Graveyard, Ancestors, Mediumship, Dying, Death, The Dead

Sorcerers Apprentice · Unread post by **Sorcerers Apprentice** » Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:31 am

Thank You Cat for your help.

Your response has helped to put my mind at ease and helped me to realize, I need to trust myself more with the feelings I get.

I have been talking to my living relatives to see if they have any belongings that they would consider passing on to me.

I appreciate your suggestions for containers, as well.

Thanks,
Sorcerers Apprentice

Sorcerers Apprentice · Unread post by **Sorcerers Apprentice** » Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:54 pm

I wish to correct myself on my last post. I will be talking with my family to see if anyone has items that belonged to my family that has moved on and see if they would be willing to pass them on to me.

Thanks again
Sorcerers Apprentice

Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:31 pm

Arcadia73+ wrote:My dad passed away at the beginning of November and I have a portion of his ashes. I'm wondering if his ashes might be incorporated into any of the spells utilizing graveyard dirt (or really any spell, I suppose) in an effort to enlist his help? Or would this be disrespectful?

Not at all. In fact, using graveyard dirt is a relatively modern substitute for the use of the actual bones of ancestors (hundreds of years old vs. thousands of years old). Laws changed, cultures changed, attitudes toward the dead, toward desecration and toward contagion changed, but these are not the only reasons we rarely use human bones in our spellwork now.

There's also the problem of scarcity. If everyone who wanted to work with a saint or a hero had to rely on a piece of bone, there would be nothing left of them. The Church solved this problem by organizing various classes of relics. First-class relics are actual body parts; second-class relics, objects the saint frequently used or owned in life; a third-class relic is one that has touched either of the other kinds, and can be made new at any time -- but I haven't heard of anything similar to a third-class relic in conjure work.

As to whether using your father's ashes in a particular spell is disrespectful -- ask him! The work you have in mind may be the delight of his heart or make him shudder. Ask him!

I think his this-world interest in the occult and his close relationship with you are points in your favor. I dare say he would enjoy at least some of the work you plan, and might welcome a chance to do important things with his beloved daughter.

Good luck,

Miss Michaele

Unread post by **Miss Reece** » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:18 pm

Thank you Miss Michaele!

Strangely enough, I was working a spell the other day and decided to go for it, to talk to him and ask for his help. As I was sitting there with his ashes in hand I was overcome with such a sense of calm, of peace, of "Yeah, kid, go for it! I'm with you, I got you!" that I knew he was okay with it. I'm not gonna lie, I started bawling like a baby and saying over and over, "Thank you Daddy..." I haven't called him Daddy for almost 40 years, but in that moment it was right, he was my Daddy again, and he has my back on this.

This is the third time now that I have had some kind of experience of him since he passed. It was almost as if he was right there in front of me, like he was RIGHT on front of my face. There was even a weird moment where I feel like I breathed him in, if that makes any sense...

MilzC79 · Unread post by **MilzC79** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:24 am

Hello everyone,

I want to set up an altar to my ancestors. My grandparents who raised me adopted my father so we are not blood related. Are they still considered ancestors? Or does it have to be bloodline? We were very close and it doesn't seem right to not have them there. I don't know anyone on my father's side of the family. How would I go about paying respect to his side of the family?

Thanks for the help and guidance!!

MIllie

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:28 pm

Hello, MilzC79,

YES! Of course they are considered your ancestors! Think about the SPIRITUAL bond!

Get answers here:

altars-questions-and-answers-t124.html?hilit=ancestor altar

If you have any questions after reading this thread, please don't hesitate to ask.

Take care

MilzC79 · Unread post by **MilzC79** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:20 pm

Thank you for the response Miss Aida. My grandmother always comes to me in dreams when I am going through tough times. I know they would want to be there. I will do something for my ancestors I never met as well.

Warm regards,

Millie

Chaz777 · Unread post by **Chaz777** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:02 pm

Is it better to commune with ancestors/spirits in the nighttime because they are more active?

Unread post by **Sister Jean** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:36 pm

Hello, Chaz777, welcome to the Lucky Mojo forum! FYI, I moved your post to this thread: Dying, Death, The Dead, Graveyard, Ancestors, Mediumship. As a friendly request, we ask that you don't start new topics, and instead find the thread that most pertains to your question, and post there.

If you scroll up through this thread, you will find a whole lot of information. If you still have questions after reading through that, ask away.

goldentouch97 · Unread post by **goldentouch97** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:53 pm

I Need some help here please if someone is very knowledgeable in ancestror altar.I have an altar dedicated specialy for my father who pass away 10 years ago,we was very close so once i setup an altar to him he started to sending blessing to me.This altar is very powerfull for me cause he was a serious and famous obeah man where i live.Now i got an idea for the next day of the dead in november to add another ancestror to this altar who was the mother of my father.I have a big picture of her.This picture is at an altar my father own when he was alive.So my question is : Can i take this picture and add it to my ancestror altar ? because i really wan to add my grandma to this altar,i hav also access to her grave to collect dirt.My father was cremated but we was so close so i don't need his graveyard dirt for have strong connection with him.All informations and helps are welcome.If some rootwoker from the AIRR are specialist in ancestror working let me know please.

