guess I dont have to worry about that (that I might somehow hurt another person by trying to make good to them). Thank you, Star!

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Unread post by skyme714 » Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:16 pm

I found why I was talking about spirit while pabtising a candle. One way to baptise that I found here was: make a cross over and say:"Candle, you are now John Smith. All his qualities are now yours. His spirit is yours. You are John Smith. So be it!"
Thats why I was afraid to cpture the spirit and then not realising it.

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Unread post by ConjureMan » Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:14 pm

Some workers draw the spirit of an individual into a doll, effigy, or object of any kind. This type of summoning does require a dismissal, when working with a novena candle or picture, Stars is right you don't have to release the spirit since either the candle is burnt down, or the you haven't actually summoned their spirit.
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Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:16 am

Yep...you can definitely do that. I know that somewhere on this site thats how it was recommended to baptize baby doll. You can do it that way or you could just say this doll represents so and so.
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Unread post by MysticRootworker » Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:19 pm

If I do the picture on a candle and Baptise it in my targets name, I was thinking I would use a glass encased candle. So my question is after I do the spell, how would I dispose of the picture and candle? I am doing this to influence him in a romantic situation. Also any other suggestions on this spell I would be open to the information.
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Unread post by ConjureMan » Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:47 pm

You can baptize the picture and stick it onto a glass vigil candle dressed with your oils and herbs. Light it while praying over your intentions then speak to the picture, speak to them lovingly and sweetly as if you were speaking to the person. As the candle burns the flame of your intention burns into their thoughts. Once you've completed it bury in your front yard to attract them.
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Unread post by stelselv » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:51 am

I have a question about vigil candles.. I am interested in placing orders for candles such as attraction, uncrossing, reversal.....etc... I am not doing a Novena so i would not want to burn them with in 7 days or so.... I was thinking more like burning them for 10mins every day, as and when I have a petition..... it is going to take a long time.. or must the vigil candles be burnt within 7 days........

I was also thinking of ordering saints vigil candles, to burn them as thank you candles.... I want to burn them only when I say prayers...

has anyone tried this method... it would be nice to hear from you.... or any creative suggestions... thanks for your reply.....
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Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:07 am

No it does not have to be burnt down within 7 days. Honestly, there is no one way to burn vigil candles. They are sort of supplementary to the work you are doing, or they are simple spells that you can do. In addition, they're good to keep heat on situation. So try this out. When I am doing candles for myself, I burn them for however long I can that day. Sometimes I dont like to leave them on. In addition, when it comes to saint candles you can leave thank you candles. People do this often. But if you want to concentrate on a candle, and burn a candle for 10 minutes I see that as doing a spell and burning it over 7 days for example, but you are just doing it for longer. So I dont see a problem with this.
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Unread post by stelselv » Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:06 am

this is great, thanks very much STSK7

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Unread post by Turnsteel » Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:13 pm

Do keep in mind tho that pinching them out and re lighting them gets to be a real pain when they start to get low, I find lighting a bamboo skewer( their like 5$ for 50 of them here) and using that to relight them works very well, cheaper them long fireplace matches too :)
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Unread post by stelselv » Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:59 am

thanks very much again HD and STSK7... appreciate all your posts and creative ideas....

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Unread post by MysticRootworker » Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:21 am

Thanks again CM.

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Unread post by jazzie » Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:30 pm

I have been curious about this for a while.

I have burned seven day candles with the petition papers underneath the glass. What can I do with the empty glass candles and the petition papers?

I don't have a yard by the way, thus burial is not an option.

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Unread post by ConjureMan » Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:31 pm

You can bury them in potted plants. The glasses can be kept and reused.
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Unread post by jazzie » Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:35 pm

Thanks for the quick reply. But, isn't there another more practical alternative than the potted plants?

