Deities, Angels, Spirits, Saints: Questions and Answers

sparkel81 · Unread post by **sparkel81** » Tue May 04, 2010 10:37 am

ok thank u

adam283 · Unread post by **adam283** » Wed May 05, 2010 12:16 pm

my deep fryer blew hot oil all over my hand n burnt it VERY bad second degree n blistered it up bad n i cant use it to write any petitions let alone put on a sock, the hosp gave me vicoden but it doesnt help much for the pain, i have LM all saints oil is there any way i can ask a saint for help with healing n help with pain??

blanca080 · Unread post by **blanca080** » Wed May 05, 2010 1:26 pm

The saint that deals with illness is saint lazarus...

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Wed May 05, 2010 1:47 pm

Blessed Dr. Jose Gregorio Hernandez is also another good one to ask for medical aid.

adam283 · Unread post by **adam283** » Wed May 05, 2010 1:59 pm

would it be fine to just say his prayer n burn a candle without a petition? i can barely type let alone write

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Wed May 05, 2010 2:19 pm

The prayer is what is important - say the prayer and then speak to him in your own words. Do this while you hold the candle and dress it - then light the candle.

reality9401 · Unread post by **reality9401** » Wed May 05, 2010 2:21 pm

I want to know what do I do if I don't have a front yard or back yard to bury dressing from a spell. What would be another option?

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Wed May 05, 2010 2:23 pm

Crossroads

adam283 · Unread post by **adam283** » Wed May 05, 2010 2:27 pm

Thank you Devi!

Unread post by **Carin Huber** » Wed May 05, 2010 2:36 pm

A search online suggests John the Apostle. One story says he raised from death 200 pagans who had been killed in a fire. Another tale tells how he was ordered beaten, poisoned, and thrown into a vat of boiling oil, from which he stepped unharmed. Sounds like just the guy for you to talk to!

Many depictions of Saint John show him wearing a red cloak. This, combined with the fact of red being a fiery color, may suggest red as a good color of candle to dress with your Lucky Mojo All Saints Oil. Alternatively, you may prefer the cool healing of a blue candle.

Also, Lucky Mojo offers St. Florian Oil, dedicated to the patron saint of firefighters, who guards against death and loss through fire. He, too, may intercede on your behalf.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Wed May 05, 2010 4:37 pm

I don't work with saints too often, except for a few that I've had a relationship with from another tradition I work with, but I do enjoy invoking the archangels. Since you seem to have a good relationship with Saint Michael, you can try Saint Raphael who is known as Archangel of healing. He may be able to help you.

Beach · Unread post by **Beach** » Sun May 09, 2010 7:06 am

Hi, Do saints get jealous or territorial? I guess they wouldn't or they wouldn't be saints.

But, I am working with 4 at the same time and am wondering if I am creating any issues.
1. St. Martha to help with an ex.
2. St. Expedite to speed it up
a couple days later, I went to:
3. St. Anthony because he's my family's saint and I've been praying to him for a few years now and also
4. St. Jude because I've been praying to him since childhood.

I just feel significantly less connected now to St. Martha after going to St Anthony and St Jude but I went to them because I already had relationships with them.

Could she be offended or do they all work happily together? any issues here? or is it just in my mind?

Thanks...

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Sun May 09, 2010 8:06 am

Some folk saints can be jealous. The way in which some saints work may not blend well with the way another saint works. Divination can help you determine if a saint is right for a certain job, and if other saints can work together on a case well or not.

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Sun May 09, 2010 9:34 am

I suggest:

Magical Power of the Saints: Evocation & Candle Rituals by Reverend Ray T. Malbrough
Originally published in 1998; this is the original edition.
The best modern occult book on New Orleans style Catholic-Spiritualist work, in which prayers and petitions for luck, love, and other conditions are addressed to the Saints through candle rituals. Contains a wealth of illustrated information on the subject.
227 pages, trade paperback.

$11.95
BOO-GRI-MPOS

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun May 09, 2010 10:14 am

I have found what Devi mentoned to be true...and I respect the saint's request. Beach, I work with each of the saints you mentioned but keep them in separate rooms.

chy clayton s · Unread post by **chy clayton s** » Sun May 09, 2010 11:08 am

I maintain an All Saints altar, very similar to my ancestor altar, where I honor various saints on their given week days, and specific saints on their feast days. Then, if I want to use a Saint for a work in progress, I move it's statue, diptych, or card to the altar for that work.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun May 09, 2010 12:08 pm

I like that idea chy clayton s...