Unread post by **Miss Athena** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:45 pm

Hi goldentouch97,

Were your father and his mother close? If so, you can have them both on the same altar. I have several ancestors on my altar who all loved each other (and me) very much. They work as a team and I feel better knowing I have this spiritual court watching over me.

If they were not particularly close to each other, I would make separate altars for them and pray to them individually.

As a reminder, you mentioned obeah and this is a forum for the practice of hoodoo, and specifically the use of Lucky Mojo products. Please keep this in mind when posting here.

I hope this helps. Good luck.

goldentouch97 · Unread post by **goldentouch97** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:23 am

My father and his mother was very close.Thanks for the help.

always2nice23 · Unread post by **always2nice23** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:04 pm

My fiance recently committed suicide after attempting to kill me and I have no idea why. I have been searching for answers. I was told that his spirit is trapped in my apartment where he is waiting to haunt me. So I haven't been back there since. I wanted something to put him at ease to help him be happy in death and maybe something to help him move on. Is there anyone who can help me

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:48 pm

Hello, always2nice23,

I am so very sorry. You poor thing. You must be going through a living hell.

Well, I don't know who told you this and then left you to figure out what to do yourself. That's not right.

It would be nice if you could go back there with friends or relatives and see if anything happens.

Now, there's many things that you can do. But it would be nice to know for sure that what you were told is the truth.

Many times (but not all the time) people that have died suddenly and unexpectedly become ghosts (not Spirits) and are afraid to cross over or refuse to. Did he pass away in your apartment? Were you having unusual activities there after he passed away? These are just a few questions (of many) that I am wondering.

Nevertheless, you ought to get a reading on this. Then, if this is true, have a game plan with your reader on what to do.

Find them here:

http://readersandrootworkers.org

OR

www.hoodoopsychics.com

I pray that you find emotional peace. I pray that you find happiness

take care

frankwhite123 · Unread post by **frankwhite123** » Sat Aug 13, 2016 8:59 pm

Is there a way that I can communicate with a relative through a physic or someone of that nature? Like can I get answers from a rootworker about my dead relatives?

Some questions that I have is were two of their deaths caused by rootwork. I live near the graves of the relatives that I want to communicate with and I also have pictures of them. I have personal belongings of one of them.

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:25 am

Hello, frankwhite123 ,

Please go to this AIRR webpage and see who does this:

http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/wi ... d_Dreaming

Take care

Eric1974 · Unread post by **Eric1974** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:00 pm

how to venerate a multi-ethnic ancestry?

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:15 pm

Hello, Eric1974 ,

It's not necessary.

It doesn't matter what nationality one is, they would still appreciate candles, fresh water, candles, etc.

But, you could put little things on the altar to represent them if you wish.

For instance, I found out that I have Jewish in me, so I now also have a small Star of David on my altar (along with my Catholic, Greek Orthodox, and Santeria items)

Wishing you the best

take care

Unread post by **amber** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:55 pm

Hello, can anyone tell me what and how I can use my fathers cremated ashes, in spell work (hoodoo) but he did commit suicide. Thanks Amber

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:13 pm

Hello, Amber,

It's similar to graveyard dirt

www.luckymojo.com/graveyarddirt.html

Take care

Unread post by **amber** » Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:19 pm

Hello again , someone said I can only use it for bad work. Does that mean he can't protect me or my home ? I did read over info on the link , but he OD. So not sure how to use his, a bit confused. Thanks so much Amber

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:03 pm

Hello, amber ,

You may want to consider getting a reading on this as there's no way to determine (on the forum) how he may feel abut this

Take a look at the mediums on the AIRR webpage:

http://readersandrootworkers.org

Take care

Unread post by **amber** » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:45 pm

Hello, ok thank you blessings Amber

3creams2sugars · Unread post by **3creams2sugars** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:17 pm

I need help.

4 years ago the love of my life commited suicide, just after our twin girls were born.

Ever since that day I've placed the pain in the back of my heart and head. My girls are now 4 years old and they're asking about him more and more, causing unwanted feelings and pain. I know my decision on having our twins pushed him over the edge (amongst other things). So I live with the guilt and anger and sadness.

What can I do to gain peace? I want to forgive him, I want him not to hate me.

I went to a card reader and she told me he hated me and offered to cleanse me for 3k (I didn't go through with it of course).