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Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:08 pm

You can do any of these methods that are appropriate with your work.
http://www.luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html

If you do not have a yard, put it in a potted plant. Sometimes we must do things that we do not like to do for the sake of the work. The only other options i could suggest to you is to put it under a floor mat. Otherwise if you do not do this, then consider your work incomplete.
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Unread post by skyme714 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:11 am

Sorry, if I come out ignorant on this one.. I have always thought of burning petition at some point, but can you also bury it in the ground??? :shock:

P.S. See the more I read the more I get confused :mrgreen:

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Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:15 am

Please read the link above, and see what burning a petition does. Yes, you can bury it in the ground, but where you want it into the ground depends on your intentions.
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Unread post by skyme714 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:09 am

Yes Star, I read that link back and forth, back and forth... but as I said, the more I read on the forum from dif people, the more I get confused.

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Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:36 am

I dont understand what you are confused about. Please explain.
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Unread post by skyme714 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:16 am

Ok. Since some time ago I read this forum everyday to expand my knowledge, and learn how correctly to do the job. Until now I thought you have to burn the petition.. not that you really HAVE TO, I understand that there is no set rules. But I read like "million" threads on the forum, and this is the first that mentions burial of petition.
A also read info on LM site and there is a lot of interesting information, as well as page about how to lay the tricks. Although for me, Id rather listen to people on the forum, (who do the job and have results) and follow their lead, then I'd do something out of general information page.
I have never heard about burying petition until this thread.
Reading here about Hoodoo work, I think I got it for the most part. I try not to ask too many questions but the ones I ask is because Im afraid to mess up like for ex. you said "...then consider your work incomplete". I dont want that happen to me, not to complete my work and be waiting for results. Also, some of the ritual disposals are unavailable to me, thats why Im always interested what other methods are available, like planting wax in a plant by the door or so.
At some point Im afraid to burn petition not to cancel out the spell (I burn them mostly after I get what I asked for).
I know about buriing bottles, wax, dolls (they are like whole complete spell), but was unaware of buriing petition (as it is only part of spell).
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Unread post by Nathaniel » Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:29 am

hi all. i wanted to know if you are dressing a free standing candle like a taper candle to attract and you wish to dress the candle by stroking the oil towards you which way is the candle directed as you stroke it? Is the the top/tip or the bottom pointing towards you? And just the opposite, if you are repelling or getting rid of something as you are dressing the candle by stroking the oil away from yourself which way is the candle pointing as you hold it? or does the direction of the candle even matter?




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Unread post by Turnsteel » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:44 am

There is no standard on this. Everyone has their own take on it. Do what makes most sense to you.
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Unread post by adam283 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:51 pm

how I do it and how I have read in "The Master Book of Candle Burning" is that the candle has 2 poles like a magnet so to turn the candle sideways in front of you and anoint the right half of the candle from the middle to the bottom with your desired LM oil turning it towards you to bring your desires towards you, then flip the candle and anoint the other half turning the candle towards you to attract, if you wish to repel simply rotate the candle away from you as you anoint it.

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Unread post by jazzie » Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:24 pm

starsinthesky7 wrote:You can do any of these methods that are appropriate with your work.
http://www.luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html

If you do not have a yard, put it in a potted plant. Sometimes we must do things that we do not like to do for the sake of the work. The only other options i could suggest to you is to put it under a floor mat. Otherwise if you do not do this, then consider your work incomplete.
In that case, would I have to buy a potted plant for each petition? Or can I just use one potted plant for all of them?
All of the petitions deal with drawing-positive work.

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Unread post by Turnsteel » Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:25 pm

jazzie wrote: In that case, would I have to buy a potted plant for each petition? Or can I just use one potted plant for all of them?
All of the petitions deal with drawing-positive work.

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I think you'll be fine with just one plant, I can't say I'm sure since I have a yard, but I don't see a problem with one plant.
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Unread post by jwmcclin » Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:48 pm

I finally located a glass recycling location and that I where I take my empty containers. I say a prayer and thank the saints or spirits. If there is left over candle wax, for drawing spells, I bury in my front yard or in my back yard. For negative spell work, i throw to the crossroad. I keep petition papers to re use.
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Unread post by jwmcclin » Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:06 pm

I agree with both of you. I consider the wick as the top and stroke upward when drawing and downward when repelling or banishing.
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Unread post by jazzie » Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:17 pm

Confused.

So, some bury it and others keep it for re-use. Jwmcclin, do your tricks still work despite not burying the petition paper?