Beach · Unread post by **Beach** » Sun May 09, 2010 1:07 pm

I do as well but what do you suggest for when you want to call upon more than one saint for the same work?

I had all four saints on the same altar because it was all for the same work. I have them all separated now as jwmcclin suggested but I am still asking each saint to help me towards the same goal. Also, they must all realize I'm still asking each one for the same thing, even if separated right?

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun May 09, 2010 1:48 pm

...that's why I place my Saints in different rooms and probably why chy clayton s places each Saint separately on the altar (if I am understanding the post correctly)...

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sun May 09, 2010 9:29 pm

Saints, like other spiritual beings, have their own personalities and preferences. Some don't like sharing altars, some don't like working with others, and some are fine with it. It isn't necessarily a matter of jealousy, but rather some saints are demanding in the faith they require of those who petition them. They want the petitioner to have enough faith that they don't need to go to a dozen saints. Then there is also the matter of individual experience. People will have different experiences with different saints. For example I know one very talented Catholic rootworker who cannot work with Saint Martha and Saint Peter on the same issue. She has to do a divination to see which saint will be willing to aid in that instance. I know yet another who works with both and they even share an altar. So do your divinations and see what you discover.

Also, Malbrough's book is a great introduction to Saint veneration and their role in folk-magick, but approach it with the understanding that Malbrough has a slighly different approach and definition to some of the things than LM and others do here. For example he uses candles like DUME and Black Arts products in reconciliation work, but among rootworkers like myself, or other members of the forum, DUME is a death spell, and Black Arts is used in work spirits of a more volatile nature. Keep in mind the differences and you'll find it a great book.

Beach · Unread post by **Beach** » Mon May 10, 2010 2:40 am

Thanks everyone for the info and education. I'm going to try to check out that book but in the meantime...

I got up this morning to find my St. Anthony candle burning quite hot & high, so much so that it's leaving soot at the top of the vigil glass. not a lot, but a little. But the others are burning calmly, cleanly & smoothly.

My question - (1) are saint candles subject to the same divination as "purpose" candles, ie like Love Me, Come to Me, meaning that this soot means I'm going to have trouble or (2) if only St. Anthony seems to be running high and leaving sooty marks, may I have offended him? I put him in the living room while I left St. Jude on the altar (splitting them up as jwmcclin suggested). Maybe he feels that St. Jude got a place a preference or something?

thanks....

Beach · Unread post by **Beach** » Mon May 10, 2010 2:47 am

quick addition to my post -

I switched St. Anthony & St. Jude putting St. Anthony now on the altar (in the kitchen) and St. Jude in the living room.

Within five minutes, St. Anthony's candle calmed down and they are both now burning calmly and normally. coincidence? wow... huh?

Unread post by **cognitivedissonance** » Mon May 10, 2010 8:07 am

I've asked a priest this question for the "official Catholic" answer, actually. He said that there is no limit to the number of saints you can petition, although you always need to be careful to remember that God is the one you're asking the saint to intercede to on your behalf, not the saint himself. The saint doesn't actually have a big Santa Claus list of proposals to bring to God every morning, the saint is simply already in heaven, dedicated to serving God, and has no earthly distractions to keep them from praying with all their souls and with the wisdom to know what to pray for that being a heavenly saint gives them.

I don't know about the folk saints, though. I probably wouldn't test it with Santisme Muerte, St. Expedite, St. Maximon or St. Martha. You can be fairly safe to assume that Anthony, Jude, Christopher and Peter won't have any issues with sharing the load.

Of the saints I've worked with, my main three are St. Luke (patron of artists), St. Benedict (banisher of evil spirits and poison) and St. Michael. Of the three, St. Michael is the only one that has a weird set of personality quirks. He's an angel, and so it stands to figure that his mind doesn't quite work the same as ours. He likes a regular schedule, probably why he's so popular among soldiers and police. But he's also the patron of retailers, which is why I have his medal on hand all the time. If I wear his medal off the clock, I've found that I get really tense and my muscles get tired... he keeps me in soldier mode the whole time.

Luke and Benedict, meanwhile, don't seem to mind.

Does anybody know if the Miraculous Medal has any impact on saint work?