Any spells, home cleanings...I'm willingly to do anything. I want to feel at peace

Madam Sol · Unread post by **Madam Sol** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:11 am

I am so sorry to hear of your situation. I am trying to be unbiased or judgmental about you being asked to spend $3k for a cleanse. I hope you can find promising help here. If you are willing please reach out to one of the many readers and rootwokers on AIRR; this is the name of the website. We also offer candle ministries and lucky mojo curio products for use at home.
Many Blessings and Rey's of light for you and your girls.

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:43 am

Hello, 3creams2sugars ,

I am so very sorry about the suicide. That MUST be so painful. So very painful.

Madam Sol is a very respectful, gracious and knowledgeable moderator. A classy lady. And she is right. But, I have to add my two-cents here:

It is INFURIATING that some Horrible, God-Awful piece of shit, less than a human monster would tell you CRAP and try to take advantage of the situation. What this person told you about him hating you and all the rest is pure, unadulterated BULLSHIT. This is a Black Gypsy Scam at it' best.

Please read this page:

http://www.luckymojo.com/blackgypsies.html

My suggestion to you is to take the twins to a professional counselor so that all of you can discuss this in a rational way without causing any pain or fear to them. Also, maybe to help you to get through any guilt that you have.

I would also consider reporting this "reader" to the police.

Wishing you the very very best. And praying for your peace of mind and comfort

ChristinaKing22 · Unread post by **ChristinaKing22** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:51 am

Hello everyone,
I'm writing this with such a heavy heart and I'm anxious for receiving help because I don't know what else to do. Someone who was extremely near and dear to my heart both romantically for 4 years and what finished off as a friendship for the last 5 years, he was killed on Sunday. We both had just said in June of this year, that we knew would end up together again...just needed to let his overly involved family and friends cooled off and out of our personal business...He was so so special to me and we shared Avery special bond because we both lost one of our parents at the age of 9 and in the same year...it's like we were both members to some elite club... and honestly I thought we had more time to reconcile later...

I have been lighting candles for him, keeping his altar area clean with white flowers and water and Florida water...how else can I help elevate him and help him heal thru such a sudden and traumatic death? Is there any way I can prepare the candle? Or not in this case?

my second problem is his family. They have always had an opinion (usually fueled by plain jealousy and gossip or nothing else to do with their misery I'm assuming.) either way, I ended communication with them on not the best of terms.. i didn't bother to clear up any rumors or opinions they made up about why I just left... and today, I need them to be more welcoming with me so I can mourn as well.

I'd like to help my ex boyfriend make it peacefully wherever it is he is headed, but I'm at a loss for anything I ever knew about my hoodoo roots or practices... I would also like to attend his service without any bitterness or petty confrontation. His last girlfriend of 2months, has made it clear that she is ridiculously insecure and jealous of me or my name even being mentioned. I feel she will start a scene if I go to pay my respects... How can I shut her up along with a few of his relatives so that I can attend the service in peace? I have no problem going in before the crowd arrives, and leaving quietly... I just don't want these people to give me any hell. I don't know if it's sweetening or freezing work that would be most effective here... time is of the essence because the services are at the end of this week.

Thanks in advance. Any suggestions is appreciated beyond measure.

Thank you

Unread post by **Sister Jean** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:01 pm

Hello ChristinaKing22,

Oh honey, I'm so so sorry this happened. I'm so sorry for your loss and can't imagine the pain you must feel.

I think giving him his own altar space is a beautiful thing to do. If you scroll up through this thread, you'll find some posts that have some other ideas of candles and oils you can also use for him.

As for the family, I'd say to put you and them into a sugar jar asap, to sweeten them toward you:

http://www.luckymojo.com/honeyjar.html

I'd also suggest that if all possible, perhaps you could send his mom an email or letter (just drop it in the mailbox) explaining how much you want to be there and be able to pay your respects? That way she's not surprised the day of the service and can hopefully start moving toward at least accepting you.

As for the girlfriend, you could try a beef tongue spell to shut her up, or if you don't want to go that far, you could try putting her in a sugar jar with you.

http://www.luckymojo.com/freezer.html

You might still have to deal with some awkwardness that day, but hopefully everyone will keep in mind that they're there to remember this man, not be petty toward one another.

Take care of yourself.

ChristinaKing22 · Unread post by **ChristinaKing22** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:01 pm

Thank you sister jean.
I loved your suggestions and I appreciate your feedback about his altar. I've never lost someone I have had a relationship with... I was young and buried my mother, and I've been an adult burying my elders. Never, someone like me tho... it's awful.

I can't stand how this girl is manipulating and taking advantage to play the victim role and announcing her deep love for him after their long term 2 month fling. Now, none of us will have him so her small minded crap is more than I can handle.

