Lucky Mojo Hoodoo Rootwork Hour 11/16/05: Power of the Mind in Hoodoo (Miss Cat, Dr. Kioni)

[catherineyronwode]

Thank you Dr. Kioni for a wonderfully empowering finale to this
season;s run of Lucky Mojo Hoodoo Rootwork Hours shows! Not only do you
run the entire tevhnival end of things, you have an incredible amount
to contribute as a speaker and teacher. Like others, i was in awe of
your command of the concept of using the MIND as a power in hoodoo
rootwork. It was a great show.

For those who missed it, "The Power of the Mind in Hoodoo" will be
available soon through Dr. Kioni's radio show archive and via itunes /
podcast.

For the next 13 weeks there will be no live shows, but reruns will be
played during our regular Wednesday night slot -- 10:00 pm - 11:00 pm
Eastern Time.

Thanks to all our fins panelists -- Dara, Robin, Eoghan, siva, Dr.
Kioni -- and to our regular network of call-in participants who ask
such great questions and make such insightful comments.

We'll be back with an all-new line-up of shows in about three months.

In the meantime, i hope that Dr. K. posts the titles of the reruns
each week, for those who wish to lsiten in that way rather than by
downloading from the archives.

catherine yronwode

[Auntie Sindy Todo]

catherine yronwode wrote:

> > Thank you Dr. Kioni for a wonderfully empowering finale to this
> season;s run of Lucky Mojo Hoodoo Rootwork Hours shows! Not only do you
> run the entire tevhnival end of things, you have an incredible amount
> to contribute as a speaker and teacher. Like others, i was in awe of
> your command of the concept of using the MIND as a power in hoodoo
> rootwork. It was a great show.

Cat, Dr. K. et al...What an insightful show you all gave us. Thank you again
for providing this genuine community which enables us to have support, share
in
each other's brilliance and create flow within it. I am deeply grateful (and
therefore abundant).
I truly believe that the power of our mind is a tool to reach consciousness,
and this is
where all blessings flow and where we live, so that we may do our work.--

Sindy

[MissMichaele]

Cat, you happened to mention that you and Siva are studying the Bible
lately. Are you just reading straight through, nibbling at
verses/stories at random, or using a commentary?

(We started out with randomly selected divinatory "red verses" (New Testament, Jesus' speeches) in a King James Version Masonic Bible, with occasional peeps at Stong's Exhaustive Concordance for linguistic help -- but so many of those passages refer to earlier Tanach verses, that we ended up browsing the legelese sections of the Tanach, which i enjoyed, but siva found tedious, so we next moved on to the story of Samson, a chapter per day, and that was fun, which led me to suggest that we read the entire Book of Esther, at the same chapeter per day rate, which siva also agreed to, provided that we switched from the King James to a modern Jewish Tanach -- so we are now using the Jewish Publication Study Bible Tanakh, which is very helpful for siva, as it gives detailed study notes on Jewish religious references that the King James and other Christian translations don't have. I have a hankering to do the Book of Ruth next, but we also have some interest in Daniel. It's kinda fun. I have read the Bible through and through several times myself, but never with a study partner. It adds a diminesion of itnerest to it. --cat)

If you're into commentaries, can you recommend one for someone who
thinks Bishop Spong is just the livin' end? (Yeah, I know his history
is dodgy; he's an intuitive theologian.)

(I am not much for commentaries of the type you mention. I think the JPS Study Bible is great, though. This is not the JPS Hebrew / English side-by-side version, but the one sold as a "Study Bible," with maps and all such. It costs about $45.00 at Barnes and Noble. --cat)

If I could find a church where they play Coltrane live*, sing and pray
like the BlackHawk churches and write sermons like Bishop Spong, I'd
stay there for life.

Michaele / Mother Pyrite

*St. John's African Orthodox Church, aka the Church of St. John
Coltrane, in San Francisco. Seriously. I posted about my one visit
there this past summer.

[Quimbisero]

I've never been much of a Bible fan, although I have had a fair
exposure to it. One thing I have done and have found very interesting
though has been to compare selected passages in different versions of
the Bible.

I have done so in several langauges but what I most enjoyed was the
Moffit version of the Bible in English. The Moffit Bible was published
in the early 20th Century. It made an attempt to combine a more modern
language with more careful direct translations of early Greek texts
and drew upon modern understandings of history. One of the results,
for example was the loss of "the wise men who travelled out of the
east." In the Moffit Bible it refers to "three Astrologers who came
from Persia." That strikes me as fairly radical for it's time.

In anycase, it was the most fun I ever had with the Bible.

Eoghan

[Magus Thom Potter]

Quimbisero wrote:

> > I've never been much of a Bible fan, although I have had a fair
> exposure to it. One thing I have done and have found very interesting
> though has been to compare selected passages in different versions of
> the Bible.