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Mon May 10, 2010 8:27 am

St Expedite and St. Martha are not folk saints - they are regular cannonized Catholic saints.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Mon May 10, 2010 8:58 am

St. Martha is mentioned in the Bible as a friend of Jesus.

chy clayton s · Unread post by **chy clayton s** » Mon May 10, 2010 9:55 am

When I was a kid my grandmother always said "Saint Martin Called Expedite" as she was taught that was his full name.

I frequently use multiple Saints in one rootwork, but I pray to each one seperately with focus and intention, and I rewrite their prayer to mention the other Saints I am working with as well.

example off the top of my head:

Opening Prayer adapted from "The Morning Offering"

O Jesus, through the Immaculate Heart of Mary, I offer Thee my Prayers, works, joys and sufferings of this day and hour for all my intentions of Thy Sacred Heart, in union with the Holy Spirit, I thank you for standing before the Throne of the Father on my behalf, and I humbly beg you to call out the prayers of St. Anthony, St. Dymphna, and St. Jude this morning. It is with worship and adoration that I, with no right, do ask this favor Oh Lord, in the Name of the Father AND the Son AND the Holy Ghost. Amen.

Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel

ArchAngel Michael, who defends the innocent, stands by the righteous, and hunts the demons in this world, I come before you desperate and alone. I ask that you will stand beside Our Lord Jesus this morning and argue my case to the very Throne itself. I would ask only that my son, D , be given the strength and courage to fight his very personal demon of addiction today. And, on bended knee, I beg you to protect my son from himself today. In the name of the Father AND the Son AND the Holy Ghost. Amen.

Modified "Unfailing Prayer to St Anthony"

O holy St Anthony, gentlest of Saints, your love for God and Charity for his creatures, made you worthy, when on earth, to possess miraculous powers. Miracles waited on your word, which you were ever ready to speak for those in trouble or anxiety. Encouraged by this thought, I implore of you to stand beside St. Jude and St. Dymphna this morning and and pray for my son, D , that his mind be calm and his cravings be muted, that today he can walk with the Lord. And I ask you to whisper guidance to him as you once whispered to the Sweet Infant Jesus, that he might know which path to take to bring him closer to Jesus and stronger in Faith, that one day his addiction will only be a memory best forgotten. The answer to my prayer may require a miracle, even so, you are the Saint of Miracles, only whisper my petition before the throne and the gratitude of my heart will be forever yours. In the name of the Father AND the Son AND the Holy Ghost. Amen.

Modified "Prayer to Saint Dymphna"

Oh Pure and youthful Martyr, who knows the price of obsession and addiction, I stand before you and beg, with tears unshed for grief, I beg that you will pray beside St Anthony and St Jude this morning for my son, D. I am filled of fear for him and ask that you intercede on his behalf, that his demon may be cast off and his mind may be calm. Please fill him with hope, and grant him the relief and cure he so desires. I ask this through Jesus Christ our Lord who suffered in the garden, Amen.

Modified "Prayer to St Jude"

St Jude, Patron of those things despaired of; pray for me, that I may receive the succour of Heaven in my necessities, and please stand strong with St Anthony and St Dymphna this morning and pray for my son, D , that he may walk away from his past and become as a new man with the strength of Faith. I beg you to intercede this day, and I pray for your guidance in this most desperate matter, In the name of the Father AND the Son AND the Holy Ghost. Amen.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Mon May 10, 2010 1:19 pm

chy clayton s wrote:I frequently use multiple Saints in one rootwork, .

While I'm sure Chy Clayton did not mean to imply this particular impression I thought it best to clear up the word, "use" and the position of saints in Conjure.

Firstly, one does not "use" saints, but rather they are petitioned to come to the aid of the petitioner. The reason one should make a point about this is because there seems to be a prevalant idea that saints are "used" in rootwork, "used" to boost up your work. That is not the case.

Rootwork is part of African-American, Protestant Christianity and as such you don't see that many saints worked with in rootwork. Those that do work with saints come from a Catholic background. The saints belong in this background and shouldn't be removed from it. So for those members who aren't familiar with saint work, try to understand that saints aren't just people you run up to and start demanding what you want, nor are they a cornerstone of conjure, hoodoo, or rootwork, but rather they are part of their own Catholic tradition that some have chosen to adopt.

If you chose to work with saints, wonderful-approach them with respect, give them offerings, build up a relationship with them, one based off of faith and remember their context in the Catholic tradition as cognitivedissonance pointed out.