I loved the idea of shutting her up. No sense in sweetening her to me, and no sense in avoiding stronger approaches

her and I actually were friends because i have a child by the same person as her, and be sure the relationship was very abusive, I chose to raise my son away and never said a word. When she heard thAt my son and hers may be from the same person, she found me, crying and I didn't shit her out... I learned about her new relationship with this man, I was speechless, & it was all on Sunday. Sweetening her keeps sounding worse and worse "/besides ultimately, I just want her to respect me and stop disregarding my place in this whole situation.

I feel my need is from a good place and with valid cause, (although I can't judge that) and I am going to look up the beef tongue spell. I know nothing about it. Thank you so much

Also, any herbs for his mothers honey jar? I've ordered herbs here before but I'm not sure if they are strictly for romantic love...
sister jean, thank you

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:06 pm

Hello, ChristinaKing22 ,

Please accept my sincere condolences.

I hope you have called and asked permission to attend

For herbs:

www.luckymojo.com/hoodooataglance.html

Also, there are elevation ceremonies but too much ad complicated to explain on the forum

So, please have the Silent Crystal League pray for the elevation of his soul. It is free

www.crystalsilenceleague.org

Take care

Unread post by **Rosamund** » Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:38 pm

I have a high school friend who I recently visited with after not seeing for 25 years... and during the course of our conversation I told her about my new spirituality hoodoo ... gave her a few tips as best I could about some matters in her life. A very interested friend indeed. This was last week.

Today she writes that she is doing palliative care for a cancer patient soon to cross over and is asking the following....

.." ..what type of prayer I could be saying to sever his old bridges and negative emotions and help him leave our world in the best possible feeling of comfort and love and self-forgiveness and cut ties with anything here that's going to hold him back..."

She has just simple household herbs etc nothing fancy but I believe she has frankincense oil. I was thinking a prayer to a guardian angel or Mother Mary in this instance? With a candle lit with frankincense oil and a kitchen herb such as basil? She herself does have a Christian Lutheran background not sure of palliative care patient...

This must be a trying situation... any suggestions could help.

Ps I do have many supplies .. healing oil arriving soon and peace water ... I could light a candle with these long distance as well with herbs added...

Hoping to help my friend ... thanks in advance

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:34 am

First, hoodoo is not a form of spirituality per se -- it is primarily practiced by spiritual people.

Second, i would not impose any religion on a person without knowing their own preferences. It always helps to ask.

Having said that, i would use the Frankincense Oil for sure, and, if the patient is a Catholic, ask her if she knows that Saint Joseph is the one who grants a peaceful death. Basil is always nice for peacefulness, as is Hops (the herb that is used for flavouring beer).

Unread post by **Rosamund** » Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:14 am

Thank you Miss Cat... I plan on taking your course as soon as possible myself ... I feel hungry for knowledge trying to learn something new every day... will pass this along

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:00 pm

Hello, Sapmoss ,

You and the Hoodoo Course are meant for each other!

So happy for you!

Seeking Freedom · Unread post by **Seeking Freedom** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:24 pm

Hey all,

This is a long winded story but I feel I have to provide enough info to make my question clear.

By happenstance I found a cemetery I LOVE a long time ago. Seriously, for being a cemetery it gives me such a good feeling. The spirits of the place always seem to accept me and I always leave in a good mood.

The cemetery has a strong history in my community. At one point generations ago, it was where the non-whites, the criminals, the atheists etc were buried... the unwanted or outcasts of society at that time. I didn't know this when I found it, I liked the cemetery so much I researched its history.

There are also brick structures on the premises that have a unique history too. The bricks are very old and came from a part of town that was destroyed in a rather important historical moment. They picked up the bricks that survived the violence and built little structures with them on this site.

So, I'm there today just to visit and say prayers and thanks for help in the past, leave some offerings etc. The place was littered with garbage because no one really maintains it well so I'm doing trash duty. I check one of the brick structures to make sure no trash is laying around it either. Well, what I find is a triangle shaped piece of brick laying at my feet and almost calling out to me. It broke off from one of the corner bricks which is why it's triangle shaped. The ground was soggy and muddy from floods we've had the past few days but this brick was clean and dry as a whistle, so it had to have literally just broke off. It really spoke to me and seemed like a sign so I asked permission to take it. I walked around with it in my hand while I continued my trash duty, just to see if I got a sign telling me to put it back or something. Normally I see crows and blackbirds there but this time I had white doves and pigeons flying low and getting my attention... long story short the spirit of the place just seemed to be telling me it was a gift or they wanted me to have it.