I fail to understand the reason burying the petition paper would be necessary. I would think that the meat is actually in the leftover incense and wax but not on the petition paper. There are people who don't even use petition papers at all with seven-day candles but oh well, in my case, since it is a left-over then I do need to do something with it.

I will be repeating this trick this month also...so I don't know what would be best yet, whether to reuse the petition paper or bury it.

Now, I wonder.

Would placing them under the carpet of my apartment work?

I am just being honest with myself here, I am awful at keeping plants. They always die on me and to me, if the plant dies then my petition will die with it. I can completely understand the reason the backyard option is more manageable.

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Unread post by Turnsteel » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:24 pm

all we can really say is, try it. Their isn't a big book of conjure rules somewhere to look these things up. Is what you asking all that traditional? Well, yes and no, use it as a substitute for the front yard isn't very traditional, but fixing a five spot in a room is a very old trick. So, give it a try, other wise you'll never know :D
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Unread post by starsinthesky7 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:10 am

If you have been burning the petition, and have been seeing results, then fine go with that. But its not just about the petitions its about the remains. UNLESS its a vigil candle, as you probably wont find anyone burying the whole entire glass candle. Burying the remains are not necessary. HOWEVER picking a means of disposal is necessary depending upon your intent. It is like putting a period at the end of your spell work and allowing for it to take effect. It is the conclusion of the work you have done. So you may not find yourself being able to bury a trick at your target's house, or being able to go to a crossroads at 5am in the morning, but there has to be some means of deployment and disposal. Believe me its hard for me to find a crossroads to go to and keep on going. But let me tell you getting lazy about it...is not going to help you. When you are doing negative work...the idea is to get those remains AWAY from you. I know people who do egg spells and they dispose of it down the toilet. Or some people may not have a running river by them but they may have a sewage drain and do it that way. Personally, I dont go to the crossroads for break up work or enemy work..I like to go to the railroad tracks. It is more violent for someone to get run over by a train or for the relationship to get "hit" that way. Sometimes you have to think slightly outside of the box. However, burning a petition? How has that been working for you? If it has been working for you, then perhaps that works for you. But if it hasnt been working for you then I would recommend that you do it the more conventional and tradition way.

This goes for spellwork in general, before you go and want to change something around alter it...swap out ingredients...and thing of doing it a different way. Try following the directions FIRST, and try doing it the traditional way. Then if you find out other ways of experimenting to achieve what you want...then fine. But when you are first starting out I recommend sticking to the traditional ways, to prevent yourself from being overwhelmed. So i would pick two ways of deployment. One for positive work or when you want to keep something NEAR YOU, and then another for getting something AWAY.
skyme714 wrote:Ok. Since some time ago I read this forum everyday to expand my knowledge, and learn how correctly to do the job. Until now I thought you have to burn the petition.. not that you really HAVE TO, I understand that there is no set rules. But I read like "million" threads on the forum, and this is the first that mentions burial of petition.
A also read info on LM site and there is a lot of interesting information, as well as page about how to lay the tricks. Although for me, Id rather listen to people on the forum, (who do the job and have results) and follow their lead, then I'd do something out of general information page.
I have never heard about burying petition until this thread.
Reading here about Hoodoo work, I think I got it for the most part. I try not to ask too many questions but the ones I ask is because Im afraid to mess up like for ex. you said "...then consider your work incomplete". I dont want that happen to me, not to complete my work and be waiting for results. Also, some of the ritual disposals are unavailable to me, thats why Im always interested what other methods are available, like planting wax in a plant by the door or so.
At some point Im afraid to burn petition not to cancel out the spell (I burn them mostly after I get what I asked for).
I know about buriing bottles, wax, dolls (they are like whole complete spell), but was unaware of buriing petition (as it is only part of spell).
Sorry, if I couldnt describe it any better :) it is 5am outside :)
Thank u St. Martha for everything you have done on my behalf.
Thank u St. Elena! I appreciate your great help.
Thank you St. Peter for opening the gates&roads!

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Re: Candles: How to Trim Carve Load Petition Pray Dress Arrange Light

Unread post by Nathaniel » Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:08 am

thanks. but i thought you could just anoint the candle from the bottom all the way up to the top to attract and the opposite to repel.

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