Unread post by **cognitivedissonance** » Mon May 10, 2010 1:35 pm

In 1962, the official status of "saint" was yanked from Martha, Expedite and Christopher, as well as hundreds of lesser known saints. This doesn't mean the church forbids praying to them for intercession, merely that they are not up to the standards of canonization laid out in Vatican II. The rules for who is and who isn't an "official" saint are ludicrously arcane, the most famous of which are that each saint must have a verifiable minimum of three miracles during their lifetime (post-mortem seems to be an issue but not as vital to the canonization process) and unimpeachable orthodoxy according to the canon law.

Expedite and Christopher are not "official" saints (their historicity is in doubt) and Martha has some problems with the miracle count. Less popular saints got the axe as well.

HOWEVER, there IS flexibility on the parish level, as long as universal orthodoxy is maintained. It's a matter of the Vatican legislating and the bishops executing. Not many bishops are executing the saint cull, especially with the "popular" saints like Expedite and Christopher.

The long story short: The "official" Catholic hierarchy doesn't recognize some saints that are popularly revered, but that doesn't make them any less worthy of veneration. In absolute strict circumstances where everybody is doing their job correctly, you couldn't be baptized with the Christian name "Christopher" anymore (despite "Christ" being in the freakin name!). Good luck finding the priest that much of a stickler to enforce it.*

((I'm not calling out Martha, she's one of those saints the church doesn't know what to do with. Yes, she was in the Bible, but her presentation is not exactly flattering depending on the translation you're reading. She'd probably like that. Mary Magdalene gets better praise than she does.))

*A fun one to bring up is St. Thomas More, the patron saint of lawyers and politicians, and therefore very useful to use in a court case. He was added a few decades ago. He's DEFINITELY not popular among Irish and Irish-Americans due to his lifetime stance of being pro-British conquest. Good luck finding an Irish priest who will bless his medal, even better luck getting St. Brigid or St. Patrick to sign on to assist him.

chy clayton s · Unread post by **chy clayton s** » Mon May 10, 2010 4:00 pm

Good catch, ConjureMan, that was bad english on my part.

Like I said earlier - I have an All Saints altar dedicated to my veneration of the Saints. I am non-Orthodox Copt and not traditional Catholic and my husband is an Anglican Priest - so Saint work is a pretty big part of my life and magic.

When I was a teenager and just breaking with my Romani family, I found a St Anthony statue on the side of the road, he was my only Saint for over a decade.

Anyone starting new to Saint work, start with one and write a personalized prayer for morning and evening. Add in petitions as needed. Give it time until you can feel the mood of the Saint when you approach the altar. Then add a new Saint. My grandmother used to say "Patience is a virtue the Saints appreciate."

Ntsur2002 · Unread post by **Ntsur2002** » Wed May 12, 2010 8:13 pm

I Would welcome any help on what would be the best spells as far as candle burning to bring someone closer to me ,help with making him think of me.....is there a particular saint that might be more helpful than others that i can ask for help?

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Wed May 12, 2010 8:36 pm

Hello ntsur2002

ntsur2002 wrote:I Would welcome any help on what would be the best spells as far as candle burning to bring someone closer to me ,help with making him think of me

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If you already know the man, and have a relationship but its not as passionate or as hot as you like then I suggest a Fires Of Love candle. If you are not in a relationship then a Love Me or Attraction candle would be best.

ntsur2002 wrote:is there a particular saint that might be more helpful than others that i can ask for help?

I see that you are going after a man, if you yourself are a guy you can petition Saint Sebastian, a true saint of gay love.

On a slightly related note I know someone is going to mention Saint Martha. I know that she is powerful but if you do not have a relationship with the guy then she may not be best for you.

GoldenFlow7 · Unread post by **GoldenFlow7** » Thu May 13, 2010 1:59 pm

HailDiscordia,

Interesting what you wrote, who else would you recommend apart from St Martha? Just curious...

Thx!

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Thu May 13, 2010 7:59 pm

GoldenFlow7 wrote:HailDiscordia,

Interesting what you wrote, who else would you recommend apart from St Martha? Just curious...

Thx!

Off the top of my head, Saint Valentine,for heterosexual love, committed love tho, he was really big on marriage. And as I said, Saint Sebastian for gay love.

AmaSarah · Unread post by **AmaSarah** » Fri May 14, 2010 2:09 am

Hi, I burned a St. Expedite candle but didn't receive my wish in the time the candle burned down. I now have that glass of water next to the burned out candle.