I'm not worried about having it in my home for that reason. But, I'm not quite sure what I'm supposed to do with it. I don't want to do the wrong thing. I thought about leaving it on my altar, but... it's from a cemetery and has quite a history attached to it, is it too strong to leave on my altar? I always ask St Cyprian to be with me in the cemetery (I love St Cyprian) so maybe I should leave it out for him? Do I put it somewhere dark and quiet so it can "rest" as if in a cemetery? Do I need to anoint it with Lucky Mojo oil and if so which one? Or do I leave it as is? Can it be worked for particular spells or do I just let it be a token of appreciation from the cemetery?

I've certainly received other items in such a fashion but I knew what to do with those! Normally my spirit/intuition helps me decide but I'm not sure this time. Any input appreciated!

ETA: I called the Lucky Mojo Radio Hour back in Feb and Conjureman Ali, Co Meadows and especially Miss Cat gave me excellent ideas on handling very troublesome family members but without hurting them. The work was to be done in a graveyard and this was the graveyard I used. My family is fine and healthy and leaving me alone

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:05 pm

Hello, Seeking Freedom,

Now, this is just my opinion and many may disagree with me. But, this is what I would do:

I would bring it home BUT keep it outside of your home. Do not bring it in the house.

Put it on an altar outside and see what happens. See if your luck changes from good to bad. In other words, feel it out. Do this for a couple of months

If your luck goes down the drain, then you know it was not a gift and take it back.

If your luck doesn't change or gets better, then brig it inside but just close to your door and seal the area with Fiery Wall of Protection (in the event that there's something attached to it).

www.luckymojo.com/fierywall.html

I just don't trust malevolent spirits because they will trick the hell out of us...

Take care

Seeking Freedom · Unread post by **Seeking Freedom** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:00 pm

Miss Aida,

I hadn't even considered that perhaps I was being tricked. It seemed like such a good sign at the time, it was only after I got home that I wasn't clear on it. I read your post this morning and throughout the day my doubts about it have been increasing. I did a yes/no single card reading for myself and got the 3 of Swords... so back to the graveyard it goes! It's not worth any risk.

I had already brought it in my home before reading your post. It is outside now and I put Fiery Wall Of Protection over the area I had it in and I put the oil in the shape of a cross. Is there a certain protocol to follow when *returning* something from a graveyard? Or do I just return it, leave an offering and get out? I do like the graveyard and have never had a bad experience from being there, so I don't want to risk offending or angering the spirits there.

Big thank you for pointing out that it may have been a trick, I never would have guessed if you hadn't said something!

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:48 pm

Hello, Seeking Freedom,

Just put it back. The offering is up to you

I would also clean your house with Chinese Wash and follow it up with Tibetan Ghost purging incense.

www.luckymojo.com/chinesewash.html

www.luckymojo.com/tibetanghostpurgingincense.html

Take care

Asturias · Unread post by **Asturias** » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:31 pm

hello! i have a few questions on ancestor veneration, if i may.

my maternal grandmother just passed away recently. i was wondering. is it customary, in hoodoo, to wait a while to add a deceased family member to an ancestor altar or one may add them right away?

other than that. i have a wax poppet containing her hair. i prepared it when she was still hospitalized and bathed it often, to give her some comfort during her terminal state. should i dispose of it or could i use it as a manner of ancestor doll?

furthermore. how do you comfort someone who just died, from a hoodoo spiritual practice perspective? willow water came to mind. i was thinking maybe libations poured near to the grave, but not candles just yet. or maybe willow water offered in a glass in my ancestor altar, if it is a valid option to invite her to my altar right way.

well, c'est la vie.

please let me know -

Unread post by **Sister Jean** » Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:28 am

Hello asturias,

Yes, I think you could keep the doll you made of her on your altar. For the rest of your questions, I recommend scrolling up and reading this entire thread; you'll find a lot of helpful information.

Take care.

Unread post by **LuckyJupiter88** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:39 am

Hello all!
I feel strongly pulled to do ancestor work. It has been a long road as I was adopted but I finally made contact with biological family members in the last couple years and through research have finally begun to discover who my ancestors were and one in particular that I would like to work with. I have also begun working with St. Cyprian in regards to ancestor work and strengthening my personal practices overall. I love working with Tarot but am better reading for others than myself. I apologize if someone has posted something similar and I missed it but I would really love any advise for reaching out to ancestors especially for someone who doesn't have a strong familial connection and how to form a connection. Just any advisement from methods, success stories, I will take what I can get! I loved a story Miss Cat told on the radio hour recently about crying tears into graveyard dirt to bring a connection! I wondered about conditions of the tears...I hope its not a foolish question but I rarely ever cry...do I need to wait for an authentic tearful situation to arise?

Thanks to you all for the work you do on the forum!

Unread post by **Miss Athena** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:44 am

Hi LuckyJupiter88,

Wow, I am so happy to hear you were able to connect with your biological family after such an extensive search! Good for you, and I hope the experience will continue to be a positive one for you and your family.