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» *Thom says:*~ As a big fan of Qabalah I have found various extracts
from the Hebrew Testament to be more than suitable for spells. I
especially like keeping the spell in its Hebrew state, because with
Qabalah, one learns its mathematical nature, which in turn shares
qualities with a Platonic perspective on Nature. Within the Massoretic
Text (the one with the punctuation, verse numbering, vowel and accent
marks) the trop (accept marks) double as music notation. Even if you
choose your own music for a spell (acceptable, they do it in the temples
all the time) the trop can help with memory of text, as well as moving
the spell up a couple of notches in vibration.

I have not had as much satisfaction with the Christian testament, but I
expect that is more because I have not been as exposed to the language
(I was contemplating becoming Jewish for over a year, and that gave me
the leg up on Qabalah). Yet I would add that some verses there prove
promising, as well.

As for translations: I have the Jewish Publication Society's Hebrew
English TNK, and a cheap dictionary. I also prefer the Oxford University
Press New Revised Standard. The translators are honest about what they
don't know in both cases, and offer suggested alternatives, are
comfortable with comparing earlier sources and correcting their's.

~«

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[Auntie Sindy Todo]

From: Quimbisero<mailto:quimbisa@inquiceweb.com>

> > One thing I have done and have found very interesting
> though has been to compare selected passages in
> different versions of the Bible.
>
> I have done so in several langauges but what I most
> enjoyed was the Moffit version of the Bible in English.
> The Moffit Bible was published in the early 20th Century.

This sounds like an interesting version to have around. Are they easy to find for purchase?

I just have my Catholic book and this one sounds like a fun read or for interesting reference.

Thanks Eoghan, I value your opinion!

- Sindy

[Quimbisero]

--- In hrcourse@yahoogroups.com, "SINDY TODO" <todojs@m...> wrote:

> > > The Moffit Bible was published in the early 20th Century.
>
> This sounds like an interesting version to have around. Are they
easy to find for purchase?
> >
> - Sindy
>

I believe it is long out of print, but there should be copies out
there floating around. I haven't located any, but try used booksellers
on and offline. I can't imagine that it would be a big price item, either.

Eoghan

[Kwame Ajamu]

In hrcourse@yahoogroups.com, "motherkali" <redjasper@c...> wrote:

> > If I could find a church where they
> play Coltrane live*, sing and pray
> like the BlackHawk churches and
> write sermons like Bishop Spong, I'd
> stay there for life.
>
> Michaele / Mother Pyrite

--The bible, funny, I have studied it quite closely for a number of
years now, and I just dont get the same interpretation as everyone
else, or at least not the basic constantines creed. And half the
supposed revelations about Jesus supposedly in the old testament
just dont show up when one reads the Tanakt. Like the virgin shal
give birth referance, but I do think that both Jesus and Moses and
many of the prophets were Magicians (Hoodoo men) of the real kind.

[Mike Rock]

On 11/22/05, Kwame Ajamu <bassreeves2003@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> In hrcourse@yahoogroups.com, "motherkali" <redjasper@c...> wrote:
>
> > If I could find a church where they
> > play Coltrane live*, sing and pray
> > like the BlackHawk churches and
> > write sermons like Bishop Spong, I'd
> > stay there for life.
> >
> > Michaele / Mother Pyrite
>
> --The bible, funny, I have studied it quite closely for a number of
> years now, and I just dont get the same interpretation as everyone
> else, or at least not the basic constantines creed. And half the
> supposed revelations about Jesus supposedly in the old testament
> just dont show up when one reads the Tanakt. Like the virgin shal
> give birth referance, but I do think that both Jesus and Moses and
> many of the prophets were Magicians (Hoodoo men) of the real kind.
>

Yeah what happened was that Greek speaking Jews who couldn't read
Hebrew/Phoenician were working from translations into Greek and well
some things kind of get mixed up when you do that. Like "I've been
mauled by lions" becomes "they have nailed my hands and feet" in the
Psalms.

The Aramaic versions of the Gospels say in Aramaic "easier to put a
rope through a needle's eye" but the word for rope looks a lot like
the word camel and going into Greek, well camel it was... then the
modern preachers made up this folk tale about the gates of the city
being too small and that being what was REALLY meant by the "eye of a
needle".. I mean sheesh those dudes wouldn't know Occam's Razor from a
toadstool. It is a hilarious folk tale though.

"Blessed are the Cheesemakers!"

mike

--

http://www.mike-rock.com

[CKioni]

--- In hrcourse@yahoogroups.com, "motherkali" <redjasper@c...> wrote:


I recommend either the Dakes Bible or the Hebrew Greek Key Study Bible
compiled and edited by Spiros Zodhiates, TH.D. I favor the later
because the Strongs Concordance is included. However the Dakes KJV is
great for researching questions about the pre-Adamic Flood, and how
did Cain have a wife if Adam and Eve only had two boys. Dakes does a
fantastic job with these and similar stump the band type questions.

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