My questions:
1. If I didnt receive my wish within the burn time, do I take this to mean my wish will not be granted? or do I give it time? how much time?

I ask because,
2. what do I do with the glass of water if my wish is not granted? throw it in a crossroad?

thanks...

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Fri May 14, 2010 8:31 am

With St.Expedite it's always a good idea to give him a deadline. If your petition is granted by the deadline, then you know he worked for you - if it didn't, he didn't. He doesn't work by the burn time of a candle.

Yes, you can just throw the water at a crossroads at the finish.

AmaSarah · Unread post by **AmaSarah** » Fri May 14, 2010 9:09 am

Thanks, Devi. but since I didnt give a deadline, do I reburn a new candle but this time stating a definite deadline or do I go back now, to the empty vigil candle and state it now?

thanks...

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Fri May 14, 2010 9:11 am

You might want to get a yes/no divination to find out if he is willing to work on your petition or not. If yes, then give him a deadline. If not, then look for another way to work for your goal.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sat May 15, 2010 9:04 pm

Actually, there is a prayer on the lucky mojo info page that states for St. Expedite to grant your wish before the candle finishes burning. So I would for this one time consider that he did not grant your petition. This is in fact your deadline since that is how you interpreted how he works.

I would give his water back to cross roads, or I would give it back to the earth.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Sun May 16, 2010 7:42 am

Ah - thanks for that stars. I didn't take into consideration that prayer, as I use a different one. Good to know that there's a prayer with that deadline built in.

Unread post by **Miss Phoenix** » Sun May 16, 2010 5:19 pm

great post this is something I was very curious about not long ago, and it is great to see the different opinions
and even better to have all the prayers in one place

Donnalee2 · Unread post by **Donnalee2** » Mon May 17, 2010 2:27 pm

Could not resist adding this tidbit to this thread. Last nite a good friend was visiting she is new to hoodoo & has never called upon Saints or Angels before. She was upset because her computer had quit working 2 days now, since she has a majic jack for her phone she was beside herself. She is retired and cannot afford a cell. So she felt lost with no commucation or internet. I asked her if I could help her by calling on the Saints. She agreed. I looked up in my Saint's directory & found Saint Clara who represents television & Arch-Angel Gabriel Who represent radio. I read the bio on both to her so she could become familar with them. I advised her to go home try her computer & if it was still down to unplug it. I gave her a white taper candle & LM All saints oil & explained how to dress it. I then advised her to light it & Pray to Saint Clara & Gabriel, Ask for & thank them for there help with her situation. I told her when she felt it was done to plug in & turn on the puter.Well @ 9:00 PM she called she was crying, She plugged it in after 15 mins.& it was working fine. She was thanking me and praising the Saints & of course the Lord. She feels she had her little miracle & having no money for repairs she is so grateful. Nancy has called me 3 times today she said I am still shaken to believe I called on Angels & they heard me. I thought you would all enjoy this true encounter with Angel Energy.
donnalee

merrygerry · Unread post by **merrygerry** » Tue May 18, 2010 11:34 am

I'm new to this forum, and I have a follow up question for Hail (from St Martha thread). I see your point about asking saints to help with break up work - who would you ask for help - it seems like any religious figure wouldn't be appropriate - do you prevail upon the universe? Or do you reach out to a deceased relative? What entity would be proper to engage in assistance?
Also, if one is also doing work to get the married target to think of her (or him), would that be something St Martha would assist or would that be equally inappropriate?

Thanks for any advice / insights that you have - totally appreciated!

Unread post by **Flamethrower** » Tue May 18, 2010 2:07 pm

merrygerry wrote: Also, if one is also doing work to get the married target to think of her (or him), would that be something St Martha would assist or would that be equally inappropriate?

Thanks for any advice / insights that you have - totally appreciated!

I don't believe it's the best judgment to use a Catholic saint - St. Martha - to break up a marriage. Yeah.
Since you're new to this forum, I'd recommend that you start with getting a reading to see if breaking up this marriage is worth your time and money.
http://readersandrootworkers.org/index. ... ootworkers

Take the time to read each rootworker's profiles to get a feel for which one may be right for you. Also, the Customer Testimonials area on this forum has feedback on experiences with products and rootworkers.

The best LM product I'd recommend for you is the Break Up Spell Kit. Everything plus instructions are included so you don't have to worry about having the correct supplies.
http://www.luckymojo.com/spell-break-up.html

However, get a reading first.

merrygerry · Unread post by **merrygerry** » Tue May 18, 2010 3:34 pm

Thanks Flamethrower, appreciate your help and ideas.