As for working with your ancestors, please read through this thread as there is a lot of advice on how to connect with ancestors for your work. You could also get a reading to see if there is any particular ancestor who is coming through as most willing to work with you. It could help you focus on someone in particular. You can find good readers here:
www.hoodoopsychics.com
www.readersandrootworkers.org/

Meanwhile, if you are not given to crying, you don't need to perform that particular ritual. However, I often find that when I am in a graveyard and connecting with a particular spirit (family or otherwise), I am easily moved emotionally. It could happen for you as well. Just a thought. It's worth trying then you can decide if it's worth pursuing again.

I hope this helps. Good luck.

Unread post by **LuckyJupiter88** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:10 am

Thank you Miss Athena!

I think visiting the family graveyard may help me connect! I have never been as I just discovered it exist and it is 6 hours away but I think a trip would be well worth it to help me on this path.

I am hoping to get a reading soon and have read through the whole thread just always hungry for more! I am just a bit tight on the budget atm but I will get there! My jack ball has actually been leading me on this ancestor path and I think visiting the graveyard is essential now that you've said that! Meanwhile I am over here trying fruitlessly for success in front of my alter. Completely ignoring the obvious. I think sometimes we just need a push here and there!

Best

BrujeriaMasFina · Unread post by **BrujeriaMasFina** » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:19 pm

A lot going on here...

I am out of town for work and received a very strange call from my husband (who is aware of my Hoodoo practicing, but he himself doesn’t practice). This is a longer than normal trip for me, so yesterday I casually asked him if he would burn palo santo sticks to cleanse the house while I am gone, just to keep the energy at home on the up & up while I’m gone. I asked him NOT to use sage because my teen son has a pretty strong aversion to the scent.

Apparently last night, he burned palo around the house exactly as he had seen me do it (he also said he went around the house asking to “uncross” it) then went upstairs to take a bath. He said that in the bathroom, he lit one of my “normal” candles (read: unfixed decoration candles from our bedroom) lit a bundle of sage in a bowl and took a bath by candle light. He said he relaxed, and began praying for good things to happen in his life and for legal problems with his ex-wife to be balanced & fair. He said he sat in the tub, eyes closed, focused and relaxing for about 30 min.

When he opened his eyes, he said that he noticed that the Sage was burning very low and was almost burnt out with no more smoke coming out of it, and the candle was very still. Then suddenly the sage lit up like a hot cherry and the candle started a VERY high flicker. Then he looked up into the corner of the room and noticed a large shadowy figure, with a smaller figure next to it. He said he thought he was seeing things and looked around the room to make sense of the shadows but they were their own entities. He said they felt familiar, made him feel loved and safe and happy. He believes that they were ancestors. He said he went to bed and had such a peaceful sleep with a beautiful dream.

He says that this isn’t the first time he has seen these particular figures in our home and never told me.
And when he was telling me all this over the phone tonight, they came back into the bedroom and were there around him while we were talking. I asked ALOT of questions because I needed to make sure they were not evil. He said he felt love & warmth “wrap around” his heart. He told me to hold on while he listened to them, they said we (he and I) need to “go all the way up to the top” and they “made him see” a mountain like area that looked like Half Dome in Yosemite (he has a childhood and family connection to this place).

A few nights before I left, we both put on LM Psychic Vision oil on our temples before bed as we both dream a lot, it’s how I receive my messages from ancestors. I had a feeling that he is really receptive to Spirit as well, but it never showed through until now and it’s coming through FULL FORCE.

I think he’s a little scared of it, but he insists that these figures are nothing but love and happiness. We are going to get him a reading with my AIRR reader next week because we would like to know exactly what all this is.

Can we attribute this to the effect of the LM Psychic Vision oil opening him up to a gift?
And also: since I normally light a white candle after smudging the house to fill the void with positive energy (and he did not) I worry that maybe some random energies were attracted and maybe stayed? I am not there to assess the situation, and likely overthinking it, because if he says they were loving I believe him. Just don’t know if spirits can fake being nice or portray themselves as ancestors when they are not.

Unread post by **Sister Jean** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:30 pm

Hello BrujeriaMasFina,

Wow! I think this could be attributed to the Psychic Vision oil, but I'm glad you're getting a reading on it so you can learn more.

Take care.

ThedaBara · Unread post by **ThedaBara** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:21 am

I would appreciate some input on a part of my practice, particularly from Black rootworkers.

At the point in my prayers where I thank my ancestors, I have also been thanking the creators of hoodoo, as in the slaves and the generations of free but struggling Black Americans who knitted together so many kinds of magic and ritual to build the incredible tradition we work in today.

I'm well-versed in U.S. Black history and the decades of shameful crimes committed against these folks, right up to the present day. I have great empathy for their suffering, and a deep respect for their ingenuity in reclaiming stolen or destroyed culture. And while this certainly doesn't apply to the regulars on this board, I have noticed a disappointing trend in which the origins of rootwork aren't really acknowledged that I find quite disrespectful. I don't ask them for things; I just don't like to leave them out.

But is it okay for me to do this, or is it presumptuous for some white girl to be bothering them for any reason?

(Edit to add: I do back up my principles with work in the mundane world as well. I donate to charities, make a point to buy designs by Black artists, protest racially-motivated shootings, etc.)

Unread post by **Sister Jean** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:37 am

Hello ThedaBara,

I'm not black, but I think it's great that you want to remember and honor the origins and originators of hoodoo. Perhaps a black moderator or forum member could weigh in here?

LookWhatYouveDone333 · Unread post by **LookWhatYouveDone333** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:57 am

My grandfather was in the mob. He was involved in a number of criminal activities. He loved money. He had tons of material items and stolen goods that he would let his kids pick from including my mother. He died young and I never got to meet him. Over the years, I have heard a lot of stories, some good and some bad, others unknown. I had a FOIA FBI report requested and they had two cases but said they were destroyed. My mother she says the fictional character Tony Soprano reminds her of him whenever she watches the show.

His death was suspicious. That's a whole nother story I am not getting into.

I also spoke to a medium once and the lady started saying how my grandfather was a bad guy and everything. I never even told her about my grandfather. She immediately said Yeah, your grandfather, the mob guy.

Weeks after this, I had one of the most vivid dreams that would stick with me probably forever. It starts out by me shooting out of my body up past earth (I look down and see earth) way up to this black hole shaped in a red form. Then I am in this room and the vibe is kinda gloomy and there is this man and old women sitting in front of a television. She is speaking a foreign language. I get closer and realize it is my grandfather. He barely speaks or acknowledges me. All of the sudden, about fifteen people I have never seen people pop up and one kid who says he is my third cousin or something (explains that he was shot and killed in Southern Europe quite a few years ago) and starts calling me out saying how I tried to be a real gangster at one point but could never fill those shoes. I try to punch him and he moves out of the way so fast and I fall. The other women pick me up. He explains to me that my grandfather is no good and was sentenced to 30,000 years in purgatory and I better stop or I'll end up here too. I know people are going to say it was a dream but this is the only dream besides two others that actually stick with me. It was too vivid. I put in the last part to just explain the entire situation.

I am thinking about going to his grave and maybe doing a ritual. I was thinking about bringing a "can of moxie" which he liked to drink if I can find it, some "money" and maybe an "antique" as he was an antique dealer. I have a picture of him which I will present at the grave site. I might be able to get an item or object he once possessed as well. I would then burn some candles (green) as he loved money and call upon his spirit and ask to bring me wealth. At one time, he was very wealthy.

Please tell me what you think about this?

What am I getting myself into?

PLEASE NOTE: I have studied hoodoo on and off for the past few years. I am not an expert so please be kind. I occasionally have done protection/banishing spells and a few money spells. One of the money spells I just did actually backfired and I have no only two sales this week. I owe a lot in debt and am trying to rekindle the spell. My life story is a long one and I'm not going to complain. If anyone can help me or give advice, feel free to.

Thank you.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:28 pm

Well, if you aspire to be a criminal and a thief, and to die under suspicious circumstances, your grandfather sounds like a powerful ancestor to appeal to for help with all of that.

In the dream, when your "third cousin" shows up, tells you he was shot and killed, and wants you to know that your grandfather "is no good and was sentenced to 30,000 years in purgatory and I better stop or I'll end up here too," it is not exactly a fun time you are being offered. The dream is a warning, and you don't need me to tell you that.

Just know what you are getting into.

Good luck.

LookWhatYouveDone333 · Unread post by **LookWhatYouveDone333** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:30 am

Catherine,

You're right. I never thought about it in that way. He was an antique dealer with lots of money and had legit businesses but I am starting to re-think this after you said that.

My mother wants to visit his grave. I'm even re-considering that now. Maybe I should just leave all this in the past.

happyasaclam · Unread post by **happyasaclam** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:32 pm

Ancestral altar offerings. How long do you leave them up there? What do you do with them when you're done? Can you eat then after 24 hours?

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:41 am

happyasaclam --

The answer to that would depend on your religion.

Not all practitioners of folk magic, including hoodoo, make food offerings to or for ancestors. In fact, in my experience, doing so is a minor practice among most American conjure workers. Those who do make food offerings to ancestors usually work according to the traditions of their religions or their families.

In other words, there is no one answer to your question.

If you belong to a religion in which ancestor veneration is institutionalized and food offerings (as opposed to smoke offerings or liquid offerings) are made, then your fellow-adherents or clergy will be able to educate you in their proper way.