I have been toying with getting a reading - I'm sort of curious what to expect - like is it a tarot reading by phone? I've read many of the testimonials and am intrigued by the idea, but wasn't sure what a reading included. Would love to hear a description of what to expect.

I get that saints wouldn't be appropriate for break-up work and maybe my question is a hairsplit - what I was wondering if there was a distinction between a breakup spell and something that was more along the lines of "think of me." Maybe your answer means that there is no difference - that trying to get a married man to think of someone isn't any different than break-up work.

As for the break-up spell kit, I did get one a month or so ago and performed it, of course, since then have read a lot more of the pages on the website and in the forum, so know there were pieces I could've done better. I've also had candles lit at the MISC church after reading on the site that the experienced workers at LM might do a better job than a novice would do - I really appreciate the service that LM offers, they are truly great people.

So again, thanks for your help, time and patience.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Tue May 18, 2010 5:12 pm

While I agree that calling upon a saint to break up a marriage is not something that they usually perform, there *are* instances of grey area. There are some Catholic rootworkers who talk about some saints aiding in justified work. Saint Martha will bind up and break up a relationship if the husband is a poor husband, or she'll tame him right quick. St. Peter is also known for forcing wandering wives back.

In conjure if you're case is justified you can even call for the death of someone from God himself. The bible is filled with imprecatory prayers. The key, however, is justified. God will strike with a vengeance if you call out with a righteous heart.

That said, your best course of action is to get a reading and find out what the best course of action is for you. This reader can also spend time coaching you on how to go about acheving your goals and what prayers are best.

Unread post by **Flamethrower** » Tue May 18, 2010 6:16 pm

merrygerry wrote:Thanks Flamethrower, appreciate your help and ideas.

I have been toying with getting a reading - I'm sort of curious what to expect - like is it a tarot reading by phone? I've read many of the testimonials and am intrigued by the idea, but wasn't sure what a reading included. Would love to hear a description of what to expect.

I get that saints wouldn't be appropriate for break-up work and maybe my question is a hairsplit - what I was wondering if there was a distinction between a breakup spell and something that was more along the lines of "think of me." Maybe your answer means that there is no difference - that trying to get a married man to think of someone isn't any different than break-up work.

As for the break-up spell kit, I did get one a month or so ago and performed it, of course, since then have read a lot more of the pages on the website and in the forum, so know there were pieces I could've done better. I've also had candles lit at the MISC church after reading on the site that the experienced workers at LM might do a better job than a novice would do - I really appreciate the service that LM offers, they are truly great people.

So again, thanks for your help, time and patience.

Each reader is different. If you clicked the link I provided for AIRR, I'm sure you read that each reader has different styles of reading, etc. If you're unsure, some readers offer 10 min readings. That service is also listed in their profiles.

This link might help,too.
http://www.luckymojo.com/blackgypsies.html

Ultimately, if you're unsure, just e-mail the rootworker directly.

Good luck!

merrygerry · Unread post by **merrygerry** » Tue May 18, 2010 6:58 pm

I've looked at the AIRR site many, many times over the past several months - thought perhaps it was analagous to a doctor visit - the doctors might have different styles and specialties but would also be commonalities across the experiences - all would have stethescopes, prescription pads, etc - will no doubt get a reading from one of AIRR rootworkers in the not distant future. Also assume that when the candle reports arrive they will be illuminating (no pun intended) the situation.

merrygerry · Unread post by **merrygerry** » Tue May 18, 2010 8:00 pm

Thanks ConjureMan, I always enjoy your posts - you definitely seem to know your way around the topic and always have helpful things to say - and "imprecatory" - not a word you come across every day - love it. Thanks for the good input and clarity on the question.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Wed May 19, 2010 12:22 am

Merrygerry,

I have worked with St. Martha the dominator for various things including break up work among many other things. You can work with her for these types of works. In my own personal case, I worked with St. Martha to get back an ex boyfriend who truly did wrong me, and she definitely heard me on that one. But if you are just trying to break up a marriage because you want this person and want to talk him from his wife...ehhh that debatable. Again i would work with her on your own accord, and see if she is willing to help you. I think you can work with St. Martha to get your target to think about you, or to even be miserable with person while in addition to doing the break up work on your own.

merrygerry · Unread post by **merrygerry** » Wed May 19, 2010 6:11 am

Thanks Stars, I appreciate the options - I particularly wondered about having her help with getting him to think of me - have her photo and card on an altar dedicated to that purpose right now and wasn't sure what to do about it - think I'll leave it and, as you suggest, see if she's willing to help. Have also been burning a green vigil candle for her every Tuesday with a petition and will continue that practice.

The person was my significant other for 18 years, so I hope he thinks of me at least occasionally but was hoping to up the volume considerably and yes, perhaps, amplify any misery he may be experiencing in his current situation. Appreciate your help and ideas - I hadn't thought of separating "break up" from being miserable - will add misery to some other work as you suggest.

If you have any other ideas for how to work with her, would love to hear them.

Just by the by, I'm also in sunny southern calif - and was happy that it rained a little yesterday!

Thanks again.

blovinglife · Unread post by **blovinglife** » Mon May 31, 2010 10:57 pm

Thank you so much, Sacred Heart of Jesus, St. Jude, St. Martha, St. Anthony, and St. Michael. I have been faithfully praying to all of you regarding a job that I have really wanted. I got it. I know all of you have been a powerful presence in my life and help this to materialize. Thank you so much. I will always pay homage to you and keep you in my heart. You've also helped me in restoring my broken relationships. I love all of you.

Peace & Light,
Blovinglife

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:47 am

Im glad that things worked out for you!

DrXTheRebirth · Unread post by **DrXTheRebirth** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:33 pm

Blessed be the saints!

lucky7clover · Unread post by **lucky7clover** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:57 pm

Generally speaking, St Martha is used for controlling and binding a particular man. I wouldn't use her to just attract a new love in general. I have heard from Doreen Virtue that St Catherine is used to find a mate for marriage. Other great saints to use are Virgin of Guadalupe, La Santa Muerte (she is her own system of Magic), Maria Delorosa, La Diosa del Mar (The Lady of the Sea)... the list can go on. If you use St Anne however, she is very flirtatious and probably won't send you a long-lasting relationship (which is what I've heard and also from some experience).

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:17 pm

Saint Martha has been petitioned to keep u on someone's mind.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 5:14 pm

I heard of praying to Arch angel gabrial for love, dont quote me on it just what i heard lol

lucky7clover · Unread post by **lucky7clover** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 5:17 pm

Its probably Uriel has to do with love and emotions... but Grabriel probably wouldn't hurt either...

Unread post by **pisces78** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:06 pm

I use St. Martha for almost everything she is awesome. But what I would like to know is if you are using her for love do you use your own picture or the picture of the person you are working on or a picture of you and the person you are working on?

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:33 am

Its probably Uriel has to do with love and emotions... but Grabriel probably wouldn't hurt either...

Actually, it's Raphael who is prayed to for to bring a partner.

Here are two traditional Catholic prayers for such:

O Raphael, lead us toward those we are waiting for, those who are waiting for us: Raphael, Angel of happy meeting, lead us by the hand toward those we are looking for. May all our movements be guided by your Light and transfigured with your joy. Angel, guide of Tobias, lay the request we now address to you at the feet of Him on whose unveiled Face you are privileged to gaze. Lonely and tired, crushed by the separations and sorrows of life, we feel the need of calling you and of pleading for the protection of your wings, so that we may not be as strangers in the province of joy, all ignorant of the concerns of our country. Remember the weak, you who are strong, you whose home lies beyond the region of thunder, in a land that is always peaceful, always serene and bright with the resplendent glory of God. Amen.

St. Raphael, you were sent by God to guide young Tobiah in choosing a good and virtuous spouse. Please help me in this important choice which will affect my whole future. You not only directed Tobiah in finding a wife, but you also gave him guidelines which should be foremost in every Christian marriage: "Pray together before making important decisions." If through prayer we keep God as the "third Partner" in our marriage, we will have the strength and grace we need to always accept and do His will. Amen.

Pray 1 Our Father, 1 Hail Mary, 1 Glory be...

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:52 pm

pisces78 wrote:I use St. Martha for almost everything she is awesome. But what I would like to know is if you are using her for love do you use your own picture or the picture of the person you are working on or a picture of you and the person you are working on?

Well it depends on your situation. If you are looking for a particular lover, you can either put your picture and their picture facing yours and put it under the candle, OR you can put just the target's picture under the candle. If you are not looking for a particular lover, I would put your picture under the candle, along with attributes, and characteristics that you would like your lover to have.