If you are basically "free-lancing" ancestor veneration because you feel drawn to to the practice, then do understand that what you do will be individualistic. Some may eat the food and some may scatter it in nature, for instnce.

Perhaps you can locate a Forum that deals with your specific religion and ask there.

Good luck.

landsgenesis2 · Unread post by **landsgenesis2** » Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:42 am

This appears to be the best place I could find to post on this topic. I will try to stay on topic here, given the title of this particular forum thread "Dying, Death, The Dead, Graveyard, Ancestors, Mediumship.

I am new to hoodoo, with a lot to learn, and only knowing a few elementary things. Is it common in hoodoo to request through ritual or prayer (preferably through a solely prayerful way) -- specific wording, maybe, home goods, products through LM that perhaps would work without an altar to request a conversation through dreams with an ancestor who has passed on. I would be thankful for whoever would be willing to meet with me in dreams (its happened before without my asking), but there is one person in particular, my great-grandmother, who was a rootworker that I'd like to talk to. I sometimes feel like she's around me, even though she died when I was extremely young. I'm the only one of her 22 great-grandkids that I know of who has taken up interest this craft again through this family.

Do I have to have the gift of mediumship to do this? Again, new here, and I'm hoping, as this is the best thread I could find for this question, that I've posted it to the right place.

Thanks!

Unread post by **Sister Jean** » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:08 am

Hello landsgenesis2,

I think that's great that you want to connect with your grandmother. I'd suggest you start by setting up a small ancestor altar, which you can learn more about by scrolling up through this thread and reading the other posts.

Good luck!

landsgenesis2 · Unread post by **landsgenesis2** » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:15 am

Thank you! God Bless you!

Pyromancer · Unread post by **Pyromancer** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:55 am

Hi. I have a question and need some insight.

I visited somebody I know at their grave, and left them a gift. He used to be a well known actor on MTV shows. We met many many times when he was alive. I believe he’s around me.

I smelled perfume after I left the site one time, and after that several more times I smelled it.

I get signs all the time from him. I see his name, songs he likes comes on the radio, I even saw his name on the license plate of a 1950s car the day I was looking for his grave.

I got a reading, and the reader said that he’s around, visits me, and hangs out with me. I have done meditation and talked to him. Things he told me came true.

I want to know what I can do to communicate and talk to him more. He promised to help me with my acting skills for acting as that’s was his last profession. I want more conversations.

A doll baby with his pic? Candles? Any suggestions?

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:53 am

Dazed_Confused --

In working with the dead it is highly uncommon to use a doll. It can be done, but dolls are fairly intimate and are generally used for bodily situations such as sexual love or to cause illness. He no longer has a body, so a doll seems pointless to me. I would work with a photo, since he left his shadow traces on his work as an actor.

You ask about candles -- yes, you can use a plain candle of an appropriate colour. White is the colour used in the spiritual churches to represent the beloved dead. (Black would be used to represent the hated, feared, or damned dead.)

Light the candle and speak with him.

Now, the way i was raised, we used the small altar lights, 4" candles, when sitting a session with the dead. We did not use the big 14-day / novena (9-day) / 7-day / vigil candle / 5 day / glass-encased candles.

If it was the year anniversary of the person's death, we set a yarzheit (year-time / memorial anniversary) candle. This is a jelly-glass-size white candle used by Jews to mark a memorial day. They used to sell them in the hoodoo shops, and they still sell them in the ethnic aisles of big grocery store chains.

In truth, any white candle will do.

Set up a framed portrait of the man, add flowers if you wish, and burn the white candle while calling on him to attend and converse. It is also the custom in some communities to add a clear glass goblet of Holy Water on the altar. If you wish to dress the candle, Holy Oil is the usual choice.

The reason for using Holy Oil and Holy Water is that you do not wish a false spirit to come to your call, and false spirits will not come where Holy Oil or Holy Water are on the altar.

If you knew the person well in life and they had a favourite perfume or other scent, then use that scent in addition (float some on the Holy Water) and they will be drawn to it.

landsgenesis2 · Unread post by **landsgenesis2** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:02 am

This helps with my question too miss cat! You were right, this is where ALL the action happens. I greatly look forward to becoming a better student, and no less a contributor, to this AWESOME community -- I've already learned so much! I have nothing but gratitude towards the service you all have given your life to and provided to us by you, leaders, and the humility in which it's done.

Thank you. Thank you for letting God be God in your life.

Pyromancer · Unread post by **Pyromancer** » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:16 am

Thank you so much. I know other malicious spirits try to come through for I’ll intent. I will get done Hoky Water and his pic

Pyromancer · Unread post by **Pyromancer** » Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:49 pm

Does LM sell holy oil? And should I use water with a rose of Jericho soaked in it as holy water?